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Jan 5, 2018 2:31 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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That was the best episode yet, in my opinion. The animation for the fight was so spectacular. This is what I was expecting from this show and I'm glad it's delivering. I'm again sad that another antagonist has left the show, but looking forward to what comes next since they did well to establish that it wasn't just Silene looking for Akira.

The change of ending song was great. I might pick up this soundtrack if they ever release it fully.
Jan 5, 2018 5:06 AM
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End of Evangelion reference: Spotted.
Jan 5, 2018 5:38 AM
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Well, I’m halfway through, and I’m kind of underwhelmed. Yeah, it’s cool and all, but I expect more from Yuasa. This just seems like the most basic, crowd pleasing thing he’s ever done. Music is good though as expected, lots of house and acid techno and I’m here for it. I had unrealistic expectations for this show, so maybe it my fault. We’ll see...
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Jan 5, 2018 6:27 AM
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I wish that the battle between Silene and Devilman would have been longer.
Jan 5, 2018 12:47 PM
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So we get Devilman vs. Silene in this episode. Nicely done, especially with its stylish visuals. But I think the fight worked better because of its soundtrack rather than its visuals. Anyways, now we'll be getting into the meat of Devilman. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Crybaby to bring up the anti-war themes.
Jan 5, 2018 2:12 PM
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Lmao Akira walking around with a boner

He almost fucked her to death tho

Really loved this episode and the demons' fight. Plus it was nice that Silene's ending was the same as in the manga
Jan 5, 2018 10:02 PM
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This episode was awesome. He literally fucked her to death lmao! The animation and everything was great and the ending with her dying in place like that was pretty cool. Also it brought up the point that demons can experience love as well.

This show definitely isn’t afraid of sexual content and I’m glad it isn’t. Sex and sexual desire seems to have a big role in this show.
Jan 5, 2018 10:05 PM
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was that a motherfucking THE END OF EVANGELION reference????????
Jan 6, 2018 9:40 AM
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Devilman's semen is so strong it covers the ceiling!

Something's brewing with Miki vs. Miko...

Honestly, I was sort of expecting Akira to give in and completely lose his humanity with the combination of a sixteen-year-old boy's natural lust and the crazy feelings coming from his demon side. Thankfully, he still remains Devilman, the devil of justice!

"If you wanna get screwed that badly...I'll screw you!" The subtitles said 'fuck'. Why can the dub of this very adult anime not say 'fuck'? #LetDevilmanSayFuck
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Jan 7, 2018 3:39 PM

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Wish there was an explanation of what killed her. Wonder if the merger just failed or something.
Jan 7, 2018 11:31 PM

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RediceRyan said:
Wish there was an explanation of what killed her. Wonder if the merger just failed or something.

My thoughts were that in that moment the Demons found love and emotion, which is something that can’t naturally co-exist in a demon’s heart and as a result destroyed them. Idk
Jan 8, 2018 2:38 AM

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The BGM of this episode is my favorite so far. Great series, I'll probably start reading the manga.
Jan 8, 2018 11:33 AM
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This anime contradict itself. For all, it attempts to humanize Akira and show us how compassionate he is I find it ironic that he literally rape a female to death. Is rape suppose to be appropriate just because she was a demon? The worst part about this is that the raping act could be what actually killed her in the end.That really fucked up. What was the team behind this anime thinking? Seriously.
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keiolerik said:
This is anime contradict itself. For all, it attempts to humanize Akira and show us how compassionate he is I find it ironic that he literally rape a female to death. Is rape suppose to be appropriate just because she was a demon?

Yes. Rape for demons is all about power. Sirene was his foe, and he ripped demons apart before. I don't see the problem.
Jan 8, 2018 11:46 AM
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Yes. Rape for demons is all about power. Sirene was his foe, and he ripped demons apart before. I don't see the problem.[/quote]

But that the issue I have. The show constantly wants to tell its viewers that Akira may look like a demon but he has a human heart and wouldn't do horrible things. It actually more messed up that he rapes a dying person.
Jan 8, 2018 12:09 PM

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keiolerik said:

But that the issue I have. The show constantly wants to tell its viewers that Akira may look like a demon but he has a human heart and wouldn't do horrible things. It actually more messed up that he rapes a dying person.

Yeah, but he's killing demons with no mercy from day one. It's always been fucked up.

Jan 8, 2018 12:32 PM

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Gotta agree the rape was a really unnecessary addition. Otherwise Sirene got better treatment than Jinmen.

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Wish there was an explanation of what killed her. Wonder if the merger just failed or something.

She was already dying, that's why she questioned Kaim's willingness to merge. The merge doesn't give her life, just more power for the duration she had to live.
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Jan 8, 2018 7:22 PM

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This episode's mood.



A demon bird woman named Silene recognizes Akira as "Amon"; she wants to sex him. Things escalate into a fight. Just as Akira is about to defeat Silene, another demon named Kaim appears. He merges with her, and together they almost kill Akira until something petrifies them. I'm not entirely following what's going on, but holy shit is it entertaining. And I think I need the soundtrack.

5/5
Jan 9, 2018 1:41 AM

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awesome! this was the first time Devilman was defeated.
those 2 high level demons Seline & Kaim really did a beating to Akira...
looks like rapper boy and Mikiko was taken over by something as well...
4/5.
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Jan 9, 2018 3:05 AM

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damn Demons sure do love violence and sex only huh lol

lets see if Devilman will know love and not just lust in the future
Jan 9, 2018 1:42 PM

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what a chaotic episode that was pretty much based around Akira's sexual urges, also seems, not even seems but it is definite that Miko and that guy she was with are both half demon or whatever now.
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Jan 10, 2018 7:28 PM
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RediceRyan said:
Wish there was an explanation of what killed her. Wonder if the merger just failed or something.


the dude said he wanted Silene to feel the satisfaction of killing Devilman. Seeing as she died with the look of satisfaction on her face, we can conclude that she died the instant she felt the satisfaction; the instant the battle was "won"
Jan 10, 2018 7:32 PM
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The best episode so far. The moment where Devilman gets shocked by lightning and it's silent followed by the horn ramming through him and the intense music, that shit was cool.

Looks like Akira is a little on-edge. Will this fuck have satisfied him, or push him more toward the demon side? I would like to see Akira really struggling with Amon.

Definitely thought Silene was going to be the number 1 bad guy, but they introduced potential others this episode. The art style and animation continue to be neat if sparse, and there are some little things being done in this show that I've not really seen elsewhere.

It's too bad the rap guy with the dreads is an asshole now. Hoping to see more of the Rap Compadres. Also miko is hawwwwwt now too
Jan 10, 2018 7:34 PM

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The visuals were more than stunning in this episode, I finished the anime earlier today but this was surely one of the best episodes in my opinion.




also that Akira nut tho
Jan 11, 2018 9:09 PM

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So this episode covers the Silene fight. It went by pretty quickly, considering they spent an hour long OVA on this in the past, which I personally found to be better executed. This felt like more of a recap and Silene was portrayed as a lustful demon that just wanted Amon for his body, whereas the OVA made her seem more tragic as a prideful demon that was actually in love. Glad they kept the way she died intact though.

And is it just me, or is this series often too dark in particular scenes? Sometimes I could hardly make out what was happening in this fight.
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Jan 12, 2018 9:34 PM

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keiolerik said:
This anime contradict itself. For all, it attempts to humanize Akira and show us how compassionate he is I find it ironic that he literally rape a female to death. Is rape suppose to be appropriate just because she was a demon? The worst part about this is that the raping act could be what actually killed her in the end.That really fucked up. What was the team behind this anime thinking? Seriously.


That's the point of the "contradiction. the contradictions are there to establish the conflict of a devilman's nature, a being who possess both the destructive urges of a devil, and the heart of a man.
Akira wouldn't even lay a hand on an innocent girl, much less rape one. he realize "Silence" is nothing more than devil, so he chose to release his repressed urges on her, since she already came to him in the first place.

Also, Akira didn't rape Silence in the manga and yet she still died. so no, rape wasn't the cause of her death.
Jan 13, 2018 2:56 PM
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That's the point of the "contradiction. the contradictions are there to establish the conflict of a devilman's nature, a being who possess both the destructive urges of a devil, and the heart of a man.
Akira wouldn't even lay a hand on an innocent girl, much less rape one. he realize "Silence" is nothing more than devil, so he chose to release his repressed urges on her, since she already came to him in the first place.
Also, Akira didn't rape Silence in the manga and yet she still died. so no, rape wasn't the cause of her death.


Well, it nice to know that he didn't rape Silene in the original work.
Contradicting acts in order to show Aira inner conflict is definitively welcomed in an anime like this one. The problem for me is I would have liked to see Akira struggling to embrace these urges and ultimately controlling them. he already chopped off Silene limbs and she was dying. This was unnecessary and disgusting. The point of inner conflict is to see the character struggle with internal dilemmas but see them make the right choice in the end. A rapist is a rapist whether or not he rapes an enemy or an innocent.I can't sympathize with a rapist.
It's one moment of this anime among others which left disappointed and I couldn't really care about what happens to Akira at this point.
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Akira Green Goblin'ed the fuck outta Silene
Jan 14, 2018 6:57 AM
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Sylene, before the fusion, was a pretty demon, although a little w***e!!! kekeke
Jan 14, 2018 11:56 AM
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This is absolutely stunning stuff. Visuals, music, art...just love it.

Miko got demoned and as a result is faster and stronger (and sexier too). Will she become an antagonish for akira too? Let's wait and see.

Miki is lucky that Akira hasn't jumped her yet. Let's face it, if he 'finishes' with that power, he's bound to hurt someone.
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Jan 16, 2018 4:02 PM

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Its been awhile since I've watched a show this excellent and this mature.
Definitely keeps me wanting to see where things can go. 10/10
I've been here way too long...
Jan 18, 2018 6:46 AM

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Really nice fight.
I feel sad about Silene dying.
Jan 18, 2018 10:46 AM

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That anime haha , really good one but that transformers part was stupid imo
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Jan 19, 2018 9:38 AM

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That was a pretty awesome fight, Akira was literally chopping her limbs while f*cking her lmao.
Jan 19, 2018 5:09 PM

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Akira really fucked Silene^^

Fight was pretty awesome,rip Silene.

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Jan 21, 2018 3:57 AM

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Fuck. Silene looks so horrible because of the animation. It's so distracting. ;-;

And Miko became a Devilman and a few people, too.

Stop with the disgusting wet dreams. It's not appealing at all in this show. I have no problem with it, but what the fuck is this show trying to achieve? Jesus.

3/5.

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Jan 22, 2018 7:37 PM

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The action was pretty good (albeit short), but that rape really ruined the whole fight for me.
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Jan 24, 2018 12:44 PM

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Anime is amazing, but still protagonist raping villain, that feels just wrong
Jan 27, 2018 12:46 PM

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It's interesting to observe how Western audiences became hypersensitive to a theme of rape in recent years. This is particularly noticeable in contrast to gruesome deaths of innocent people throughout the series which doesn't seem to bother anyone. Not that I'm being judgemental, it's just fascinating how rapidly cultural environment can shape public opinions.
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Jan 28, 2018 9:23 PM
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SOOOO GOOD! I have so many questions that I didn't really consider before! Where did these demons come from? Why are they so organized? It'a like they came to the human realm with some purpose, ya know? How were Akira and Miko strong enough to subdue the demons that possessed them? Is Ryo simply doing this for research purposes?

But all of my questions pale in comparison to the one Akira raised at the end of the episode! And if that isn't love that I saw from Kaim towards Silene then I have no idea what love could possibly be.

This episode was cray! I'm glad Silene died with what she thought was a victory after how Akira fucked her up lol
Jan 29, 2018 4:38 PM
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What is the name of the ending song in the credits?
Feb 4, 2018 7:39 AM

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Akira has jizz that lasts for days to weeks. Look at that creamed cieling! lol

Miko is faster, tougher with eyebrows on fleek! She and her boyfriennd Kukun upgraded to demons.

Did Ryo give Akira money to find a prostitute to relieve himself? lol what an awesome bro.

Did the store owner suspect the rap group because they simply had TATTOOS!? I like Hie the most now. He's my favorite rapper or rather boombox. He's so cute.

Devilman fucked/raped Silene. Ooooohkay. That's fucked up in so many ways. This show tries a little too hard to be edgy in that sense. I don't mind the sex scenes and gore and violence because they're what makes this show awesome but the rapes, Jesus fucking Christ. First, Miko then Silene. I don't care if she's a villain.

Yes, I accept that rape can be what gets the plot moving in any story, even in anime and manga (and can be part of a character's backstory and part of their character development yadda yadda) and dont get me started on how I abhor and look down on rapists in real life and believe all rapists, both men and women, should fucking die. I also look down on rapist apologists and think they're all scum. I hate Akira for that. Why couldn't he just kill Silene in another way instead of doing that?
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Did the store owner suspect the rap group because they simply had TATTOOS!?

Tattoos are still pretty stigmatized in Japan. Plus the tattoo matched one from, I forget the news story, a serial killer or gang of killers?

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Yes, I accept that rape can be what gets the plot moving in any story, even in anime and manga (and can be part of a character's backstory and part of their character development yadda yadda) and dont get me started on how I abhor and look down on rapists in real life and believe all rapists, both men and women, should fucking die. I also look down on rapist apologists and think they're all scum. I hate Akira for that. Why couldn't he just kill Silene in another way instead of doing that?

I feel that it was a pivotal scene to show Ryo's decline to his demon side versus Kaim's loving self-sacrifice. You're right about it being edgy.
Feb 8, 2018 7:22 PM

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Godammit they keep doing these fights in the darkest of places during the darkest of times and I can't see shit. Did Akira fucked that girl in the air? Guess they didn't have to censor anything if people can't see it the first place. Anyway props to them for showing them pubes but considering this is an ONA it was probably easy.
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The fight/fuck between Akira and Silene was not what I was expecting (the fuck part, that is). Because this an ONA, I shouldn't expect it to have the same restrictions as Japanese TV.

Also, Miko is a Devilman now.
Feb 14, 2018 6:49 AM
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I though the female demon was going to be the main antagonist but i guessed wrong.
Feb 14, 2018 9:58 AM

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aside from..ahm ahm...the fight was good... I still did not comprehend hoe the she demon died like that
Feb 22, 2018 3:05 AM

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Everytime I rewatch the show (this is the fifth time I'm watching it, now, in the span of a month), the end to this episode feels more special. I just love how the series instantly transforms into a more morally gray story from this scene, it's amazing.
The start of the encounter between Akira and Sirene, is one of my favourite scenes. The nature of the scene and the music is brilliant, and exciting!
The actual fight is fun too, but I feel the lead up and the end to the fight are the best parts of the episode.
Of course, gotta love the timing to the music when Devilman gets impaled!
Mar 12, 2018 7:08 PM

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I was also not really too fond of the rape fight thing. The demons finding love was kind of cool. Akira trying to control his sexual urges was kind of interesting. It makes sense, but this show is sort of extra edgy.
Mar 18, 2018 10:38 AM

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I thought I would never see that again after End of Evangelion...I was wrong
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