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Nov 19, 2016 11:53 AM
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That back washing scene! Intense as hell!! Sasuga JoJo~
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Nov 19, 2016 12:39 PM

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Ragna92 said:
I feel a little bad for saying this but I felt no remorse for that couple that was killed by Kira. In fact it was good to see. The way he blew the guy up like nothing... damn Kira


lmao, you a sociopath, bruh
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Nov 19, 2016 1:58 PM

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Yay I finally caught up to the latest episode and just before the climax begins, I'm so exited.
I guess I can understand people wanting to watch the last 5 episodes in one go. Waiting a whole week just for a new episode is going to be difficult.
This was definitely my favorite episode so far. That bath scene was so tense awesomely creepy, it just shows how outstanding Kira is as a character and a villain.
Next episode will feature my favorite moment in part 4. It has been a long wait but it'll finally happen!!
Nov 19, 2016 3:40 PM

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anyone get a boner? hayato's flopping wiener is so cute.
Nov 19, 2016 5:18 PM
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Ok, so if anyone is wondering why they didn't censor Hayato's penis. In animated or drawn Japanese media, naked children will be drawn anatomically correct as a way to show their innocence. Basically it's a cultural thing that doesn't translate over well in western countries.
Nov 19, 2016 5:30 PM

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Volthoom said:
Ok, so if anyone is wondering why they didn't censor Hayato's penis. In animated or drawn Japanese media, naked children will be drawn anatomically correct as a way to show their innocence. Basically it's a cultural thing that doesn't translate over well in western countries.


but yuuki mikan who is 11-year-old from toloveru her naked body(nipples) is fking censored.
Nov 19, 2016 6:14 PM
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ButtSlapper said:
Volthoom said:
Ok, so if anyone is wondering why they didn't censor Hayato's penis. In animated or drawn Japanese media, naked children will be drawn anatomically correct as a way to show their innocence. Basically it's a cultural thing that doesn't translate over well in western countries.


but yuuki mikan who is 11-year-old from toloveru her naked body(nipples) is fking censored.


I have no idea what you're talking about, could you be a bit more informative?
Nov 19, 2016 7:35 PM
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ButtSlapper said:
Volthoom said:
Ok, so if anyone is wondering why they didn't censor Hayato's penis. In animated or drawn Japanese media, naked children will be drawn anatomically correct as a way to show their innocence. Basically it's a cultural thing that doesn't translate over well in western countries.


but yuuki mikan who is 11-year-old from toloveru her naked body(nipples) is fking censored.
...... Because To-Love-Ru is plain and simple based on erotism and all, which isn't the case for JoJo.

The sexual situation makes it not okay to show a naked children; that's plain simple.
There's also the fact that she looks more mature than her age, and she gets frequently sexualized.

TL;DR : To-Love-Ru is everything wrong with anime.
Nov 19, 2016 8:17 PM
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Cetais said:
ButtSlapper said:


but yuuki mikan who is 11-year-old from toloveru her naked body(nipples) is fking censored.
...... Because To-Love-Ru is plain and simple based on erotism and all, which isn't the case for JoJo.

The sexual situation makes it not okay to show a naked children; that's plain simple.
There's also the fact that she looks more mature than her age, and she gets frequently sexualized.

TL;DR : To-Love-Ru is everything wrong with anime.
You said everything I was just about to. It's all about the difference between sexual and non-sexual situations. And even though the bathroom scene is creepy, it isn't inherently sexual.
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Nov 19, 2016 8:20 PM
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Rohan is so awesome, always exciting to see him in action even in this episode where he initially struggled a bit before pulling off a crafty win.

So we got more more of Kira's story again, except this time..the kid in his family knows that it's not actually his real father. I just love how Kira didn't give a shit when he used his Stand to kill others this episode.



That back pull was brutal as fuck.
Nov 19, 2016 10:21 PM

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First of all, we should applaud for Rohan’s smart move.

Usually eps with Kira involved are 5/5 for sure and this one is no exception. But the pacing was a bit off to me when Kira killed the girl’s boyfriend. I spoiled myself of the Kira part in this ep a few weeks ago cuz I couldn’t resist the temptation of reading a little more. In the manga it all felt so quick that you could barely react. They could have made Kira quickly enter the room, pass by the guy and blow him up without even looking at him. Maybe DP focused a bit more on building up the tension, but pacing is their weakness sometimes which I found for the first time from the Nduul arc in Part 3. Besides, the scene where the girl accidentally hit Kira with her bag could have been better.

The bathroom scene was intense and kinda pedo at the same time. Anyway, Hayato is one brave, smart kid. Thumbs up for him.
Nov 20, 2016 5:20 AM

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Can these guys please stop drawing kid dicks, I find it extremely uncomfortable to watch.


Well well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
They going back to the 80/90s animes with that idea, back then people really didn't care about the Kid's weiner being exposed like that lol, Ah the author always never ceases to surprise me
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Nov 20, 2016 9:47 AM

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Rohan, you sir are a genius. That was probably the only possible way to deal with that pesky Stand, ne?

I'm liking Kira more and more, he's such a great villain.
Things aren't looking too good for him though. Let's see how he deals with this.

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Nov 20, 2016 1:12 PM

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This episode was absolutely everything. I literally don't know what I liked the most about it. Kira is definitely the villain of the year.

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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Nov 20, 2016 1:54 PM

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A really good episode
It was intense.
Kira is really threatening.
Nov 25, 2016 4:41 PM

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Dude, now I'm curious... As they've shown as you said they did, would they then... you know? If not, then don't put that sht in front of me, dammit! ... What the author did is do like an opposite of what we usually see, which would've been females. I'm pretty sure it's not on my mind only, but that he really made that part kind of sexual, to really screw up with the viewers. It reminded me of the Royal Guards' scene with Meruem in HxH.


Are you from the USA? Private parts of male children aren't considered sexual at all, neither here in Italy nor in Japan. Well, unless you are a pedo, I guess.
It's pretty common in manga/anime to show the pee pee of a male child, actually, as long as it's depicted in a very simple, non-detailed way. Even Dragon Ball has Goku nude, as a kid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHU8MhlrwoM

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Rehls said:
Dude, now I'm curious... As they've shown as you said they did, would they then... you know? If not, then don't put that sht in front of me, dammit! ... What the author did is do like an opposite of what we usually see, which would've been females. I'm pretty sure it's not on my mind only, but that he really made that part kind of sexual, to really screw up with the viewers. It reminded me of the Royal Guards' scene with Meruem in HxH.


Are you from the USA? Private parts of male children aren't considered sexual at all, neither here in Italy nor in Japan. Well, unless you are a pedo, I guess.
It's pretty common in manga/anime to show the pee pee of a male child, actually, as long as it's depicted in a very simple, non-detailed way. Even Dragon Ball has Goku nude, as a kid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHU8MhlrwoM



Yeah the first Dragon Ball, the old one. But in nowadays anime I don't see dicks of nude male children. Might be because I don't watch many Slice of Life anime? I suppose it'd be more common there? Hmm.

Aren't considered sexual, based on what? We could argue about this, but it'd be simple; I'd think that if the organ can be of use, then it should be considered sexual, and thus inappropriate to be shown. And can't it? I'm pretty sure they can feel stimulus, even at young age. I won't even research about this. But I remember that in an episode of Dr. House, he told a mother that her baby girl was touching herself, which is why she was acting funny... ( o_o) The young males' organs should be censored like the females', then.

And do you know if it's common for actual (non-drawn) male children to be shown nude in day shows, in Japan? Think it's anime only that gets the pass, eh. And common it should be really only in manga, I believe.
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ITT: everyone talks about dicks. lmao this whole thread.
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Rohan was so damn smart in this episode. Awesome plan.
Dec 9, 2016 4:26 PM
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Damn, love this anime; it has extensive battle strategies and has unexpected twists and turns. Rohan, you're awesome!
Dec 10, 2016 11:42 AM

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Fantastic episode, clever way to get rid of that stand
Dec 11, 2016 9:24 PM

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Still not sure why exactly these stands are helping Kira to begin with. Especially one that doesn't even listen to its user
Dec 25, 2016 8:11 PM

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Oh boy that ending was intense! That bitchy couple really deserved that :'D but damn that ending really was impressive, looking forward to see what will happen next with him!
Jan 1, 2017 6:31 PM

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Holy, the whole bath scene at the end was disturbing like wow. It looked like Kira was about to rape Hayato.

And Rohan is amazing as always. Got to love him. I wish he was the main character.
Jan 3, 2017 8:48 PM

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Why is Hayato so ripped? Although is sausage is small lol

Also bathroom scene reminded me of Donovan and Guts.

Kira blowing up that mf was super badass!
Jan 20, 2017 9:27 AM

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I'm impressed that the animation took the risk of showing a child's genitals. The time where japanese could broadcast (at any hour) such things without even thinking about it seems so far away nowadays (they became sadly like us, thanks to stupid associations).
On the other side, we have people here shocked by that? o_o Is the american mind so dominant in those questions on the Internet?


Anyway, a good episode where I understood that Hayato was the kind of video-maniac kid we could see in those 80s/early 90s US and japanese programs (I'm slow, yeah).

5/5

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Volthoom said:
Ok, so if anyone is wondering why they didn't censor Hayato's penis. In animated or drawn Japanese media, naked children will be drawn anatomically correct as a way to show their innocence.

I was under the impression that the tendency had been severely toned down in recent years (late 90s, 2000 maybe)
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That was very smart from Rohan, it's so nice eto see past episodes still having relevance all the way to the end.

That bath scene was so intense, for totally untypical reasons!
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Feb 20, 2017 4:14 AM

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Nice episode.

But why is it okay for Heaven's Door to look back to scribble on Cheap Trap and not get pulled into the undead world but Cheap Trap gets spirited away?

I would've much preferred if Heaven's Door didn't feel the need to do that, even if it was less GAR.
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Feb 27, 2017 6:16 AM

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Rohan is a genius. I wouldn't have thought about that alley.

Got made fun of for using a geeky nail clipper. Made the bitch clip his nails with the said clipper. Based Kira.

Starting to like Hayato cause he's clever. Though I still think he's a creep.
Mar 2, 2017 12:47 AM

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Rohan is a GENIUS! That stand got what it deserved. And damn, Kira getting outsmarted by a kid yet again lol.
Apr 30, 2017 9:19 PM

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Didn't expect Rohan to get rid of Cheap Trick like that, bravo good sir.

Now Kira's back to his usual shit but this time gets caught red handed.
Jun 17, 2017 4:29 AM

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I love (not really) how characters in this anime, that usually come up with some really smart and elaborate ideas, turn into complete dumb morons in the next episode for the sake of the plot.
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Jul 14, 2017 7:16 AM

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This episode really had a lot of brutal moments more than than the usual ones and is one of the best to me so far~ Rohan's back ripping had me saying S-H-I-T but Cheap Trick being dragged to hell was on another level of epic savagery. The little shit deserved it all but him begging was a bit pitiful, ne ne?

The couple had it coming to them but at least the dude got a quick death compared to his girlfriend who saw his death, cut the killer's nails, wear literal ear rings and quietly blow up ,_,

Hayato and Kira's bath scene was stressful and bizarre on so many levels. They're so ripped and that battle of survival with Kira's beautifully transitioning Killer Queen is a unconventional yet eye-catching one. Two people now know the truth about Kira, such intensity!








Oct 8, 2017 2:49 AM

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"I'll burn in hell" - I also LOVE how vindictive Rohan can be!

Kira re-affirms his monstrous nature, Jotaro finds the targets within a few minutes(?) and finally WHAT AN ENDING!
though... you know... they could have you know done with their clothes on. >_>

a little kid has just stale-mated Kira but knowing him it's only a matter of time until he breaks it. Run kid, RUN!
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Hayato will be a important piece to discover to "his father"!!! kekeke
Nov 6, 2017 11:14 AM

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That was simply brilliant of Rohan,didn't have that alley on the radar.

And Kira couldn't hold back his urge and was recorded how he killed that couple by his son.

The developement so far is top notch,really thrilling stuff.

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Dec 26, 2017 8:13 PM

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Great episode!! I love how Rohan still remembers that postage street. At least Kouichi believed Rohan sensei at the end.

Damn Kira couldn't take it anymore and just went slaughtered those couple.

Shame David Production is leaving out small details from the manga, but then again. You only have few episodes till the end so it's kinda understandable.

WTF complaining about a 2D kid's peepee. Japan's depiction of nudity is very different from a western mindset. This is common in older 2D Anime movies like Studio Ghibli ones.

It's not like DP drew it exactly in real life. It's more of a dot with no details. Smh

Kira is going to get exposed soon! I can't wait for the next one!!
Jan 10, 2018 10:40 AM

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It's the first time in my whole life I'm so touched by any anime... I hate Kira so much. Poor Hayato.

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May 16, 2018 12:34 PM

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I will never get tired of this series. love it ah!


Dec 19, 2018 11:53 PM

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finally the arc finishes and what a fabulous end
May 4, 2019 11:33 PM

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Damn, that was insanely brilliant for Rohan to make that parasitic stand look down the "don't-turn-around" ghost alley. I honestly thought it was the end for him there

And that bathroom scene was incredibly lewd... I'm shocked at how much it was a hentai but not.

"Where do you get off-"

"YOU'RE NOT GONNA LAY A FINGER ON ME"

Goddamn
May 10, 2019 5:42 AM

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Smart way to defeat your enemy, Rohan! :D I love his tendency to pull out a crafty win in situations that seem rather not possible me to pass easily.

Hayato recorded a lot of tapes with his dad's strange behaviour. He surely deserves "hero moment" title after what he told Kira in the bathroom.

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Damn, that was insanely brilliant for Rohan to make that parasitic stand look down the "don't-turn-around" ghost alley. I honestly thought it was the end for him there

I know right. I was also worried it was his final stand. Fortunately, it was not. We must give credit to Koichi as well. If he did not return, then getting rid of that Stand would be way more problematic for Rohan.
May 12, 2019 7:41 PM
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Damn, I'm a big fan of Rohan, he handled that stand well. Finally some actual screen-time on Kira, that was sick! The child did a good job though, psyched Kira.
Jun 3, 2019 9:00 AM
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What Rohan could have done: worn a backpack.

Ok, that would have been cheap and the stand probably doesn't work that way. Alternatively, he could have just used Heaven's Door on (almost) everyone he encounters and write "I cannot look at Rohan's back" or something. Again, too cheap so I see why it wasn't done.

Also, Rohan using Heaven't Door to write "going to Hell" was pretty savage.
Jun 29, 2019 3:43 AM

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Koichi goes to Rohan.
Kinoto shrunk.
lol at Rohan calling Josuke and Okuyasu shit stains.
lol at how Rohan is crossing the street.
All dem dogs and cats.
Koichi.
S-H-I-T! Understood.
Rohan showed his back.
The alleyway.
Dat note.
Reimi.
Kira has come for them.
Explosion.
Clip dem nails.
Dem earrings.
Minako is his new woman.
Hayato saw it.
Kira realizes that he didn't "lock" the door. I guess he doesn't watch The Seinfield Chronicles.
Goodbye Minako.
Hayato passed Jotaro. Unlike Koichi, Hayato didn't bump into his dick.
Of course Jotaro finds the place.
Kira joining Hayato in the bath.
LMAO They really showed Hayato's penis.
OH SHIT! THEY GOT HAYATO SPREAD EAGLE!
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Dat ending. Hayato's last stand.

Stop being sensitive westerners and accept Japanese's views on nudity.
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BATH TIME WITH DADDY KIRA

Feb 16, 2020 10:16 AM
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Ok Rohan strategy to beat Cheap Trick was just so clever and great, and damn that end ! Hayato is a mastermind too
Feb 22, 2020 5:23 PM
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Hayato's baby dick make me lol.


They didn't have enough ink to draw Kira's dick...
Mar 10, 2020 3:36 PM

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Hmmm they outsmarted that back stand lol, didn't think of that soul trick. I need to think more lolz. as for the ending bath scene... didn't think it would get into child pronz lolz.

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Mar 13, 2020 5:44 AM
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Rohan is a fucking genius, using the creepy, cursed alleyway to remove that annoying piece of shit standoff his back, all while expecting that thing to look back no matter the circumstances!

The 2 couples had it going for them until they ridicule him...
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Kishibe or Kira both were fantastically amazing.

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