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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- I'm so glad Utena has Anthy back. |
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| What can I say? A highly memorable episode. I see this as the transition into their very close friendship while solidifying Utena's feelings to protect Anthy at all costs and to win duels at any cost. |
| The best part was hearing Anthy's thoughts! But, fantastic episode! |
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| Im guessing there was some sort of parallel between Anthy x Utena and Utena x Wakaba in the whole water scene, Utena becoming Anthy and Wakaba becoming Utena |
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| Somebody other than Anthy got bitch-slapped?! |
| 頭脳は子供、見た目は大人！ ƪ(˘⌣˘)ʃ |
| Wow! Touga must feel humiliated, losing to a broken stub of a blade like that. I'm very glad he finally got beaten. |
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| Well done episode, the most interesting thing, as a previous poster stated, was hearing Anthy's thoughts in parts of the episodes and, most importantly, the fact that Utena's "prince" may have been in the very same situation she is in right now. Interesting. I'm also pleasantly surprised by the lack of angst in this episode. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| feels good to see Touga lost, he treated Anthy worse than Saonji did is this the 2nd time Anthy leaned towards helping Utena in a duel? |
| Oh man, that jazz tune leading up to the duel between Utena and Touga was amazing! |
| I'm always happy when the smug bishounen know it all get's beaten by our hero. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| very interesting stuff. Utena was trying to get back what made her, herself, but what was that exactly. Was it simply Anthy or was it something else. Once she lost Anthy, she became what she thought she should become "normal", but being normal means that Utena is not being true to herself. So, the question begs, why does she want to become a prince? Man I love stuff like this in anime and hope there's more down the road. |
| So, what makes Utena herself, is her ambition to become a prince and Anthy plays a key role in that. Also, about the prince thing though I knew about that whole story, but I was wondering if there was anything else, if she had any other motive besides the whole back story that made her want to become one. maybe I'm just trying to dig too deep, idk I'm sure I'll find out soon enough. haha yeah Utena I think looks good in just about everything. |
| Wakaba is so awesome!!!! her friendship with Utena is so legit, i love the scene when Utena slaps her, and she slaps her back, thats what a real friend would do... and finally we got to see more of anthy's thoughts... |
| Amazing episode. Anthy is hard to understand, she's a very intriguing character but I'm glad she is back with Utena. |
| I think this is the first time that Anthy's "true" thoughts are shown. Before we'd never know what Anthy was thinking exactly. |
Pheefa said: Somebody other than Anthy got bitch-slapped?! That's what I thought too lol |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
| This anime certainly loves its slapping, doesn't it? Anyway, a somewhat predictable episode but great nonetheless. Seeing Utena get back to being her "normal" self was nice as was hearing Anthy's thoughts for the first time. So, now that Utena has beaten all challengers... is it time to start unraveling some of the mysteries? |
| Anthy's thoughts were so scathing... I hope future episodes don't diminish my opinion of her. :( In any case, I'm happy to see her back with Utena. And Wakaba is such a great friend. |
| Epic slaps for everyone in this series, it seems. Solid episode, but I see it being hard to maintain this kind of pacing. |
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| Oh gosh, Utena loses a lot of her charm when she's... well, not herself. I love Utena so much because she's not afraid to dress and show her strength. It was so depressing seeing her so sad :( |
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| I'm waiting for all the mysterious stuff to get some explanation. Like who Utena's prince is, what is the deal with the 'letters from the end of the world', the flying upside down castle, and what exactly is the 'power to revolutionize the world'. |
| ....Wow Utena's "I'm getting laid tonight" face at the end of the episode. |
| Ich verstehe nicht |
| Yay for Utena getting Anthy back! That OP sword though, lol. Now that people mention the show having sexual innuendos I cannot unsee. |
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| that sword should have an instruction manual also, we finally get to hear Anthy's actual thoughts. she's becoming more and more interesting. I don't understand why some people are disliking her because of it, I personally think it gives her a complex character |
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| Well I wasn't expecting Utena to get anthy back so fast Beginning of the ep made me sad BUT SHE AWOKE WITH HER SHOUJO powers XD |
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| So Utena regained her identity, which nows seems tied to Anthy. Surprised we got some monologue from her, but seems like she's also gaining a sense of identity by being near Utena. |
| That school sure is classy. 4/5 |
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| The amount of bitch-slapping in this show is too damn high! xD Wakaba is such a good friend, Utena really has no idea how lucky she is. It was great seeing that prick Touga lose :D |
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| For whatever reason, the previous episodes have me drawing some really weird parallels between Anthy and Utena. By weird parallels, I mean at one point I began to theorise that Utena was Anthy and vice versa. When Utena said "I want to take back myself" or something to that effect, it reminded me of that. As well, in the ending theme we can see both Anthy and Utena holding the same prince in the same fashion. Obviously, that's a really weird and nonsensical conclusion to draw, so obviously I should try drawing some sort of metaphor or symbolism out of it, but I'm not really getting anything so far. There's definitely something there, though. Oh, and Anthy shows some actual weakness in her heart for once. That's sorta interesting. Touga lost. Predictable. I was kind of hoping that Utena would "Throw everything [she is] away" and her personality would change, but that didn't end up happening. We're basically just back to status quo. Setup for a new arc, I suppose. |
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| So the prince was a duelist? |
| =) Nice to see Utena take back what was taken from her. And ooooooh that episode preview. xD |
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| Wakaba's great. She's full of energy, relentlessly helpful, and not afraid to slap someone back if they need it. Haha. Good job on getting Utena to snap out of it. Anthy's perspective was perhaps the most interesting part of the episode since it gives us a better idea of her true nature. That is, she does indeed take on the ideals of the champion duelist. Although she seemed to miss Utena in her own sort of way, when she was linked by the Power of Dios to Touga she was largely what he wanted her to be-- pretty, friendly, but with little will of her own-- a bird in a cage. This was evident during the duel when her initial thoughts were that Utena couldn't possibly win; it was the product of her link to Touga. However, a shift happened. I don't know if it was Dios that initiated it or Anthy, but the last scene that Jury predicted seems to be what triggered the shift-- Utena's utter determination to win in a hopeless situation, with her blade broken. It was with this shift in the Power of Dios-- or perhaps the coming down of the Power of Dios to aid Utena as it did in the past-- that Anthy began to remember what it was like when she was with Utena ("I know this"), and the Rose Bride's power contained within the Sword of Dios(?) disappeared. When Anthy is linked to Utena by the Power of Dios, she is what Utena wants her to be-- a normal human being-- a bird set free and allowed to fly. Cherishing the regained once-forgotten freedom, tears welled up. That's my interpretation, at least. It's great to have Utena back. She was really cool in the latter half of this episode. |
| Himemiya cares! She really cares! You got her back Utena so don't lose her again! |
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| Gee...who do I dislike the most, Touga or his sister? Touga made sure Anthy was present at that student council meeting just to piss off Juri and Miki. And I still really doubt he's Utena's prince. That is, of course, what made the second half of this episode so great: Utena finding herself again and fighting to get Anthy back. While we still might not know exactly how Anthy feels, I'm going to choose to believe that Anthy wasn't just copying what Utena wanted her to be, and that Anthy was only able to show her true personality around Utena. The part where Utena had to look away/moan in disgust as Anthy is on her knees kissing Touga's sword was some humorously blatant sexual symbolism. And of course, the final shot of Utena at the end of the battle, with her torn clothing, smiling because she's reclaimed her bride was great. |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
| Anthy is just a puppet, she cannot be free with way things are, something must change! |
"A half moon, it has a dark half and a bright half, just like me…", Yuno Gasai |
| Utenaaaa was so unbearable in the first half, jesus, Wakaba is such a good friend bringing her back to her senses. Utena needs more information, like, if she's part of this whole thing why doesn't she know a thing about Anthy, why doesn't she get the letters? Or is her being there jut cause of the Prince and not directly cause of the End of the World plans? |
 SEIZON SENRYAKU: Hungry 100% of the time.Vzla-IT |
| That phallic symbolism though |
| I also tend to believe that Anthy can only be herself with Utena. This was a really good episode. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| Wtf? How did she win the duel with a broken sword? I guess Dios helped her or some plot armor. |
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| ‘I don’t know about Anthy but now I am taking back what I used to be.’ This episode is by far the most beautiful episode of the series. The existential crisis Utena goes through is portrayed quite well both through how she is seen by others and how she sees herself. Questioning what is ‘normal’ and trying to find her stand in life, Utena experiences a crucial character development. Nice to see her being back to her normal self! |
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| Wakaba is best girl. Utena x Wakaba is my ship now. |
| Utena in female uniform looked so beautiful :3 Hearing Anthy's thoughts definitely made her seem more complex and intriguing, I wanna know more of what's going on inside her head! |
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| Wakaba got kissed in the forehead, so cute :3 The episode overall was quite significant, I think - with Anthy getting some actual personality beyond her robotic Rose Bride role (she even seems to remember Dios!) and Utena regaining her self with the help of Dios (I assume that she's connected with the Prince somehow through the ring). Even the music and the visuals before the battle changed in this episode! What surprised me is that Juri actually helped Utena before the battle by giving her the sword. What kind of motivation is that? Also, I feel really uncomfortable every time Touga gets close to Utena, it's like he'll touch me in the next moment. His voluptuousness is just really creepy. |
St0rmbladeMay 10, 2019 6:14 AM
| Ohh the slappening continues! Wkaba is a very good friend, Utena is lucky to have her. The girls uniform didnt suit Utena that much, but her boys uniform is protagonist black so she has a plus there. Was wondering when Utena and Anthy started to care more about each other, I was expecting a completey different show but its slowly getting there. I think its obvious now Touga isnt Utenas prince and thus it wasnt our Utena in their flashback. Though he does hand out rings like candy.. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
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