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Keten said: While it's true that the characters backstories are really nothing all that amazing, the show kind of makes fun of the fact that they are so cliche. Kaisar talks about how he used to be this noble knight who stood for justice and Rita pretty much ignores him and isn't the least bit interested. Plus... I think that any backdrop is better than no backdrop, though I will agree that they are a bit too simple, at least most characters have some though but I'd like a bit more for the demons too and maybe the king. It's not that. It's a bit hard to explain, but to me it feels that they lean on western popular culture in characterization. I mean, in Japanese pop-culture they like to make characters oh-so-very-complex, oh-so-very-attractive. Like, everyone should be suited for shipping at all times. Kaisar and Favaro just don't have this quality in my opinion. The level of ridiculous (and non entirely complimentary ridiculous) is too high. Keten said: I do agree with you that the Crab episode is the best one. I was mostly just saying maybe "downhill" wasn't fair to the series just because the 1 episode was the best one. Yep, the first one was perfect. I didn't like the episode where they fought Azazel and the way some corners vere cut in several cases (they didn't show how they got in the flying fortress, for example), but Bahamut is very enjoyable overall. Keten said: I still think it's the best looking show this season truth be told, so much effort was put into the designs, the backgrounds, the animation and even the visual effects. Seriously, whoever made this, give that team a medal. Even the music is fantastic and top tier. I like the style, though it isn't particularly coherent. Can't say that there are many scenes, which I would remember for their visual side, but more realistic designs are nice to see. Btw, I think, the only case I was really amazed by the scenery was at the beginning of the Ysmanport episode. Heh, to think that many people refused to watch it after the PVs because of unconventional lips design. Garo has an interesting style in this season too, but it's much more subdued. Mappa sure are strong this autumn. Keten said: Also, you found plot holes? Then again, the series is so fast and things go by so quickly it does a good job at hiding them, though I would be interested in hearing them. Of course, the show doesn't take itself too seriously either, so it doesn't hurt the show as much as it would a more serious show. Nah, nothing specific - it's not the best show for plot analysis, it's just that things do not always make sense or you simply don't have enough time to even start figuring them out, so the narrative feels a bit incomplete at times. It's fine, but it one more thing to ignore and find compensation for. |
deadoptimist said: It's not that. It's a bit hard to explain, but to me it feels that they lean on western popular culture in characterization. I mean, in Japanese pop-culture they like to make characters oh-so-very-complex, oh-so-very-attractive. Like, everyone should be suited for shipping at all times. Kaisar and Favaro just don't have this quality in my opinion. The level of ridiculous (and non entirely complimentary ridiculous) is too high. To be honest, I kind of like that they aren't doing it in such a way that panders to a certain crowd. It also gives it it's own identity despite it's story being pretty basic high fantasy, makes it more memorable. lol deadoptimist said: I like the style, though it isn't particularly coherent. Can't say that there are many scenes, which I would remember for their visual side, but more realistic designs are nice to see. Btw, I think, the only case I was really amazed by the scenery was at the beginning of the Ysmanport episode. Heh, to think that many people refused to watch it after the PVs because of unconventional lips design. Garo has an interesting style in this season too, but it's much more subdued. Mappa sure are strong this autumn. I actually remember quite a few scenes. The scene after Favaro and Kaisar beat the brute demon for one, when Favaro had the light behind him and he pointed his crossbow at him. Also, the first shot of the giant crab was great, I think that was the moment where I first went, "Okay, the series just jumped the shark and I don't care because this is hilariously awesome." lol There are quite a few more too. I can't really say I have seen a series before that looks like it, closest I can think of is Cowboy Bebop but even then, it's still very different. Also, when I first saw the lips, I was a bit unsure too but I think that's because I have gotten so accustomed to how anime is usually drawn. You are right that it looks very westernized. Heck, even the women who are the most anime looking in the show don't really look all that standard anime. I guess the only thing I'd like more is maybe more badass demon designs like those gigantic titan looking things that shoot lasers out of their mouths. Those were awesome. Also ya, I like that Mappa seems to be experimenting a bit with art styles. Garo is another example of a show I can't really compare to another in terms of art. deadoptimist said: Nah, nothing specific - it's not the best show for plot analysis, it's just that things do not always make sense or you simply don't have enough time to even start figuring them out, so the narrative feels a bit incomplete at times. It's fine, but it one more thing to ignore and find compensation for. Well... I was gonna say that because of the whole, "Things just sort of... happen..." thing, I sort of threw plausibility out the window already so plot holes really wouldn't do all that much harm to the show as long as they aren't all over the place and obnoxious. It's mostly a dumb fun show that is pumped full of charm and is very well made so... ya, not exactly the type of show that you could analyze, even if it's got some clever writing here and there. |
deadoptimist said: Duh, why do only girls get a change of outfit when they turn?! I was thinking the same thing, BUT... maybe his outfit will change in the next episode? I at least hope so. It'd be cool to see Favaro with a new demon outfit plus maybe even a slight change to his hairstyle? Lol. (Not that it's a bad hairstyle in the first place.) |
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| REALLY intense episode, to say the least. Jeanne turning into a demon was something I didn't expect. Though I did have a feeling that Amira's mom wasn't what she thought to be. As for Favaro turning into demon, we'll just have to wait and see what happens. |
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| lol favaro got tongue kissed lol |
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deadoptimist said: Keten said: While it's true that the characters backstories are really nothing all that amazing, the show kind of makes fun of the fact that they are so cliche. Kaisar talks about how he used to be this noble knight who stood for justice and Rita pretty much ignores him and isn't the least bit interested. Plus... I think that any backdrop is better than no backdrop, though I will agree that they are a bit too simple, at least most characters have some though but I'd like a bit more for the demons too and maybe the king. It's not that. It's a bit hard to explain, but to me it feels that they lean on western popular culture in characterization. I mean, in Japanese pop-culture they like to make characters oh-so-very-complex, oh-so-very-attractive. Like, everyone should be suited for shipping at all times. Kaisar and Favaro just don't have this quality in my opinion. The level of ridiculous (and non entirely complimentary ridiculous) is too high. Well the same goes for Amira: you have this character, who does have her peculiarities, but is still perfectly shippable , only to have revealed that those "peculiarities" are actually due to her being in kindergarten. Hmmm,.. never occurred to me before, but does this show support child alcoholism? Seriously though, I understand where you're coming from. However, this show is a satire, something I feel that people in general are not always aware of. I think they are still very much Japanese characters, using non-complimentary ridiculousness to mock amongst other things fellow Japanese as well as Western characters. Just look at Jeanne: they followed the historical story almost to the letter, even up to the point where she's at the stake, showing signs of abuse/torture, and a priest is approaching. Then suddenly, instead of having her ask the priest to fetch her a cross, as she did in real life, the priest is forgotten from the scene, a mob storms the pile and Jeanne turns into a demon. It is not a case of having a character based on a historical one, it's mirroring the historical one, then yelling "suprise mofo!". |
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| Holy shit??? Jeanne is a demon now, apparently, and Amira's mom and what???? Favaro is now a demon??? Exciting A+. |
| omg that was an epic episode demon Jeanne /5 |
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| absolutely amazing. 10/10 just for anime tim curry. www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKoWVhHL4Ro |
NintensityCrowds said: absolutely amazing. 10/10 just for anime tim curry. www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKoWVhHL4Ro I am so happy that I am not the only one who sees the resemblance. |
| Damn that sensei did to favaro what orochimaru's been plotting for Sasuke since season 2. #ToMuchTongue |
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| lol the heroes are turning to demons now first was Jeanne now its Favaro Amira have been betrayed welp |
| I'm loving the hell out of each second of this show. Favaro, the holy knight allegedly, turning into a demon is gonna be entertaining as hell and also completely unpredictable. But I'm still standing by the theory that one of the two will house Satan (previously I thought it was gonna be Kaisar, but now Favaro seems more likely), the other will manifest Zeus (Kaisar now I guess?), and together they will seal the newly revived Bahamut again. |
| ったく、嫌な世の中だよ。 |
Lichtspiel said: Poor Amira has been deceived, but why does Lavalley then rememeber Amira and her mother? That was my first thought too. What about the baby? So now am thinking. What if the baby is Jean and Lavalley never knew it? |
| Awesome episode, gotta say i really underestimated this anime. The demons are all very cool, and the voice actor for Martinet is superb. Jeanne finally broke and is now a demon. She should've just killed that idiot of king. Whether as a human or a demon, she's still the prettiest character of the show, which is kinda amusing. Azazel got run over, hahaha. Rita really couldn't care less if you're a demon lord, she'll still interrogate your ass. She also seems to have eluded Martinet somehow. Gotta love the zombie girl. Poor Amira... i can't believe that basically a 5-year old experienced what she did. Guess it's time for Bahamut to arise, though i wonder if Favaro'll actually kill her. His trick was clever, but the demons aren't idiots. Won't Lucifer do something, by the way? Don't tell me he's still sitting on his throne, reading books and being fabulous, giving no damns about Beelzebub's schemes. 5/5 ~My deeeeeest-~ |
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| Very nice episode, narratively gave excellent twists, I did not believe that Jeanne had a chance. But the question arises, why do become a demon? I'm curious to find out. Soundtrack very good, even though the designs with small declines in quality have proven themselves. Animations and colors of the scenes really beautiful. Rita is an interesting character. |
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| i need the full ED sing by Kaisar |
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| shit is going down |
| God, it's finally picking up again, odds have it this show's ending may be satisfying after all. |
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| Just how unexpected can this get? It's so much fun to watch and guess what will happen!! |
| I dont really get it.. why does Belzebuth free bahamut? Its been said that bahamut is the enemy of both angels AND the demons (he wants to destroy the ENTIRE world).. thats basically the reason why the old demonlord had to sacrifiece himself to get him chained (so you cant say demons just love destruction).Does Belzebuth think he can join/controll Bahamut?(which wouldnt make ANY sense since not even the big demon lord took that as an option) The anime sadly is way too open.. it doesnt really tell you much. It limites the story to certain connections but the basic of the systems stays kinda open+ the limites of the magic everyone is using. So the probably asspull their way out of this dilemma. Also why is Belzebuth not killing those 2 main characters instandly? I mean what use does those 2 mere humans give him?? It seems to me that this ONLY occur because those are the 2 main character.. and they cant die (at least not until the very end).. very poor storytelling. |
| I wonder if we'll actually get a Rage of Bahamut game sequel that follows this in the future. Meaning that if there's no happy ever after, it was a foregone conclusion. |
| It's getting more & more rushed. Too much info presented in one episode. Well, better get ready for a rushed ending(or maybe we will get a 2nd cour?). |
| I like anime. |
| The king is idiot. -.- Jeanne and Favaro are demon now. That episode is intense, with a lots of twists. |
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| What a tragic scene with the hug and disintegrating mother. |
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| Damn such a melodramatic episode :'( quite a good episode though, let's see what will happen next! |
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| And she has both seals now, time to awake Bahamut. Great episode. I wonder if they manages to save Jean from her curse. And I wonder what Favaro will do now in his new form. Nina is the only one who can save their asses now. |
| Oh please, Jeanne should've realized those were just the Demon's illusion's (the ones with the Michael and the other angel) but guess they couldn't come up with another way to get her out of that situation besides turning her into a demon. Speaking of people getting turned into demons, looking forward to see how demon Favaro behaves lol. |
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| RROOOOOFL. soooo first. I love how Favaro's "full" demon form is just a slap of masacra. AND LMAAAAOOOO @ the end where someone randomly sings "my deeeeessstiny" hahaha classic. |
| I like how during the first half of the episode we were all probably focused on family drama but the "kiss scene" is what stuck with everyone (judging by a lot of the comments here anyway!). Zadion said: You get to be a demon! And you get to be a demon! And you get to be a demon! Everybody gets to be a demon!  This is gold. Haha. |
| Can't believe I actually had some type of faith in Rita saving Jeanne. lol If Jeanne becoming a witch means her scars are gone...fine by me. When you realize that YOU ARE THE OKAASAN. DAT TONGUE! Favaro is now a demon. Ain't no way this is finishing in 2 episodes. |
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| Well a lot of shit went down this episode huh, doubt much will change with Favaro being a demon honestly. Maybe he even fakes being on their side. |
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| Damn, Jeanne went to the dark side after all. I suppose her spirit was crushed when learning the gods don't care about her. Poor Amira, she has such a hard life and only seems to suffer. So much for Favaro's plan. |
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| Idk if Jeanne was deceived by that demon or the gods are just really assholes, but goddamn good bye good Jeanne. Hello, hot damn demon Jeanne. She's so gorgeous ohmygod. This is that fucking King's fault. Poor Amira. Everything she knew was a lie. I'm not okay. And now Favaro is a demon, too. What the fuck. I hope Azaziel will be their ally. Aaaaaaah! |
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Zadion said:  srs though, tell me that isn't the hottest anime kiss of the year. ....it's not :P although i don't understand why they call it a "kiss"...doesn't kissing have to do with the lips? ----- "MY DEEEEEEES-" LMAOOOO found this thread just to comment that LOL |
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| Whelp, Favaro got what he wished for, have fun being a demon! :D Great episode btw. |
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| Omg anyone heard the old guy with the duck singing the ed song man that was the most hilarious thing in this show although it was only two words lmao. Jeane and Fava are demons now wow what a twist, and Belzebub is betraying Lucifer. |
| Seeing Azazel being overrun like a dead bird was pretty funny I really hope Favaros gets a better look after becoming a demon, so he becomes a bishounen like all the other demons |
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| Odd even after they tell her about what is real she still believes in her made up memories, I guess they also took away her thinking process lolz. Damn whatever it takes to survive the only way to do things, I can't blame Favaro for doing that. |
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| Ayy favaro is joining the demons, nice!! |
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| Damn, demon Jeanne is hot. Favoro gets to be a demon too, although I'm guessing his contract with Amira will play some part. Everything is heating up. |
| Damn that Martinet and Beezlebub doing all that horrible shit to Amira. She got a shock this ep; the long-awaited reunion, to only find out she is merely an imitation vessel to the angel. That shit must suck. On the flip side, I lol'd at Azazel getting run over by Bacchus vehicle. Very amusing. |
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