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Jan 4, 2019 1:32 PM

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Daniel_Naumov said:

Great UFC bugs gif.


Glad you liked it :D
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Jan 4, 2019 1:39 PM

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lmao, what the fuck is this shit? some alien Echoes, his man-eating clone, some weird drug, a prodigy detective high schooler and boogiepop who's a split personality of a high schooler with warping powers

so far this show is simply amazingly confusing. i can only guess they will reveal the answers later... maybe?
Jan 4, 2019 1:42 PM
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I did not expect two episodes in the same day, but things took a dark turn, the Man eater makes it appearance and is supported by a student at the school. The Manticore as named by Saotome, a boy who seems to be interested in Manticore, who now has a female body
Nagi seems to be investigating the disappearances of the girls and apparently manages more information than the rest, thanks to Naoko and her encounter with Echoes, an alien who ran away.
For a moment I thought Nagi would break Kyoko's arm, but her suspicions were wrong.
Now we know that Manticore is a clone of Echoes and this one was captured and cloned by some secret organization or governmental research but it seems that things did not go well.
Manticore is responsible for the disappearances of the girls, apart from drugging them to get more humans to feed her, she murdered those who did not resist the effects of drugs.
What a pity that Manticore killed Naoko, now understand her disappearance in the previous episode, Saotome believes that the disappearance of Naoko went unnoticed, but he does not count on Nagi is investigating this case thanks to Naoko, so it is obviously that Saotome will be in her sights.

Now apart from having Boogiepop, an alien appears and his evil clone devours humans, I guess things will get darker and more confusing, but the answers will only be obtained in the following episodes, so we just have to wait.
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This anime is so weird
Jan 4, 2019 2:17 PM
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Muzashi said:
Daniel_Naumov said:

I do not feel any such that you proclaim of. Good.
good for you, guess I'm the only one here huh

You most certainly are not, but however bad this adaptation is, it still looks like a decent series for its supposed genre, with a mix of philosophy and a message, I believe.
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Jan 4, 2019 2:19 PM

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fight-or-flight said:
Having a bit of trouble telling some of the characters apart at the moment- it might just be because so many got introduced all at once, but I'm not sure the designs are distinct enough either. It took me a bit to realize the brown-haired guy helping the manticore was not the same brown-haired guy who talked to Boogiepop.

...I gotta learn some names too.


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Jan 4, 2019 2:34 PM
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I'm enjoying this a lot. A lot of pieces are there and we have to put them together ourselves. I like a challenge like that. I'm curious about the novel now and will tackle it when the show is over.

This show is going to be hated by half of MAL I reckon.
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Jan 4, 2019 2:35 PM

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I started watching it but I've never seen the original. I hope that doesn't matter. So far, I like it! I've been wanting some edgy gory shit like this for a while now.
Jan 4, 2019 2:40 PM

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I see, another POV. The episode is intersting but confusing.


Jan 4, 2019 2:46 PM

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This anime got me interested even tho im still confused , i gonna have watch both episodes again to understand it better
Jan 4, 2019 2:59 PM

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So confused that I had to rewatch both episodes and write down who the hell is who, their names, appearance, relations, role in the story, timeline and whether they died...
Thanks Madhouse for the realistic human faces, though: it goes beyond just changing hairstyle (95% of anime), so I can tell them apart in that mess.

Now it all makes sense and I like it, but man, is that really what they expected from viewers?

Jan 4, 2019 3:21 PM

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It's pretty straightforward to be honest and I really don't get why so many people got confused about events presented in first 2 episodes. Still surprisingly interesting and I'm definitely looking forward for more.

Soundtrack is really outstanding and this type of thing is what I call a good OST. Not generic emotional orchestra and trumpets.
Everyone is talking about OP, but to be honest I like ED song way more.
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Jan 4, 2019 3:33 PM

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rsc-pl said:
It's pretty straightforward to be honest and I really don't get why so many people got confused about events presented in first 2 episodes.


The story telling is non-chronological, which can get pretty confusing.
Jan 4, 2019 3:49 PM

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Muzashi said:
As a fan of the LN, I legitimately think that this adaptation is mediocre or maybe even worse. It cuts a lot of detail, like A LOT. For you who haven't read the novel you might feel this anime is rushed af, you're not wrong.
As you might've noticed, the story is told in a non linear fashion. Which is cool in the LN, but not in this adaptation. In the LN, you are presented with a story told from different character's perspective. Each adds pieces little by little to build a story, like a puzzle if you want to call it that way. These things exist in this anime, but ended up being a clusterfuck instead of an amazing storytelling technique rarely seen in anime these days.
Point being, this anime is rushed, poorly produced, and hard to follow for non LN reader. I swear the LN is much much better so go read that instead.


Oh, this makes sense. I thought the whole second episode was weird.

Jan 4, 2019 3:53 PM

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I was quite surprised to see two episodes released but I like that because it helped me to decide that I will keep watching this anime. Though to be fair, it had me intrigued with the first episode so I suppose I was already coming back anyway.

The anime is interesting so far though it was a bit confusing a few times though it seemed to even out afterwards so not a lot of issue there.
Jan 4, 2019 4:00 PM

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Good opening. And that's it.

Looks that they translated some aspects of the novel really poorly, and I don't see the appeal of having to pretty much wait until the end of every episode to get what is going on. Most of which comes in some form of lame exposition anyway.

Not really wanting to delve in how it looks, or ALIENS.
Jan 4, 2019 4:20 PM

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I felt this episode was a lot better than the first one. The MC from the first episode was extremely bland but everyone in this episode was a lot more interesting. Especially Nagi Kirima. It's gonna be pretty tragic when she finds out her friend is dead.
Jan 4, 2019 4:32 PM

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I felt so Clueless!

I love it!

Just a few moments in Ep2 when i went: "oho! this might be some filling in the blanks from Ep 1"
Hella confusing,
Jan 4, 2019 4:32 PM

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Roy_Cybertron said:
I think Boogiepop is being told in an out of order fashion like Baccano and just like the old Boogiepop series. But I think this kind of narrative is much more interesting and also adds plenty of intrigue to it.


then this will be a great show.
Jan 4, 2019 4:42 PM

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It is a non linear story
Honestly, I started watching the old one since this one was coming and man, if you think this is confusing, don't even try the old one lolololol

I'm digging it. So far, so good :D

Jan 4, 2019 4:47 PM

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Interesting and a little confusing, I feel like this is gonna be a Durarara/Bacanno style of storytelling. Can see why they went with a double episode to start it.
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Jan 4, 2019 5:11 PM

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This series definitely is a 180 from the original art wise, that's for sure. Didn't bother putting this on episode 1's thread since we got a double feature. The art seems pretty par for modern anime, like others have said the animation is kinda bad which is weird for Madhouse, the ost is fantastic so far and we get the episodic treatment like the original too.

Way too early to start piecing the story together if you haven't read the source material. My biggest complaint so far is that it lacks heavily in the atmosphere unlike the original series which that had a ludicrous amount of. Watching that almost felt like a Silent Hill adaptation.

So far I'd give it a 6.5/10
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Jan 4, 2019 5:45 PM

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This was better than the previous episode because it is starting to fit the story together. Everything is starting to take shape from the previous episode, how boogiepop came across that echoes and how the manticore is going to leave.

Better episode,
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Jan 4, 2019 6:59 PM

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It's a real shame the compression is absolutely TERRIBLE. 2:43 is outright horrible looking with the compression issues for dark scene. I noticed minor issues in brighter scenes before this but this is just bad. It even has a decent bitrate from what I can tell, on average, but they still did AWFUL on the dark scenes. Variable max not high enough? It's 2019. Streaming anime compression shouldn't be THIS bad. Even on brighter scenes, the black hair on a lot of characters has this same issue. This anime isn't the only one to have it this bad, but this is the worst I've seen in a few months.

Obviously screenshots may contain spoilers from this episode (Though, why reads these threads without watching first?)

https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/825b0703-059b-4b1e-ae29-e5cdda9dcd8d.png

https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/7122c3ca-9ac9-401c-bf2c-021c7ecc773d.png

https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/4436d2d9-7aa1-4fbf-8a77-558e7f1857dc.png (example of the same problem on hair)

I'm gonna have to watch this anime with my glasses off, sitting much further away than usual to enjoy this without being distracted by the crap quality encoding.

edit: Another one later in the episode in a scene that isn't very dark at all https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwHVfOQUcAEURRW.jpg:large

edit 2: I was gonna be done with that but then the WORST one yet. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwHaukpV4AA0v_V.jpg:large This is really unacceptable
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THAT ASIDE

Show itself is more interesting than I remember the original one being. Or maybe I just changed a lot over the last decade+. Great choice of seiyuu. Soundtrack is as amazing as I expected. both OP and ED are solid.I had no issues following the story at all. I don't really see any issue with that at all. The order of how things go is pretty obvious if you pay attention.
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Jan 4, 2019 7:09 PM
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Muzashi said:
As a fan of the LN, I legitimately think that this adaptation is mediocre or maybe even worse. It cuts a lot of detail, like A LOT. For you who haven't read the novel you might feel this anime is rushed af, you're not wrong.
As you might've noticed, the story is told in a non linear fashion. Which is cool in the LN, but not in this adaptation. In the LN, you are presented with a story told from different character's perspective. Each adds pieces little by little to build a story, like a puzzle if you want to call it that way. These things exist in this anime, but ended up being a clusterfuck instead of an amazing storytelling technique rarely seen in anime these days.
Point being, this anime is rushed, poorly produced, and hard to follow for non LN reader. I swear the LN is much much better so go read that instead.
Just because a lot of people are confused as hell, that doesn't mean that all of us weren't able to figure things out

All this shows is that a lot of us are simply not used to watching/reading stories that are portrayed in a non-linear fashion, and so unless its all spoofed to us, we won't get it unless we actually take the time out to pay attention and put the pieces together ourselves

Its quite easy to follow once you actually look back at things and a post on the second page did just that too...The pacing is fine
Jan 4, 2019 7:20 PM

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Tokoya said:
Muzashi said:
As a fan of the LN, I legitimately think that this adaptation is mediocre or maybe even worse. It cuts a lot of detail, like A LOT. For you who haven't read the novel you might feel this anime is rushed af, you're not wrong.
As you might've noticed, the story is told in a non linear fashion. Which is cool in the LN, but not in this adaptation. In the LN, you are presented with a story told from different character's perspective. Each adds pieces little by little to build a story, like a puzzle if you want to call it that way. These things exist in this anime, but ended up being a clusterfuck instead of an amazing storytelling technique rarely seen in anime these days.
Point being, this anime is rushed, poorly produced, and hard to follow for non LN reader. I swear the LN is much much better so go read that instead.
Just because a lot of people are confused as hell, that doesn't mean that all of us weren't able to figure things out

All this shows is that a lot of us are simply not used to watching/reading stories that are portrayed in a non-linear fashion, and so unless its all spoofed to us, we won't get it unless we actually take the time out to pay attention and put the pieces together ourselves

Its quite easy to follow once you actually look back at things and a post on the second page did just that too...The pacing is fine
I'm sure you'll be able to put the pieces together in the end. But what I mean by clusterfuck here is that because they skip a lot of details, some things just make less sense compared to the novel. I'm pretty sure you'll get what I mean if you read the first 2 chapters of the novel.
I didn't mean to say "haha bet you guys don't get what this anime trying to say bcs y'all idiots", but I'm just trying to say that this anime could have been better if they put the details here. I know for some reason they couldn't do that, maybe cost, or time, or something. But you know, I'm just a disappointed fan.
Jan 4, 2019 7:37 PM
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I love this adaptation so far, and as a fan of the light novels I can say this is a little fast paced and some details were cut out but is overall an amazing anime so far.

To those who are confused about this adaptation, it's much like steins;gate where it begins very confusing and makes sense in the end. You're not supposed to know anything in the novel either at the beginning, the only difference is that the anime reveals a ton of shit without context in episode 2 (episode 1 was adapted properly but with some anime original content interspliced). If they were adapting it properly, many would be complaining that it is too slow. It's not sunk, and I enjoyed it, I think Shingo just wanted to make a splash as much as possible before getting into the meat of what makes Boogiepop so great and unique. (It's a classic after all)

The series will make more sense as it progresses, give it a chance. The point of Boogiepop is it's an ensemble cast and a story told out of order with the core driving force being the intrigue behind the narrative and piecing together the mystery as it's presented to you.

9/10
Jan 4, 2019 8:01 PM

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i am kinda disappointed of how awful the animation was for a premier episodes, and that coming for madhouse studio
I think it"s on purpose :)
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Jan 4, 2019 8:04 PM

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Can we just agree that the OP is All levels of AMAZING?
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Jan 4, 2019 8:06 PM

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Jankora said:
Olha, eu vou admitir que nesses dois episódios eu entendi pouca coisa, foram poucas coisas mesmo. Eu vou continuar e vê se eu consigo entender. Fora isso à estreia estava boa, trilha sonora, animação, estava tudo bom. E tanto a opening quanto a ending são muito boas.
a história é contada de uma maneira não linear, é só prestar bastante atenção que as peças vão se encaixando aos poucos!!! :)
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Jan 4, 2019 8:26 PM

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Pretty interesting. A bit hard to follow, had to watch episode 2 a second time. I'm already in love with the non-linear narrative.

I just hate how the character design is bland and everyone looks the same. The biggest issue I have with understanding what is happening is not being able to tell the characters apart.

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Wow thank you, this clarified some things a lot for me
Jan 4, 2019 8:30 PM

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I never read the novels so im gonna only complain about animation geeez in the first episode, it sucks especially when the characters move, however, it got better now.

Looking forward for next eps thus i can talk about plotline and my thoughts on it
Jan 4, 2019 9:09 PM
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I officially have no idea who the main character is at this point...
Jan 4, 2019 9:11 PM

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somewhat reminds of kokkoku
was interesting watchh, like that there is more action tgis ep
Jan 4, 2019 9:21 PM
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I officially have no idea who the main character is at this point...

Everyone is the main character
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Jan 4, 2019 9:25 PM
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DevilYoungboy said:
I officially have no idea who the main character is at this point...

Everyone is the main character
Is it like a show that follows different characters stories? Or is it just that the main character changes randomly?
Jan 4, 2019 9:26 PM

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Muzashi said:
As a fan of the LN, I legitimately think that this adaptation is mediocre or maybe even worse. It cuts a lot of detail, like A LOT. For you who haven't read the novel you might feel this anime is rushed af, you're not wrong.
As you might've noticed, the story is told in a non linear fashion. Which is cool in the LN, but not in this adaptation. In the LN, you are presented with a story told from different character's perspective. Each adds pieces little by little to build a story, like a puzzle if you want to call it that way. These things exist in this anime, but ended up being a clusterfuck instead of an amazing storytelling technique rarely seen in anime these days.
Point being, this anime is rushed, poorly produced, and hard to follow for non LN reader. I swear the LN is much much better so go read that instead.

Couldn't agree more with this.


Also agree... So much is missing in this adaptation. The characters all feel so much more lifeless compared to their LN counterparts. Not only are the majority of their inner monologues cut, but these designs and character animations cannot do them justice. I get that a lot of the design changes is in the name of appearing more modern, but it just doesn't make sense to give Takeda and Saotome practically the same hairstyle. All characters hardly emote... Really thought this director would do a good job considering his past works, but these first 2 episodes have me extremely worried.
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Interesting. Easier to follow than Concrete Revolutio in terms of non-linear storytelling. It might be missing a lot details as LN readers have pointed out, but I don't feel like that's a problem so far. I like mysteries like this, so it's nice to just sit back and watch the plot unfold without knowing anything. The tone of the series as well as the faded color palette reminds me a bit of Shigofumi, which is a positive thing.

As for the visuals, apparently the project isn't at a good place right now with some key staff leaving...it's unfortunate, since a lot of people were looking forward to this new adaptation. But even with the unpolished art and sometimes choppy animation, the direction is still on point, as expected of Natsume Shingo.
Jan 4, 2019 9:37 PM

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I'm in doubt if I keep watching him.
That animation was the most disappointing thing I saw about madhouse.
And the story is something typical that I saw in many anime, I do not see the horror of this sincerely.
Jan 4, 2019 10:00 PM

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The plot thickens. I'm all for unique storytelling and non-linear timelines, but man were these two episodes hard to follow at times. The characters all looking so similar really doesn't help anything.
Jan 4, 2019 10:18 PM

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This seems pretty interesting...

Jan 4, 2019 10:39 PM

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Nice, another interesting episode.

I find the way they’re presenting the story a bit confusing but it’s an interesting way of doing so.

Nagi is a cool character. Not quite as cool as Touka for me but she’s up there. I wonder how long it’ll take her to figure everything out and if Touka will get involved. At least it seems that she’s found Echoes.

Of course the government is at fault for creating this man eating manticore. Hopefully they’ll be able to deal with it and that crazy guy before they manage to kill anyone else.
Jan 4, 2019 11:10 PM

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Wow, two episode premiere is pretty rare.
This episode had a lot of best girl, Nagi Kirima. Nagi is fire.

I never expected to like Manticore, but there you go, that's the power of looking like my type and being moe. I want to protect it, I want it to grow up happy and healthy.
Jan 4, 2019 11:37 PM

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Watching these first two episodes like...



Whilst I've encountered non-linear story telling before watching this felt awfully confusing and it doesn't really help that a lot of the characters look so similar. Not impressed with the animation either, the backgrounds were static and movement was choppy at times; not something I would have expected from Madhouse. The OST and OP are good though.

I'll keep watching for the time being, maybe the mystery will become clearer as time goes on.
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Jan 4, 2019 11:40 PM
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Wow, two episode premiere is pretty rare.
This episode had a lot of best girl, Nagi Kirima. Nagi is fire.

I never expected to like Manticore, but there you go, that's the power of looking like my type and being moe. I want to protect it, I want it to grow up happy and healthy.


Best girl for me is easily Touka Miyashita
Jan 4, 2019 11:42 PM
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wow the anime was too fast I'm so confused but I like it

I forgot all the names of the characters lol :(
Jan 4, 2019 11:51 PM
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this kind of story telling remind me a bit of durarara.
Jan 4, 2019 11:59 PM

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"Are you afraid of people from the facility?" Here's an important sentence for you newcomers to the franchise to remember.

Lol Nagi, You're getting yourself suspended on purpose again to play hero!

So they're bringing the "being tested from outer space" plot point into this early. I guess this series will be a lot easier to understand than the original...but I think that also kind of hurts the mystery aspect as well...

Another intriguing episode. This'll be a fun watch to refresh my memory.
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WOW rarely an anime encouraged me to rewatch previous episodes. Things in episode 1 make so much sense now. So now it is a puzzle anime where we have to piece unorganized events together. I LOVE it so far.



I hope the score will rise though.

I highly recommend rewatching first ep (event though just in bits and pieces).
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Seems like this episode and the last occurred at the same time. We see the guy with the girl they zombified at the start and everything connected once you think about it. It's becomes confusing if you think this episode is on a different timeline. OP and ED are solid. I don't like MYTH&ROID but this one's pretty good
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