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Feb 5, 2015 11:32 AM

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IntroverTurtle said:
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Well too much fanservice is just useless to the story
Any fanservice has no use in the story.
if it helps the story I find that useful, if someone getting aroused is part of the story seeing why he gets aroused is useful.
Feb 5, 2015 11:33 AM

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Milk_is_Special said:
IntroverTurtle said:
Any fanservice has no use in the story.
Everything is fanservice!
*can be

Killaclown said:
IntroverTurtle said:
Any fanservice has no use in the story.
if it helps the story I find that useful, if someone getting aroused is part of the story seeing why he gets aroused is useful.
If it helps the story then it isn't fanservice, what you're talking about is ecchi. Fanservice is anything not related to the story that is made to service the fans(basically extra stuff that is not needed but is added because it makes the fans happy). It can be in the form of ecchi scenes, fighting, comedy, etc.
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Feb 5, 2015 11:34 AM

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tsudecimo said:
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It can be good when its a "plot point" too, just in my experience it has to be comedy focused to be good (prison school Manga perfect example)

If it's a plot point, it's not fanservice.

Prison School has ecchi, it doesn't have fanservice.
hmm you have a point, but im sure there are a lot of scenes unneeded in School prison that may count as fanservice but it is indeed a part of the story usually
Feb 5, 2015 11:34 AM

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IntroverTurtle said:
Milk_is_Special said:
Everything is fanservice!
*can be
Sorry.. ;)
Feb 5, 2015 11:41 AM

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well how about characters that just have revealing clothes in general? doesn't add anything to the story and takes nothing away, seems like a plus to me if it doesn't get too distracting
Feb 5, 2015 11:42 AM

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Killaclown said:
well how about characters that just have revealing clothes in general? doesn't add anything to the story and takes nothing away, seems like a plus to me if it doesn't get too distracting
Lol, queen's Blade <.<
Feb 5, 2015 11:44 AM

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Killaclown said:
well how about characters that just have revealing clothes in general? doesn't add anything to the story and takes nothing away, seems like a plus to me if it doesn't get too distracting


dude are ya insane??!!!

i rate:
20% cleavage
30% giggly-ness and size
50% vagina shots
and whatever is left for all that plot and character shit ..
Feb 5, 2015 11:48 AM

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Zymf said:
Your thoughts?

Well, not all fan-service, but most of it objectives women or the characters, first off. Secondly, it's often not needed at all, ever. It literally serves no purpose to the plot, character relationships/development, etc.

There's no point in obsessive amounts of panty shots, boob close-ups or what have you. It often takes away from the substance of the anime, I think, personally.

Like, I don't know about any one else but I'm watching anime for the engaging stories and characters, not for every second of fucking screen time to have some barbaric scenario where we see panties or something.

But to each his own I suppose. I personally am not a into fan-service though, never ever have been.
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Feb 5, 2015 11:50 AM

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Fanservice is a just a cheap trick to increase the popularity of a certain anime or manga. Thank the otakus who lust over anime girls who don't exist in reality.
Feb 5, 2015 11:53 AM

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If it makes me laugh than its ok in my book but yeah I guess im more of a fan of ecchi than fanservice (though love gory fanservice).

WAD1992 said:
Killaclown said:
well how about characters that just have revealing clothes in general? doesn't add anything to the story and takes nothing away, seems like a plus to me if it doesn't get too distracting


dude are ya insane??!!!

i rate:
20% cleavage
30% giggly-ness and size
50% vagina shots
and whatever is left for all that plot and character shit ..
nice criteria lol
Feb 5, 2015 12:11 PM

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crestofhonesty said:
I personally am not a into fan-service though, never ever have been.

You didn't like Killua's abs? his extended fight with Youpi? romance tease in Chihyafuru?
Feb 5, 2015 1:53 PM

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nothing is wrong with it
Feb 5, 2015 8:51 PM

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Everything.
Feb 5, 2015 8:52 PM

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Nothing is wrong with it...
Feb 5, 2015 10:03 PM

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Because they ruin anime, and if you don't see anything wrong with it it's probably because you are a pervert.
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Feb 5, 2015 11:31 PM

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wukp said:
Because they ruin anime, and if you don't see anything wrong with it it's probably because you are a pervert.
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Feb 6, 2015 1:19 AM

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Not a thing.
Feb 6, 2015 3:32 AM

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fanservice is like seasoning... You can ruin something by over-seasoning it. And you don't need seasoning to make a meat tasty, but it's helpful.
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silversongwriter said:
fanservice is like seasoning... You can ruin something by over-seasoning it. And you don't need seasoning to make a meat tasty, but it's helpful.


This, exactly.
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silversongwriter said:
fanservice is like seasoning... You can ruin something by over-seasoning it. And you don't need seasoning to make a meat tasty, but it's helpful.


Deleted my response because fucking this ^ perfect explanation.
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Depends on what kind of fanservice, i considered intense manly fight and cute loli a fanservice too



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Jan 24, 2022 7:27 AM

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hey ladies and gentlemen im going to talk about fanservice why are there suddenly so many fanservice topics being created i dont really care about fanservice that much but the people who start making topics about that is at least younger than 13 i guess nowadays people cant handle seeing a women's chest the same people complaining have never been in the vicinity of a women and yes i know sometimes fanservice can go overboard but just grow the fuck up
Jan 24, 2022 7:44 AM

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Because it's on the current agenda. Previously it was violence, now fanservice and loli. I wonder if we'll ever get to denouncing anime like Initial D and movies like Fast & Furious since reckless driving hurts more people than any amount of "sexualization" can ever hope to.
Jan 24, 2022 7:47 AM

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People are finally realizing that sexualization of children is wrong ๐Ÿ—ฟ
Jan 24, 2022 7:47 AM
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Not as many people do as you think. It's just the ones who do never shut up about it.

Jan 24, 2022 7:50 AM

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I think it's a current topic because it appeared in two of the three most popular shows this season. Now I kinda wanna see AoT doing it as well to see MAL explode lol

"Everyone" is obviously not hating fanservice and a lot of replies in that thread are actually positive. I guess it's just Demon Slayer fans not expecting it in the new season. The My Dressup Darling people are a bit goofy though, I mean an anime about cosplaying with a gyaru female lead? I could see that coming from miles away.
Jan 24, 2022 7:58 AM

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weak people hate fanservice strong people love futa
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Jan 24, 2022 8:06 AM

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Far fewer people hate service than MAL threads suggest, see sales figures and popularity of seasonals for details. People just like BITCHING about it as a way to deal with the guilt they feel about liking it. Same effect as with pulp fiction (nobody reads) or McDonalds (where nobody eats).

Don't listen to the hypocrite posers and their "look at me, I hate soft porn!" threads. Just look at with what high level of detailed knowledge they discuss what they allegedly hate, and laugh.

Jan 24, 2022 8:08 AM
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I don't mind it that much, it's just when it's unnecessary lol or just to much of it.
but other than that it's some good stuff ha
Jan 24, 2022 8:09 AM

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cuz people need something to hate everytime.
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Jan 24, 2022 8:15 AM

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They're probably mad that megabased animated chads are getting more booba than them in real life.
Jan 24, 2022 8:19 AM

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inim said:
Far fewer people hate service than MAL threads suggest, see sales figures and popularity of seasonals for details. People just like BITCHING about it as a way to deal with the guilt they feel about liking it. Same effect as with pulp fiction (nobody reads) or McDonalds (where nobody eats).

Don't listen to the hypocrite posers and their "look at me, I hate soft porn!" threads. Just look at with what high level of detailed knowledge they discuss what they allegedly hate, and laugh.


i 100% agree with you people just always like to complain but its nothing new
Jan 24, 2022 8:24 AM

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I personally can watch an anime with a certain degree of fanservice, and I think there's a limit when fanservice can be too much. What pulled me away from really enjoying certain anime like fire force is its fanservice, I think there was too much unessesary fanservice going on in it. Like some people just really want to enjoy a shounen or even sci-fi anime without seeing half-naked women and children on the screen and feeling like a creep, there are so many different sites you can go to watch stuff like that if you needed to and I think sometimes they put so much fan service in some anime to keep horny twelve-year-olds to keep watching there show, I think the unecessary over sexualization of anime characters is because of this.

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Jan 24, 2022 8:25 AM

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Fans don't hate fanservice. What can happen is that one feels it was badly placed, uncalled for or an actual disservice instead.

Even if you're strictly referring to sexual content, it's more so that the prevalence of it is overwhelming and it detracts value from the anime or characters way too often. Believe it or not, not everyone wants to watch only wish fulfilling fantasy for sex addict men.

Taking the aforementioned example of Bisque Doll/Dressup Darling, the first episode of the anime makes it seem like it will take a more tame route that has a tad bit more tact and deals with more sentimental subjects, trying to bring a few messages about real world social matters. While the second episode devolves into a 24-minute long ecchi sequence (quite literally) that does next to nothing positive to the characters, only serving to please the audience's desires. It makes sense that it would throw off a lot of viewers.

If you wanna be simplistic and settle for "if it got them booba and pantsu, all is fine", then be my guest, but others will get burnt out or annoyed at that kind of stuff eventually.
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I just feel like these days people are too woke and sensitive about stuff. I get that there's some negative aspects about sex, and physical attraction can sometimes garner the wrong attention from certain people. But I don't think it's right for people to demonize others for being sexually expressive. Not to mention that negative opinions about that stuff are normally directed towards men. Which is ironically pretty sexist as much as people talk about misogyny and not associating images with genders.
Jan 24, 2022 8:27 AM

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its just a controversial topic this season alone with that Cosplay anime and that Akebi anime both are from CloverWorks
Jan 24, 2022 8:30 AM

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I don't really care much one way or the other, but generally, fan service is just dumb and lazy, and adds nothing. It's just weird and creepy, and i don't need it in my shows to enjoy them, unless it makes sense within the context, that's fine, but normally it doesn't, it's just there to be there, and to draw in the weirdos lol. Again i don't really care, that's just my opinion, if thats what you like, go for it lol.
Jan 24, 2022 8:39 AM

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There’s nothing wrong with fanservice.
You’re just misinterpreting what the threads are actually about…
The problem with fanservice is that it downgrades the quality of the plot in the show that it’s present in, there’s nothing wrong with perversion, the problem is that the plot has to encompass the situation of the fanservice and set up those situations. That directly means that the plot is interested in providing perverted pleasure instead of a meaningful plot, it’s a direct down grade of the writing when you have 2-3 chapters of a manga dedicated to just setting up a fanservice scene.
Jan 24, 2022 8:45 AM
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Tendo_GM said:
There’s nothing wrong with fanservice.
You’re just misinterpreting what the threads are actually about…
The problem with fanservice is that it downgrades the quality of the plot in the show that it’s present in, there’s nothing wrong with perversion, the problem is that the plot has to encompass the situation of the fanservice and set up those situations. That directly means that the plot is interested in providing perverted pleasure instead of a meaningful plot, it’s a direct down grade of the writing when you have 2-3 chapters of a manga dedicated to just setting up a fanservice scene.


That's actually the old points that were said about fanservice in regards to narration quality, and that were actually right.

But i think that the OP is referring to the new people that can't see just one scene of a girl in a bikini without going full mad Wojak about how it's intrisically wrong and other stuff.
Jan 24, 2022 8:53 AM

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Because it detracts from actual storytelling. I don’t mind a bit of fanservice, but sometimes it feels like anime’s entire purpose was to show a lot of 2d boobies . Nobody actually has a problem with mild fanservice, they have a problem with how damn much of it there is.

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the REAL problem with sexual fanservice is that they never take things far enough, soon enough, and it's not frequent enough. if every anime had it, you lot would either stop watching or stop talking about it.
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Jan 24, 2022 8:57 AM

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I personally can watch an anime with a certain degree of fanservice, and I think there's a limit when fanservice can be too much. What pulled me away from really enjoying certain anime like fire force is its fanservice, I think there was too much unessesary fanservice going on in it. Like some people just really want to enjoy a shounen or even sci-fi anime without seeing half-naked women and children on the screen and feeling like a creep, there are so many different sites you can go to watch stuff like that if you needed to and I think sometimes they put so much fan service in some anime to keep horny twelve-year-olds to keep watching there show, I think the unecessary over sexualization of anime characters is because of this.
Agree 100% couldn't finish that anime for that exact reason. The fanservice in Fire Force was too blatant and lazy. Fire fox girl kept suddenly loosing her pants or shirt and it got annoying. Its just sucks when your actually interesting in a plot for an anime and constantly see basic fan service in it. BTW there can be an appropriate time for fan service but most shows miss the mark. The only anime that balanced fan service and actual plot well, was Kill la Kill.
Jan 24, 2022 9:00 AM

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Because nowadays is more common to have people brain washed with moralistic ideals, usually rejecting everything related to sex. People also are socializing a lot less, and the idea of sex is often offensive to them. But I'd rather say is about being a moralistic douchebag.


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Jan 24, 2022 9:01 AM

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It's called vocal minority (ironic idiots, woke brainlets etc). Same thing is happening on twitter or resetera and it's not just about anime.
And fanservice is really toned down nowadays anyway, comparing to 90s and 00s.
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Jan 24, 2022 9:02 AM

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PurpleMagic said:
Astrollyth said:
I personally can watch an anime with a certain degree of fanservice, and I think there's a limit when fanservice can be too much. What pulled me away from really enjoying certain anime like fire force is its fanservice, I think there was too much unessesary fanservice going on in it. Like some people just really want to enjoy a shounen or even sci-fi anime without seeing half-naked women and children on the screen and feeling like a creep, there are so many different sites you can go to watch stuff like that if you needed to and I think sometimes they put so much fan service in some anime to keep horny twelve-year-olds to keep watching there show, I think the unecessary over sexualization of anime characters is because of this.
Agree 100% couldn't finish that anime for that exact reason. The fanservice in Fire Force was too blatant and lazy. Fire fox girl kept suddenly loosing her pants or shirt and it got annoying. Its just sucks when your actually interesting in a plot for an anime and constantly see basic fan service in it. BTW there can be an appropriate time for fan service but most shows miss the mark. The only anime that balanced fan service and actual plot well, was Kill la Kill.

Precisely it got annoying since she kept losing her clothes which kept pulling me away from the anime which had a got plot and everything and I agree that there can be an appropriate time for fan service it's just that most shows miss the mark as you said.

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Jan 24, 2022 9:02 AM

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Fanservice in the right context isn't a big deal. I've enjoyed some anime with clear fanservice. I just find it annoying when it's thrown in for no reason. Like Noelle's titty mermaid look in Black Clover. Yes she's got breasts and yes a mermaid look would show it off more and that was fine but why so bloated and nipple popping?

And as much as I love One Piece I don't like the big boobs on Nami and Robin (Robin especially) and EVERY frickin significant female character. (That isn't evil)

So yeah I hate it because the damn thing is everywhere.
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G1llette said:
Because it detracts from actual storytelling. I don’t mind a bit of fanservice, but sometimes it feels like anime’s entire purpose was to show a lot of 2d boobies . Nobody actually has a problem with mild fanservice, they have a problem with how damn much of it there is.
To be fair, many of the shows with random fan service haven't a story worth being told. In typical school rom-coms fan service is required filler to get 12 episodes done. Writing a "boobs in your face" gag is low effort, as is the "plot" or a beach episode. When it feels like the only purpose of a show is to rub 2D boobs into your face it's probably true. I don't watch that trash usually, except when it's up to eleven as in Prison School, Kiss x Sis, High School of the Dead etc. Which are pretty much erotica and no mere ecchi anymore. To avoid the big word "deconstructions".

And don't confuse shows with sexuality as a story element and theme with fan service. E.g. Scum's Wish hasn't any fan service in it.
inimJan 24, 2022 9:08 AM

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I hate fanservice. It is reason why I cannot watch anime with my parents. I don't even share it with my other relatives.

I think this reason is enough.
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because it's unnecessary for the most part. the fanservice episodes or scene were given more care than the one that actually fun or interesting part. it's not even entertaining if we're talking about pure lovey-dovey romcom show.
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