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Jan 5, 2009 8:03 PM
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The incestuous buttsex was such a great scene really.

Sure it happens somewhere so bonus points for realness but it isn't really that :\

It was just really refreshing to see this kind of scene instead of the usual cutting of hair bullshit. Hair grows back. I haven't had a dick up my arse so I can't say that I know if a sphincter ever goes back to the way it was (fairly certain it doesn't)...but still that's commitment! Imagine the psychological damage and all that shit! ...though it's kind of curious in that he could have pulled out his knife and tortured him or something...he seemed a little too willing :3???

Also Ichiise has said more words than in every past episode. Nice voice.
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Mar 9, 2009 7:12 AM
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Toyama does seem to have a real lack of self-worth. Notice how he lets the Organo member who helped him out (forget his name) pat his ass, and tells Ichise that he lets his dad have his way with him out of obligation to that guy.

I'd like to see him hook up with Ichise; they'd make a great couple. Ichise's unpredictable, suppressed anger + Toyama's internalized self-loathing + their father issues would create some really interesting chemistry. I really doubt the show would go that far, though.

I'm loving the places this show is willing to go, though. There really isn't a more powerful scenario to show the extent of someone's willingness to totally deface themselves for social/financial comfort.
Nov 15, 2009 11:03 PM
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Great episode. Sure the aforementioned scene made me more than a little uncomfortable, but Texhnolyze is never afraid to test boundaries. Also, yeah, Ichise has a real cool voice. Also, even though I have no idea what they are talking about, the scene between Ichise and Ran was really well done and seems to hint that Ichise is aware of something.
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Nov 24, 2009 5:56 PM
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Great episode. Sure the aforementioned scene made me more than a little uncomfortable, but Texhnolyze is never afraid to test boundaries. Also, yeah, Ichise has a real cool voice. Also, even though I have no idea what they are talking about, the scene between Ichise and Ran was really well done and seems to hint that Ichise is aware of something.


They were talking about the future.

I just laughed with that guy going everywhere trying to play the boss while the others were laughing at him. That was so funny. No one took him seriously.
And Ichice finally starts to talk and show that his actually thinking about something.Until now i wasn't even certain if he wasn't slightly retarded.
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May 14, 2010 2:21 AM
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Am I missing something, they didn't actually show the incestuous buttsex did they?

Or did I watch a censored version?
Jul 2, 2010 5:10 PM
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No, it's all implied. Dude, at first I was like, why's his shirt off? Why'd he kick him in the butt? Then I was like, oh buttsex....
Feb 10, 2011 11:15 PM
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I sort of get it why Toyama's putting up with Kohakura being his boss and all that gratitude but WTH? Even his own father?... And for just that damn info? Oh well whatever.

So Ichise can actually hold a normal conversation after all, I'm getting bored of his 'usual' screams of rage. :P
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Mar 27, 2011 5:53 AM
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God, what that guy did to his son?! Thats crazy! Pedophile!
Jan 20, 2012 11:22 PM
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So that is what happened? What do you mean bout cutting of hair?
Jan 20, 2012 11:23 PM

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hznu said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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The incestuous buttsex was such a great scene really.

Sure it happens somewhere so bonus points for realness but it isn't really that :

It was just really refreshing to see this kind of scene instead of the usual cutting of hair bullshit. Hair grows back. I haven't had a dick up my arse so I can't say that I know if a sphincter ever goes back to the way it was (fairly certain it doesn't)...but still that's commitment! Imagine the psychological damage and all that shit! ...though it's kind of curious in that he could have pulled out his knife and tortured him or something...he seemed a little too willing :3???

Also Ichiise has said more words than in every past episode. Nice voice.
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Am I missing something, they didn't actually show the incestuous buttsex did they?

Or did I watch a censored version?

No they didn't it was implied.
Jan 20, 2012 11:24 PM

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Sarahmi said:
God, what that guy did to his son?! Thats crazy! Pedophile!

Yeah, that's pretty crazy isn't it? First time I've seen that in an anime.
May 8, 2012 5:14 PM

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Blah, this son-raping father really made this anime 100% realistic, nuff said. But I kinda feel bad about Toyama - he doesn't seem like he's getting fucked on his own will(as someone before me noted, he's lacking self-worth).

On the bright side, Ichinose talked more than ever before, and that felt just great. Oonishi is still alive and kicking? I thought he'd be killed by now. But Organo seems to be "firing" him soon anyway.

I'm interested in what goal will Ichinose find for himself. But for sure he's a likable character at the moment.
Jul 17, 2012 8:44 AM

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Man, that was seriously some fucked up shit right there. I like this anime.
Jul 27, 2012 5:22 PM

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Very disturbing episode, but that's what makes this series great!
Toyama seems to have at the same time a ton of gratitude to his boss(Kohakura?), and anger for the abuse he has to put up with.

I believe he made the sacrifice to get abused by his own father because he can't kill him(you can see him making some empty threats) but he still needs the information, that's how big he thinks he's debt to Kohakura is. Interesting character this Toyama.

Also I wonder what exactly was Ichise talking about with Ran in the last scene, was he asking about his own death? And why does Ran react like that, not wanting to see anything anymore? :o

One of the best episodes so far IMO.

P.S. Love the reaction from the bosses of the other organizations, Small fry. ahah
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Feb 7, 2013 3:34 AM

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The father and son gay activity was unexpected lol. Laughed when everyone called that guy small fry. Anyway, great episode.

May 23, 2013 6:55 AM
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Sarahmi said:
God, what that guy did to his son?! Thats crazy! Pedophile!


Wut? Pedophile?
Jun 3, 2013 5:12 PM

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Huh, interesting episode.
Want the main character to speak more. And I want more of the orange haired girl.
Jun 5, 2013 3:09 PM

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love Toyama's character. my heart just stopped to the scene where he's being abused by his monstrous father.
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Jun 17, 2013 3:31 AM

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Aug 30, 2013 7:04 AM
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That is some fucked up shit damn it this anime is awesome.
Sep 30, 2013 3:02 AM
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Some serious things happening here. That's one fu*ked up society they have.
Ichise is strangely fitting in.
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Nov 3, 2013 1:37 AM

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TopgunUK said:
Am I missing something, they didn't actually show the incestuous buttsex did they?

Or did I watch a censored version?


I thought I missed it too at first.
I mean, this seems like an anime that might've actually showed something, but sometimes making it implied makes it that much more terrifying if you let your imagination wild and realize all the psychological trauma it must cause him...

Nov 7, 2013 9:09 AM

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Why didn't they just threaten to kill the father? I'm sure Ichise could have just beaten the shit out of him till he talked . . .

Anyways, that last bit was ominous. Going to guess that Ichise's future isn't all sparkly and full of rainbows.
Apr 13, 2014 12:21 AM

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Just like Ergo Proxy, you just don't know what you're getting in Texhnolyze.
A incestuous buttsex. People in this city are twisted as fuck.
And damn dat voice of Ichise.
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Apr 15, 2014 9:43 AM

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Pretty interesting development!
May 13, 2014 12:23 AM

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That's one disgusting papa, that's his son ffs. Anyway pretty cool development, Ichise joining Onishi.

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I just laughed with that guy going everywhere trying to play the boss while the others were laughing at him. That was so funny. No one took him seriously.

I know right! That was funny, especially the scene with the cult gang leader, no fuck was given.

That's a cool brotherhood formed between Ichise and the "son".. or maybe I am just sensing things wrong.
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Jan 4, 2015 11:59 AM

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I thought it was cool that the guy trying to take over the organo wasn't taken seriously by Shinji because he knew he was useless.

Jan 17, 2015 4:45 PM

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Why is this show so good? I already like the new guy with the idiotic hairstyle.
If I have to guess, Ran followed Yoshi because he was the only one who could change the future she sees, and she's disappointed in Ichise because he chose to conform to the rules of the city.
Feb 18, 2015 9:12 PM
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Onishi is alive, hallelujah!!!
Jun 9, 2015 4:54 AM
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Haha, that's his son he is having gay sex with lmao. I wonder what Ichise going to do now ? Probably rekt some shit.
Aug 2, 2015 11:12 AM

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Disturbing ep.... small fry lol
Oct 29, 2015 8:44 PM

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oi boy long time no see, come here i'll give you father's love
Nov 15, 2015 2:42 PM

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omfg ichise spoke!


Dec 13, 2015 9:50 AM

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Liking this show more and more, its really interesting to see the interactions with every character.
The "incest" scene was kinda unexpected.
Nov 8, 2016 9:04 PM

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People seem surprised he was so willing to do that with his father, but I don't think that was anywhere near the first time it'd happened.
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What a caring father..

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Jan 14, 2018 11:59 AM

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Nothing like molesting your own child, words can't describe how degenerate that sad excuse of a human is.

Glad to see Onishi is alive and the guy trying to screw him over got exposed.
Jan 24, 2019 12:11 PM

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Here's hoping Toyama's dad gets what's coming to him.
I'm also not sure what OP means by cutting of hair..
But yeah, it definitely doesn't seem like this was the first time Toyama's been stuck doing "favours" for his father. Presumably things were even worse than that, since he seemingly accepts that behavior from Kohakura, and even considers him to have saved him from his father. You don't consider yourself saved if you experience the exact same treatment elsewhere, so i think it's pretty clear his father did even worse things than what we've seen so far.
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Doc gives me the creeps
Oct 6, 2019 9:12 AM

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poor Tooyama, I feel bad for him
Oct 30, 2019 4:31 PM

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we ve got another candidate for best anime dad
Aug 4, 2020 11:47 PM

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First 10 episodes helped me to sleep very well, but now it has my full attention...also, this episode was disturbing af
Mar 25, 2021 7:34 AM

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and mfs say goku was a bad father
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Mar 27, 2021 6:01 PM

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So this are the incest and rape parts that review was talking about...
Apr 19, 2021 12:38 PM

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So the lad does, speak.. Lol that political fat dude really is trying hard only to have shit backfire kek.

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Apr 27, 2021 4:01 AM
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Toyama had to suffer being raped by his own father to get info about Sakasaki, but Mizuno is the one who paid him to place the bomb??
Ichise is working for Oonishi now but seems like he once again met Ran, I guess it's time for things to start between them.
Dec 29, 2021 8:38 PM

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At this point I'm convinced the political aspect is just pretentious filler that's supposed to show how powerless these fools are in the hands of fate.

You know one thing that's caught my attention is the reasons people get texhnolyzed for, like Toyama using it to cover up or change his identity, which is like the opposite for Ichise since it pretty much gave him an identity. He's definitely developed a lot as a character seeing how he contrasts from his former uncivilized self in ep1, I mean, I never expected him to actually join the Organo
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It's terrible to have a father like that.
Mar 6, 2023 9:51 PM

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Father of the Year award right there.
Ichise was more rational this episode. Looks like the guy telling him to "control himself" worked out.


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May 28, 2023 4:24 PM

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What an ep this was. Lately, these eps have been catching more of my attention. 
Ichise literally speaks, lol. I really havent been feeling him as a protagonist/character prior to this ep. He just doesnt have much of a presence for me to care about. I'm glad he actually speaks, quite the voice.
Like everyone said, that guy trying to take Organa is such a dweeb. Its funny how the Union dude was like "Who is he?" and the leader was like "Just some small fry". Same goes for other group.
Now, the main thing many talk about this ep, Tooyama. Wow, the organization is all handsy on him and so is his father. His father was very creepy trying to get all close to Ichise but then he takes his son. Like, wtf. Especially as he just plays with his sons nether regions with his foot. Damn bro, not like this
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