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I am a relative new-comer to anime series though my history of watching Japanese animated cinema and TV extends back more than forty years (yes, I'm that old!). Long ago I watched Gigantor and Star Blazers when they were syndicated on TV. After that first exposure I went several years without paying much attention until my nieces introduced me to Miyazaki's works of art. I still paid little attention to much of the series and was really only vaguely aware of them until the Fall of 2012 when I was introduced to (and soon became addicted to) Girls und Panzer.
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The one that really hooked me though, was Bleach. Once I got going in Bleach, I went from 2-4 episodes a day to 12-16 every day after work, and 20+ episodes a day on the weekends/days off.
I marathoned Bleach in about 24 days.
We are at the beginning of the season and at the Anime Guild our main specialization is being a Seasonal Club.
We choose the best Opening, Ending, Character and of course Anime of the Season with also a Review Section and a Power Ranking Group
If that seems appealing to you, you should join in for the full Fall 2016 experience!
I have already sent an invite as well as provide a link to our club ^.^ - http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=63899
Not a problem :) The new "bell" feature at the top right was made for just such situations :)
->I can see how some of the younger ones can 'grow out of it,' but I myself am growing into it.
One of the things that has surprised me about anime is that I find I enjoy a lot of the drama/romance stories - something I've never been able to do with "live action" moves/tv. Not sure why.
of "moe" and "retard". I would not use that word myself,
but it seems like an acceptable way for a moe-hater to refer
to a moe-lover.
to hear back from you.
Regarding, SoL, I want to emphasize that it is outside my area of expertise. I have a
rough idea of what SoL is. However, I would like to see somebody give some kind of
definition, along with some examples of SoL and some instructive examples of series
that are not SoL. So I lack confidence to make any firm statements about SoL.
With respect to genres in general, it is normally the case that a given anime series
can be tagged with more than one genre. So there is no logical reason to suppose
that a series couldn't be CGDCT+SoL. And logically one could imagine CGDCT
without being SoL. So your question makes sense and you have stated it clearly.
As I see it, what you are asking is, "Does being CGDCT imply being SoL?"
I think that you have stated an important question, and it challenges the way that
CGDCT should be defined. Does CGDCT have to be SoL? In the absence of a
proper definition of SoL to work with, I don't want to do a poor job of answering
your question.
Likewise, I suppose that one could possibly have CGDCT+Yuri or CGDCT+Ecchi,
CGDCT+magical girl, CGDCT+Yuri+mecha, CGDCT+horror and so on.
But when you use the term "crossover", it gives me the impression that you tend
to think of a given anime series as being primarily of one genre. I am not saying
that you are wrong. This is the kind of point that I would like to see anime fans
grapple with. You might well be right. But I believe that it is not normally the
practice to refer to a "primary genre" of an anime series. Typically, a list of
genres is given, in no particular order.
Yes, with GuP there were some people who were posting very negative comments.
One possibility is that they were "trolls". In other words, people who posted their
comments with the motive of trying to get people upset. One particular thread
had quite a lot of that. It was started by a teenager in Toronto why loved to
taunt people in every conceivable way. I have to admire him for his energy and
writing skill. There were a few other people who simply disliked the series. There
were many people who loved to point out historical inaccuracies. This even led the
director to correct some of the errors for the Blu-ray/DVDs. He made it very clear
that he aimed for perfection. He made a famous statement that the tanks must
be accurate. As far as I could see, this was true from every point of view.
I don't use rude or obscene words in my posts. But I respect that younger people
have a different culture and the standards have changed. I certainly did take note
of use of the phrase "m** f*g" to denote people who like moe. Another common
phrase was "m** f*nb*y". I reject the first phrase because it is homophobic. I
reject the second phrase because it is sexist. My preference is for a new phrase
"moe pig" which only came into English in the WataMote series when Tomoko
was sitting in the restaurant with Yuu-chan. In Japanese, "moe pig" is 萌え豚,
pronounced "moebuta". You can Google to find that it is extensively used in
online discussions among Japanese fans. But I am sad to see that "moe pig" is
not catching on quickly among English speaking fans. On the other hand, I have
not seen an anti-moe post for a while.
You are right that people take things personally. On the other hand, there are
genuine personal attacks. Fights get started and continue until one of the
combatants gets tired. But for the energetic young fans, that can take quite a
long time. I don't think it is reasonable to expect that there aren't going to be
fights. But I haven't seen any fights in recent months, thank goodness. In
addition, I actually see fights as a healthy, beneficial activity for young people
here on MAL, since it helps them to develop interpersonal skills which are important
for them to advance in the real world. They can take risks and make mistakes
when posting anonymously here on MAL. Over time, their sophistication will
develop. Back in the 1970s, we had no such opportunities.
The issue of sexualization is also outside of my specialty. I respect anybody who
explores it seriously. In addition, here on MAL we have people who post from all
over the world, including many in non-English-speaking places. There is a huge
variety of points of view. Different societies have different standards. From my
point of view, I like to avoid taking a stand that is specific to my own part of the
world. But that might be the coward's way out.
When you say "wargaming" are you perhaps referring to the kind of wargames
that are played on a large piece of cardboard (representing land) using many
small pieces of cardboard to represent military units? In addition, dice were used
to determine the outcome of battles. That is what "wargame" means to me. I
played wargames in the mid to late 1970s. Dungeons and Dragons was also big.
I was born in 1962. Luckily, I got out of playing wargames once I entered senior
high school, which is why I was able to get into university and get a job. But the
mental engagement of playing wargames built a kind of intellectual discipline that
was surely far better than passively watching TV or getting into alcohol and drugs.
It also got me personally involved with other people with comparable goals.
here:
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=673057
However, by comparison, here is an ideal example of the proper documentation of
an anime genre which some anonymous people created for "Yuri":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_%28genre%29
I think creating a Wikipedia is definitely the correct way to do it, but I don't want to
get into that myself.
Regarding "Moe" anime, that appears to be a very hot topic. I have seen extended
angry debates here on MAL on the topic of Moe, even on a thread for a series
which itself was not even Moe! So perhaps the passions have to settle somewhat
before it is possible to write some kind of permanent account of the genre.
Girls und Panzer changed my life. It got me engaged in MAL. Prior to that, my
habit when watching an anime series was to make use of all the additional
information that I could find on the internet, such as the Wikipedia article and the
TV Tropes page. In this way, I came across MAL posts. And then I realized that I
could become a member and make my own posts. It was difficult at the beginning
since I was sensitive to the inevitable criticism.
In the case of Girls und Panzer, this was extremely intimidating. It seemed that
most people there were experts on tanks. I was only able to contribute to the
discussion by finding certain highly-specialized niches that nobody else was posting
on. So eventually I became the most respected expert on the voice actresses and
their personal lives. But at the outset I had no particular interest or knowledge on
that topic.
Something else that I really enjoy is to create a poll for people to vote on. This
requires a bit of imagination, since you have to come up with some question which
is interesting. Sometimes polls can add a great deal to the discussion. It is not
uncommon to see that the opinion of the "silent majority" is quite different from
the "vocal minority". The procedure to create a poll is simple.
Most recently, I have been trying to learn how to use Amazon Stalker in order to
see how popular a given series is in terms of Blu-ray/DVD sales. Posting on this
subject has its hazards, since I immediately attracted criticism by many other
people who are far, far more knowledgeable on this important topic. From
listening to their comments I am slowly making progress. In particular, I think
that Non Non Biyori is doing relatively well, so that it is plausible that we will hear
an announcement for a second "cour" at the end of the year. I will mention that
"a cour" refers to a "season" of 12 or 13 episodes of a series. You may have
noticed a huge recent controversy about a number of series being two cour in
length this time, which has rarely been the case in the past several years. There
was some rumor floating around on the internet.
joined MAL in Fall 2012. Like you, I was primarily motivated
by wanting to join the discussion on Girls und Panzer. I paid
no attention to anime until I retired a few years ago. I am
older than you. It seems to me that the first Miyazaki movie
that I watched was Kiki's Delivery Service, when I happened
to have some spare time in the 1980s. All of these years I
was only vaguely aware of shows from Japan such as Sailor
Moon, Astroboy, Cardcaptors and the one with mechas, but
I didn't watch them. But now I have the chance to catch up.
For example, I just started watching "Touch" ( タッチ )
which was on TV in Japan from 1985 to 1987 and had
101 episodes. More recently, I am closely following the
"Cute Girls Doing Cute Things" genre, not just from the
point of view of enjoying them, but also for compiling
their history. Non Non Biyori is a great example. Based on
my records, we appear to be living in the golden age of
CGDCT. According to my definition, Girls und Panzer is
not CGDCT since driving tanks is not a cute, slice of life
activity. Recent CGDCT were Kitakubu and Yuyushiki.
I want to watch closely for Sakura Trick which starts early
in 2014, but I don't know if it will be CGDCT or not.
Since it seems you are big on Girls und Panzer, you might
or might not be interested in a parody manga called:
"Girls Und Panzer Lovey Dovey Panzer". You can Google
the title to find the translated manga online. Also, every
GuP fan is waiting for the OVA to come out, and I guess
there is a movie as well.