Lancehot said: ayy makes me remember Meteor Garden AKA taht Taiwanese Hana Yori DangoI roll my eyes at the white knight type of guy. It's hardly specific to shoujo, though. The main shoujo cliches that grind my gears are the wrist grab & being pushed against the wall. There's a line between being assertive & being aggressive. |
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Lancehot said: I bet you want to save those poor damsels in distress from those dangerous, aggressive men.I roll my eyes at the white knight type of guy. It's hardly specific to shoujo, though. The main shoujo cliches that grind my gears are the wrist grab & being pushed against the wall. There's a line between being assertive & being aggressive. |
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Tenshi_Shura said: Don't read mainstream long shoujo manga? lol Plenty of medium length ones that are conclusive and aren't just arcs after arcs (Kaichou, Special A, Ouran, etc.)mayukachan said: That's where you went wrong. Do the same with Shounen and you'll end up hating it too. I prefer short shoujo mangas to longer ones because the mangaka usually drags longer than it deserves like Kaichou-wa Maid-sama. |
| If they've already selected a good-hearted alpha male as a character, then acting in such a way is natural. It is expected from a character with such personality. You can probably see it when you first see that character, it's not cringeworthy on its own when a character acts according to his personality later on. I would actually hate it when someone acts out of their character and being able to predict their actions based on their personality is actually something I enjoy. |
| If you generalize, you're wrong. |
| Nope quite contrary, the various tropes and quirks within shoujo are appealing to me. I like the emphasis on romance and it taps into that maiden's heart sensation. Actually I can't even think of many shoujo titles that utilize what OP has described. It's common for a guy to defend the girl, but I don't usually see physical violence for verbal abuse. |
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| Only if it's written by Minami Kanan |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Ehrm.. no |
| Nope, I love shoujo. Sailor Moon Crystal, Yona of the Dawn, and Snow White with the Red Hair are three of my recent favs. |
| the series? nope the cliche? yes |
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Comic_Sans said: Only if it's written by Minami Kanan I want to burn all her manga, especially Mitsu x Mitsu Drops |
Paella_ said: Lancehot said: ayy makes me remember Meteor Garden AKA taht Taiwanese Hana Yori DangoI roll my eyes at the white knight type of guy. It's hardly specific to shoujo, though. The main shoujo cliches that grind my gears are the wrist grab & being pushed against the wall. There's a line between being assertive & being aggressive. Daoming Ze punched the wall with so much force that he bled. You don't do that thing right in front of a girl you [secretly] love, like you're intentionally trying to fuck a girl's face. Ahaha, poor San Chai. |
| I like Akatsuki no Yona, but besides that I haven't seen/read any shoujos. |
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| So people don't think Im a shoujo hater and think shounen is supreme, fairy tail had a lot of the elements of an anime I would like, but man those namaka powerups made me cringe hard. Got to like episode 10 or less |
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| Not at all, but shounen does. |
mayukachan said: Yeah fuck that shitComic_Sans said: Only if it's written by Minami Kanan I want to burn all her manga, especially Mitsu x Mitsu Drops |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| I avoid it . |
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| Not really, but from the standpoint of a man when women write male characters (especially for shoujo) sometimes the results are amusing, baffling, or sometimes sexist. |
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| Nope, in fact shoujo is pretty much all I watch any more. I'm just a sucker for a good love story. I'm also not overly feminist, so the girl being weak and needing protection does not really bother me. There are Shoujo with super strong bad ass women though too such as my favorite, Peach Girl, or Nana, or Revolutionary Girl Utena. (Though they all have weak moments.) I mean as a woman myself, I want to know that it's "okay to be weak" sometimes - I also think men can be weak too - but that when you find your "soul mate" this person accepts your weaknesses. And this person compliments your weaknesses, and you compliment theirs. They have strengths and qualities you envy because you lack; and vice versa for them seeing those strengths in you and realizing their own weaknesses. Someone you can lay your heart and emotions on, a literal shoulder to cry on. Someone that "gently" pushes you to move forward and helps put things back into perspective when you're off the rails or down in the dumps. Because, just like a "good friend" that's what a good relationship should also look like. We're all weak sometimes. And that's OKAY. Women aren't the "weaker sex"; but depicting "chivalrous" men resonates with what the "majority" of women want in their ideal fantasy mate. I like the topic of romance, innocence, awkwardness, adolescence, youth, etc. - Yeah it's overdone somewhat, but so is all the onesie twosies me toosies shonen action brawler anime you know? Different strokes for different folks :D One of the best things about anime is how diverse it is compared to western animation. |
yellowboy906 said: tari tariPlease tell me what anime is that from your signature. That girl is adorable kawaii. |
mayukachan said: Lol, sure those characters are not strong by all means, but no personality is wrong. The female lead of Ghost Hunt would get mad sometimes, that alone proves that she has feelings.quotedaraven23 said: She's a damsel in distress with no personality. Gosick doesn't have a good main male or female either.What so bad with Ghost Hunt main female lead? I actually like their dynamic better than most shounen and romance themed series. They compliment each strengths and flaws. Its like reverse Gosick. The only bad thing about Ghost Hunt was they didn't answer the crucial answer; who is the guy that kept showing in Mai'dream. Gosick's male character, Kujou might be a little bit too centered around Victorique, but he is by no means bad, he's actually pretty good, having his own development episodes (going to army, backstory, always staying by Victorique, supporting her) and Victorique is not a bad female lead by all means, she alone carried the entire show for a lot of people who liked the series. Her back story and how she came to be is pretty good. I would go more into detail but I watched these series a long time ago, can't remember all the details. @OP Yes, I cringed at some of the more generic shoujo romance, usually unable to finish the series, but with your said scenario where a male character comes to the rescue of a female protagonist, sometimes I would find it kind of cool, not very often, but it puts a smile on my face sometimes. It's lovely how a guy would do all he could to protect the girl he loves. :3 |
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| Some can be very cringy, but others can be really good. |
| Shoujo is love. Shoujo is life. When it's overly cheesey, I just laugh at the cheese. XD Randoll_ said: No, but Shoujo fangirls make me cringe. How dare you. We are the best kind of people. :p |
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| Nothing makes me cringe. I mean WataMote is suppose to make me cringe but that was one of the most enjoyable animu i have seen in a while :p |
| I don't think i have seen any shoujo. |
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| No i love shoujo anime and manga. I've read and watched so much shoujo that i'm used to what most people will find cringe worthy. |
| A few episodes of Lovely Complex were quite cringeworthy tbh. |
| The only one that made me cringe was Ookami Shoujo. That shit was painful to watch. But in general I love me some shoujo tropes. Nice, confident, helpful, normal guys are just more likable and easier to identify with than a lot of the shounen males who are usually either perverted assholes with the minds of a 3 year old monkey, or pathetic losers, or both. The males are a big part as to why I prefer watching shoujo/josei romance over male-targeted romance. It's more fun to see an innocent romance between two nice, normal, maybe a bit awkward people develop than seeing some harem protagonist choose between a harem of cum dumpsters with both sides being reduced to their most base traits. I'm really trying to think right now but I don't remember a single shounen romance that I actually enjoyed for the romance. The only good ones are rom-coms where there basically is no actual romance, it's just used as a setting for hilarious comedy. School Rumble and Seto no Hanayome come to mind. Maybe Bokura wa Minna counts, and I'm probably forgetting some titles sine my list is so big but overall 'shounen' and 'romance' in combination make me very skeptical while shoujo romance is almost always a must watch for me. Even though, admittedly, I've gotten a bit tired of some of the tropes lately. Mainly the random rivals showing up. They're just rarely well executed. The tendency for drama in general can get a bit annoying in some cases but I'd still take a meh shoujo romance over a decent shounen romance. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Mayuka said: I cringe at the people who generalize an entire demographic. This basically. character limit meh |
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| Don't really care as long as it's good |
| "This little girl, who's not even half my size... taught me that tears can flow even from these silver eyes." - Teresa |
| No I liked Lovely Complex and Soredemo Sekai wa Utsukushii. I don't prejudge anime based solely on demographic target. |
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| If you ask me directly I'd tell you I really like shoujo per se, but then I stare at the most popular shoujo list in MAL and I come to the painful realization it has a lot of cringe-worthy stuff. That being said, the same applies to all demographics and genres, hence I can conclude that your hypothesis is definitely false. People avoiding shoujo is most of the time like people avoiding mecha. They've seen just a couple of those, or even none, and from that limited sample they already extrapolate it over the whole thing. |
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| Yes it does. For me I hate when the MC is getting bullied and he just takes it like a bitch and then begs for their friendship when he has to save the bully. |
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| Not necessarily. It depends on how "Shoujo" it is. Shoujo Kakumei Utena was a great watch, Kimi ni Todoke was cute, and Kaichou wa Maid-sama was overloaded with Moe goodness. I'm watching Peach Girl right now. I don't dislike it, but Goddamn that anime is Shoujo as fuck. |
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| No, why? I love shoujo series. I don't really care about the genere if anime is good.^^ |
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| not cringy just not for me i tried some shoujo and always end up dropping them |
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| Yes totally, well at least for the archetypes and the comedy which I usually found unfunny. (although I'm perfectly fine with Josei) |
| Yes, some japanese words make me cringe. |
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| I love shoujo and I'm a guy. only thing I hate about it is the art. |
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| I love shoujo... but my best friend hates it and laughs a lot at it. I tend not to be as big of fan of shonen and seinen series as time goes on and my best friend loves those things. However doesn't mean I still don't like an ocassional thing... I have just seen a lot of shonen. Shonen tend to get a ton of exposure over shoujo series. I am more likely to find a shoujo I never heard of that is good than a shonen. Kinda in this adventure phase feeling with Shoujo. I think we force each other to watch what we normally wouldn't. I think it promotes growth as an anime fan. |
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Lordwen said: If you ask me directly I'd tell you I really like shoujo per se, but then I stare at the most popular shoujo list in MAL and I come to the painful realization it has a lot of cringe-worthy stuff. FULL MOON BEING ON THERE REALLY MAKES MY DAY. ♥ ...............but Amnesia!? lol. |
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| Most shoujo animes don't appeal to me at all, probably because I'm a lesbian. I feel out of place when watching them. I can only think of 3 shoujo animes that I really liked. |
| The mc from orange (manga) annoys the shit out of me for being too indecisive. Plus she repeats the same thing a lot "if i did x would this be happening" "i wondsr if doing thing x changed the future." Other than that i'm liking bokura ga ita So far. Its not a bad genre but its not one i'm gonna go out of my way to watch |
| Shitty generic cliche filled shows make me cringe regardless of the demographic. It ain't a specific problem with shoujo |
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