Sound! Euphonium (light novel)
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Oct 6, 2016 3:37 PM
#151
gust11 said: But... Ah the tragedy!!! Uhm... This one is not Asuka? Here with Reina |
ORUGAdesuOct 6, 2016 4:07 PM
Oct 6, 2016 4:35 PM
#152
| Ha! I tried to marathon Season 1 but forgot when Season 2 was starting. I made it to episode 7 then saw the notification that S2 had its debut episode today. I rushed home from work to give EP 1 a watch and it is spectacular. I'm already invested in whether Nozomi is allowed back in the band. I can see Asuka's and Reina's point, but I'm rather empathetic so I'd likely give her a second chance. Now back to Season 1 episodes 8-13 followed by a re-watch of Season 2 episode 1. |
Oct 6, 2016 4:58 PM
#153
| anyone konws the theme that sound at the 25:00 minute thanks in advance? |
Oct 6, 2016 6:22 PM
#154
ORUGAdesu said: Hm now that you mention it... maybe it is Asuka? I dunno I just assumed that if Kumiko would be sitting at a romantic spot in the sunset with someone, it would have to be Reina but the closer I look the more I see that the hairstyle is more like Asuka's in which case everyone should just forget my stupid short rant about sunken ships. Either way though gust11 said: But... Ah the tragedy!!! Uhm... This one is not Asuka? Here with Reina the ship will sink regardless because of that darned man named Shuuichi xD |
Oct 6, 2016 6:56 PM
#155
badwolf45f said: There are a number of yuri anime, and if they do, it'd be a huge leap forward for a popular show to take an uexpected but unsurprising turn like that.GenesisAria said: You may claim it's fanservice, but the way they've progressed it thus far... okay let's pretend you're me, never read the source material, and are unbiased to it. Looking at these progression of events, it's hard to believe it's not a progression towards yuri, and in all honesty, it's a pretty decently written progression. Honestly, if i were there with them (Kumiko/Reina), i'd tell them they should hook up, because they're so happy together. No need to (regardless of the author's original intentions of writing a cliche "childhood friend always wins" plot) shove in a male relationship just to conform to normalcy and fit in with social commentary. You know, it is possible for the anime writers to do a better job than the original writer... Sadly we're talking about japanese mindset, and they will never go full Yuri route and will keep saying how they are just friends... even if shuuichi didn't exist in the show, it will never go full Yuri... |
Oct 6, 2016 7:16 PM
#156
| Several long months of waiting and it's finally here and in a 48 minute episode so rare do I get another season to a show I actually liked. I loved season 1, the whole show just took me back to my high school days of playing in band and of course it's a beautiful looking show with a solid story. This time we got a nice followup to the summer festival with the white dress with another summer festival and yukatas. Seems Kumiko and her sister have just drifted apart over the years, given she's far older it makes sense. More Reina and Kumiko bonding so let's address this elephant in the room. Whether Reina and Kumiko really become anything more than friends at this point we'll wait and see, at the very least I think it be nice if she doesn't go with Shuuichi. She's had virtually no time with him, there's been no inklings their is a mutual feeling towards each other (opposed to say Tamako Market where Tamako and Mochizou shared a lot of time together) Yes, I'm aware and all of us are by now that is how it is in the novels but that doesn't matter now, this is an adaptation so it could potentially take a different route. If you can't accept adaptations are not regurgitation of the source material, it's time to stop watching adapted anime and stick to the original novels/manga whatever. Be nice to see if KyoAni can take the material in their own way and not have to be slaves to the original, wish more studios could get that kind of freedom, sure would have helped out SAO if they could have written a better script. |
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Oct 6, 2016 7:41 PM
#157
| Beautiful episode with beautiful baiting Just one thing bothered me a bit, Kumiko's voice sounded a bit off sometimes. There was a scene when she made one of those "AH" and it spunded kisda emotionless, idk how to explain. Reina's voice was a bit off too but Kumiko's were more noticeable for me. It really stood of. Animation was superb as always (SASUGA KYOANI) and we'll finally know the big incident that made lots of members drop out. |
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Oct 6, 2016 8:19 PM
#158
| The new OP and ED is so unmemorable. Kumiko's voice is stiff and somewhat uninspired. Reina opening up and interacting more to other characters is a welcome development, I personally loved the small Yuuko-Reina part. And Shuichi is still getting shat on by Kyoani no surprises here. Why even bother at this point? He had the courage to ask out Kumiko and manages to calm her down before competition started last season, but it seems he's a spineless coward now and no fucks are given by Kumiko. |
gnodabOct 6, 2016 8:25 PM
Oct 6, 2016 8:20 PM
#159
flack said: I haven't watched season 1, but are the two main protagonist in a lesbian relationship? See this? We are not delusional. Even the new comers will notice it. Kyoani is slapping us with yuri in the face! ORUGAdesu said: gust11 said: But... Ah the tragedy!!! Uhm... This one is not Asuka? Here with Reina First pic is definitely REINA. The wind causes the slight change in her hair. |
Erika___Oct 6, 2016 8:34 PM
Oct 6, 2016 8:52 PM
#160
| I am again taken aback at how... normal Tomoyo Kurosawa makes Kumiko sound. What a breath of fresh air. |
Oct 6, 2016 8:55 PM
#161
tragedydesu said: thx for this spoiler you really saved me now im not going to watch this serie i suffered enough seeing my ships sink AURGH!!!! omg i feel the same at this point... i'm really tired of anime yuri/yaoibaiting. it's not like i hate straight ships. i ship plenty of them, and i wouldn't even care about her ending up with him in the anime, if they had just played it straight (heh) from the beginning! but no, we can't have that... we can't have anything nice. i really like this show and kyoani's stuff in general so i'm going to press on, but i know i'm going to get REAL tired of the yuribaiting REAL fast... ugh. anyway besides my little rant i liked this episode! was surprised to see it was an hour special (first re:zero and now this... i'm liking this trend!), and they managed to keep the pace just right. i didn't feel bored by anything, except perhaps that girl coming back for approval all week instead of just being rejected outright or at least second time. also one thing which threw me through a loop is how they just dropped us right in the middle of everything... like, no refreshers or anything lol? damn. thankfully my memory isn't THAT hazy of this show but i feel sorry for anyone who has a shit memory and struggled to remember who all these characters were lol on a final note, i love ribbon girl and i'm glad she seems to be getting a little in the way of a "redemption" arc already :3 (i haven't learnt anyone's names except reina's and kumiko's lol oops) |
Oct 6, 2016 10:39 PM
#162
Erika___ said: First pic is definitely REINA. The wind causes the slight change in her hair. No. It is NOT. The scene is from a moment in the novel (volume 2) and IT IS Asuka. Also, shippers should pray that season 2 ends with volume 2. Seeing how many don't like a certain character, it would be best if novel vol. 3 is never animated because that was the first time one of the protagonists admits vaguely liking that certain someone. At least the opening sequences suggest that season 2 will not touch volume 3, so rest assured! <3 |
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Oct 6, 2016 10:45 PM
#163
| I like how the problem with the second years still stirs the members of their club. I thought the problem was already done but it was deeper than I thought. Kumiko x Reina ship is still sailing. |
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Oct 6, 2016 10:53 PM
#164
GenesisAria said: badwolf45f said: There are a number of yuri anime, and if they do, it'd be a huge leap forward for a popular show to take an uexpected but unsurprising turn like that.GenesisAria said: You may claim it's fanservice, but the way they've progressed it thus far... okay let's pretend you're me, never read the source material, and are unbiased to it. Looking at these progression of events, it's hard to believe it's not a progression towards yuri, and in all honesty, it's a pretty decently written progression. Honestly, if i were there with them (Kumiko/Reina), i'd tell them they should hook up, because they're so happy together. No need to (regardless of the author's original intentions of writing a cliche "childhood friend always wins" plot) shove in a male relationship just to conform to normalcy and fit in with social commentary. You know, it is possible for the anime writers to do a better job than the original writer... Sadly we're talking about japanese mindset, and they will never go full Yuri route and will keep saying how they are just friends... even if shuuichi didn't exist in the show, it will never go full Yuri... I do hope that the director thinks the yuri is one of the series' charm so he can make a 'good decision' lol. But still, whatever route it takes, they tease us so much with Kumiko x Reina scenes and Shuuichi looks irrelevant so far, dang. It's like giving a cruel hope hanging on a thin rope. Anyway, at least I hope there are more Kumiko x Reina doujin (non-H is most welcomed) in the future (one way to escape from reality lol) OK enough with the shipping. I think the first ep did a good job. Seems we will get a better picture of last year's incident in this 2nd season. |
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Oct 6, 2016 11:02 PM
#165
GenesisAria said: badwolf45f said: There are a number of yuri anime, and if they do, it'd be a huge leap forward for a popular show to take an uexpected but unsurprising turn like that.GenesisAria said: You may claim it's fanservice, but the way they've progressed it thus far... okay let's pretend you're me, never read the source material, and are unbiased to it. Looking at these progression of events, it's hard to believe it's not a progression towards yuri, and in all honesty, it's a pretty decently written progression. Honestly, if i were there with them (Kumiko/Reina), i'd tell them they should hook up, because they're so happy together. No need to (regardless of the author's original intentions of writing a cliche "childhood friend always wins" plot) shove in a male relationship just to conform to normalcy and fit in with social commentary. You know, it is possible for the anime writers to do a better job than the original writer... Sadly we're talking about japanese mindset, and they will never go full Yuri route and will keep saying how they are just friends... even if shuuichi didn't exist in the show, it will never go full Yuri... There are many Yuri Anime, but they're taken from actual Yuri Manga since the beginning, and actual Yuri sadly it doesn't sell as much that's why you don't see actual Yuri that much... What it sells is Yuri subtext cuz Japanese mindset thinks that 2 girls flirting and such is just "young girls things" and that's okay cuz at the end of the day they will grow up and start liking man... That's why in this episode kumiko was oblivious to shuuichi, like a form of say she is still young and "immature" believe me I'm the first one that wants this show to go Yuri route, but... It won't happen. |
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Oct 6, 2016 11:49 PM
#166
| Just want to say that the first episode was so beautifull for the early introduction, GJ kyoani~~ |
Oct 7, 2016 12:56 AM
#168
| ^ your signature is awesome shanimebib said: Erika___ said: First pic is definitely REINA. The wind causes the slight change in her hair. No. It is NOT. The scene is from a moment in the novel (volume 2) and IT IS Asuka. Agreed: - hairs above right shoulder ✓ - taller than Kumiko ✓ = Asuka In the second pic the person standing near Kumiko is shorter and has Reina's hairstyle (and Asuka usually wears black socks that cover her whole legs), so in that case it's really Reina. javb92 said: anyone konws the theme that sound at the 25:00 minute thanks in advance? Can't stop listening to it lol |
DoubledogOct 7, 2016 1:08 AM
Oct 7, 2016 1:04 AM
#169
| I've seen a lot of KyoAni shows, but Euphonium continues to be top tier KyoAni. Just high quality stuff all around. Glad it's back. The pacing is always so natural and relaxed. Even with a 47-minute premiere, the pacing is perfect. Yuri or no, Kumiko and Reina's chemistry is electrifying. I love watching their interactions. Best part of the show, really. Can't wait to see more. |
Oct 7, 2016 2:43 AM
#170
TuyNOM said: I found this in an old discussion on MAL. Volume 3 novel: In the last line, it says: "Atashi mo Shuuichi no koto suki da yo" :D This is from the collections of anecdotes in volume 4. And it is the last anecdote from the novel. Volume 4 was not published when Kyoto Animation decided to adapt an anime from the novel. If you plan to use the source material of the novel to justify your ship you should have mentioned the moment in vol. 3 when Kumiko was asked about a hairpin she wore (as if she was showing off) and when Asuka teased her if it was from someone special Kumiko replied that it was from her boyfriend. I don't need to mention who that boy was, because you already know the answer. Of course, they still didn't become official after vol. 3 as Kumiko only started to see him in a romantic way at that point. The confession comes later in the final anecdote of vol.4 from Kumiko's side (the page you have in your comment). If they completely diverge from the source, I don't mind. I love both Kumiko (she is my baby ❤❤) and Reina (my other baby ❤). I love Midori and Hazuki too! ❤ If they converge to the source material, I don't mind either because I really liked that as well. But seeing how people are ready to hate the anime if their ship sinks irritates me, not only because I am biased towards KyoAni but also because they are ready to discard everything else the anime has done right. I am done with this shipping war with both sides getting out of control. gdnite. |
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Oct 7, 2016 2:53 AM
#171
| This show is not a yuri nor a shoujo-ai, Kumiko-Reina scenes are just fan service. Whether people like it or not. Nothing can happen between them since Reina has admitted that she's in love with Taki-sensei. So all theses scenes are clearly fan service and they are ruining the show according to me. As for me, I would like the show to be more focused on music or interactions with other characters (like in the first half of the first season) than on this relationship since I think the show was better when Kumiko was interacting with other characters than Reina. Sadly, the show is more popular for its yuri-bait than for its musical aspects. I haven't read the novels, but I've checked some infos about it after finishing the first season because the Kumiko-Reina felt really weird for me. I was more like : "This is clearly fan service" than "Oh, they are becoming really good friends !" I think it would have been better if Kyo Ani had followed the novels. I don't really like when adaptations are different from the original material because most of the time it just feels like an excuse to use the characters but create a different story... Like a fan fiction. Also, Reina is becoming more dislikable... |
Oct 7, 2016 3:42 AM
#172
| @fishpun welcome to anime romance people who love each other never end up together and people who hate each other always end up together and i agree with you ,all that yuribait is just a waste of time since we know nothing will happen btw them why not going straight from the beginning? do they enjoy making us suffer? how the hell im supposed to ship this retard with kumiko and reina x taki , what? just hear about it makes me want to puke |
Oct 7, 2016 6:06 AM
#173
| I just had a really weird feeling all the time watching the episode... Something was off, a lot... |
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Oct 7, 2016 7:29 AM
#174
badwolf45f said: If they managed to pull this one off though, they might be able to change that precedent.GenesisAria said: badwolf45f said: GenesisAria said: You may claim it's fanservice, but the way they've progressed it thus far... okay let's pretend you're me, never read the source material, and are unbiased to it. Looking at these progression of events, it's hard to believe it's not a progression towards yuri, and in all honesty, it's a pretty decently written progression. Honestly, if i were there with them (Kumiko/Reina), i'd tell them they should hook up, because they're so happy together. No need to (regardless of the author's original intentions of writing a cliche "childhood friend always wins" plot) shove in a male relationship just to conform to normalcy and fit in with social commentary. You know, it is possible for the anime writers to do a better job than the original writer... Sadly we're talking about japanese mindset, and they will never go full Yuri route and will keep saying how they are just friends... even if shuuichi didn't exist in the show, it will never go full Yuri... There are many Yuri Anime, but they're taken from actual Yuri Manga since the beginning, and actual Yuri sadly it doesn't sell as much that's why you don't see actual Yuri that much... What it sells is Yuri subtext cuz Japanese mindset thinks that 2 girls flirting and such is just "young girls things" and that's okay cuz at the end of the day they will grow up and start liking man... That's why in this episode kumiko was oblivious to shuuichi, like a form of say she is still young and "immature" believe me I'm the first one that wants this show to go Yuri route, but... It won't happen. |
Oct 7, 2016 8:43 AM
#175
| SO BEAUTIFUL, SO PRETTY! *-* Reina and Kumiko's scenes are sooo good! My OTP, totally. They have such an amazing chemistry together, is not even funny D: Moar of that please! (I totally forgot who was the guy who confessed to Kumiko, when the flashback came I was like "Oh yeah, it was him!") |
Oct 7, 2016 11:01 AM
#176
taynis said: (I totally forgot who was the guy who confessed to Kumiko, when the flashback came I was like "Oh yeah, it was him!") The episode would have been perfect otherwise, right? :P |
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Oct 7, 2016 11:42 AM
#177
Opu77 said: That's also my issue here. I dunno if theres something i don't know that happened on the voice of kumiko's va but it's just bad, and the sound director just allowed that to happened.TonyVonHabsburg said: I dislike the voice change Kumiko has compared to season 1, she sounds off. Last 10 minutes were somewhat better but I'm really not impressed by the voice actress in this first episode, she sounds very disconnected. Visuals were stunning tho, and all other characters sounded fine too. Definitely agree, there was quite a noticeable change in Kumiko's voice compared to any of her scenes in first season, sounded much rougher for some reason, hopefully will change throughout. Everything else was quality though. My other issue is the fogginess of the video but maybe it's because i watched it in 720p resolution. The coloring seems foggy. |
Oct 7, 2016 11:43 AM
#178
Turtles_Leader said: same va but changed her voice.Is it me or they changed Kumiko's voice actress? |
Oct 7, 2016 11:55 AM
#179
L-Ryoshi said: It's back! It's back! My cute widdle Sapphire-chan is back! MIDORI DES!!!!!! |
Oct 7, 2016 1:27 PM
#180
Doubledog said: ^ your signature is awesome shanimebib said: Erika___ said: First pic is definitely REINA. The wind causes the slight change in her hair. No. It is NOT. The scene is from a moment in the novel (volume 2) and IT IS Asuka. Agreed: - hairs above right shoulder ✓ - taller than Kumiko ✓ = Asuka I think this shot if of both of them sitting down. Reina has a longer upper body than Kumiko so sitting down she'll looks taller. Asuka really has no reason to hang around with Kumiko after school except as the club VP/section leader. |
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Oct 7, 2016 1:44 PM
#181
| Kumiko x Reina still OTP and Asuka still best girl and was nice of them to give us an hr ep to start things off am looking forward to more of this season |
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Oct 7, 2016 2:50 PM
#182
Oct 7, 2016 3:11 PM
#183
As an Asexual, I understand how regular people see the "yuribait". But to me, the relationship feels like a mix between bromance and platonic love. I really like that. The fact that Japans culturalisms make light of girl-girl romantic relationships kind of reinforces this imo. Also, Kumiko acknowledges that Reina likes sensei. Logically speaking, why would you be ok with your romantic partner having the hots for someone else? Add that to your card buddy. |
Oct 7, 2016 3:17 PM
#184
| KUMIKO is still awesome, god damn. I was afraid about picking this show up after watching the season 1 quite a long ago, but this slow-paced 47 min special really eased me into it. Kumiko sounds very uninspired in this episode but that's how she was in s1 as well. her character is very unusual and that's what I like about her. the family interaction was great. Reina and Kumiko clearly love each other but whether they have physical attraction is another thing completely. I'm not bothered because whether it is physical or not is clearly not relevant to this story. they had great scenes in s1 and it was never physical but everything worked wonderfully regardless, so it's not needed for them to be in a physical relationship. I think people would do well to stop caring about this; you shouldn't let this bother you and take away from your enjoyment. |
Oct 7, 2016 3:32 PM
#185
| Yes, more of the same Hibike Euphonium I love. And we got treated to a double episode!! :D OP and ED are both very nice, similarly to the previous 2. Very fitting to the show. They did a good job at introducing those 2 characters and their backgrounds, though my memory fails me as I try to remember their names :P More yuri cuteness with Reina and Kumiko, adorable with those 2 together. Sitting there under the bridge at the natsu matsuri <3 Couldn't really have asked for a better first episode, and I trust that KyoAni will make this season just as good as the first. Okay Musaigen no Phantom World wasn't brilliant, but I trust them !! |
Oct 7, 2016 3:47 PM
#186
ramenshoujo said: As an Asexual, I understand how regular people see the "yuribait". But to me, the relationship feels like a mix between bromance and platonic love. I really like that. The fact that Japans culturalisms make light of girl-girl romantic relationships kind of reinforces this imo. Also, Kumiko acknowledges that Reina likes sensei. Logically speaking, why would you be ok with your romantic partner having the hots for someone else? Add that to your card buddy. Okay :) Well said. I can't really argue against that because everyone's got a different view on different matters, right? Which is only natural of course, because we're all different people with different personalities, sexualities, experiences etc. But talking about sexuality and experience. If I may speak out of personal experience; I, for my part, know exactly what it's like to suddenly find myself in this exact situation, where I'm just like And I'm not even kidding. I feel like babygay Kumiko is acting a lot like I am, or rather how I acted when I was her age. (Yeah even downplaying the teacher thing is realistic imo.) And I KNOW there are actually lots of people out there who feel the same way :') Which is why deniers should excuse us for being hopeful, it doesn't mean we're all gonna bitch about it if it doesn't happen. I'm just saying it's a damn good portayal of these matters and I'm honestly so thankful for that alone. |
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Oct 7, 2016 4:31 PM
#187
sbyrstall said: I think this shot if of both of them sitting down. Reina has a longer upper body than Kumiko so sitting down she'll looks taller. Asuka really has no reason to hang around with Kumiko after school except as the club VP/section leader. You don't have to think. IT IS Asuka. The internet is already a swarm of all the pictures where Kumiko and Reina are sitting next to each other (bench, rail-seats etc.) ❤ so you can do without your upper body measurements. :) |
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Oct 7, 2016 4:32 PM
#188
| A bit of the same as the first season as far as i remember, including OST which is still good. Will keep watching to see how this season progresses though. |
Oct 7, 2016 4:45 PM
#189
Oct 7, 2016 5:31 PM
#190
| Wow, didn't expect double-length opening episode but it was great! I like how this is immediate continuation of the first season and how seamlessly they transfered original style to this season... it almost felt like another episode of the first one. Animation was great as always and so were those slice-of-life moments and details that made this opening episode of the second season really lifelike.. and it felt real. They simply managed to capture everyday life even better than before (and that also includes top-notch VA and great portrayal of their emotions). Chracter-wise we got new trio of seconds years from Minami Public Middle-School who are bound to win together by their promise from those days (now I really want to know what happened before that half of them had to leave the club), one Reina-like girl included (well, it's not as bad), Kumiko's sister certainly gonna play some bigger role (possible love interest of the teacher?) and new instructor who is bound to shuffle some things around as the drama already started to unfold and it was good. One only has to wonder if Sapphire and Hazuki characters fades into background this time, only to put Akane and Mizore to the front. Music-wise, the absolute highlight of this episode was its inclusion of Borodin's Polovetsian Dances: If I have to guess they would reprise this song at later stage at their competition as they wouldn't be teasing it otherwise (much to dismay some of older members but there is the past to overcome so I hope they'll do it) I absolutely love their hanabi visit (shame on everyone who only see yuri baiting instead of friendship in that part) All-in-all, this was one of the best starting episode I've seen in five years maybe (of course, as it felt more like a movie.. let's hope they'll retain the quality even further). Well, and one more thing, I simply had to.. :D Is that Riko girl? I kinda don't remember if she had any role in the first season (anyone cares to remind me?) but now I see her "character" lies elsewhere :D |
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Oct 7, 2016 7:26 PM
#191
shanimebib said: taynis said: (I totally forgot who was the guy who confessed to Kumiko, when the flashback came I was like "Oh yeah, it was him!") The episode would have been perfect otherwise, right? :P LOL Poor guy, I actually forgot him :( But you know, I was reading some of the posts and yeah, if he ends up with Kumiko in the end (like in the novel) I hope they build their relationship because man, I can't buy it right now :O His rival, Reina, is going to get the girl with he doesn't step up XD |
Oct 7, 2016 8:19 PM
#192
| This is seriously beatiful, I'm falling in love with this show now ;-; |
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Oct 7, 2016 9:06 PM
#193
Mich666 said: If I have to guess they would reprise this song at later stage at their competition as they wouldn't be teasing it otherwise If that were to happen, I wonder whether it would be criminal of Asuka to actually put a veto on this. She has the largest followers in the band after all. If she says NO, I would reckon it wouldn't get selected for their piece in the competition. If anything, Taki-sensei acknowledges that she is one of the two core players (alongside Kaori) for Kitaouji's any shot in the competitions. Taki, as a matter of fact, believed the Kitaouji would benefit if the band was based on the strong foundation that can be achieved through Asuka and Kaori's role as core performers for other members. Reina and Midori just ended up adding more strength to it. At this point it is obvious that Asuka and Kaori hold the most power in the band, but both are so different. One is so transparent while the other wouldn't take off her mask. Maybe someone in the band will peel it off for her. Someone, say for instance, is in the same group as her. ;) |
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Oct 7, 2016 9:13 PM
#194
Lawli-Pop said: I'm just saying it's a damn good portayal of these matters and I'm honestly so thankful for that alone. (edited the rest out for length) dude i'm so glad this wasn't just me! like, this very particular part of the episode as well. i feel like we had a few of these "oh... shit. SHIT." moments in s1 too so it's not like it's the first time, but i definitely felt some emotional tugging at my heart during this scene because it so clearly reminded me of the time i suddenly realized my feelings for my best friend were a little more than platonic... lol... |
Oct 7, 2016 10:51 PM
#195
| Btw, my babies will be in their mizugis in the next episode. ❤ ///Nosebleeds/// ❤ |
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Oct 7, 2016 11:17 PM
#196
| I'm really starting to get pretty pissed off that the anime hasn't explained why all those second-years quit, because the drama it caused is pretty ridiculous. The fact they aren't willing to let a girl back into the club when she is clearly trying hard to get back in is raising some serious red flags. There is bad blood in the club to the point where it feels like someone stole someone's boyfriend. What I hate most about this drama is that I don't even know if they were right to quit. There are times where the right decision is to quit. |
Oct 7, 2016 11:32 PM
#197
| I haven't read through the the read but anyone else get mad lesbo vibes from this whole episode? Like da faq. |
Oct 8, 2016 1:23 AM
#198
Phaetons_Folly said: I'm really starting to get pretty pissed off that the anime hasn't explained why all those second-years quit, because the drama it caused is pretty ridiculous. The fact they aren't willing to let a girl back into the club when she is clearly trying hard to get back in is raising some serious red flags. There is bad blood in the club to the point where it feels like someone stole someone's boyfriend. What I hate most about this drama is that I don't even know if they were right to quit. There are times where the right decision is to quit. Anime already explained that in ep.7 of the first season. What they still don't explain here is why they don't let Nozomi back into the band. |
Oct 8, 2016 2:41 AM
#199
shanimebib said: If that were to happen, I wonder whether it would be criminal of Asuka to actually put a veto on this. She has the largest followers in the band after all. If she says NO, I would reckon it wouldn't get selected for their piece in the competition. If anything, Taki-sensei acknowledges that she is one of the two core players (alongside Kaori) for Kitaouji's any shot in the competitions. Taki, as a matter of fact, believed the Kitaouji would benefit if the band was based on the strong foundation that can be achieved through Asuka and Kaori's role as core performers for other members. Reina and Midori just ended up adding more strength to it. At this point it is obvious that Asuka and Kaori hold the most power in the band, but both are so different. One is so transparent while the other wouldn't take off her mask. Maybe someone in the band will peel it off for her. Someone, say for instance, is in the same group as her. ;) Well, for all that we know Asuka plays big role in this season as her conflict with (probably) Mizore is even featured on key art of this season. With that being said and with foundation laid out by this episode I feel there will be another opinion split and taking sides in their club, one that will even break Reina and Kumiko friendship (Kumiko probably sides Nozomi/Mizore, while Reina stands firm with Asuka by her "not giving up" attitude). That's also why KyoAni put so much emphasis on their relation in the first episode and that's also why I find yuribait opinions as unfounded - because whole hanabi scene was obviously just setup to show how fragile such relations can be and that you had to treasure them. It was also setup for something grim coming next that will shatter their fleeting dream. In light of this Kumiko's fascination by Reina in the end was more like a feeling she had found her kindred spirit, platonic but very intimate, rather than any kind of romantic infatuation between them or what some other users ( @Lawli-Pop ) hope for. |
Oct 8, 2016 2:50 AM
#200
nikolai131 said: Several people, including myself, are very curious what Naoko Yamada's definition of yuri is. I'd love to know what her thoughts are on the position of lesbian girls and women in Japanese society and hope she gets asked more follow up questions about her thoughts on portrayals of yuri in Japanese media in that context. Given her position could she speak freely about those topics? I’m quite certain her work invites the conversation and she is aware of that.1 episode and already my favourite anime this season ^^ KyoAni is powah~ PS: for everyone who still believes this is yuri please go read the novels, thank you :) Selective excerpt from a translation of an interview with Ishihara and Yamada. She said the following about the mountain scenes in episode 8 of season 1: "Yamada: That kind of late night sensation came during work on the storyboards. I very much enjoyed that “writing a love letter” feeling it had. Kumiko gradually appeared to look like a young boy during the mountain scenes. I thought “giving the feeling of a young boy falling in love one summer” would be nice. It’d be a “first” for Kumiko." https://ultimatemegax.wordpress.com/2016/01/26/animestyle-007-sound-euphonium-interview-director-tatsuya-ishihara-series-director-naoko-yamada-part-2/ It is hardly surprising that scenes composed as though writing a love letter were read as an actual love letter by a substantial portion of her audience. Myself included. Why does Yamada feel the need to change Kumiko's gender in her description of the sentiments she is trying to convey? Is it perhaps because her conversation partners are both men and she wants to give them something they can identify with from their personal experience in a situation like that? Whatever the reason for Yamada’s mental switch, Kumiko is not a young boy, however, and neither is Reina. What Yamada set out to portray was someone falling in love and she succeeded. Since they are both girls that makes those scenes yuri and that's how they will be remembered, by me and many others, regardless... Movie spoiler: In the film, mostly a recap of season 1, the scenes leading up to the duet were trimmed considerably and snow woman references were removed entirely. Yuri is not my default expectation. I started watching this series because of the musical instruments in the promotional images, completely unaware of Takeda's novels as source material. My first thoughts about potential romantic relationships came when Shuuichi appeared on screen. More specifically when I saw Kumiko's reaction. My thoughts were something along these lines: "I hope this girl can reject this guy and is allowed to have meant it by the end of the series". Thoughts of a potential yuri couple didn't come for me until episode three or perhaps five but probably not earlier than that. At some point I started looking to spoil myself, to confirm that what I thought I was seeing was what was meant to be depicted. I haven't read the novels. Only forum comments and translated excepts but I have been thoroughly spoiled on that aspect of the series. Season two: Some scenes in this first episode of the second season appear to have been created with that same emotion in mind as was expressed by Yamada about the creation of episode 8 of season 1 in the translation of that interview. I can see those scenes at the Uji fireworks as not romantic - as signs of friendship- but it takes effort and it is not my default position anymore to see their relationship as platonic, despite the spoilers. On first look I see those too as signs of infatuation. As signs of falling in love and, here too, I think it is deliberate. In that same episode 8, a boy, Shuuichi, rejects a girl, Hazuki, and is allowed mean it. The girl, Kumiko, rejects a boy, but is not. Kumiko's rebuffs -we are told- will not be lasting. That too is troubling to me. Her feelings of first love were -per Yamada's thoughts on episode 8- for a girl but she'll eventually succumb to the charms of the boy ... or does Kumiko revert to her former self? Does she eventually give up resisting in the face of his relentless pursuit of her. Does she arrive at a point when continuing to reject him becomes more tiring and troublesome than entering into the relationship he desires? That's what it looks like to me... For the moment, being charmed has very little to do with it. As many commenters before me, I know where we’ll supposedly end up but I don’t see how we’ll get there and they’ve one less episode to convince me that we should end up there. Would those girls consider that their mutual attraction can be as romantic as the language -and settings- of their interactions - if they lived in a society which doesn't by default portray a lesbian relationships as one without a future, as undesirable beyond a certain age? I don't a-priori reject a teacher student relationship either. In the sense that I don't a-priori reject Reina's feelings for Taki-sensei. I think they are quite genuine. It doesn't change the attraction I see between her and Kumiko for me. These attractions can exist simultaneously. I find the relationship between the two girls still more compelling at the moment. Despite what I've been told about the novels. According to novel spoilers, the man, Taki, is the one who does the rejecting as well. It isn’t just about the Yuri. The boys and men appear to have all the agency and the girls appear to be at their mercy… but perhaps that interpretation too is the result of my faulty perception. I don’t have to like these aspect of the story… I may be further disappointed about these issues but I’d rather be foolishly optimistic … for the moment there is enough pay off to keep watching, even for the yuri angle. |
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