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| Well... That ended on a much lighter note than I had ever imagined possible. It was really cool to see that they ended it with shinji deciding to love himself after all of that mental turmoil & degradation. However, I'm really disappointed that none of our questions were answered. There was just an information overload dumped on us a few episodes back which still didn't fully explain everything. I feel very dissatisfied that nothing was geniusly wrapped up. I'll definitely watch the movies, I'm going to try not to have my hopes high, but I can't help wanting a better conclusion to the series. I don't quite feel like reading the manga, but maybe I will if the movies don't satisfy my questions. Overall, I really enjoyed this series, especially the philosophical tone. I do think this series was over-hyped though. Higurashi no naku koro ni made more sense than this anime, hahaha |
SmortcholMar 30, 2017 1:18 PM
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Paleshika said: Overall, I really enjoyed this series, especially the philosophical tone. I do think this series was over-hyped though. Calling Evangelion over-hyped whilst giving SAO 9/10.. Irony much? |
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Pixel_Vapour said: Paleshika said: Overall, I really enjoyed this series, especially the philosophical tone. I do think this series was over-hyped though. Calling Evangelion over-hyped whilst giving SAO 9/10.. Irony much? hahahahaha touche, I'm just disappointed things weren't wrapped up nicely. Too many loose ends for me |
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Rei366 said: @Paleshika The movie The End is what you want, it gives the "physical" side of the Instrumentality. Though you won't get any of the "answers" I saw you were seeking. A good deal of them is for you to get yourself by connecting the dots while others are simply omitted entirely (because the post-apocalyptic monsters battles were just a canvas for Shinji's tale, I guess). Example: the thing in the Central Dogma is Lillith and the embryon retrieved by Kaji in Gendô's hand is Adam (those are known infos), what isn't said is that both are "emissaries" of an ancient species who sends those beings to populate planets. In theory, where one type goes, the other doesn't (there is even a safety trigger to avoid it: the lances). But on Earth, both came. Lillith gave birth to what would later lead to humanity while Adam was stucked in sleep or something. Humans awakened Adam and the Angels appear. etc The comic is pretty to look at but it won't explain things, it's just an alternative take on Anno's tale by his character-designer. Nice to read that you had a good time. Thank you for taking the time to explain & share! |
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| i dislike mecha animes...but this one was pretty good... but last 3 episodes were the most boring shit i ever watched... geeeeeez 7/10...maybe even 6/10, screw this ending |
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| Ok so we don't know what happened at all ? ( Ikari's plan ? 3rd impact ? ) The only thing we know is Shinji finally realised he can love himself but hey, it couldn't matter for shit as the world could have been destroyed for whaterver reason we don't know, because we know nothing I think this episode alone is even worse than the whole School Days series |
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| I totally get the premise for the ending, with the last angel defeated, Seele's plans would come to an end. Shinji finally accepted himself and his place in the world, all was good HOWEVER... It all could have been compacted into Episode 25 with 26 being a closing as to what happened to Nerv and the rest of the world. How did the world thrive afterwards? What happened to the rest of the characters, did they all die(hinted in ep25). WTF happened to the Instrumentality Project? Budget issues clearly were evident this is rather ironic considering it was the last episode. So many cut-scenes were recycled and muxed with different voicelines which is pathetic and disappointing. This isn't a real ending, will watch The End of Evangelion now.... |
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| hhh just seeing Gendo and Yui together again made my day it's okay to be me well, I've got to learn to do this too |
| Eps 25 and 26 have really grown on me. The more thought I put into it, the more I appreciate the tv ending for what it is. |
Paleshika said: Well... That ended on a much lighter note than I had ever imagined possible. It was really cool to see that they ended it with shinji deciding to love himself after all of that mental turmoil & degradation. However, I'm really disappointed that none of our questions were answered. There was just an information overload dumped on us a few episodes back which still didn't fully explain everything. I feel very dissatisfied that nothing was geniusly wrapped up. I'll definitely watch the movies, I'm going to try not to have my hopes high, but I can't help wanting a better conclusion to the series. I don't quite feel like reading the manga, but maybe I will if the movies don't satisfy my questions. Overall, I really enjoyed this series, especially the philosophical tone. I do think this series was over-hyped though. Higurashi no naku koro ni made more sense than this anime, hahaha The answers you are seeking (which I also searched for because of the confusion left by the anime) are here: I consider this show over-hyped too. Especially since we get no background story. |
hardrock13 said: Paleshika said: Well... That ended on a much lighter note than I had ever imagined possible. It was really cool to see that they ended it with shinji deciding to love himself after all of that mental turmoil & degradation. However, I'm really disappointed that none of our questions were answered. There was just an information overload dumped on us a few episodes back which still didn't fully explain everything. I feel very dissatisfied that nothing was geniusly wrapped up. I'll definitely watch the movies, I'm going to try not to have my hopes high, but I can't help wanting a better conclusion to the series. I don't quite feel like reading the manga, but maybe I will if the movies don't satisfy my questions. Overall, I really enjoyed this series, especially the philosophical tone. I do think this series was over-hyped though. Higurashi no naku koro ni made more sense than this anime, hahaha The answers you are seeking (which I also searched for because of the confusion left by the anime) are here: I consider this show over-hyped too. Especially since we get no background story. THANK YOU! That helped a lot! Definitely makes more sense now! |
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| Roses are red, I didn't have a lot of fun, Congratulations NGE, You're the first anime I've rated a one! @Rei366: Yeah at this point I just want to watch it so I can say that I've seen it. No point in stopping now that I've come so far. EDIT: You know what? I'll just keep it at 4/10. After all, the first half and the art are really great. |
Nishi_23Jul 30, 2017 12:50 PM
| To my own surprise I found myself liking this final more than expected, sure it wasn't that what I had in mind when I picked up this, but at a certain point it was clear what the show is actually about and what direction it would take, so I tried to perceive Eva from the angle which would allow me to enjoy it the most and yeah,I guess I succeeded, even got a bit emotional during that gratulation scene. Great opening, nice animation at times, some decent action and really remarkable exploration of the characters minds. There may be some unanswered questions, but I guess the movie will answer those. 8/10 |
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| First half of the show was boring, second half was great and the ending was brilliant. i think any other ending would have ruined this show, i just loved seeing that mental breakdown and not knowing what's gonna happen next. the whole show was like watching Shinji go thru therapy and finally after all these years understanding his true worth and these last 2 episodes really put everything he was going thru into perspective. a lot of people could relate to this. Glad i didn't drop this show. Now off to watch the movie. 7/10 would've been higher if the first half of the series was better, it was really a chore to go thru the first 13 episodes. the second half made up for it tho. also forgot to mention the Opening is easily one of the greatest Openings that i've ever heard, i'm gonna miss it. |
Mr_ShnbSep 22, 2017 9:02 AM
| What a disappointment, the beginning was so promising yet they ruined it toward the end by bringing up all of those negative thoughts, I hope the movie will be better. 8/10 |
| 1/10 end, and im being generous |
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| That moment when you suddenly are able to connect Shinji's piloting of the EVA and lack of self-worth to your own mental illness and you feel like you're being mindraped by fucking Crayola marker drawings. I'm mildly disappointed the show didn't go full meta in the end and make it so Shinji was just having a weird dream, actually living in a school romance anime. "You stupid pervert, I didn't mean to get THAT up!" 8/10 Rei366 said: @CatSoul the show makes it so Shinji was just having a weird dream, actually living in a school romance anime. "You stupid pervert, I didn't mean to get THAT up!" What do you mean? This was just a moment in the episode where Shinji sees things "how they could have been". Never do they say that it is his actual reality. o_O I know that. I'm saying it would've been really cool/twisty if that were his actual reality. |
CatSoulJan 29, 2018 9:28 AM
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
| Congratulations! Me! Finally managed to finish NGE after so many years of putting it aside. |
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| I have a mixed feeling about the ending... The good... This ending is unique, it does not attempt to reveal and explain the whole mysteries about the occurrences and the real truths about the second impact, EVAs, angels and so on. The ending attempted to show how the mental state of Shinji gradually changes and how he accepted to live in this new word as a part of the instrumentality. The way they use drawings to convey the fact that Shinji and what he sees is a shape is smart (Cuz they don't have to spend that much time animating!) The bad... I can't help but feel pissed off at the show for not COMPLETELY and CLEARLY explaining the angels, EVAs, the second impacts and so on. I want to know more about what the fuck is actually going on! It's easy to get the basic ideas/concept of what's going on. It's possible to clearly understand what's going on. However, it's not possible to FULLY understand everything that is going on without theorizing about what's going on, etc... Heck, I don't even know what the hell actually happened to the characters when the human instrumentality started or what the instrumentality really is. Concusion... No wonder why there are other alternatives (better) ending. Out of all 26 episodes, episode 25 and 26 has the lowest animation quality but got some of the deepest meanings and darkest story. But hey! Since Shinji is living in this instrumentality. He can just make himself into an ordinary cheerful life he always desires! This show has shown me how an action mech anime can be smoothly steer towards solely the developments of the charcters until a point that action-stuff is not important anymore. Nice one! |
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| Well, rewatched this series after 2 years, and some more anime watched in between, it was like starting from scratch, except that i knew what I can expect from the ending. First time, I wasn't satisfied at all with the outcome and felt cheated like i saw some people here also. On second watch, I realize what a masterpiece this show is. Cried at the ending, it was so beautiful. Of course, I am going to watch EoE for some further revelations (I hope), but these 26 episodes have been amazing, I am going to rewatch it many times, I am sure. 10/10 |
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| Probably i'm one of the few freaks that loves the ending of Neon Genesis Evangelion. To bo honest, when i saw it for the first time (i mean the last two infamous episodes) i thought that this ending had absolutely no sense and it was just plain and kinda off mash-up of the scenes from the entire anime. Buuuuut... when i rewatched the last few episodes again... ohhh boi - that was so awesome and so, so, so deep. Last scenes with seeing the Shinji nightmares and also the famous "Congratulations" segment with that piano-acoustic version of Zankoku na tenshi no Teeze in the background were one of the best anime-scenes i have ever saw. And also this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPyQ6dHsG3I&t=1s It's probably the most mind-blowing, and infantile thing of the entire franchise. Seeing Rei that... you know... smiles?? Whaaaat? I love it |
adam11i13Apr 3, 2018 5:32 AM
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adam11i13 said: Probably i'm one of the few freaks that loves the ending of Neon Genesis Evangelion. To bo honest, when i saw it for the first time (i mean the last two infamous episodes) i thought that this ending had absolutely no sense and it was just plain and kinda off mash-up of the scenes from the entire anime. Buuuuut... when i rewatched the last few episodes again... ohhh boi - that was so awesome and so, so, so deep. Last scenes with seeing the Shinji nightmares and also the famous "Congratulations" segment with that piano-acoustic version of Zankoku na tenshi no Teeze in the background were one of the best anime-scenes i have ever saw. And also this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPyQ6dHsG3I&t=1s It's probably the most mind-blowing, and infantile thing of the entire franchise. Seeing Rei that... you know... smiles?? Whaaaat? I love it Saaame. I had the exact same experience, after first watch, I felt cheated, like wth, what happened to everything I was watching so far, nothing is here, only some random psychobabble remained. But after 2 years, when i rewatched it, I was blown away by the series, and the ending seemed perfect for me, everything was going in the direction of Shinji fighting with his demons, and accepting himself for who he is. You can really feel the inner battles of Hideaki Anno seeping from those 2 last episodes, the black thoughts he had, how he struggled to find purpose. newazurill said: Shinji is the first anime character that I was able to relate to on this level. I absolutely loved this anime and especially the ending. While there are some unexplained or vague plot points but that's not what mattered to me in the show. 10/10 I agree, I never created such a personal bond with any character in any anime (not just anime, in any show, really) so far, not even close, and with Shinji, I think there is something that every one of us can relate to. In my opinion, this show is really underappreciated, it should be definitely in the top 5 at least, although, of course, I understand that a lot of people simply weren't prepared for a journey of this kind when they started it. |
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| UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Nice Need to watch End of Eva now, but this ending wasn't bad. It has its own value. |
| why does the end of this remind me of the end of dual parallel trouble adventures @Rei366 Yea I can definitely see that, I saw dual parallel first, kinda makes me wish I saw this first so I could like it more. |
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| For some reason, after watching all of this, I feel totally satisfied and at peace, it was the weirdest ending I've seen to date but instead of feeling betrayed, like I thought I would, I feel calm and happy. |
| Here I come, rougher than the rest of them The best of them, tougher than leather You can call me knuckles, unlike sonic I don't chuckle I'd rather flex my muscles I'm hard as nails, it ain't hard to tell I break'em down whether they're solid or frail Unlike the rest I'm independent It's my first breath, first test Feel the right then the worst's left |
| What the hell kind of ending was that??? It's not that is was bad don't get me wrong, I liked learning the thought process of the characters and I felt I could connect in some ways but still at least have another episode showing the aftermath at leas |
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| Well, I'm speechless. Neon Genesis Evangelion is the best anime that I saw in my entire life. Every character feel human. Masterpiece. 5/5 for the episode. 10/10 for the anime. |
ToumaTachibanaOct 22, 2018 1:29 PM
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| if you want to sleep,this episode and the 25 are the best for you |
| all i have to say is...thank god theres End of Envangelion EDIT after movie: welp........ok |
dannymilkAug 21, 2018 9:02 PM
Boobsftw said: if you want to sleep,this episode and the 25 are the best for you I disagree, because there's a lot of dialogue to follow. |
ChemicalBro said: Boobsftw said: if you want to sleep,this episode and the 25 are the best for you I disagree, because there's a lot of dialogue to follow. But the dialogues are too boring to follow imo ,there are some deep meanings behind those dialogue though |
Boobsftw said: But the dialogues are too boring to follow imo ,there are some deep meanings behind those dialogue though Yeah, your view on the end depends entirely on the fact if you like this kind of dialogue. I also like the idea that the EoE-movie is another perspective of the ending: 25 and 26 are what's going on in the mind of Shinji and and EoE is what happens in the real world. For instance |
| This show was so ambitious that it's hard to summarize how I feel about the ending. Episode 25 left me worried about the finale. After watching it, I'm at least partly satisfied. I liked the sci-fi + religion premise that the show put forward, but all of that gets thrown out the window for 25-26, abandoning the importance of Kaworu, the Angels, the EVAs, and the previous build up of everything in the show...except the characters, namely Shinji in the finale. From my point of view, NGE is best viewed as a character study first and foremost, with the sci-fi, mecha, and action elements taking a total backseat in importance (unfortunately). This show is really Shinji's journey, and all the crazy storylines are merely a backdrop to his struggle. The Human Instrumentality Project wasn't explained, as I had feared, but again that's not as important as what Shinji got out of the "treatment." The last scene remains ambiguous as to what is reality or just symbolic at that point, but regardless, it gave a solid conclusion to the personal battles Shinji faced. At the same time, I feel dissatisfied because I was REALLY interested in the premise and plot that built up for most of the series, but the rug was pulled out from under me. I've read that EoE provides more of a plot conclusion, but I haven't seen it yet and thus my critique is of the show. If they didn't want (some members of) the audience to feel like the ending was a bait-and-switch with a completely unresolved plot, they shouldn't have made the plot so interesting and mysterious in the first place. |
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| Not complete. It was a good ending to the TV series but not a good ending to the story? I wonder if "Seinfeld isn't funny" has a whole NGE equivalent Edit. Eh. Time to watch the movie |
| Wow, these last few episodes are really great. |
impossablank said: You, sir, have great taste.Wow, these last few episodes are really great. Congratulations! |
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| When I first saw the two last chapters I felt disappointed but when I made myself to understand what the fuck was going on, I rewatched them to get a better idea. I like 25 but I LOVE 26. It's the best conclusion for Shinji's character. His crippling depression is so raw, so realistic, there you get an inception chapter only to talk about himself and about his character. This series is not about mechas, not about angels to kill. Its about people, how they feel and how they relationate between themselves and there's nothing better than episode 26. But I still prefer End of Evangelion for a final. |
| Not a bad finale. Overall, 7/10 for the anime. |
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| So, I just finished my rewatch over the span of five days, including End of Evangelion. This was one of the first anime I watched, after FMA:B, Cowboy Bebop and Madoka Magica (all favorites of mine and classics in their own right). This was shortly before my registration here on MAL. Only now did I rewatch it... and I have to say, I love this finale A LOT more on my rewatch. Actually, I despised it, hated it on my first watch. It was confusing, left out pretty much 95% of explanations and only focused on Shinji's mental state - which even back then I knew was the main core of Evangelion, but I just thought the whole story of Angels, EVAs etc. was so interesting, and I felt betrayed that I didn't get to see the end of it. End of Evangelion is whole another mindfuck entirely, but this is also not the place to talk about it here... but it helped a lot in appreciating the series more. In my mind, for these few years, the movie was the "true" ending, replacing episodes 25 and 26. Though I still needed some explanatory video or article on the internet to truly understand the whole Adam/Lilith stuff. I never minded the "bad" animation. Now on my rewatch, I finally saw the value of these two episodes. The End of Evangelion movie simply doesn't devote enough time to the solution of Shinji's arc - it doesn't need to, because these two episodes do so perfectly. I think both the series finale and the movie are needed to get the true picture, and I ended up loving this finale almost just as much. It's truly beautiful in its own right. Not visually, not in terms of soundtrack, but in the message it delivers. Shinji is the one, definitive character that I can identify with. Hideaki Anno is a genius, and I will unashamedly admit it here and now: Evangelion is a masterpiece, and all the critics can suck it! I have increased my rating of the series from 8/10 to 9/10 and my End of Evangelion rating from 9/10 to 10/10. This might not sound like much, but my rating scale is VERY harsh (I think my mean score is below 4,5 now?), so the previous scores were already pretty damn high. But this is a work of art that jsut gets infinitely better after you rewatch it, once you fully digested it and absorbed its messages. Its true beauty only becomes apparent once you know what's going on. The first time will (and should) always be a bad acid trip. I think I once read something poetic like "a brilliant story must shatter you, like an axe" or some shit like that. I probably butchered it. But it was true. This just went from "pretty good, if also pretty flawed" to "story of my life". But I'll stop gushing now. I forced my mom to watch it with me on my rewatch, she likes to watch some good anime as well. She absolutely hated the finale, but really enjoyed what came before. Her favorite character is Misato, and her second favorite Asuka. Which surprises me, I kind of expected her to hate Asuka. My favorite will always be Shinji. He doesn't even make it to her third place, her third favorite is Rei. But then again, I love 'em all! I guess if my mom had to rate it, she'd probably give it a 6/10. I hope that as time passes, she can appreciate it more. |
| What an ending though. Congratulations! |
| This entire series is nothing but a cheap reflection of the creator's own mental instability, mixed with a need for affirmation and one part manic grandiosity. I am literally worse off for witnessing this travesty, and I personally hope that anyone who actually identifies with this nonsense gets clinical help. |
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| I feel like I've been bamboozled, guys. Part of me wants to find a hidden meaning but another part was like "is this a troll ending?" Was everything even real...could this be a metaphor? Some form of grand message, don't run away from your problems, being gay is okay, friends are good...socialize... omedetou Shini-kun hahahhaha |
| @Rueby I don't think the meaning was hidden when it was so overt in many "inner dialogues" phases, and particularly in this final episode. Also, a metaphor? Maybe. But I simply saw an entertaining scifi environment where "real" problems were exposed very "matter of fact". "Omedetô" to you. ;) @Viltas Many informations are infered (pictures, dialogues, whatever). But yes, youncan still consider some things missing. June 25, 2019 @KamikazeKeeg One could argue that this was what the story was about, from ep1. July 17, 2019 @Matthew-Vargas "I'm not clear on how that happened." It results from the Human Instrumentality Project (handled by Gendô and the SEELE) as stated in the first minutes of the ep25; thanks to the gathering of Adam, Lillith, (Longinus lance, not sure anymore), Angel matter, Unit-1 and Rei (those various ingredients being refered as required throughout the series up to ep25). More on that (in a flashy way) in the theatrical finale. August2, 2019 @Mattinator95 They were'nt and yet they were. They reflect as much as "The End of Evangelion" the envisioned ending. The creator constantly came up with changes from week to week, and the makers are satisfied with the TV series itself. It's more of a consumers thing. Have a good time with the movie ! About the gas attack, it wasn't just "a gas attack", the Aum Shirinkyô incident is still infamous to this day. ^^" August 26th, 2019 Martin_Taylor said: why I feel like I saw that "happy" part already somewhere? The Congratulations part is available as parody in numerous series. Examples on TV: Gintama (whatever series it is, I don't remember), the comedy live-action show inspired by Dragon Quest, and some others I can't get the name again. As for the "another possibility" vision, I remember seeing it mimicked in a few manga and TV shows but the only one that comes to mind is the Shingeki no Kyôjin SD animated series (first episode). August 29, 2019 "I'm baffled when I see some people criticize the shows ending for being psychobabble, and then seeing the same poster rave about another (more current) show where the characters are also just talking non-stop. What's the deal here?" @Farabeuf The deal is: the dialog is embellished by the "pretty colours" (=recent digital paint), "goodlooking" characters (=post-2009 generic designs) and "beautiful animation"(=combination of those things). Proof: they will often admit that the fully digital Shin Eva and their thinner characters look better. Also, most people criticizing Eva's TV conclusion are still logical in their appreciation of the recent movies: they drool on the second and despise the third. December 8, 2019 @Gytanzo Do you mind if I ask for the longer version ? It's actually more interesting to read (and to write, since it forces to put impressions&ideas into words). I don't understand what was the "bad writing" (or incoherent*)? Do you refer to the fact the details were often thought on the onset of an épisode making and that the overall plan wasn't stabilized before the middle point? Any example? (i'm genuinely interested and am not trying to make fun of you) PS: the theatrical End isn't a sequel (that's why it's called ep 25" and 26") |
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