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Aug 4, 2022 6:43 PM
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Inspired by: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2034884

Y'all think the west might actually become such a big customer for anime that all its culture will just ruin anime entirely??

We've seen stuff like High Guardian Spice get dogpilled, and no one seems to really care about cross-productions or whatever Netflix has. But if this came from Japan, is that a different story and something to be worried about?

What do you think?
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Aug 4, 2022 6:47 PM
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That'd be pretty fucking bad if you're a Japanese fan of Anime. Imagine you're trying to watch CSM but instead of Denji killing devils he's killing Liberals.
Aug 4, 2022 7:04 PM
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Not gunna happen. Unless you watch dubs, there's not going to be any changes that Japan doesn't do to themselves. Western culture isn't gunna try to "make anime great again" or some shit. People are worrying over nothing. It's not even like there's something inherently wrong with taking influence from other cultures, it's just a matter of how it's done. There's already anime out there that are clearly inspired by western culture, much like there's cartoons that pull from anime.

Quit being babies...
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Aug 4, 2022 7:05 PM
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japan is doing a fine job of ruining anime without any outside help thank you very much.
Aug 4, 2022 7:10 PM
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No. Japanese culture is very isolated and no outside force can change it other than a third bomb.
Aug 4, 2022 7:13 PM
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I will admit that there are some aspects in Japanese entertainment that might be bothersome for certain people. But at the same time I think American TV shows can sometimes be too political. Like for instance, I will admit that American TV can have women pull their own weight and have a variety of women of different sexualities and attitudes towards romance. But I sometimes feel like certain TV shows treat men as idiots as if they don't know that women can have the same responsibilities and opportunities as them. Or that not every woman needs a guy to be happy. And the messages in themselves can be pretty repetitive.
Aug 4, 2022 7:14 PM
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Depends, if by ruining means no more isekai harem, I'll probably support the cause lmao.
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Aug 4, 2022 7:18 PM
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I think most western weebs despise censorship, but the big woke companies influence is already taking effect on the industry. Woke censorship is despised by Japanese too so fansubbers can salvage the media for western fans. I do expect the west to try to influence anime, but influencing the whole industry is near impossible.
Aug 4, 2022 7:53 PM
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This is more some anime fans being paranoid than anything else.

If anything is gonna change anime then it's China.

Reminder that hentai in the US has less censorship than hentai in Japan.

With Crunchyroll being owned by Aniplex, it seems Japan has even more control on anime in the west than American companies themselves.
Not to mention that partnership with American companies in anime has not lead to censorship, just look at Harem in the Labyrinth, that show was co-produced by Crunchyroll and it's still nearly a hentai.
Aug 5, 2022 3:39 AM

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The West? Ruining anime? Anime is already ruined from the start.
Aug 5, 2022 3:43 AM

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China, the west, a new generation of talentless hacks, maybe all of them combined. Whatever happens, Theo1899 is prepared and has already invested into Albanian musical theater, the next big thing that will take the world by storm.
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Aug 5, 2022 3:47 AM

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NextUniverse said:

Y'all think the west might actually become such a big customer for anime that all its culture will just ruin anime entirely??


In 2020 anime revenue from international sources exceeded domestic revenue (which is collapsing). It is quite clear that in the future if anime makers want to survive they need to do what foreign markets ask them to do.
Aug 5, 2022 5:30 AM

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I don't see how is that even possible...
No western consumer is gonna convince the animators or directors to add SJW stuff in their shows. The only thing that can ruin anime is anime itself lol



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Aug 5, 2022 5:36 AM

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Even the timid suggestion of censoring anime and manga to suit the western market was met with a huge backlash, so I doubt the producers would go for it. At least in the near future.
Aug 5, 2022 5:49 AM

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MadanielFL said:
This is more some anime fans being paranoid than anything else.

If anything is gonna change anime then it's China.

Reminder that hentai in the US has less censorship than hentai in Japan.

With Crunchyroll being owned by Aniplex, it seems Japan has even more control on anime in the west than American companies themselves.
Not to mention that partnership with American companies in anime has not lead to censorship, just look at Harem in the Labyrinth, that show was co-produced by Crunchyroll and it's still nearly a hentai.

You said Crunchyroll two times in your post here is your bonus salary for shilling. In case you didn't notice American companies are already censoring the official releases of manga and anime and I'm not talking about the times when they edited water pistols into One Piece but very recently censoring a lot of nipples and pantyshots so normies don't complain.
Aug 5, 2022 5:50 AM

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Omar_Ushiromiya said:
No. Japanese culture is very isolated and no outside force can change it other than a third bomb.


Lol, Japanese culture is actually incredibly syncretistic. They've historically always incorporated outside elements into their own culture, including writing systems.
Aug 5, 2022 6:00 AM

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no because western companies care about making money first and everything else second.

the anime fandom is too deep in the isekai, and loli hole to get pulled out. if the west tries to change it, they won't make as much money, and while I know some higher ups love to have the moral high ground, at the end of the day, that money is all they care about.
Aug 5, 2022 6:19 AM

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Anime was almost ruined by big haired anime girls quite a few years ago AND now its almost ruined by escapist isekai garbage

It is gonna ruin itself in the near future. No need for outer influences
Aug 5, 2022 6:37 AM
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At somepoint we might see something happen.
But in that case I am sure smaller animators will replace them.
Aug 5, 2022 6:43 AM
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Japan is doing enough of that as it is. I doubt anyone can "ruin" anime more than what they're already doing with their awful industry practices, slaughtering of creativity and pandering to NEETakus.
Aug 5, 2022 6:49 AM
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more like SJWs than the West right? lol SJWs maybe protecting multiculturalism so thats a lot of political correctness aka censorship

i say ban multiculturalism and make one culture only lol
Aug 5, 2022 6:52 AM
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eulaisbae said:
The West? Ruining anime? Anime is already ruined from the start.


He said, while on an anime website, having seen more than 260 shows
Aug 5, 2022 6:54 AM
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Animaniaig said:
Japan is doing enough of that as it is. I doubt anyone can "ruin" anime more than what they're already doing with their awful industry practices, slaughtering of creativity and pandering to NEETakus.


yep the Animator Shortage Crisis alone makes that true
Aug 5, 2022 7:01 AM

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They are definitely trying.
Whatever woke touches, turns into shit.
We might have representation and diversity replacing good writing like in those woke shows.
Aug 5, 2022 7:03 AM

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FanofAction said:
Not gunna happen. Unless you watch dubs, there's not going to be any changes that Japan doesn't do to themselves. Western culture isn't gunna try to "make anime great again" or some shit. People are worrying over nothing. It's not even like there's something inherently wrong with taking influence from other cultures, it's just a matter of how it's done. There's already anime out there that are clearly inspired by western culture, much like there's cartoons that pull from anime.

Quit being babies...

I agree. It won't happen. If about Netflix - they only stream series, not doing it.
Aug 5, 2022 7:10 AM

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No, it won't. Don't worry, your questionable ecchis full of big, fat, voluptuous, round anime tiddies won't stop being produced. I mean, what else is there — a few censored lines in manga and anime when they are released in America? Censorship has been the norm in Western releases since forever, it is nothing new and it certainly hasn't ruined anime despite being done for so long.

The anime community simply loves being afraid of bogeymen. When it's not elitists, it's the west and its SJW and political correctness that apparently has been set to "ruin anime forever" for more than a decade now, and yet nothing has changed.

When will this secret agenda of ruining anime forever will finally happen? I really wanna know, the suspense is killing me. As of now all I see is a bunch of people whining everyday about something that's not real, a conspiracy that exists only in their heads.
Aug 5, 2022 7:18 AM

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we need a surfboard waifu, call it twenty two
Aug 5, 2022 7:45 AM

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ateks said:
MadanielFL said:
This is more some anime fans being paranoid than anything else.

If anything is gonna change anime then it's China.

Reminder that hentai in the US has less censorship than hentai in Japan.

With Crunchyroll being owned by Aniplex, it seems Japan has even more control on anime in the west than American companies themselves.
Not to mention that partnership with American companies in anime has not lead to censorship, just look at Harem in the Labyrinth, that show was co-produced by Crunchyroll and it's still nearly a hentai.

You said Crunchyroll two times in your post here is your bonus salary for shilling. In case you didn't notice American companies are already censoring the official releases of manga and anime and I'm not talking about the times when they edited water pistols into One Piece but very recently censoring a lot of nipples and pantyshots so normies don't complain.
You mean that Canadian manga publisher, yeah Canadians are famous for being sensitive and their government even more.
America is the land of Fakku, they have no problems bringing loli hentai completely uncensored to here.

But here is the thing in case you can't read, this forum is talking about ANIME, not manga, whatever bs Square Enix (who is Japanese) is doing with their manga app, has nothing to do with ANIME.
Aug 5, 2022 8:24 AM

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Nah Japan has already done a pretty good job at ruining anime by themselves
Who are you and why do you show your hostility towards a complete stranger whom you've not once spoken with before. Are you seriously asking to get blocked? Well, if that's what your intent is; to tempt me into throwing hands with someone as lowly and insignificant as you, then i may grant your wish provided you articulate yourself a bit better when trying to spite a person of my wavelength.
Aug 5, 2022 9:12 AM

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No, I don't think the western market for anime will ever grow as large as the eastern market.

MadanielFL said:
If anything is gonna change anime then it's China.

I can see that happening.
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Aug 5, 2022 12:25 PM

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This is like the one thing the west can't actually ruin, I don't know how anyone could even be stupid enough to be paranoid about that sort of thing.
Aug 5, 2022 4:06 PM

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I mean, on one hand, Japan is quite specific culture that overall doesn't care about input from other countries.

On the other hand, Playstation moved to California and got woke, and now it seems Square Enix is following the same path. So what could happen is some of the larger anime companies basically just changing their market from Japan to mainly west and following the current west customs.
You all need to watch Nami.

Aug 5, 2022 4:38 PM
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I am currently in Japan right now and I can say with confidence that they do not care a single bit about people from the west. Japan itself has an insanely large and loyal anime and manga following




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Aug 5, 2022 6:30 PM

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I don't think it will. I'm not Japanese, but I don't think Japanese anime fans would like to see fat, stinky, hairy legs girls with nose piercing and black lips.
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Aug 5, 2022 6:35 PM

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If anything, it will be the western streaming services which will "ruin" anime. For example, what Netflix is doing to JJBA/Stone Ocean at the moment.
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I have no opinion on this, something else caught my eye...





Maybe try sleeping?

Aug 6, 2022 2:55 PM

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Luckily, I've heard that a lot of people in the anime industry know that foreign fans just wants anime to do what it usually does. In theory, some out of touch executive could see that the foreign market is bringing a lot of money and force people to make something that "appeals" to the foreign audience, but Japan's nationalistic ideas might just counter that. So, I think that it's safe for now.
Aug 7, 2022 7:57 PM

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japan is doing a fine job of ruining anime without any outside help thank you very much.

This. xD

But also

If it brings a bigger audience meaning in theory more money than it's probably better? Japan in general is it's own beast though, I don't think anything "in the west" could affect the anime scene that significantly that it changes the landscape of anime as we know it. :p
Aug 7, 2022 11:13 PM

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The West is ruining anime with their no good taste. Your average North American currently prefers isekai, waifu bait or battle shounen so anime studios are catering to socially inept losers.

Your average otaku doesn't give a damn about sci-fi simply because of supply and demand. The days of studios coming up with so many original sci-fi anime are over.

Idiots on Funiroll are watching stupid anime and that's the crap we're getting so far.

Bee Train and Xebec are dead because of dweebs and their no good, shit taste in anime. Dead because dweebs don't care about original writing and weeaboos live in a hivemind. They disregard any anime trying to do introduce a new or mind-blowing kind of art.

Weeaboos nowadays are hardly nerds at all, just a bunch of posers pretending to be someone academically adept. They don't respect Japanese culture, higher education, art, talent or real entertainment. They just want the anime industry to be as inept, lazy, unoriginal or as miserable as they are.

The anime industry will get major dinero out of me when they stop pandering to idiots in their moms' basements making chump change compared to car parts dealers.

I'd like to see a weeaboo making big bucks out of salvaged Suzuki or luxury car parts, but that won't happen anytime soon because again, they are lazy. North America is getting their private property repossessed by authorities everyday and weeaboos alone can't even afford rent.

Lazy audience, lazy anime.
Aug 8, 2022 3:01 PM
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Yes the west, Kayne west will absolutely ruin anime
 

Aug 8, 2022 3:03 PM

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I don't think the west spends enough money on anime to ruin it. Most westerners who enjoy it probably don't spend a single cent.
Aug 8, 2022 3:23 PM
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To answer op's question, yes it will, it as already started ruining it, you just need to compare today's anime with I dunno anime from 12/15 years ago to see what I'm saying. And we better not even go way back 20/30+ years ago because the differences are abysmal, shows like Urusei Yatsura, Fist of the North Star, YuYu Hakusho, FLCL to name a few would never ever be made now a days.
Also in todays anime you can see the western wokeness in full force, small details here and there but they are there in plain sight.
Example in Goblin Slayer there is a scene in an episode (I forgot which episode) anyway in that particular episode we see a White male Knight that gets "saved" by a dark/brown elf woman. In The Hidden Dungeon Only I Can Enter the MC's father is a complete buffoon out of touch with the world, but the MC mother is strong independent wahmen yadda, yadda, yadda. Exactly what we see here in the west in, I don't know, everywhere, in media, tv shows, ads etc.
So yeah the west will ruin anime, it's already doing it right now.
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The paranoia of reactionary weebs never gets old. Yes, SJWs are ruining anime. SJWs are also the reason your toast burned this morning and they're the reason your shoe laces come untied. Be afraid! Tomorrow they might cast rays of sunshine into your room!
Aug 8, 2022 9:15 PM
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I don't think Japan will listen to western stuff unless domestic revenue keeps dropping.
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Orange_is_White said:
The paranoia of reactionary weebs never gets old. Yes, SJWs are ruining anime. SJWs are also the reason your toast burned this morning and they're the reason your shoe laces come untied. Be afraid! Tomorrow they might cast rays of sunshine into your room!


The facts are there in the open, SJW's are one of the most racist, cancerous, toxic, dangerous things in western world, they are single-handedly destroying western civilization/culture all in the name of a few woke buzz words that are fake af. 90% of this idiots would not survive a five school days back in the 80's.
They think they are on the right side of history, they are not. They have managed to infiltrate the anime community and their influence is already making a mark on current anime. Like I said just look how anime of today pale in comparison to the ones made just 10/12 years ago. Then come back here and tell me I am wrong. I've probably watched anime longer than you are alive and I clearly see it. The snowflakes are taking hold of anime and they'll ruin it just like they did comic books.
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Aug 8, 2022 10:23 PM

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well america can't help but admire how china controls the whole population by deciding what are the things that are productive for their citizens. Eventually they will have brainwashed mindset even though they can be more productive than a normal citizen. the west will tend to propagate that being weak is okay, being non binary is okay which is not okay. so a balance is needed.
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I am more worried about Japan destroying anime than the West. I am mind-boggled about how the anime industry is sitting with its hand in its ass, while they have fewer and fewer animators.
Aug 11, 2022 11:25 PM

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With the way crunchy roll is going with things they've already begun their crusade
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Aug 11, 2022 11:34 PM
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Have you heard of Netflix?
The west is already ruining anime for potential anime fans
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