Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari Episode 17 Discussion

Lukesterry said:
pity fitoria he looks so suffering for a very long time because he was abandoned, will the firo suffer the same fate if naofumi returns to his native world, by the way I wonder if the hero who left the fitoria himself died or returned to his world, it was very sad he even cried

FMmatron said:
Now it's official, we got another harem member hehehe.

Episode was ok, but the "trial" was a joke and did I miss anything or was there a sign that said power-ups for free? :D

And the obligatory cliffhanger after the ending. Not gonna lie, tho, still very interested in the events.

nightcrawlercyp said:
No harem member. Just a sad birdie.
Also no cliff hanger. Just set up for one of the big baddies of Melromarc battle. Probably a two eps fight.

FMmatron said:


You can tell that she won't stick around, but that blushing and feeling comfortable with our Shieldi, I guess I don't need to say more.

And I'd recommend you to look up the defintion of cliffhanger.

Hime03 said:

The dude probably didnt the post credit scene after the ed thats why

FMmatron said:


You can tell that she won't stick around, but that blushing and feeling comfortable with our Shieldi, I guess I don't need to say more.

And I'd recommend you to look up the defintion of cliffhanger.

nightcrawlercyp said:
She blushed because Naofumi reminded her of the hero that raised her. Now what was between her and that hero is anyone's guess. That does not mean she has a thing for Naofumi.
About cliffhanger, how is it a cliffhanger? Just because of the little accident with the other heroes? Considering we are only at the beginning of the story you can safely assume all the heroes survived. So not a cliffhanger in my opinion.

Hime03 said:
Genuinely the first ep i really enjoyed since a fat while. The only critism is the fighting yet again looked ass, but my hopes arent high for this shows fighting.
I enjoyed the character interactions fitoria, filo
tho yet again with another cliff hanger. Could have some major consequences the two other heros got nuked. The thing looked a tomb, could be theres

Mattinator95 said:



When did blushing = instantly likes the person

kater_tot said:
OMFG that post credit scene! You just know that Myne did that shit. I hope Itsuki and Ren aren't dead! I'm starting to like them and it would make things 100x harder for Naofumi if they died

Hime03 said:

Wouldnt just be better to nuke naofumi himself if its myne

kater_tot said:


What? I don't understand what you mean?

SSL443 said:
So after the birb queen delivers the "kill all heroes" ultimatum, they just sit down for a pleasant breakfast - only for the birb to take Melty hostage out of nowhere. Cause that's happening now, I guess.

Who thought that this was a good way to start this scene? How bad is this author at creating natural, logical pacing? With so many of the scenes in this show, it's like they have no idea how to get the narrative from one plot point to another in a natural way, so they don't even try.

Whatever. It's clear that the whole point of this part of the story is the manufacture some kind of character arc for Naofumi. He will learn to stop being an angsty asshole, and to trust other people again, all while putting his differences with the other heroes behind him so that they can band together and stop the waves once and for all!! In other words, the weakest, most tacked-on narrative device possible to extract some kind of meaning out of a main character who up to this point has had minimal development or depth.

None of this makes any sense, given the premise for this conflict is built on a the contrived setup from the first episode. Naofumi is only a hate-filled, grimacing emo because everyone was a dick to him for no reason, but suddenly it's his arc to overcome a problem created by shitty writing in the first place.

And boy, when it comes to the writing in this show, it feels like everything this author comes up with is an imperfect copy of something that they have seen executed better somewhere else. This reconciliation/redemption beat is a perfect example. You can find any number of stories that involve an arc where estranged characters mend some kind of misunderstanding and make peace, and that is the main arc for those characters. But in shield hero, it is awkwardly shoe-horned in with no setup or justification.

Now, since having a cobbled-together character arc for the MC isn't enough, there also needs to be some kind of conflict related to the premise of the main story - not least because the overarching plot has been going basically nowhere for most of the show. So we get this cliche "fight for the world, or fight for the people" dilemma. There's no explanation of what the fuck this is supposed to mean, but that doesn't matter; as long as a narrative beat forcing the main characters to make some kind of edgy, difficult ethical choice is fulfilled. Because otherwise there would be no tension or interest in the main story whatsoever.

Of course, no episode would be complete without validating the superiority of the MC over all lesser lifeforms - as well as establishing that all loli animal waifus are lusting after his edgy hero D. We need the loli queen to tell us that the MC is superior to all the other heroes and just all around a great guy. Then she invites him to fuck, all said while looking directly into the camera.

This is anime in 2019.

Hime03 said:
I did agree with you mainly for all ur paragraphs until the last one. But if thats how ur interpted that scene ur referring to,i mean good for you. It made blatantly clear thats hes superior at fighting. And loli queen there relationship does make sense, i personally saw it more platonic relationship.
Also the writing on the show each episode individually is pretty dire, but the over arching story is written pretty smart

SSL443 said:
So after the birb queen delivers the "kill all heroes" ultimatum, they just sit down for a pleasant breakfast - only for the birb to take Melty hostage out of nowhere. Cause that's happening now, I guess.

Who thought that this was a good way to start this scene? How bad is this author at creating natural, logical pacing? With so many of the scenes in this show, it's like they have no idea how to get the narrative from one plot point to another in a natural way, so they don't even try.

Whatever. It's clear that the whole point of this part of the story is the manufacture some kind of character arc for Naofumi. He will learn to stop being an angsty asshole, and to trust other people again, all while putting his differences with the other heroes behind him so that they can band together and stop the waves once and for all!! In other words, the weakest, most tacked-on narrative device possible to extract some kind of meaning out of a main character who up to this point has had minimal development or depth.

None of this makes any sense, given the premise for this conflict is built on a the contrived setup from the first episode. Naofumi is only a hate-filled, grimacing emo because everyone was a dick to him for no reason, but suddenly it's his arc to overcome a problem created by shitty writing in the first place.

And boy, when it comes to the writing in this show, it feels like everything this author comes up with is an imperfect copy of something that they have seen executed better somewhere else. This reconciliation/redemption beat is a perfect example. You can find any number of stories that involve an arc where estranged characters mend some kind of misunderstanding and make peace, and that is the main arc for those characters. But in shield hero, it is awkwardly shoe-horned in with no setup or justification.

Now, since having a cobbled-together character arc for the MC isn't enough, there also needs to be some kind of conflict related to the premise of the main story - not least because the overarching plot has been going basically nowhere for most of the show. So we get this cliche "fight for the world, or fight for the people" dilemma. There's no explanation of what the fuck this is supposed to mean, but that doesn't matter; as long as a narrative beat forcing the main characters to make some kind of edgy, difficult ethical choice is fulfilled. Because otherwise there would be no tension or interest in the main story whatsoever.

Of course, no episode would be complete without validating the superiority of the MC over all lesser lifeforms - as well as establishing that all loli animal waifus are lusting after his edgy hero D. We need the loli queen to tell us that the MC is superior to all the other heroes and just all around a great guy. Then she invites him to fuck, all said while looking directly into the camera.

This is anime in 2019.

Destined_One said:
Let me apply that here differently ">imagine trying to enjoy anime at 15+ age"

SSL443 said:

I mean I enjoy plenty of other anime not strictly aimed at adult audiences so I'm not sure what age has to do with it. Bad writing is bad writing.

Destined_One said:
The joke here is how can you enjoy something when someone else hate it ?

Hime03 said:

I mean killing them would make stuff harder for naofumi, sure. But surely u might as well naomfumi if you are myne, instead of sword and bow.