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Apr 13, 2018 7:23 PM

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@Chiibi I think all sexual subjects should be normalized in all media.
Apr 13, 2018 7:25 PM

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@IpreferEcchi: Of course someone whose username is yours would say something like that. :|



Apr 13, 2018 7:30 PM

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Less ecchi.
Less harem.
Less cgi used badly.
Less school settings.
Less shows where nothing happens.
Less shows without some kind of closure.
Less shows where the main conflict it's solved by an outside force or because magic and friendship can solve anything.
Apr 13, 2018 7:33 PM
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Chiibi said:
How can you not be grossed out by this? I mean, humans are biologically PROGRAMMED to find sex with family members disgusting? Why would you want to see it in entertainment?

Fetishism is honestly a topic so rooted in relativism in the sense that you can be told why someone might find something sexy but it's extremely unlikely that the sentiment will be shared or fully understood even if you grasp what the appeal is to someone, kind of like comedy except more of an extreme

Kind of moot to discuss it in a lot of cases I feel like, so I could sit here writing out why I like it and what leads me to finding it attractive if you really want to hear it, I don't mind doing so but just let me know, but ultimately it'll very, very likely convince you of nothing and you'll still find it gross, and honestly I think that's perfectly fine of you to feel that way, if you find something gross or unappealing then that's all there is to it

The issue I'm taking with you here lies with the "relegate it to hentai" or "remove it from anime" mindset, which is less about the fetish itself and more about principles on what things should be allowed to portray



Chiibi said:

Easily ignored? How can you when EVERY other romantic series wants to do an incest-related subplot!? IT'S EVERYWHERE.

It's really not though

I mean we could go down the list of seasonals from this season alone and the only one that features is prominently is Alice X Alice that I know of, let alone as a little bit of something on the side in a harem or something, which honestly most harems I can think of off of the top of my head don't have much in the way of incestuous subcontext

It really feels like you're strongly overstating the presence of it as an extreme reaction to your aversion to these things if I can be honest with you

Chiibi said:

Yeah, it's not just me.....it's a LARGE majority of the anime fandom community. Who said anything about "ripping them away"? I said keep them in hentai only, where they belong.

Pornography and the type of appeal that could be derived from a romcom about siblings is definitely not one in the same thing and relegating these things exclusively to hentai would be such a drastic change of how the product is functioning and projecting itself that it might as well still make it into a completely different product, so yes, you would still largely be ripping a product away instead of relegating it to one area where you deem it to be suitable

That aside you're opting to speak for an extremely broad group of people here and aren't substantiating it in any meaningful way past just being a claim

This happened last time I talked to you as well iirc, you kept on saying things like Trust me, everyone agrees with me and not much else to actually validate your position or claim about how widespread people who share your beliefs are

IpreferEcchi said:
@Chiibi I think all sexual subjects should be normalized in all media.

Agree tbh

People can still find things they dislike gross but it's honestly not nearly as big of a deal as people can make it out to be and we shouldn't shy away from things just because of people's sensitivities

From straight up objectification and things that are more lust driven to things that might be more informative, in an ideal society I think it'd all be fairly normalized in media
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Apr 13, 2018 7:33 PM

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Do you know what we need less of? Bad haircuts...
Apr 13, 2018 8:18 PM

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Weebs because they are cancer and put a bad image on the rest of us
Apr 13, 2018 8:45 PM

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IpreferEcchi said:
What do you think there needs to be less of?
Clearly, it needs less shows I don't like. [/snerk]

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I get off to haters, though.
I guess that counts as masochism?
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Apr 13, 2018 8:55 PM

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GlennMagusHarvey said:
IpreferEcchi said:
What do you think there needs to be less of?
Clearly, it needs less shows I don't like. [/snerk]

IpreferEcchi said:
I get off to haters, though.
I guess that counts as masochism?

No. Haters are uncomfortable with my love of sexual things. Getting off to their discomfort makes me a sadist.
Apr 13, 2018 9:06 PM

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IpreferEcchi said:
GlennMagusHarvey said:
Clearly, it needs less shows I don't like. [/snerk]

I guess that counts as masochism?

No. Haters are uncomfortable with my love of sexual things. Getting off to their discomfort makes me a sadist.
I guess a cat is fine that reasoning works too.
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Apr 13, 2018 10:40 PM

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BurningSpirit said:
OfLove111 said:
Anime needs fewer fans who complain about anime.
Well, it's actually usually a sign that anime is getting more attention. It's a good thing.

Sure, to an extent, criticism is a good thing, particularly when it's constructive.

But, the problem is, I've seen a lot of people nitpick, or complain about things that purely have to do with taste. Which, in my opinion, sours the entire thing, rather than sweetens it. It turns fans away from anime, it doesn't bring it to them. That is the problem.


now i will tell you what ive done for you
fifty thousand tears ive cried
maybe ill wake up for once
screaming deceiving and bleeding for you
and you still wont hear me going under
dont want your hand this time ill save myself
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Apr 13, 2018 10:50 PM

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Less lolis and more senpais
And also less half assed adaptations of LNs
Apr 13, 2018 10:51 PM
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-Less light novel adaptations
-Less adaptation with snobby, pseudo-philosophy characters (Classroom of the Elite)
-Less of the same generic art style plaguing 99% of anime every season
-Less closeups (seriously, these studios have 0 film making skills)
Apr 13, 2018 10:59 PM

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I would say it needs less shitty generic-looking character design.
Give me more iconic characters. Give me somebody who I can recognize and identify, NOT just some cookie cutter loli-chan without any defining features with a boring eye shape and a face that has a range of... three or four expressions. Screw that.

Also, less shows with incest and pedophilic undertones would be great.
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Apr 13, 2018 11:10 PM
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Please no more vampire fully clichéd shit, no more cheap shock value based series , no more shows that revolve around a single damn exhausted idea.
Apr 13, 2018 11:17 PM

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Anime fans complaining about "why this or that fandom like this or that specific anime I don't understand" everyone has different tastes, likes and dislikes I don't know what is so hard to understand about that.

In animes what I want less are
> Half-assed adaptations
> Pedophilic undertones
> abusive characters

Apr 14, 2018 12:59 AM

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RavenYami said:
shock value based series

Shock value based series are fun, though.
Apr 14, 2018 1:18 AM
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Less pedophilic and incestuous undertones would be a huge improvement.
Apr 14, 2018 1:29 AM

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Fewer people who cry about things changing anime
Apr 14, 2018 1:30 AM

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Zjed said:
Less pedophilic and incestuous undertones would be a huge improvement.

U say that while having a picture of made in abyss as your signature but yea I agree epecially the first one
Apr 14, 2018 1:35 AM
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xShinigami3125 said:
U say that while having a picture of made in abyss as your signature but yea I agree epecially the first one

Do understand that I would have liked the series a lot more if it didn't have any of those sexual undertones.
Apr 14, 2018 1:54 AM

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Zjed said:
xShinigami3125 said:
U say that while having a picture of made in abyss as your signature but yea I agree epecially the first one

Do understand that I would have liked the series a lot more if it didn't have any of those sexual undertones.

I understand and I would have watched it if not for that undertone
Apr 14, 2018 2:01 AM
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Girls who are in love with their best friend like Kuroko Shirai. They tend to be misandristic, obnoxious and unlikable, dropkicking the male character whenever he gets close to her best friend. Definitely would like to see less of those cunts.
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Apr 14, 2018 2:05 AM

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Less cliffhangers
Less anime with open endings
Apr 14, 2018 2:06 AM

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Some specific fandoms that plague the medium.

Also

Less:

- Yaoi undertones.
Apr 14, 2018 2:43 AM

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Less romances that don't go anywhere.
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Apr 14, 2018 2:47 AM

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Less knock-offs, more original ideas.

Apr 14, 2018 3:25 AM

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Inconsistent art direction, and particularly disruptive CGI.

I get it when the show has issues throughout and has to cut corners. It's still bad but understandable. But when it is apparently doing well, why try things that don't look good in the first place. I get the trouble of animating certain mundane things like cars or similar but please have some sort of overall picture and try to set a clear visual identity through your work. If you want to use strategic shots or even panning to save from the pain of moving an object it's still a better decision than creating a hybrid that doesn't belong in there aesthetically, looks plain ugly and moves awkwardly.

xShinigami3125 said:
Zjed said:

Do understand that I would have liked the series a lot more if it didn't have any of those sexual undertones.

I understand and I would have watched it if not for that undertone

I haven't read the manga but all I'm reading is that the anime was pretty toned down in that aspect compared to the original thing. It was perfectly bearable and only occasionally eyebrow-raising.
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Apr 14, 2018 3:36 AM

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jal90 said:
Inconsistent art direction, and particularly disruptive CGI.

I get it when the show has issues throughout and has to cut corners. It's still bad but understandable. But when it is apparently doing well, why try things that don't look good in the first place. I get the trouble of animating certain mundane things like cars or similar but please have some sort of overall picture and try to set a clear visual identity through your work. If you want to use strategic shots or even panning to save from the pain of moving an object it's still a better decision than creating a hybrid that doesn't belong in there aesthetically, looks plain ugly and moves awkwardly.

xShinigami3125 said:

I understand and I would have watched it if not for that undertone

I haven't read the manga but all I'm reading is that the anime was pretty toned down in that aspect compared to the original thing. It was perfectly bearable and only occasionally eyebrow-raising.

Yea lets just say one eye brow raising situation is enough to make the series unbearable for me I really have a problem with stuff like that
Apr 14, 2018 3:39 AM

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anime solely made for ads... rushed planing...
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Apr 14, 2018 4:05 AM
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Ecchi

Fanservice

Lolis

Oversexualzed Women

There i said it.

Apr 14, 2018 4:13 AM

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OfLove111 said:
Anime needs fewer fans who complain about anime.


This especially when most anime fans pirate anime and think they have the right to dictate the direction of anime.
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It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.

Totally agree!

Apr 14, 2018 4:27 AM

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Less productions that feel like they don't care and just use it as adds.

Less strict shedules for animating studios, they only make products look like shit.

Less Reliance on tropes like Miyazaki once said.

Less still and stiff animations.

Less Restrictions on Dubbing anime: Dubs always have to circumvent limitations like not being able to change mouth animations.

Less Cencorship (but wait is that not cencorship?).

Less ppl being allergic to changes.
Apr 14, 2018 4:31 AM

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Anime need less of guys making youtube videos like "How to (Not) Handle an OP Character - Ft. Isekai Smartphone" etc. (or just people spreading hate on any anime)

Apr 14, 2018 4:37 AM

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Crying fanboys and unfinished adaptations


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Apr 14, 2018 4:37 AM

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Less sexualised women

I mean I love ecchi but still not every female character needs to be sexualised

At least get the men in on it too
Apr 14, 2018 6:29 AM

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anything battle shounen
make love not war
Apr 14, 2018 7:53 AM

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EVERYTHING just stop making cheap chinese cartoon and start making sum good and quality hentai straight from the heath of japan or just some sad unemployed person trying to make a living out of cartoon porn.
Both fine i guess
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Apr 14, 2018 7:58 AM

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There should definitely be less anime each season and more attention should be given to the working conditions of the animators where they should feel satisfied.
Apr 14, 2018 8:03 AM

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:v stop making most of anime talking about God !
Apr 14, 2018 8:04 AM

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Deus ex machina, alien space bats, and make-shit-up-as-you-go writing
Apr 14, 2018 8:19 AM

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Less production by committee and more passion projects. For years I've been very "meh" about most of what's being aired each season because so much of it seems very samey and safe. At my age, I have seen so much of this stuff that a lot of it has become boring and predictable.

Less adaptations of guaranteed hits and more risk-taking over properties that might not have as wide appeal. There are a million-and-one awesome manga out there that venture off the beaten path and never get adapted. You never know what's going to be a breakout hit, either. There are interesting and engaging stories in the mangaverse that could make the jump to adaptation.

Less self-referentiality and ironic postmodern winks-and-nods to the audience and more sincerity. In the words of David Foster Wallace, postmodernity has run its course. Let it die.

Overall, less "playing it safe," and more risk taking. Even if a show bombs and is a complete disaster, if it fails because it was trying something and not playing it safe, it still has value. This is why, even though I think Mirai Nikki is WORSE than SAO, I think Mirai Nikki is better for the industry because it tried a few things that were interesting even if they failed.
Apr 14, 2018 9:00 AM

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Rape in yaoi and also bad LN adaptations


Apr 14, 2018 9:05 AM

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Nah, they better make more of everything then everyone is happy
Apr 14, 2018 9:28 AM

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Less bitchy fans and elitists that act entitled. Nobody cares that you hate x genre just go look at whatever anime you want to look at. Nobody cares Ashita no Joe or BnHA is supposedly what anime needs because your a fanboy of the series and can't admit to any mistakes or faults it has. Stop complaining about "oversexualized females" when you do the same with males and vice versa.
Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists.
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Apr 14, 2018 9:32 AM

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EcchiGodMamsterP said:
OfLove111 said:
Anime needs fewer fans who complain about anime.


this would indeed be a dream.. however unfortunately its complaining that tends to make things popular lol


anyway.. are you baiting people into saying

"ecchi"

"fanservice"

"lolis"

"oversexalized women"?


Completely agree with the both of you! You have my vote.
Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists.
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Ashita no Joe and Megalo box are disappointing anime.
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Best Naruto Op: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCNZxOBVWM&list=RDByCNZxOBVWM&index=1
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Apr 14, 2018 9:34 AM

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It's the anime community that needs less people like perverted IpreferEcchi or other weirdos that self-insert themselves whenever they can.
I'm watching anime since 2012. I also play games, sometimes.

Don't bother me if you want to 'become friends' or things like that.
It's tiresome. I know you just want to collect some meaningless numbers.
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Apr 14, 2018 9:37 AM

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Chiibi said:


so I don't see why we should rip them away from an audience that likes them just because you find it morally offensive or repulsive

Yeah, it's not just me.....it's a LARGE majority of the anime fandom community. Who said anything about "ripping them away"? I said keep them in hentai only, where they belong.


Nah, sales won't lie. People like incest anime.
Apr 14, 2018 9:38 AM
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Less sexist show ie: Yaoi, shoujo, Josei, Otome, reverse harem, shows

More fanservce harem, yuri, ecchi series
Apr 14, 2018 9:39 AM

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I think I could sooner tell you what I think it needs more of.


Quality horror adaptations. The fanbase for that really craves it.

Scifi + gay stuff. Definitely need more of that. Gays in space.
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ecchiharemgeek said:
Less sexist show ie: Yaoi, shoujo, Josei, Otome, reverse harem, shows

More fanservce harem, yuri, ecchi series


Basically, you don't like when girls have shit made for them.
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