Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka Episode 8 Discussion

EratiK said:
Ah, thanks, now I get it, in a way it's like a level within a level. But then again, if people reaching B-S are so rare (and is that for each level? or once you're high-leveled, can more people max out their stats?), why even bother to invent this system? Seems a like a convenient loophole to be exploited by the author. Not that I'm judging, I haven't read the LN after all.

Anyway so far I feel not knowing these things hasn't been a deterent to my enjoyment, so I agree with JC's way of doing things, but I'm glad I asked in case things get complicated in the future.

DenjaX said:
Wow! Thank you for this great explanation. It became more clear to me now. xDD It reminds me when I first played Skyrim, I was stuck on level one but I keep leveling up my skills to no end xDD

DAMMN If that was the case, Bell should have been patient enough to max the rank before promoting to next level. It is far better in the long run! xDD

I have questions though:
1. When Hestia wants to update Bell's stats but he left anyway, was she supposed to talk about her SS rank in agility?

2. You said that the stats in level 1 will be carried over as hidden parameter when you get to level 2. So basically Bell will go back to lowest rank when he leveled up. But if he keeps raising rank to S before leveling up to level 3, does that mean he will be better than the average level 4 adventurer?

3. You mentioned that adventurers gets stuck on their rank stats and will no longer raise further. Is that the reason they have to form parties to promote? Since higher level monsters are very difficult. Can they promote with the help of others?

Zefyris said:

1) When bell left, stats were already updated (if not for that, bell would have lost against the minautorus). Bell left before Hestia could talk to him about the results, like they usually do. As such, Bell completely ignores the fact that he breached SS.
2)You're forgetting one thing. While the stats gained in the previous level are carried over as hidden parameters, the level-up itself gives a huge boost in every stats by itself, which is not appearing in the parameters either. As such, no, I don't think that even by doing as you said, he would be stronger than a level 4. Especially since level 4 are a select few, I don't think you can call any of rank level 4 + "weak" or even "average".
3) yes, outside of being more in security as a group, it's the basic idea. Being several means that the experience gets shared, and if someone participate more than another he gets most of it, but it's better than getting nothing. That's why it's so long to level up for most peoples. And why small familia get stuck easily with only level 1.

LionsCrest said:
God dmn I'm loving this series.. Can someone explain the mind zero and rank s to me? Or will I figure out next episode?

ioriginal said:
Can someone explain how the stats works? A is the "worst" and S the best? And what does the numbers stand for? like what is max numbers to get another rank? Sorry for being a tard..

Paul said:


I think Mind Zero is just the state of having no mp left from spamming Firebolt. Rank S was explained in a previous post in a spoiler in the previous page.

CyanElekid said:
This felt sooooooooooo much like one of the SAO episodes..

Personally really enojyed watching it, even though it felt a bit stupid with how he almost collapses and then can fight that well, with a hole in his arm, afterwards.
Kind of wish they would give some more information about stats, or how strong the minotaurus is supposed to be, other than from a higher floor.

Tigersight said:

Edit: Higher quality version for people with good internet:

Thanks for the gif!!

Zefyris said:

No, the silverback was a strong level 1 monster, not a level 2, and he had the stats to fight it too, after his stats were updated.
That wasn't mentionned in the anime for a very good reason. They are rushing everything, and when I'm saying rush, the rush is quite crazy here. They reduced a 300 pages long LN into 2 episodes with one episode almost entirely dedicated to a single fight to boot. Which means that all the info we got were reduced into one episode lol. Add that to the fact that they are giving priority to useless scenes with hestia, choosing them over important dialogues and important explanations since the very beginning of this anime, and you don't need to wonder why you didn't get the memo.

I don't think the anime even mention more than vaguely why Ottarl was training the Minotaur lolz~
BTW I think that they're at least going to explain part of what I wrote in the next episode. Well, I hope they do.

Zefyris said:

I'll explain it then. Ranks are about the stats you gain during that level. They rise as you kill monster and depending of what happens. If you get hit a lot, your toughness rises, if you dodge a lot, agility rise, and so on.