| I mean both A-1 Pictures and Madhouse have produced good and bad anime, yet only A-1 Pictures gets shitted on (by Digibro's fans mostly) while Madhouse gets a pass even though they also made anime worse than SAO and Asterisk Wars. They act like the entire studio is bad even though they aren't much worse than the average studio. |
SuperRedDec 21, 2017 5:30 PM
| Kinda agree. Overlord is mediocre in every aspect from production value to animation to plot yet people hype it to death for whatever reason. (Well, don't lecture me how wrong I were, I bindged it a few months ago in one go so my memory is still fresh) It's like people shitting on SAO alot yet it's still one of the best selling franchises. Guess people do like shit but popular things despite their opinion shows otherwise. Everyone is a tsundere or what? |
Ventus_SDec 21, 2017 5:37 PM
| I dont hate A-1 Pictures, is a normal studio, also is good for making sequels |
| I don't watch Digibro. Like OP said both studios have produced good shows and bad Madhouse made one punch man, monster, death note, NGNL, etc. A1 made Magi, 7 Deadly Sins, Your Lie in April, Erased, Anohana, and Shinsekai Yori, etc |
iSpadeDec 21, 2017 5:40 PM
| Because Madhouse has created so many masterpieces that completely out weigh any garbage they may have produced. Meanwhile A-1 Pictures over here with SAO and Eromanga sensei on their record while not really having any notable anime that people care about. Ventus_S said: Kinda agree. Overlord is mediocre in every aspect from production value / animation/ plot yet people hype it to death for whatever reason. I absolutely hate Overlord, it is utter trash. But again, it means absolutely nothing because of the amount of masterpieces they have created. |
CHAMPIONOFDEATHDec 21, 2017 5:46 PM
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| Madhouse just has a better track record, there not as good as back in the 2000's but they still made good shit |
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| Madhouse is one of the ass company who never make sequel until the recent Overlord. Tbh there's nothing special in Overlord, it's your typical Isekai mmorpg type which filled with flashy skills,edgy stuff etc. Not that i dislike it but it is the fact. |
| I didn’t even know A-1 was shit on. My solution: don’t pay attention to studios b/c all of them put out out good and bad shows. |
| so you're telling me now there are haters for both studios? that's something new that I learned today. thanks OP i'm not the only one N30-R3TR0 said: I didn’t even know A-1 was shit on. My solution: don’t pay attention to studios b/c all of them put out out good and bad shows. *flies away* |
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| I agree. Madhouse is overrated and A1 is overly hated. At the end of the day, they’re both just anime studios. |
leezodne said: so you're telling me now there are haters for both studios? that's something new that I learned today. thanks OP i'm not the only one N30-R3TR0 said: I didn’t even know A-1 was shit on. My solution: don’t pay attention to studios b/c all of them put out out good and bad shows. *flies away* That's not the point I'm making, it's about the hypocrisy of certain people (coughDigibroandMBcough) |
| I don't care about present Madhouse, I am pretty sure Madhouse gets shit on for Mahouka and Mahou Sensou. I don't care for Overlord and OPM, you can even see them showcased in my rating system. But the old Madhouse, who made; Texhnolyze Monster Gyakkyou Burai Kaiji: Ultimate Survivor Death Note HunterXHunter? Hellsing Ultimate Hajime no Ippo Mousou Dairirin Perfect Blue Yojouhan Shinwa Taikei Gungrave Tokyo Godfathers Casshern Sins Sennen Joyuu Kaiba Touhai Densetsu Akagi: Yami ni Maiorita Tensai Boogiepop wa Warawanai: Boogiepop Phantom Nana Beck Takarajima and a lot more, though yes, of course, they did some bad things in between those but it's still better than The Madhouse who did; Highschool of the Dead No Game No Life Btoom! OPM Death Parade Mahou Sensou Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei Overlord Though, they did Photokano which is one of the shows that got me into harem ππππ And those who likes present Madhouse is still kinda blind with the hype of OPM, Overlord and such like Bones with Boku no Hero ¯\_(γ)_/¯ much nubs m8 |
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| Its probably because a1 made sword art online (an anime that gets bashed to oblivion). And also, some people like to jump on the bandwagon |
LeonhartAugustDec 21, 2017 5:58 PM
| because people dont actually know why they are shitting on A-1 they just do not realising new madhouse also is just a studio of freelancers that dont care about money or the quality of the anime they make after madhouse went broke around 2010-2011, they just hear digi and digi fans shit on A-1 for these reasons fuck if anyone care that madhouse is trying to make overlord the new SAO fuck if anyone hates overlord in the first place cause its muh subversion of isekai, even tho its rather everything wrong with isekai in general and is more trapped in the video game isekai than SAO fuck if half of the people who shit on A-1 pics know what they are talking about anyways |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
| Both hate and like the studios for the same reason, because they like or hate stuff they've made, regardless of how the production is actually handled. Oh I like this show that studio made so I like that studio. Oh this studio made a show I dislike so I dislike them. It's generally never anything more than that cause that's all people look at. |
| A-1 has some pretty fluke hits. Even if we go off score/popularity you look past the first 9-12 and the drop is significant. Where as the first page of Madhouse score equals out in its popularity and even iconic value even higher. We can even be nice and extend that past sequel/movies and just brand value. It speaks well for itself. I don't care if your A-1 fav is half way down the page either. And this is just being general because most of you don't even care about studio value any how. |
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| Shitting on A-1 Pictures is one of the few ways the anime community allows people to feel elitist without social repercussions. And as some peole have mentioned, Madhouse has that whole decade-long legacy that A-1 Pictures just doesn't. Madhouse titles have already stood the test of time while A-1 is too new for that to be the case in the same magnitude. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Last time I checked, A-1 was called one of the worst studios you could work for in japan.... |
Someone has already reminded me that even disagree with what I said in this post. I think that A-1 has made one good show and it's called Interviews with Monster Girls. Madhouse has made three good shows they are called One Punch Man, Parasyte The Maximum and Hunter X Hunter. Neither studio iis amazing but at least Mad House Has decent pacing and occasionally amazing animation. |
TapertrainDec 21, 2017 6:41 PM
| Hatedoms should go hate themselves. |
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Tapertrain said: No, because Madhouse has a big history that impacted the anime industry, creating amazing to masterpiece shows back in the golden age. OPM, Parasyte are okay, HxH is good, not amazing for me. Though, people get blinded nowadays and hatedoms are popular ¯\_(γ)_/¯I think that A-1 has made one good show and it's called Interviews with Monster Girls. Madhouse has made three good shows they are called One Punch Man, Parasyte The Maximum and Hunter X Hunter. Neither studio iis amazing but at least Mad House Has decent pacing and occasionally amazing animation. |
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| That statement implies Madhouse can do anything wrong. They can’t |
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| because Madhouse has been doing anime for much longer and has really great titles while A-1 has basically Shinsekai Yori and Space Brothers ¯\ _(γ )_/¯ |
Tapertrain said: I think that A-1 has made one good show and it's called Interviews with Monster Girls. Madhouse has made three good shows they are called One Punch Man, Parasyte The Maximum and Hunter X Hunter. Neither studio iis amazing but at least Mad House Has decent pacing and occasionally amazing animation. Madhouse made One Punch Man? Hmm... @7:45, though I'd suggest you just watch the entire thing. |
| Madhouse has infinite more classic than A-1. They recently started making mediocre stuff but in their prime, they could not be topped. A-1 has created no classics. |
LofnEdda said: Tapertrain said: No, because Madhouse has a big history that impacted the anime industry, creating amazing to masterpiece shows back in the golden age. OPM, Parasyte are okay, HxH is good, not amazing for me. Though, people get blinded nowadays and hatedoms are popular ¯_(γ)_/¯I think that A-1 has made one good show and it's called Interviews with Monster Girls. Madhouse has made three good shows they are called One Punch Man, Parasyte The Maximum and Hunter X Hunter. Neither studio iis amazing but at least Mad House Has decent pacing and occasionally amazing animation. LOL I just messed up! I just realized that there is actually like 10 shows and movies that I like from Mad House |
TapertrainDec 21, 2017 6:44 PM
SuperRed said: I mean both A-1 Pictures and Madhouse have produced good and bad anime, yet only A-1 Pictures gets shitted on (by Digibro's fans mostly) while Madhouse gets a pass even though they also made anime worse than SAO and Asterisk Wars. They act like the entire studio is bad even though they aren't much worse than the average studio. I want you to recommend one show from A-1 and tell me why it's good. |
| I think some of the A-1 hate came from rumors about how they make anime and how flawed their model for making one is. |
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Butchering a good game with a filler storyline https://myanimelist.net/anime/1726/Devil_May_Cry |
| A bit META to ask..? >Both are recyclable "Shiny" cash grabbing... studios came from a photoshop material.. |
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SuperRed said: Butchering a good game with a filler storyline https://myanimelist.net/anime/1726/Devil_May_Cry lol devil may cry never had a good story. I dont even see how it could work as anime. They did an amazing job with Gungrave in my humble opinion. |
| If you take a look at Digi, his mean score for A1 pictures is 3.85, which incidentally is also his worst studio by weighted score (221th btw). His mean score for Madhouse is 6.20, ranked 18th by weighted score. Not to say whether or not I agree with Digi's opinion on either studio, but he does seem to have quite a noticeable preference for Madhouse over A1 in general. Hence his vocal hatred of A1 and not for Madhouse. It just makes sense because he truly feels that way. His opinion then just rubs off on his fans, who go on hating on it. People are heavily influenced by what they watch after all. Everyone, do give this a try. Go to MALgraph, see where Madhouse and A1 Pictures stack up for you. Mine is: A1 Pictures mean score 5.66. Madhouse mean score 5.89. Pretty much similar, and it corresponds quite similarly to what I think of both studios. Madhouse produces stand out shows a little more often, but in general both make mostly tons of anime I'll forget the next season. |
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BurningSpirit said: Everyone, do give this a try. Go to MALgraph, see where Madhouse and A1 Pictures stack up for you. Sure. A-1 has 7.32, Madhouse has 7.29. Therefore I like A-1 slightly more than Madhouse, it seems. A-1 > Madhouse 4ever |
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BurningSpirit said: Everyone, do give this a try. Go to MALgraph, see where Madhouse and A1 Pictures stack up for you. 8.43 for madhouse and 4.86 for a1 LOL |
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| cuz madhouse hits the target more often than not unlike a1 |
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| It is because A-1 characters clearly all the look the same. Cough sarcasm. Also, Malgraph says I have a 5.61 for A-1 and a 5.49 for Madhouse. Pretty similar but A-1 is apparently slightly better.  |
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BurningSpirit said: A-1 Pictures Everyone, do give this a try. Go to MALgraph, see where Madhouse and A1 Pictures stack up for you. Titles watched: 32 Mean score: 6.44 Weighted score: 6.34 Madhouse Titles watched: 30 Mean score: 6.64 Weighted score: 6.42 |
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| Because A-1 Pictures hasn't produced anime as good as Madhouse, nor as many good anime. The best I've seen from them is Shinsekai Yori and it's just a 7 where the studio didn't even do that good of a job because the production looks messy. |
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| Madhouse has been around since the early 70s as far as I know of (Ace wo Nerae was around then). They've been around forever and are responsible for many successful entries. I can't name a single thing A-1 has ever done besides SAO without looking. After looking, I didnt see anything made before the year 2008. They're guppies in comparison. One has a legacy, the other doesn't. Throw in personal preference and the fact people are assholes and you got an answer. Madhouse has some good ol' old-school shit, A-1 doesn't have any. Therefore I don't give a shit about A-1. =^) |
BurningSpirit said: Everyone, do give this a try. Go to MALgraph, see where Madhouse and A1 Pictures stack up for you. Mine is: A1 Pictures mean score 5.66. Madhouse mean score 5.89. studio titles / counts ; hours Madhouse 28 ; 304.18h A-1 Pictures 33 ; 157.83h weighted scores #3 Madhouse 7.29 #41 A-1 Pictures 6.63 mean scores #20 Madhouse 7.35 #35 A-1 Pictures 6.62 welp from my list the difference isn't that big, but madhouse is better in terms of scores maybe the haters keep on hatin' because madhouse is better in general? also, with the comparison of 'value' of the shows clearly evident, the fanbase/haters would also differ to a certain degree, no? *edit: ah, looking at my rating I wonder how I gave such scores in the past... i usually give 5-7 nowadays unless I have fun watching the anime ;3 |
leezodneDec 21, 2017 9:34 PM
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CHAMPIONOFDEATH said: Because Madhouse has created so many masterpieces that completely out weigh any garbage they may have produced. Meanwhile A-1 Pictures over here with SAO and Eromanga sensei on their record while not really having any notable anime that people care about. Whoa. That is quite accurate. ..... |
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| Madhouse Meanscore: 4.97 That is, however, I haven't watched a lot from them (except the shittier ones, that is why I have been watching their older products) and shows like Tatami Galaxy, Monster, Texhnolyze, and Ippo are unrated as of now, I see this going up to a 6+ mean score sometime in the future. A-1 Picture Mean score: 3.66 ¯\_(γ)_/¯ |
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| Madhouse Watched: 25 Mean Score: 6.83 hrs: 145.08h weighted score: 6.79 A-1 Watched: 29 Mean Score: 5.81 hrs: 114.85 hrs. weighted score: 5.83 very huge gap :p To be fair though, I didn't watch any of A-1's big hit series like Space Brothers, Magi, Nanatsu, Ao no Exorcist, Big Windup, Shinsekai Yori yet so maybe that's why. |
| A-1 pictures get the hate because of the money they made through crap anime like SAO and their hate inducing anime like oreimo or eromanga. Rest of their money came from UtaPri and Idolm@ster franchises. They still produced some of the best anime ever like Uchuu Kyoudai, Gin no Saji, Ookiku, AnoHana and several fun anime like Working!!, Servant x Service, Blend S, Saekano etc. They have a line up of some shounen anime as well but they have adaptation issues (Ao no Ex and Magi for examples). A-1 is better when they stick with slice of life instead of action/fantasy/shounen. But most of their anime are forgettable. Madhouse on the other hand have produced much more interesting and/or actual quality anime one after the other. They have anime like Death Note, OPM, Chihayafuru, HxH, Death Parade, Black Lagoon, Hellsing Ultimate, Trigun, Monster, Nana, CCS, Ippo, Rainbow, Beck, Tatamy Galaxy, NGNL, Saiunkoku, Dennou Coil, Hanada. Some of their other anime like Btoom, Oda Nobuna, Ore monogatari, Parasyte, Mahouka, Chobits, Kamisama Inai, Nejimaki, Kobato etc. are still watchable (even many fans like them very much). So they also have a fair amount of decent shows. Not that they don't have crappy anime but they created way more anime worthy of 9s and 10s compared to A-1. At least that's evident through how non-Japanese fans think. A1, however, are much more successful studio and more popular amongst Japanese fans and critics which are notable through their commercial success and record in anime awards. |
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shanimebib said: A-1 pictures get the hate because of the money they made through crap anime like SAO and their hate inducing anime like oreimo or eromanga. Rest of their money came from UtaPri and Idolm@ster franchises. They still produced some of the best anime ever like Uchuu Kyoudai, Gin no Saji, Ookiku, AnoHana and several fun anime like Working!!, Servant x Service, Blend S, Saekano etc. They have a line up of some shounen anime as well but they have adaptation issues (Ao no Ex and Magi for examples). A-1 is better when they stick with slice of life instead of action/fantasy/shounen. But most of their anime are forgettable. But Magi season 2 was faithful to the manga. |
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