It's really sad how anime girls used to be decent looking ladies, and now they dress up like, for a lack of a better word, hookers... Discussion.
Anime girls before:   Anime girls now:   Remember when women didn't need to sell their bodies, to be more interesting as characters? Please, discuss. |
| So you are comparing anime characters from old non-ecchi shows with some from new ecchi shows and blame the difference on the age. Sounds like a completely fine comparison with no flaws whatsoever. |
| I like girls being dressed as whores, there is nothing wrong with sexualization of female characters in medium. In any medium. |
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| Bait harder. Maybe take up a course in BM Masterbaiting. |
 You gave up your freedom of speech when you clicked Agree to the User Agreement This is not a public platform. My gaze is the measure of all things: I stopped considering "anime" a helpful tag Recommended Essays Exploring Actually Excellent World-Building |
| Those little bras look like they're gonna bust open any time |
| I see your comparison... No doubt why you're mentally deranged. |
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| Blame the guys who want this kind of content ;) |
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| Nice bait dude, some mod close this thread please. |
| OP is totally not comparing two different things. |
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process. Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers. |
| wait a second, what happened with your account psajdak? it used to be older |
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| Unfair comparison. There was sexualization of women in fiction back in the days too. |
 Truly a Divine Comedy  |
ecchiharemgeek said: Mirai said: Blame the guys who want this kind of content ;) Says while having shoujo and free swimming club Double standard much Hey I never said it was a bad thing, just saying there's a reason for it :^) |
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Psajdak said: Anime girls before: Anime girls now: Remember when women didn't need to sell their bodies, to be more interesting as characters? Please, discuss. So your basically your slut shaming female characters for being sexual |
| I'm just going to put aside the baiting and the cherry picked examples and the whole "this thread is blatantly full of shit" thing and say that I think anime needs more content like we find in the second two pictures |
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I gotta love me some bait. Hardcore bait good sir. And here I am falling for it.   |
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| That's not a good pic you have there with Major, 75% o the time she wears a sexy lingerie and a leather jacket, you can see her bikini line too. |
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| the girls from lovelive don't dress like prostitutes op you are full of bullshit |
Edward Elric > your waifu  |
| Op is crazy The girl from cowboy bebop always dressed as a hooker So did a shit ton of girls in dem old anime |
| Most underated anime on mal: https://myanimelist.net/anime/4651/Yume_no_Crayon_Oukoku?q=Yume%20ni%20crayon |
KatsutoSaki said: I see your comparison... No doubt why you're mentally deranged. so is every anime fan, my dude. ------ |
| I did like this troll thread tbh Dlwuik said: the girls from lovelive don't dress like prostitutes op you are full of bullshit They will once they become too old for the idol crap after few years |
| Most underated anime on mal: https://myanimelist.net/anime/4651/Yume_no_Crayon_Oukoku?q=Yume%20ni%20crayon |
Akerakai said: I did like this troll thread tbh Dlwuik said: the girls from lovelive don't dress like prostitutes op you are full of bullshit They will once they become too old for the idol crap after few years wtf what if they became prostitutes after μ's disbanded that's horrifying |
Edward Elric > your waifu |
| I think you should've used more and better examples here. Comparing female character designs with ecchi character designs isn't really fair. Of course ecchi anime are going to have the females dressed like hookers. |
Dlwuik said: ik that we all wanted a sequal about that rather than the crappy sequal with the copy pasted girlsAkerakai said: I did like this troll thread tbh They will once they become too old for the idol crap after few years wtf what if they became prostitutes after μ's disbanded that's horrifying |
| Most underated anime on mal: https://myanimelist.net/anime/4651/Yume_no_Crayon_Oukoku?q=Yume%20ni%20crayon |
| Nothing wrong with the last two pics ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
| It's always been like that. It's not a new thing. The girls in Fairy Tail looks like big breasted bimbos. That's why I refuse to watch that show. Just stay away form such shows. |
| For the sake of comparison: 70s  80s  90s  00s  2018    Learn your facts OP |
| Omg, I can't breathe. Bro please stop. XD |
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| That's not fair. You used two softcore porn series as modern examples. |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
| this is so SAD. can we hit 5,000,000 likes to show the media how ignorant the anime industry is towards displayal of women. respect women please guys very please thank you like subscrib |
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| you can make a light novel out of your title op. dont get me wrong, the first 3 photo you put is good, i love me some nice dressed women, Tomie for example i want to write more but—knowing this is a bait, i have to stop |
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uninstallthegame said: this is so SAD. can we hit 5,000,000 likes to show the media how ignorant the anime industry is towards displayal of women. respect women please guys very please thank you like subscrib Alexa, play Despacito 3 as a sign that I respect all the wamen. |
CatSoul said: That's not fair. You used two softcore porn series as modern examples. Calal-Chan said: Bait or no bait, idk about the other image I am not quoting but Kusanagi and Faye's sexy attire have a reason in the show and can also give depth to their characters. Faye's sensuality is similar to Fujiko and for both is an expression of their femininity but also a convenient tool for their job. Until they feel in control they have no issue showing some skin but without ever feeling obscene, vulgar or dumb.I gotta love me some bait. Hardcore bait good sir. And here I am falling for it. [img]http://anitokyo.tv/uploads/screenshots/2013-10/1382108667_ghost-in-the-shell-06.jpg[/img+] [img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9c/7f/68/9c7f68cc120ac5690bc331e0b7cd0167.jpg[/img+] Kusanagi is a different topic because while she chose a female body that's not her body, she doesn't feel shame because she doesn't feel naked. Bait or no bait I agree that Kusanagi and Faye "didn't need to sell their bodies, to be more interesting as characters" but it was a trait of their character. jal90 said: 70s that's Nagai and he's kinda his own thing, although he might be the one opening the way to sexual fanservice.For the sake of comparison: 70s [img]https://i.imgur.com/PReKlva.jpg[/img+] 80s [img]https://i.imgur.com/IUUvJzi.jpg[/img+] 90s [img]https://i.imgur.com/WeKzq4b.jpg[/img+] 00s [img]https://i.imgur.com/ynPRVKY.jpg?1[/img+] 90s fair enough 00s You aren't going to see me defend Suzumiya... 80s The main reason I wanted to reply. As we can see even from this thread, the usual ecchi fans responses to an ecchi thread in order to avoid discussing are: "this is bait" (which to be fair can be but report it and move on), derailing the thread or "old anime did it too". Now with the last response I want to get back to the 80s image you posted and say that such images for me don't cross the line. With some effort from the anime I could still take the show seriously or find it amusing (since most "old ecchi" are just comical not erotic). The older character design makes that swimsuit armor more acceptable and not like a character taken from a hentai like the other two OP posted. That 80s "ecchi" image is not as distasteful and offensive in the context of an anime show. And I specify anime show because I'd welcome the characters OP posted in a hentai but not in an anime that has some resemblance of story or characterization. To me if it's done in a superficial way just for the fanservice they contradict each other. |
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| @zal I'm just trolling back. I know the source of each of these shows, heck Cutie Honey has a reputation for being the granddaddy of ecchi anime, Genmu senki Leda is just your average exploitative action OVA with an impractical and revealing fighting costume for the sake of, Golden Boy is a standard ecchi (a good one though), I know the context of that scene in Haruhi and the 2018 pics all happen in a cold environment. |
zal said: The main reason I wanted to reply. As we can see even from this thread, the usual ecchi fans responses to an ecchi thread in order to avoid discussing are: "this is bait" (which to be fair can be but report it and move on), derailing the thread or "old anime did it too". I mean, the main reason I don't discuss things in any kind of earnest in threads like that is that it seems pretty pointless to justify bait threads coming from known shitposters (i.e. the last thread you bitched about this in) with legitimate responses or, like this one, which I'd really need a strong, strong justification to not just see as a bait thread of sorts. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but I'm not going to waste my life trying to kick up a meaningful conversation in a discussion thread that's being laid out like this. If you want to do so, by all means try, but I'm not obligated to respond to you or discuss things with you - which, I usually won't bother with what I've seen be your most frequent approach to the topic, but I'll get into that in a bit - and I'd appreciate it if you'd stop childishly tossing about allegations of avoiding criticism every time people call a bait thread a bait thread. There is no meaningful discussion being laid out here, if you want to try to make one then go ahead, but the thread itself is pretty much weightless. Continue to complain about the lack of engagement with these topics if you want to, I guess, but to me it just seems like you're creating an entirely asinine narrative with all of this that doesn't need to be a thing at all. And with you specifically (and not-so-specifically, I guess) I tend to avoid discussing these things because of what you pretty much outlined in your post right here: zal said: That 80s "ecchi" image is not as distasteful and offensive in the context of an anime show. And I specify anime show because I'd welcome the characters OP posted in a hentai but not in an anime that has some resemblance of story or characterization. To me if it's done in a superficial way just for the fanservice they contradict each other. This the angle I've seen you approach it from the most, and all I can really say is that I don't give a fuck whether or not you find it distasteful or offensive. Sounds harsh, but that's just how it is. Feel free to do so as you may, but I'm not interested in talking about it, I just really, really am apathetic to as much and I am in no way obligated to indulge in that conversation if I don't wish to. I don't see a reason to try and change your perspective, or even if I did, I don't think it's one egregious enough to try to change. I *don't* care about the application of sexualization in these contexts, and you very rarely bring it up outside of these contexts, at least from what I've seen. This might sound a bit dickish, but it's kind of the truth I see here - what's the point of responding if I don't actually care enough about your take to want to engage you in a discussion about it? There's no need to really outright tell you "I don't give a fuck" when you start telling your thoughts or making a post in a thread, if anything that seems needlessly hostile to me, but since this isn't the first time I've seen you bitch about this, I might as well just tell you forthright that it's very much the case and it's the main reason why I don't engage you on this topic, just to leave you wondering less, perhaps. Your sensitivities, what you deem as appropriate or inappropriate to sexualize, things like this are none of my concern. And I just have no interest in making them my concern because it seems more draining and tiresome than interesting or thought-provoking. So there you go. Can't really speak for others, but I very much just do not care about this specific kind of opinion (or this type of topic) in this case, hence I just move on and go about my day rather than kicking up an argument or conversation I really don't see as interesting or worthwhile. Maybe when I was rampaging about last year or so I would've engaged in a discussion on this topic that I saw as banal, but not now. I have a real life job, I administrate two clubs on this site, one of which has over 10k members, and when those two things aren't eating up my time, there's a plethora of things I'd rather spend my time doing than discussing whether or not you find a sexualized portrayal tasteful or distasteful. That does extend beyond you, too, I've pretty much abandoned the "tastefulness in ecchi" discussion at this point all together. Because I've reached the conclusion that I really, really just don't care if others find it offensive or whatever. I'll do me, I'll like what I like, and judgement such as that coming from others isn't anything to worry about. Your problems aren't my problems, stop trying to make them as much by trying to taunt into engaging in a discussion I'm just not interested in having, because that's really how it comes off when you start accusing others of avoiding discussion and the underlying tone of that comes off like you're making it out as hiding from criticism or something. I will gladly write out something in earnest, whenever I view the topic as worth discussing or interesting to talk about. But what you're trying to bring up here, I don't. So I'm not wasting my time. Sorry. |
ManabanAug 20, 2018 6:56 AM
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| Um...who fucking cares? Anime girls nowadays are good for ONE fucking thing! |
| Lol, why are you comparing girls from ecchi to everything else? That's the stupidest thing I've seen in a long time. |
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| Aren't those girls from harem shows? Bad comparison. |
| Apples and oranges Op. Apples and oranges. |
| Love the troll. It's not even that good of one because you're picking modern examples from one show that is only sorta mainstream and another from a show literally no one remembers. And the sad thing is you could make the argument with more mainstream shows by using the raunchier clips from Dragon Maid and Made in Abyss, but apparently even having examples from shows that people actually care about (or aren't ecchi) is too hard. |
| You have shit taste, and then I have taste so shit it makes your taste look good |
| There were plenty of scantly clad women back in the day too, OP. I should know, as I'm one of the biggest old school fans here. Although, at least breasts were more of a normal, proportionate size back in the 80s. It's hard to find a modern ecchi Anime where the girls have normal B/C/D/DD cup breasts. Kei & Yuri from Dirty Pair were busty, but still somewhat realistic. romagia said: wait a second, what happened with your account psajdak? it used to be older I was just thinking the same thing. |
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CondemneDio said: They look more like melons to me....Apples and oranges Op. Apples and oranges. |
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ReaperCreeper said: CondemneDio said: They look more like melons to me....Apples and oranges Op. Apples and oranges. Fair point. My post should've been "grapes and melons". |
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