| Seems like the bullshit that started when "Goblin Slayer" aired continues to live with "Rise of the Shield Hero". I just wonder why people suddenly have started to complain about rape and violence in anime when it was always present. Where are these people coming from? |
DrSexyJan 7, 2019 4:03 PM
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| My God I hate boring progs so much. A couple of things. First, your personal sensibilities don't determine what is and what is not acceptable territory for a story to step into. They also don't determine if a story is well written or not. Secondly, Crunchyroll's first and only priority is to make money. They will, just as they should, continue to license shows that are going to bring in viewership. They aren't a political advocacy group, and pretending otherwise is actually dumb. I have no idea if Shield Hero is going to be a good show. I haven't watched the pilot, and I haven't read the LN. But the series should be judged on the actual quality of the LN and the adaptation of that LN. Not the ridiculous notion that certain topics are too sensitive to exist in a piece of entertainment. |
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| Tbh your forum avatar is more interesting than this topic |
| poop |
| ^ It's nothing compared to his profile picture. |
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| Okay some people don't like a certain anime. What's your point |
| All the sudden lol, yes people criticizing violence and rapes use in media is a super super new thing. But really its just what happens when you make violent media. It's happening more with anime now cause its getting more mainstream, but come on, Columbine anyone? People have been blaming public shootings on violent video games for decades. Natural Born Killers was blamed for similar reasons around that time as well. I could go on. I mean I like a lot of violent media myself personally but the plot as described by that Twitter guy sounds like it might be kind of gross and hateful? I think the way he talks about it is obnoxious too but do you have a point to make other than people who critisize things offend you? |
| There are 39 threads at the moment in the Shield Hero subforums after a single episode aired but somehow none of them fits your specific niche and you had to create a separate thread in AD? |
| Those scumbags are literally like a virus, that just kills all fun. |
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| Wtf is this bullshit. This shit really makes me pissed off. I read the manga and webnovel a few months ago and when I heard that this series was gonna get an adaptation, I thought that there was gonna be a controversy about the woman because she made a false rape accusation, but there is a fucking controversy because the MC wants revenge on the girl that made a false rape accusation against him for no reason and because he has slaves. What?????? Whats wrong with the MC wanting revenge on the girl that reunited his life? That slut reunited his life for no reason and she does a lot more dusgusting shit later on in the series. He has slave girls because he needs companions to help him because he can't attack. He chooses to buy a slave because he can't trust other people because op that slut. I don't understand the contreversy. I did't find Goblin Slayer offensive, but i could understand other people finding it offensive. I just can't understand why people find this offensive. |
| Evangelion is shit |
| I think what we're forgetting is that anime in general is problematic. It's not made for the outside world, even if it is shared. |
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| If you read the manga you would understand. |
GalacticMagna said: If you read the manga you would understand. Understand what exactly? Thd context of the situation in the series? How "problematic" it is? |
| The logic is beyond me. Putting aside the fact that it is fiction, how is false rape a tone deaf choice? Since when did a "tiny-statistical aberration" stand for defining what should and should not be an appropriate story choice? I didn't know the author's feelings/views about women, that too which are outright assumed based on fiction, were a huge indicator on how good the anime will turn out to be. This smells very similar to a past feud between a guitar manufacturer (Vik Guitars perhaps) and a band named Cynic, wherein the manufacturer's homophobic comments against the band's frontman automatically became a measure of the "quality" and "choice" of guitars Vik produced. Apparently being a patron somehow turns you into a person who reinforces or embraces the visions/views of the creator. 10/10 logic. "weighty choice that relies on context" Rich words. It seems like the human race has a very odd fascination with just about anything that revolves around sex, regardless of whether it is fiction or not. |
KreatorXJan 7, 2019 10:34 PM
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| Those people must learn that the world is not 24/7 operating against them, and that not everyone does something because there is some deep reasoning behind. The author did this because the idea was interesting, innovative, or maybe because he really hates women, but who cares? This is just an anime, this will change absolutely nothing in the world. If their feelings are so fragile, maybe they are the ones that should check if the source material is "safe", or just stick with their inclusive shows. Or they should spend this energy that they waste on the internet trying to help the REAL people around the world that are suffering. |
| Good thing japanese doesn't give a shit about western world SJW. Cry some more, the world doesn't revolve around you. |
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Tapertrain said: Okay some people don't like a certain anime. What's your point My point is that people shouldn't try to censore a show just because they didn't like one aspect of it. If they didn't like the show that's fine but they are asking companies to not distribute shows because "muh feelings" |
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Zircon_Lotus said: The author did this because the idea was interesting, innovative, or maybe because he really hates women, but who cares? *She. Gee, I wonder where all these complainers were when Jigoku Shoujo came out... |
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DrSexy said: Tapertrain said: Okay some people don't like a certain anime. What's your point My point is that people shouldn't try to censore a show just because they didn't like one aspect of it. If they didn't like the show that's fine but they are asking companies to not distribute shows because "muh feelings" He's not calling for censorship. Also, he does not have the power to censor We still have our Goblin Slayer. We still have Senran Kagura . |
| Oh god. Not again with this fucking debate. You guys got baited hard by that tweet, a tweet which has zero influence in the studio's decision. |
| I find it disturbing that people are getting up-in-arms about an anime when there’s actual child sex traffickingーthat happens every day... |
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LunaPrecure said: I find it disturbing that people are getting up-in-arms about an anime when there’s actual child sex traffickingーthat happens every day... At this point, twitter is all about attention-whoring. |
| Truly a Divine Comedy |
| Like Tarotist already pointed out, the author is a woman. I wonder what these people would make out of that. They have always been there. But the Internet gives them more opportunity to spread their drivel. |
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LunaPrecure said: I find it disturbing that people are getting up-in-arms about an anime when there’s actual child sex traffickingーthat happens every day... I agree. It's just that dealing with that topic requires effort. Complaining about something, that has ultimately no impact on real life, is so much easier. |
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| In episode one the MC doesn't seeks actively for revenge tho. He just wants to survive and eventually return to his world. Owning a slave girl is bigger issue even he eventually doesn't treat her like one. |
| I wanna let you guys know that... Things will be great from there. Its exciting! Trust me I'm a manga reader. |
xchyssa said: I wanna let you guys know that... Things will be great from there. Its exciting! Trust me I'm a manga reader. Amen to that. If there is any series out there which soothes your throbbing justice boner, it is Shield Bro. |
| Sorry, but I’m OFF the “SJW Histeria” train... This is ONE random motherfucker online giving a retarded opinion. Who cares? Does Japan care? Does the studio care? I can guarantee you 100% they absolutely DO NOT! So why should I care what he says? BTW, as an ecchi fan that LOVES seeing 2D girls get sexualized and overtly “objectified” I think I’m an expert in this field. If you don’t like seeing fictional cartoons doing fictional things, then simply go away. And conversely, if you hear people making a big fuss about “oh noes, how dare they do such things to cartoon characters” I sincerely advise you to just ignore them. |
TheBigGuy said: Like Tarotist already pointed out, the author is a woman. I wonder what these people would make out of that. This shouldn't really change anything of the discourse both for those who liked it and for those who hated it, but last time I checked this was just a speculation based on the name of the author, which could very well be a pseudonym. As usual the actual identity of the author remains hidden. |
jal90Jan 8, 2019 3:03 AM
| God I fucking hate Social Justice Warriors. Fuck them and their PC culture. It's all virtue signaling. When you look deeper into their profiles you'll find contradictions, double standards and hypocrisy. |
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| People have been doing terrible things since the beginning of time. Shield Hero is echoing what has been repeatedly addressed in media; billions of times, for hundreds of years. False rape accusations happen. Human (child) sex trafficking happens. Condemning an anime is not going to make a difference with social issues. People have combatted my argument by saying that “media is a reflection of society’s values,” but if that’s the case, people should fight the beast itself... instead of thinking that a cartoon will somehow create more rapists and pedophiles and rape sympathizers. I actually think that fiction helps to bring these issues to light. I think the biggest issue that @ActionZacku has in this post is that he thinks that a pro LGBTQ+ series is more helpful than a series that might adversely be empowering for those who have had to go through the humiliation of false rape accusations or the objectification of human trafficking. Often dark series have helped me deal with my own personal demons; to list a few: Berserk, Oyasumi Punpun, Aku no Hana, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Warau Kyuuketsuki, and Texhnolyze helped me accept the reality of my past trauma(s). The above post assumes that things that are not relatable to them are “regressive,” while a genre and topic that suits their fancy is “progressive.” That’s absurd. I’ve known people, in the past, who use guro art to keep from self-harmingーwhile others think that it’s degenerative. It doesn’t matter if something offends you personally, as long as other people enjoy it. End of story. |
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| Having slaves is more a question of writing laziness than writing ethics. Slaves are about the least interesting, most practical way to have characters who do not need to be developed but will stay with the protag until the author brings along some plot event that necessitates otherwise. Them all being women is just an unfortunate side effect of this being produced by animanga culture. Of course they’re all women. I’m not sure implying that it’s intentionally sexist is fair, though. I think it’s more an unintended consequence. It could have a better setup for sure. Can’t say whether the show will be fun to watch or not, though. I don’t have any current plans to watch it, myself. |
| Well, I'm sitting on here, waiting for Domestic na Kanojo. |
| Anyone still taking ANN seriously ought to get a reality check. It is a political activist site. As for the anime, it sounds more along the lines what people would call "edgelord". That is, the authors, mangaka, studios etc. are putting dramatic spins on average anime tropes to make them potentially more interesting. I doubt they care or even know about the internal politics of a small part of United States, much like the rest of the world doesn't. |
| Ok so who cares ? I mean this is one dude stating his opinion, that's it. Disliking certain types of media is totally legitimate, ofc you don't have to ageee with him. All I see here is a bunch of people getting offended by someone's tweets. |
| Good job OP at generating a shitstorm for no reason and giving exposure to some random twitter account that nobody would have given a shit about otherwise. Once again, it might be some random SJW having questionable opinions, but it's always someone else who actually spreads the word for them and generates the shitstorm for no reason, trying to make it into a bigger issue than it actually is because it probably serves their right-wing agenda if everything thinks leftists are extremist nutcases so whenever they find an example they make sure it goes around the world and everyone thinks 'everyone on the left must be like that, what a bunch of pricks'. That being said those posts are obviously retarded. It reads like he's saying anyone mentioning or including the topic of false rape accusations is inherently misogynistic because...? This constant, forced politicization of fiction needs to stop, and on both sides. The alt-right is just as bad at projecting their political biases into fiction as these SJWs are, they just choose different targets and worry about different topics, but it's not a one-sided phenomenon like many people who enjoy complaining about anything progressive often make it out to be. It's cancer on both sides but almost everybody is a slave to their political biases and only complains about it when the 'other' side is doing it, like a true hypocrite. |
AlcoholicideJan 8, 2019 5:14 AM
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Pullman said: Good job OP at generating a shitstorm for no reason and giving exposure to some random twitter account that nobody would have given a shit about otherwise. Once again, it might be some random SJW having questionable opinions, but it's always someone else who actually spreads the word for them and generates the shitstorm for no reason, trying to make it into a bigger issue than it actually is because it probably serves their right-wing agenda if everything thinks leftists are extremist nutcases so whenever they find an example they make sure it goes around the world and everyone thinks 'everyone on the left must be like that, what a bunch of pricks'. That being said those posts are obviously retarded. It reads like he's saying anyone mentioning or including the topic of false rape accusations is inherently misogynistic because...? This constant, forced politicization of fiction needs to stop, and on both sides. The alt-right is just as bad at projecting their political biases into fiction as these SJWs are, they just choose different targets and worry about different topics, but it's not a one-sided phenomenon like many people who enjoy complaining about anything progressive often make it out to be. It's cancer on both sides but almost everybody is a slave to their political biases and only complains about it when the 'other' side is doing it, like a true hypocrite. Hopefully, one day, people will realize that political alliances are trivialーat best. Good post. |
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Pullman said: This constant, forced politicization of fiction needs to stop, and on both sides. The alt-right is just as bad at projecting their political biases into fiction as these SJWs are, they just choose different targets and worry about different topics, but it's not a one-sided phenomenon like many people who enjoy complaining about anything progressive often make it out to be. It's cancer on both sides but almost everybody is a slave to their political biases and only complains about it when the 'other' side is doing it, like a true hypocrite. Maybe you were talking generally, but do you happen to have any examples of this off-hand? I’d be interested in looking at them if you do. |
TheBigGuy said: Like Tarotist already pointed out, the author is a woman. I wonder what these people would make out of that. Ahahhahahaha lmao Anyway, I agree with more or less everything that has already been said, the guy is braindead and SJW should keep their stigma away from the anime community. |
TripleSRank said: Pullman said: This constant, forced politicization of fiction needs to stop, and on both sides. The alt-right is just as bad at projecting their political biases into fiction as these SJWs are, they just choose different targets and worry about different topics, but it's not a one-sided phenomenon like many people who enjoy complaining about anything progressive often make it out to be. It's cancer on both sides but almost everybody is a slave to their political biases and only complains about it when the 'other' side is doing it, like a true hypocrite. Maybe you were talking generally, but do you happen to have any examples of this off-hand? I’d be interested in looking at them if you do. how about every time someone calls a show 'sjw' because it has elements like, idk, strong females, homosexuality or anything else that isn't white, male and heterosexual? Or the whole High Guardian Spice discourse based on a 1:30 trailer? There's plenty of people who call anything 'sjw propaganda' that has ANY elements in it that can be considered 'progressive' by the right-wing (strong females, homosexuality of any sort, non-white characters or actors in important roles etc ('blackwashing')...), be it Steven Universe, the Saga comics, the movie Get Out, the Ghostbusters remake or just Netflix or modern comics as a whole, or any gaming executive making any decisions towards more diversity or less fanservice in their games. It's always SJW conspiracies and propaganda, and never individual decisions by individual creators who simply want to do something. The only way to not have complaints like that, is to only make stories about white males and their subservient female counterparts because everything is else is apparently forcing your progressive SJW values on poor audiences against their will for manipulative reasons. And if you do that then ofc the other side will attack you and accuse you of all kinds of stuff. It's like you can't write fiction anymore without one side or the other (or even both in some cases like SU) ranting about it being political propaganda. It disgusts me to constantly see fiction abused like that by people who probably couldn't care less about fiction and just see it as another platform to fight their political battles. I'm surprised you seem surprised by this and couldn't think of any examples yourself tbh. Once you go outside the 'anime bubble' you see it everywhere. I could list dozens of more movies, books, comics, series, franchises, games where I've seen people accuse them of being nothing bu SJW propaganda just like this guy accuses Shield Hero of spreading misogyny. |
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| The only problem is that we don't have enough controversial anime. I love to be "offended" by fiction, that means that they did their job perfectly. In Hellsing they should have included in Alucard's flashback some Turks raping Romanians, that would be awesome and grotesque. This shield hero is nothing. Move on. |
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| people are just extremely over sensitive nowadays compaired to before. If theres a reason to complain even if its the littlest thing people will complain. thats just how it is. |
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Catalano said: The only problem is that we don't have enough controversial anime. I love to be "offended" by fiction, that means that they did their job perfectly. In Hellsing they should have included in Alucard's flashback some Turks raping Romanians, that would be awesome and grotesque. This shield hero is nothing. Move on. The thing about loving to be offended is that it can lead to people choosing to get offended by literally anything since taking offense is something subjective that happens in the mind of the viewer, it's never inherent to a show. So if you're determined enough, you can get offended by pretty much everything and that's just pointless and obnoxious. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| I've never understood all of this fuss over fictional stories when we've got real problems to deal with all around us. If an anime's subject matter puts you off, don't watch it. |
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CatSoul said: I've never understood all of this fuss over fictional stories when we've got real problems to deal with al around us. Some people love to ignore their actual problems, tho. |
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