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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Well this was a refreshing episode, quite different in mood compared to the previous one. However, the second half of this episode picked up business with the siege. It seems Kino's journey caught herself in this conflict too. Loved the usage of the soundtrack of this episode. It really brings out the episode to it fullest. Kino with the sniper rifle skills though...nice. |
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| At first I felt bad for that other country since they pretty much lost a lot of their agriculture and some homes, but after learning that the only reason why they have that wall there is to extort people for money and other stuff, they deserved what happened lol Still, it was really nice to see a country that wasn't fucked up and instead was filled with a very nice and fruitful country of citizens who just love to travel and live in peace....I'd probably chose to live there as well tbh (Even though they could very easily rule the world and become tyrants lol, but that'll probably never happen) Great episode overall, and I loved seeing Kino show her sniping skills =o |
| Wow, that was... actually kinda messed up O-o Good episode though, this show never fails to make you think. |
| "EVERYBODY, CLAP YOUR HANDS!" "PLUS ULTRA!" |
| Good episode. I do like the moving country but I gotta agree that they are definitely bothersome, I'm happy that they are nice people and despite all the power they have, they don't choose to over exert their power and take control or whatever but they're lifestyle causes huge problems to the life in their way. Kinda felt bad for the country whose fields were destroyed, then again since they were a bunch of extortionists, It's not entirely a bad thing they're wall got destroyed. Kino's sniping was awesome. |
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| That moving country was cool. It doesn't stay in one place and likes to move along in peace. The mural the kids painted looks pretty. Sometimes they run into trouble like that one country. I felt bad for them at first, but after finding out they extort money and goods from those passing through, I think they deserved it. Kino's sniping skills was amazing. |
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Mouloxas said: Since when does Kino stay in a country for more than 3 days? Also, Lerche, stop with the Kino blushing scenes, they're totally unneeded. Other than that, this was an improvement compared to the previous episodes. It is said 3 days is the best. Staying longer wouldn't be surprising considering the country is moving. |
| Wow if that country really existed I'd totally transfer there. They travel as a nation and get to see differens sceneries, never getting bored of the same old place. The damage to the environment is a big downside though, destroying w/e comes across your country could also start wars depending on whom you damage. At the very least they expanded upwards, so the size of the whole cilinder is not that huge. |
| Really liked this episode, the way they animated the country somewhat reminded me of the country in Land of Illness from the 2007 Kino episode. |
| *Screaming autistically through the screen* |
| The series is still on the tracks after the whole point of the last episode about "Colosseum Avengers". Since it's a great mood and well down atmosphere between the country where nonetheless bothersome. Taking power to conquer as morals and self act of vicious embark of never-ending journey, The counterflowing values of Kino relentlessly still over the edge. |
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| What a horrible country. They don't care about anything except their journey, I hope that some day they will get what they deserve, death. |
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| Another good episode. The moving country was nice and interesting. The only problem is the fact that it destroys anything along its path. Awesome sniping skill from Kino. |
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Mouloxas said: Since when does Kino stay in a country for more than 3 days? Kino already traveled through the walled country (as explained at the end). Given the direction of the "moving country", she knew it would cross the other one in the time period she gave (more than 3 days), and she wanted to see what would happen then. |
| Good episode. Every country has it issues,but that doesn't justify more unjust actions against it. |
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| Well, it was an undeniable improvement from last week's episode, but I'm still unconvinced about this at this point. I really feel that they're characterising Kino in a completely different way to the original, and at this point I'm not particularly pleased about that. I'm still on board with this, but I'm hoping it improves in future episodes compared to how it's been so far (decent but inconsistent is how I'd describe this so far). |
| well this episode was a little calming.... and bothersome |
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| BESIDE those extortionists and so-called kind people that don't abuse power. Is this kind of country allowed? What is the moral of this episode? Is it as long as you are kind people, you are allowed to do such a thing to bad people? |
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| that annoying country sure have ego problem |
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| Fascinating episode. It makes you think if this moving country has the right to do what it does to other countries. Kino obviously is someone who thinks differently and i was interested why Kino ended up helping the moving country here. It was for the reason of high taxes to pass through the country, it's so blunt and on-the-nose but it makes sense. Both countries do things right and wrong but it's the way of life basically by existing. |
| All I have to say after watching this episode is this: IMA FIRIN' MAH LAZA BWAAAAAAAAHHHHH |
| Don't believe the hype. |
Scratchy99 said: This episode was great. You think that the plot is going in one direction, but as the episode goes on, you realize that things don't appear like they do. If anyone is confused, Kino at first visited the Wall Country, but they demanded her Woodsman persuader (the pistol on her back) so she could pass through. She didn't want to give up her gun so she couldn't move on, since the wall was built so travelers would have to pay a toll. With her giving up, she went back to come up with a plan so she wouldn't have to pay. She then saw the moving country and decided to stay there. The reason she said she wanted to stay 5-10 days was because she wanted to know if the country was capable of going through the wall country one way or another. It wasn't guaranteed that the country would pass through in 3 days. This episode shows how both countries are at fault. While the Wall country is greedy, they still want to protect their people and the land. The Moving Country is peaceful, but they destroy nature and ruin lives for outsiders. No country is good or bad, but in this context, we are supposed to root for the Moving Country. Even Kino's morals are ambiguous as she did not judge both countries for their lifestyles. (Sorry for the wall of text) Hey that breakdown is appreciated. Thanks for the explanation. |
| Don't believe the hype. |
| Best episode of Kino in the City yet. The setting was really intruiging, even if it was a bit on the barebones side. At least it inspired plenty of imagination! I feel like this show could be better if there was more time spent on expanding story (or at least a theme for each episode) and less on the visuals. Albeit, the visuals are the best part of this show. |
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T27 said: Ulquiorra said: What a horrible country. They don't care about anything except their journey, I hope that some day they will get what they deserve, death. Thank you it seems you’re the only one who shares the same opinion as me. This country is a plague to the earth and the guy just tried to brush it off by saying “all countries are a bother”. Fuck them. Nah, I hate that country too, and that other country extorting travellers is irrelevant to me aside from absolving Kino, because they didn't know that and wasn't the reason they stomped over. I hope a stronger country one day takes them down. |
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T27 said: Ulquiorra said: What a horrible country. They don't care about anything except their journey, I hope that some day they will get what they deserve, death. Thank you it seems you’re the only one who shares the same opinion as me. This country is a plague to the earth and the guy just tried to brush it off by saying “all countries are a bother”. Fuck them. It felt like some rich people who came across poor country, doing what they want because they have the power to do so. It could also be a criticism of a "complete" freedom. SaitoInu said: But yeah, they're doing rather bad at making a likable Kino. Especially after last weeks genocide. They've also skipped from Volume 1 to Volume 7, for some reason. It feels like they're trying to make an action anime out of it. Well, the so called genocyde was also here with the 03's version, so it didn't change anything. They chose to adapt some of the fans' favorite stories. Anyway, it's not like they had to adapt the story by following the books order. |
DjidjiOct 20, 2017 5:18 PM
Djidji said: Well, the so called genocyde was also here with the 03's version, so it didn't change anything. They chose to adapt some of the fans' favorite stories. Anyway, it's not like they had to adapt the story by following the books order. There was no genocide in the original anime. Kino told only the upper class to fight but also gave them a chance to opt out at the expense of their citizenship. She also made it a rule that you couldn't hurt the slaves. It was a completely voluntary fight to decide who would be king. And just because they're fan favorites doesn't mean it makes sense to only adapt them. |
GoingInside said: But yeah, they're doing rather bad at making a likable Kino. Especially after last weeks genocide. They've also skipped from Volume 1 to Volume 7, for some reason. It feels like they're trying to make an action anime out of it. This is a similar concern I have with this reboot of Kino, having seen the 2000s Kino anime. At it's core, Kino's Journey is a series where Kino travels to different countries and experiences the bizarre and moral flaws that each offer up. She doesn't often whip out her weapons unless absolutely necessary, often in cases where her life is at risk or a situation proves serious enough where she has to break her oath of non-intervention as a traveler. In the original series for the Coliseum episodes, seeing the cruelty and corruption of the kingdom's ruler and upper class were what led her to directly interfere in the country's affairs and the series devoted two episodes to explore the deep moral issues of the mentioned country. The remake's depiction doesn't explore these issues in great detail, which leads Kino to appear somewhat sociopathic with how she resolves things since the plot for it is compressed. Thus far, it seems like this remake is cherry-picking the more action or weapon-focused stories of the series to pander to fans instead of focusing on what the heart of the series is: philosophical focus on the joys and flaws of humanity through Kino's observations of the various countries she visits. |
| My favourite girl Kino~ She even shot the missiles... what a boss. Oh and she actually blushed! So cute :) |
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| Hmm....this series become really interesting. Each countries has their unique elemenets. I think: - First country is based on American Wild West (Cowboy Era) - Second country is based on Ancient Roman Empire - Third country is based on Modern Japan |
| I should've liked this episode more than I did. Something emotionally is missing from this adaption. Maybe there isn't enough mystery or build-up. There are good ideas, but I'm not feeling them. Kino's aloofness may also be an issue. It's off-putting. |
 Regardless of what I say or think, I'm truly grateful that there's still interest in Kino's Journey. That being said, five to ten days stay? Kino's rule is 3 days, what the heck. Also, Kino being cute, I'm so conflicted. Anyways. this is starting to be more in line with what I expect out of Kino's Journey. Slightly surreal with a good mix of different technologies and walks of life. It's fascinating really, a country with an excess of energy, where they enjoy the benefits of luxuries and constant travel. It's run on sustainability, but it still leaves literal marks on the world, making it so that even with such advanced technologies, they're still unable to completely live in a closed loop system. I've seen proposals for sustainable cradle-to-cradle designs that try to take into account entire systems of general living, but there's always a cost, whether if it's in the form of time, money, or other resources. Here, the cost is the ruin that the country leaves in their path of progressing forward. Again, just the idea of moving forward causes harm to everything around them. So, what happens when the advancement of one country endangers the safety of another country? Co-existence is something that's ideally strived for in reality, but in fiction, you can take liberties by having these highly metaphorical stories start to explore concepts in isolated and in extrapolation. The moving country isn't necessarily hostile, but that almost makes things worse. They said that they're "at peace" with the harm they do upon the world, but it seems more like self-justification to give themselves peace of mind as far as stomaching the amount of destruction they cause. The opposing general and the guide were kind of blatant in spelling most of that out towards the end, but I appreciate how the episode played out, letting you think about the situation before it was explained. I also liked that Kino didn't really react to the situation beyond observing. Sure, Kino defending the painting on the side of the country, but as far as whims go, I wouldn't really consider that meddling with other country's' affairs. Plus, what Kino really wanted was to get through that wall anyways due to the high toll and extortion, so it could be said that Kino's sniping could have been a bit of payback for causing trouble to travelers. So, it creates another interesting thought: who was wrong, the country that refused to budge or the country who wouldn't stop? Or, perhaps, is there a wrong side at all? Both countries lived the way they wished to live, and both caused their own forms of harm. Both could call each other out for each other's supposed wrongness, but at the end, both will continue living on. Could the moving country had found some sort of alternative outlet to their power generation, eliminating the need to constantly move? Could the country with the wall simply not be jerks and not extort travelers? Sure, but then we wouldn't have this allegorical tale of Kinos visiting strange places, meeting countries that reflect real life sentiments and seeing them exaggerated for the purposes of arm chair analyses and popcorn entertainment. Oh, and also, this is the first bloodless episode, or at least one without blood shown on screen. Pleasant, slightly surreal, and generally without any bad blood. Besides the torn up wall and land anyways. This is finally starting to feel like a proper Kino's Journey adaptation. I'm happy. aikaflip said: I should've liked this episode more than I did. Something emotionally is missing from this adaption. Maybe there isn't enough mystery or build-up. There are good ideas, but I'm not feeling them. Kino's aloofness may also be an issue. It's off-putting. Admittedly, the episode was portrayed really straightforward, and it explained itself by the end really blatantly in the manner of "and that's the lesson for today!" It's kind of an average story, truth be told, but I really do like it more than the first two episodes. The focus of the show should be on the world, the different country's functions, the ways people live in them, and if happened to be absurd enough to get a reaction out of Kino. This episode gave all that, so I'd say it works out. |
ShockedOct 20, 2017 6:12 PM
| I thought that this was going to be a nice-turned-to-be-fucked-up-country but luckily it wasn't. I was feeling bad when they just crushed the agriculture and stuff but damn thank you Hermes for making me feel better. Also it was rare seeing Kino staying longer than her basic 3 days |
| i seriously admire this author for having such creative ideas for different countries and how this world operates. This is a great anime to recommend to kids and to watch with your parents. It's educational, and makes you question your morality and challenge your judgement with every episode. Take this episode, for example, the Bothersome Country that is constantly traveling can, like its name states, be a pain in the ass for other countries. It has its own ways of operating and living, but other country has their ways of operating too. It's very selfish and cruel of them to just destroy the wall that other country built to protect themselves and earn their profit from. But on the other hand, that other country didn't even try to negotiate; they straight-up attacked the Bothersome Country, and that's fault on their parts. Both of them are at faults and are selfish, trying to protect their own way of living, and didn't but any thoughts into how their actions may cause troubles for the other country. Great episode. I'll be definitely expecting more and better from this series. I'm so glad I didn't skip this series cuz it sounds boring (a traveler's story? ugh not my type), cuz this series may turn out to be one of my favorite animes of all time. |
Shocked said: aikaflip said: I should've liked this episode more than I did. Something emotionally is missing from this adaption. Maybe there isn't enough mystery or build-up. There are good ideas, but I'm not feeling them. Kino's aloofness may also be an issue. It's off-putting. Admittedly, the episode was portrayed really straightforward, and it explained itself by the end really blatantly in the manner of "and that's the lesson for today!" It's kind of an average story, truth be told, but I really do like it more than the first two episodes. The focus of the show should be on the world, the different country's functions, the ways people live in them, and if happened to be absurd enough to get a reaction out of Kino. This episode gave all that, so I'd say it works out. I mostly agree. A drawback of stories with a heavy emphasis on world building is that the characterization is often undermined as a result. The more leisurely pacing of the original helped mitigate this issue, and foster an intimacy with the characters that I'm not quite feeling with this adaptation. With this version, I just find myself passively watching Kino do cool stuff rather than wondering about anyone's lives, or asking any questions. Though, this disconnect could change depending on how the next episodes play out. |
aikaflip said: Shocked said: Admittedly, the episode was portrayed really straightforward, and it explained itself by the end really blatantly in the manner of "and that's the lesson for today!" It's kind of an average story, truth be told, but I really do like it more than the first two episodes. The focus of the show should be on the world, the different country's functions, the ways people live in them, and if happened to be absurd enough to get a reaction out of Kino. This episode gave all that, so I'd say it works out. I mostly agree. A drawback of stories with a heavy emphasis on world building is that the characterization is often undermined as a result. The more leisurely pacing of the original helped mitigate this issue, and foster an intimacy with the characters that I'm not quite feeling with this adaptation. With this version, I just find myself passively watching Kino do cool stuff rather than wondering about anyone's lives, or asking any questions. Though, this disconnect could change depending on how the next episodes play out. That's really the greatest paradox. This is Kino's Journey, and the show should be about the people and places Kino finds, as opposed to the titular main character. It's cool seeing Kino do cool stuff, but my favorite episodes are ones where Kino's neutrality is challenged and is forced to break out of that observer standpoint, rather than where Kino jumps headfirst into being a near-invincible marksman. I find that the series works better with stronger settings for Kino to react to, rather than having Kino be the driver of the story (pun intended). As a main character, Kino actually doesn't have much character, so by having an episode revolve around Kino is basically gunshots and a side of aloof snark. It's...okay I guess...but it's still not much to work with. |
SaitoInu said: Djidji said: Well, the so called genocyde was also here with the 03's version, so it didn't change anything. They chose to adapt some of the fans' favorite stories. Anyway, it's not like they had to adapt the story by following the books order. There was no genocide in the original anime. Kino told only the upper class to fight but also gave them a chance to opt out at the expense of their citizenship. She also made it a rule that you couldn't hurt the slaves. It was a completely voluntary fight to decide who would be king. And just because they're fan favorites doesn't mean it makes sense to only adapt them. Maybe I should point out the bloodthirsty citizens act this way (you know, the ones shouting "Kill him" on the last match), while they could have not. The presence of slaves sugar-coated the rule Kino made but it's still a genocyde of the top-citizens if I reuse your wording. It just appeared that everyone is a top-citizen here. Or maybe you wanted to close your eyes on how the citizens were? It's not like they picked the 12 top favorites, some were not on the poll. Anyway, you could pick any chapters it wouldn't make a difference (as long as you know the characters). So far, the first episodes shares a link from one to another. OTrizy said: I was feeling bad when they just crushed the agriculture and stuff but damn thank you Hermes for making me feel better. Also it was rare seeing Kino staying longer than her basic 3 days You meant it's ok to prejudice someone as long as you know he got some bad sides? ^^ She stayed one more day this time. :o ( @Shocked ) Shocked said: Again, just the idea of moving forward causes harm to everything around them. Exactly, but they also said their way of living force them to (almost) constantly move [forward] as well. I liked the idea to linked all that to the concept of freedom. |
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