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| This was actually pretty good episode, shame whole series wasn't like this. I mean, I would like this series a lot more if whole things acted like the road movie around the Mars with both girls meeting people and places, facing the problems of singers' life and gaining the popularity on the go. |
| Floras sogs bring me back when me and my dad would ride around italy for hours and hours when moving and he’d always put these type of songs on,its really nostalgic for some reason. The band in the back was SO good too- I hope that they let the drum,bass and guitar in their songs more bc it fucking slaps |
"those who aren't able to find a more miserable person than themselves turn to the internet and call others losers,even though they've never met"- Satou from nhk |
Mich666 said: This was actually pretty good episode, shame whole series wasn't like this. I mean, I would like this series a lot more if whole things acted like the road movie around the Mars with both girls meeting people and places, facing the problems of singers' life and gaining the popularity on the go. Isnt that like.....whats happening anyways? They are going places,different venues,meeting different producers and people,& im pretty sure the “issues with being a singer/celebrity” will come too. |
"those who aren't able to find a more miserable person than themselves turn to the internet and call others losers,even though they've never met"- Satou from nhk |
tookawaiii said: Isnt that like.....whats happening anyways? They are going places,different venues,meeting different producers and people,& im pretty sure the “issues with being a singer/celebrity” will come too. My idea was more like them going on tour with their own band with episodic stories of people they met while also facing troubles and drama in their own group. This anime is bit random in this regard if you know what I mean and Mars Brightest arc was just awful waste of time. |
| That last song MMMMHHHHHPPPPPPP....Perfection. |
| decent episode actually liked the songs this time around, depending on how you view this and the last episode "not much happened" but it is nice to show how other artist were effected by the industry only thing is why are we only hearing about her now despite Carole treating her as such a big role model( unless i missed it early on) i just find it a bit hard to care for these one note episodes based around people we've just heard of but maybe this time flora will stick around. also great another stalker mini arc for our girl Angela thanks river band guys you were good mvps that hardly anyone mentioned lol |
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| well....this episode made me anticipate for volume 2 of the song collections. Flora's song and the cover song were bangers. damn, like a few others here pointed it out, i really hope they dont make Flora be another Whitney Houston situation (if they bring her back) bc that was the first thing on my mind as well |
| I didn't feel for Flora, I think she deserved what was done to her after she betrayed Gus like that! The worst thing she was too prideful to apologize to him, making her the biggest shitbag I've ever laid eyes on. But i liked that Gus became a gentleman in the whole situation, trying to lift up her spirits by making her sing again. Her song was beautiful, Carole and Tues did a phenomenal job on it! |
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| Another beautiful, moving episode... So good to see Flora finding her voice again, alongside Carole & Tuesday’s cover of her old song, in the end. To tell the truth, I was almost reminded of Whitney Houston, by her. |
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| easily the best episode in the series so far...wow! FuMomo-kun said: The songs are good, but I never felt any emotion coming from them. I think I finally kind of realised why. The songs and voices are done by different people. I feel like they should've just used Japanese songs, and let the voice-actors sing them. The voice actors are probably more connected to the characters than the random singers they used, so they should be able to sing the songs with more emotion. fully agreed 100% they should have gotten seiyuu like saori or minori chihara who actually sing so they can do the songs too. they literally had aoi shouta as that minor character and he didn't get to sing. |
lihle808 said: I didn't feel for Flora, I think she deserved what was done to her after she betrayed Gus like that! The worst thing she was too prideful to apologize to him, making her the biggest shitbag I've ever laid eyes on. She deserved what happened to her? Really? She jumped at the opportunity to make it big as a singer, which let's be honest most of us would do if our dream was being dangled right in front of our eyes, and she got fucked by the music industry cause it's hella destructive and fucks everyone up with how toxic it can be. I think you're wrong in saying she was too prideful. I think it was that she was too ashamed of herself to apologize. She made a mistake..but she redeemed herself in the end, did she not? Why are you so quick to call her a shitbag when we see how deeply she regretted her actions in the end? I'm sure you've made your fair share of mistakes in your lifetime. Is it justified then if I call you a shitbag even after you've made up for what you've done and tried to become a better person in the end? Maybe it was shitty of her to do, but to say she's the biggest piece of shit is just dumb - she made a mistake, recognized she did, and tried to make up for it; it's part of the path of growing and becoming a better person. |
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| Quite a touching episode. Glad C&T could inspire Flora to sing again - poor girl didn't deserve the shit she got pretty sure I know who's Angela's stalker is Seems like next week we'll get The Return of Ertegun |
KuroYume-96Aug 9, 2019 1:54 AM
| Flora...clearly the Whitney Houston tribute of this series. That was a beautiful episode. It definitely shows how the music industry can destroy you especially when you fall in with the wrong people. |
| Don't believe the hype. |
| I wish I could find things in life has fast as Carol and Tuesday find a band |
Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso is shit |
Luroon said: I wish I could find things in life has fast as Carol and Tuesday find a band I feel you buddy - same here |
| Flora reminds me too much of Whitney Houston. Some other thoughts, I really love the title of this episode as it ties back into the show. I also like how they are making Angela a worthy opponent but also someone to clear about. I do think they shouldn't make super obvious. I found that to be a little weak in comparison to when you saw Tao making an AI of her a few eps ago. Great to see Gus get more backstory and nice work on flushing out Flora. I wonder if she'll be sticking around. I do hope they work on Carole and Tuesday finding a solid backing band. Outside of that this episode had a lot of more story going on than the last one and it works to its advantage. |
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| Aaaaah, they refrained from using pronouns when referring to Desmond :') I'm emotional. Not a big fan of this episode. I want the show to find a flow again (like in the Mars' brightest arc) instead of all those 1-story episodes. The last one was beautiful, and this one was cool too, but... |
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| Well finally they showed the person who inspired Carole to become a singer.Thou her songs were lit but her story was meh. She turned out to be one of those ungrateful girls who just run after success and forget the people that helped her bringing to the place she is now. |
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| Well most of this was a nice feel good episode. Creepy stalkers are not fun. Possible redemption for Flora could happen. Nice back up band they managed to get. |
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| This episode was great! |
| Damn has C&T has been hitting a lot of the right notes these last few episodes! I'm loving this second half of the show much, much more. These single ep stories have been great (I feel like Chief Director Shinichiro has more of a hand in these--being a big thing of his), I'm loving how characters are being fleshed out, and the direction the story seems to be taking also has me very hooked (just how will Desmond's story reflect in the final arc? And where is the anti-immigrant movement leading and just what will be C&T's role in it?? Could they get seperated too perhaps?) The show definitely feels like it's kicking into gear and getting serious about itself now. And that opening! Damn is it growing on me a lot--it might just be even more positive and upbeat than the first. And that ED I definitely prefer, even if it's from Tao's fake AI Angela. Oh and damn are C&T's songs so much better now that they're enlisting the help of other/backup(??) performers. The tracks were definitely getting limited by just that piano and guitar (which themselves were restricted by needing such recognisble/consistent style and fitting tone). These last three tracks have all been so great. |
ZaugrAug 10, 2019 3:16 AM
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| Am I the only one that wants Angela's stalker to be Cybelle or an unknown? Anyone but Aaron or Katy :( I enjoyed this episode. In episode 12, Gus spoke about never making amends and reaching out to someone because he was scared I wondered who it was. We finally met, Flora, the one person regrets letting go. Her story showed why Gus turned down the music contract and why he didn't let Carole and Tuesday into the meeting. It shows how toxic the music industry can be. Give You The World made it into my top 3 C&T soundtrack songs. I hope we get more Flora. It's interesting that they used an Aretha Franklin song for the title, but the character, Flora, leans heavy into Whitney Houston. Whitney Houston had an amazing voice that could touch souls. KuroYume-96 said: Luroon said: I wish I could find things in life has fast as Carol and Tuesday find a band I feel you buddy - same here Me too ;-) |
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Zaugr said: I actually agree about the opening really growing. It was such a jarring transition from the first opening (easily one of the best I have seen) that I was disappointed—with the song specifically. Now that I have had more time with it I can pick out a lot more of what is happening but its production is to blame as it is muddy in those spots I had issues with.And that opening! Damn is it growing on me a lot--it might just be even more positive and upbeat than the first. And that ED I definitely prefer, even if it's from Tao's fake AI Angela. The ending song is definitely better than the first ending. |
| Angela is aware of possible clues to stalker, with growing threats of destroying her apartment. That guy doesn't feel right. C&T finds random background band to join them, luckily but rarely in reality; and comes across Ms. Flora, a former renowned singer discovered by Gus and inspired Carole in music. Can we have a brief moment of appreciation for the connections Watanabe deployed here? Episodes 15-16 feature 2 seniors in the music industry, Desmond (CV: Kouichi Yamaderashi) and Flora (CV: Megumi Hayashibara), who share the same CVs as leads (Spike Spiegel, Faye Valentine) of Cowboy Bebop (Japanese), i.e. Watanabe's legendary piece of art in 1998. |
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| Damn it, I knew that Aaron dude was another creep... man, I just hope things don't become too messed up for Angela regarding the stalker issue. Well, despite all the coincidences that happened in one single episode, I have to say I really liked it in the end. Flora as a character was a pretty interesting one if I'm honest. So she was the person Gus was referring to in ep. 12 during that talk with Carole, uh? Nice foreshadowing. That said, I really hope she sticks around since her relationship with Gus was and is quite endearing to watch. |
SouthRzVaAug 10, 2019 1:58 PM
| Roddy informed Carole & Tuesday that they are in number fifty-three, Gus told them that he got an space in an event named South by Southwest, Carole and Tuesday got a guitarist, a bass player and a drummer. Angela encountered a joke/threat arriving home (could be Aaron). Carole, Tuesday and Gus encountered with a singer named Flora, Gus took her to a restaurant where he told Carole and Tuesday that he used to be his producer from the beginning but she left him after a production company took her, eventually she was left alone and depressed, so, with no home, she stayed with Carole and Tuesday (Carole confessed her that she really admires her). The next day they couldn’t find Flora, Gus found her in the fountain where she left him, they assisted to the event (South by Southwest) where Carole & Tuesday performed a song from her, regaining some courage. I feel like the show is having episodes with no relevance for the story (mini stories); and that doesn’t make every episode boring, but the overall story is getting kind of disappointing. |
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| Carole & Tuesday has really level-up with the addition of support band member of a drummer, bassist and an electric guitarist! oh how convenient timing! And it helped bring Flora her spirits up! 5/5. |
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| Flora is definitely Whitney Houston and she's lucky Gus ain't no Bobby Brown. They obviously have feelings for each other. Gust moved on, married, divorced and met her again. Perhaps, this time around, they can be more honest with their feelings with each other. Gus is probably my most favorite male character in the series. He's unashamed being who he is and I like that. He used the girls' hard-earned money on horse races thinking it would increase their funds, introduce them to shady, crazy producers and more. Yet, compared to the other characters, he's the realest one. |
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thehund said: i am fine with that too as long as there's more emotion in the singers.Mayuka said: I am in the mind set the show should've had an english dub first, so the songs would match better. easily the best episode in the series so far...wow! fully agreed 100% they should have gotten seiyuu like saori or minori chihara who actually sing so they can do the songs too. they literally had aoi shouta as that minor character and he didn't get to sing. I know this puts me in the minority, but it is what it is. |
| Low-key Whitney Houston appeared! OO: This was a really nice episode. ;o;; Really good music in this episode though! |
| I liked how they basically found a band the same way they found each other. Just randomly on/under a bridge somewhere! Also, can we stop for a moment and appreciate that South by Southwest is on Mars now? Sorry, Austin. |
| god they sound so good with a backing band, much more bounce and vibrance to the sound. |
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thehund said: Mayuka said: I am in the mind set the show should've had an english dub first, so the songs would match better. easily the best episode in the series so far...wow! fully agreed 100% they should have gotten seiyuu like saori or minori chihara who actually sing so they can do the songs too. they literally had aoi shouta as that minor character and he didn't get to sing. I know this puts me in the minority, but it is what it is. yeah, I mean, they already went the unorthodox route by premiering with English singers. It was a step in the right direction, but they might as well have gone the whole way. Watanabe shows almost always gel better with an English dub, anyway. His shows are too Western in vibe. |
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| That was a pretty good episode. The way they referred to as people to be used tho. They found them so conveniently too. |
| Ok, I've officially had enough of this anime, I'm dropping it. It's not bad by any means, it's just... boring. I loved the first few episodes, I liked the music and the chemistry between the girls, but for a while now I've had to almost force myself to watch it. The plot goes nowhere, it almost feels like it's all filler. If at least they focused on the MCs, developed their relashionship, gave them some slice of life moments, some off-time activities, then it'd be bearable. But all we keep getting are new characters every episode and a thousand plot hooks that never develop. Here are some: Tuesday's mother and her consultant, Tuesday being abducted, the journalist following Tuesday, Cybelle and Tuesday, Carole's dad, Roddy's actual job, the blond guy who died, the girls' relationship with Angela, Tao's relashionship with Angela, the guy who invested in Angela, life on Mars, colonization of Mars, Earth and Mar's relationship, why so many refugees from earth?, etc. The problem is probably with me though. I started watching this expecting it to be a coming of age story featuring music, something lighthearted and heartwarming, kind of like Hinamatsuri. But they're going for a slow, drama-heavy story, with an over-arching plot and themes of drug abuse, politics, war and xenophobia (for whatever reason), which I don't think suits the show's tone and characters at all. I give it an 8 because, even though I personally don't like the direction the show is taking, I still think there's a lot to like here, especially if you're more forgiving with pacing and plot or if you're marathoning it. Also, if the show received an amazing, satisfying ending (which they've been alluding to at the beginning of each episode), it might be worth going through these boring middle episodes. Only the future will tell. |
AnotherGuyAug 12, 2019 7:02 PM
| Looks that Angela have problem with stalker Nice episode with Flora in centre,but I've hope that in next ep would be more action |
| Angela's assistant has to be the stalker, unless he's just a red herring. |
| definitely like this episode with flora more than i liked the episode with desmond, and the songs she had are much better honestly. wonder how we're gonna sort out angela's stalker here though. |
| nice to see some light on random artists we may never know or see in the show |
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| I see a bit of a theme here. Desmond and this episode felt rushed and rather one off. Both have their air about them of being what should be more stretched out, being introduced and finished far too fast. That said, I literally watch this anime for Gus so to have a Gus episode is appreciated even if I felt it was too fast paced. I thought it was set up good but the whole "we need to find Flora" and going to their initial farewell spot and the whole "I missed you this whole time" and the picture perfect run to finish it off felt so cheesy and predictable and like with Desmond, it didn't get me invested!! I was only invested insofar as I loved seeing a new side of Gus. That said, Flora represents something the girls could become. Gus turned down the industry taking control of Carole and Tuesday when he let Flora go off on her own, I bet that has something to do with his quick rejection towards the industry lady. In fact, it's cool to see Gus through two lenses. Ever since he was young with his "YOU NEED ME!" we saw he always had that intense go getter attitude, but for Flora he was more so a manager as a lover, he had feelings for her and he wanted to make her go far. For her music and probably for her herself. Meanwhile, with Carole and Tuesday the music that has so much soul he wants it to go far is there, but more than that it's not as a lover but as a father figure. It's great. Gus overall is super interesting to me. He is worldly. His relationship with his ex-wife being somber but soft and friendly, and now his relationship with Flora show that he's a learned man. He's been through a lot. And intriguingly, the guy who has a grip of steal and a tenacious spirit is really good at letting stories resolve. He was okay letting both those relationships fade even if he's not perfectly over them. In fact, his "I can't go find her, I don't have the right" hit me hard because this is Gus we're talking about. Mr. shove his face into Carole & Tuesday's door and nearly force them to work with him. His spirit was gone, he felt true guilt for letting Flora go, as Flora felt guilt for leaving him. It's also been slowly pushing the scary stalker plotline for Angela. Is it Katie?! Is it her new manager?! Is it Cybelle?! Is it mama(lol)?! Is it someone we don't know?!?!?! I hope Angela doesn't fall into the Flora hole of not being able to trust anyone. |
| I'm not crying, you're crying :'( Damn, one of my favorite episode, both for characters development and music |
| Have to say this is easily my #1 C&T episode by far, I was very emotional at the end of the episode, the whole thing was simply too beautiful. Flora's story, although not the most original one out there, is actually one of the most realistic one in the music biz. Many musical artists simply fall into the abyss, such as Whitney Houston who was the one being tributed here, and Chester Bennington who was the lead singer of my favorite band, Linkin Park. I really like how Watanabe tries to portray all these things in anime format, I don't think there's another anime like this out there. Most shows in the same genre are simply too dreamy to be true. C&T is literally shoving the reality pie into the viewer's face here. TheCommoner said: Looking at the current ratings I have a strong inclination that this is going to be another underappreciated anime. That is too bad. Hopefully the ratings shoot back up again after the world wide release. I hope when the English dub comes out, the rating will get better. After all, this is the show that should've received the same treatment as Space Dandy did - Japanese and English dubs being released at the same time... somehow C&T didn't, and yes, it should be obvious that the English dub will fit so much better than the Japanese dub does (no offense to the great Jap dub, but this show is too western oriented). Rowan_F said: Also, hang on, the stalker isn't Cybelle? Well that's kind of disappointing, story-wise, because we know literally nothing about the new manager guy who supposedly is the stalker. Angela's whole subplot has been kind of a mess to be honest. Nothing seems to be sticking emotionally because we haven't got to spend enough time with her. As much as I love meeting all this new and interesting characters, maybe the time could've been better spent fleshing out Angela's story. C&T are doing okay for right now, so could we get a few episodes solely focused on Angela please? I think it's like the producers are still littering her subplot in tiny pieces around the episodes, we are getting slow but gradual reveals on the stalker thing, and it should be expected for someone as successful as Angela to be exposed to the dark side of the music biz (like how Flora succumbed to). Okay maybe the pacing's not to your liking, but I am sure we will get down to business eventually with the subplot. |
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| A little too much coincidences happened, but then again realistic plot is never the focus of this anime. Music alone can carry this show, a very good song at the end ... |
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