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Mar 22, 2016 1:58 AM
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Here are the weekly Blu-ray and DVD rankings for March 14 - 20

Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles

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*1. 6,207 *6,207 Haikyuu!! Second Season Vol.3
*2. 3,447 *3,447 Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun Blu-ray BOX
*3. 3,364 *3,364 Hai to Gensou no Grimgar Vol.1
*4. 3,247 *3,247 Monster Musume no Iru Nichijou: Hobo Mainichi ◯◯! Namappoi Douga - Jitsuroku! MonMusu no 60-nichi
*5. 2,834 *2,834 Yuru Yuri San☆Hai! Vol.4
*6. 1,808 *1,808 Go! Princess Precure Movie: Go! Go!! Gouka 3-bondate!!! Special Edition
*7. 1,750 *1,750 Dagashi Kashi Vol.1 Limited Edition
*8. 1,510 *1,510 Phantasy Star Online 2 The Animation Vol.1 Limited Edition
*9. 1,313 *1,313 Go! Princess Precure Vol.3
10. 1,003 *1,003 Ao no Kanata no Four Rhythm Vol.1

11. *,862 *9,283 Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka?? Vol.3 Limited Edition
12. *,846 **,846 Ajin Vol.1 Limited Edition
13. *,743 13,953 Bakemono no Ko
14. *,728 **,728 Sakura Trick Compact Collection
15. *,615 **,615 Dance with Devils Vol.4 Limited Edition
16. *,567 *3,947 K: Return of Kings Vol.7 Limited Edition
17. *,562 **,562 Shingeki! Kyojin Chuugakkou Vol.3
(cut-off 562)


DVD
*1. 5,122 *5,122 Haikyuu!! Second Season Vol.3
*2. 2,432 *2,432 Youkai Watch Special Selection "Shiroinu no Maki"
*3. 1,755 *1,755 Diamond no Ace: Second Season Vol.1
*4. 1,529 25,116 Bakemono no Ko
*5. 1,524 *1,524 Youkai Watch Special Selection "Akaneko no Maki"
*6. 1,096 *1,096 Go! Princess Precure Movie: Go! Go!! Gouka 3-bondate!!! Special Edition
*7. *,961 43,157 Osomatsu-san Vol.2 Limited Edition
*8. *,871 **,871 Hai to Gensou no Grimgar Vol.1
*9. *,740 61,074 Osomatsu-san Vol.1 Limited Edition
10. *,701 **,701 Ajin Vol.1 Limited Edition

11. *,699 **,699 Phantasy Star Online 2 The Animation Vol.1
12. *,505 **,505 Dance with Devils Vol.4 Limited Edition
13. *,453 **,453 Go! Princess Precure Movie: Go! Go!! Gouka 3-bondate!!!
14. *,450 55,357 Tonari no Totoro
15. *,443 **,443 Shingeki! Kyojin Chuugakkou Vol.3
16. *,399 **,399 Phantasy Star Online 2 The Animation Vol.1 Limited Edition
17. *,370 *3,498 Pretty Rhythm: Rainbow Live "ROAD to Over The Rainbow: Debut 2-shuunen Kinen DVD" (eps.8, 18, 31, 39, 45, 51)
18. *,357 *2,056 Doraemon Movie 10: Nobita no Nippon Tanjou Doraemon Movie 30th Anniversary Limited Edition
19. *,294 **,294 Go! Princess Precure Vol.13
20. *,292 **,292 Go! Princess Precure Vol.11

21. *,287 **,287 Go! Princess Precure Vol.12
22. *,276 **,276 Dagashi Kashi Vol.1
23. *,264 **,264 Yuru Yuri San☆Hai! Vol.4
(cut-off 264)

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wow Ajin flopped so hard

any idea what is the estimated sales for Bubuki Buranki? thats another 3DCG anime showing this season
 
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Dem Ajin sales. I guess Japan doesn't really appreciate CGI.
 
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any idea what is the estimated sales for Bubuki Buranki? thats another 3DCG anime showing this season


474 (302 BD + 172 DVD) with 35 days until release.

BD (Amazon Ed.): http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B01AXRXIQ2
BD: http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B01AXR94II
DVD (Amazon Ed.): http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B01AXRXIR6
DVD: http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B01AXR94JM
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The Ajin sale results didn't surprise me that much, which is a shame. Wish Yuru Yuri San☆Hai! did better as well. Good to see Haikyu Season 2 at the top of the chart this week though.
 
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Grimgar did better than I expected, but on the other hand, Dagashi and Ajin did worse =/
Maybe Ajin sales had something to do with the movies more so than being CGI, because Sidonia did way better after all.
 
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Ejc said:
j0x said:
any idea what is the estimated sales for Bubuki Buranki? thats another 3DCG anime showing this season


474 (302 BD + 172 DVD) with 35 days until release.

BD (Amazon Ed.): http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B01AXRXIQ2
BD: http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B01AXR94II
DVD (Amazon Ed.): http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B01AXRXIR6
DVD: http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B01AXR94JM


holy shit its gonna flop too, im enjoying that show a lot

thanks a lot for the info dude!
 
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If I felt like MAL was the right place to ask I'd ponder if Ajin just isn't as good as Knights of Sidonia or something. Realistically I think it probably just has less relatable elements to Japanese viewers and seems more of a Western friendly show. I also often suspected that Sidonia was carried a lot by the whole Hoshijiro arc and Love triangle aspect.

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Grimgar did better than I expected, but on the other hand, Dagashi and Ajin did worse =/
Maybe Ajin sales had something to do with the movies more so than being CGI, because Sidonia did way better after all.


Grimgar actually did about exactly as I suspected. Estimated around 3.3K on stalker, add on about an extra 800-1,000 for storefront and release week accumulation. Considering that was only one of two Winter anime volumes that I'm aware of to have entered the top 100 before this week (the other being that Kono Subarashi show) it would seem to spell disaster for the rest of the winter season to be released now save probably that one. This season definitely deserves this return though, just wretchedly bad all around and something had to rise to the top. I doubt anyone predicted it would be Kono Subarashi but that's what makes things kind of interesting for a change I suppose. Combine that with Osomatsu last season and this whole topic is getting interesting again for the first time in a while.
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Hmm... Grimgar is the same as I expected. Around 3k sales.

Next week is going to be interesting with KonoSuba's vol. 1 sale~ The moment of truth to see the reason why they announce season 2 as soon as it finished airing.

 
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Hmm... Grimgar is the same as I expected. Around 3k sales.

Next week is going to be interesting with KonoSuba's vol. 1 sale~ The moment of truth to see the reason why they announce season 2 as soon as it finished airing.

Grimgar also got some DVD sales so above 4k(total 4235).
Konosuba should be safe now i believe, was afraid it may overestimated but after Grimgar sales is out(a little underestimated), Konosuba should be at least about same as pt.
 
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
If I felt like MAL was the right place to ask I'd ponder if Ajin just isn't as good as Knights of Sidonia or something. Realistically I think it probably just has less relatable elements to Japanese viewers and seems more of a Western friendly show. I also often suspected that Sidonia was carried a lot by the whole Hoshijiro arc and Love triangle aspect.

I know you said "if," but in terms of directing/intensity, I'd said they're about the same (well Sidonia is a little on the horror side with the Gauna). Kei is a much more interesting MC than Nagate, but I suppose the difference between the reception (was Sidonia popular? I can't remember) is because of what you said, Hoshijiro and love triangle. Having romance element seems to usually garner more general interest. Just randomly spouting out nonsense, but imo it's true. Ajin on the other hand is not only 3DCGI, but has pretty much only one recurring female character (!!!), no romance, and has a unrelatable main character. I can see why it doesn't gather much attention or have a rewatch value to people.
 
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Kaioshin_Sama said:

Grimgar actually did about exactly as I suspected. Estimated around 3.3K on stalker, add on about an extra 800-1,000 for storefront and release week accumulation. Considering that was only one of two Winter anime volumes that I'm aware of to have entered the top 100 before this week (the other being that Kono Subarashi show) it would seem to spell disaster for the rest of the winter season to be released now save probably that one. This season definitely deserves this return though, just wretchedly bad all around and something had to rise to the top. I doubt anyone predicted it would be Kono Subarashi but that's what makes things kind of interesting for a change I suppose. Combine that with Osomatsu last season and this whole topic is getting interesting again for the first time in a while.


KonoSuba is actually going to be #2 for the 2016 Winter season, since Koyomimonogatari aired in the same season, and that will definitely sell higher. KonoSuba is the biggest winner this season though, as no one really predicted it would explode in sales, although it probably won't sell above 10K.
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Looks Like Grimgar is going to be a decent Sale...not a big one but considering the average rate of winter titles sales...it is pretty good.

Konsuba looks like is going to be winner of the winter season this year.. at least as far as new series go( no counting coutnining franchises)... To Be honest i am quite surprised that it did...nobody really expected it to be good..but the comedy was just sheer gold it skyrokected trough the roof.

I am not suprised by Ajin's low sales..first of all the first movie sold before it and a lot of people don't really need to buy another set as the movie and tv series pretty much cover the same thing..except the tv has just a bit more addtrional scenes..the cgi in this one however is not good even by japanese standards...compared to other CGI series such as Sidonia and Arpeggio it was worse made...the frame rate in particuler was worse in Ajin when compared to those two so im not suprised by the low sale.

Dagashi Kashi also is not a surprised. it is a good slice and life comedy but it is mainly just product advertisement series...a lot of the Japanese goods it promotoes does not even remotely relate with western audience and in japan people are not exactly going to jump with joy every time they see one of there candies mentione in high regard so yeah those was also expected.

So Grimgar is expected to average 4 to 5k
Konsuba about 7k
Ajin 1k
Dagashi Kashi about 1.5k

out of the winter titles i have watched that im still curious is how ERASED, GATE S2 and Pandora what there average sales are going to be...any ideas?
 
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Erased won't sell well but it got pretty good veiwership and manga boost which is good for a notima block
 
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A shame that Ao no Kanata no Four Rhythm sold so low, was expecting it though. Think it's a fab show thus far, got me wishing that the sport will someday materialize in real life when the technology gets there.

Also not surprised Dagashi Kashi sold poorly. I adore the manga but it simply does not work in 24 minute episodes, should have been 2-4 minute episodes.
 
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Ejc said:
j0x said:
any idea what is the estimated sales for Bubuki Buranki? thats another 3DCG anime showing this season


474 (302 BD + 172 DVD) with 35 days until release.

BD (Amazon Ed.): http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B01AXRXIQ2
BD: http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B01AXR94II
DVD (Amazon Ed.): http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B01AXRXIR6
DVD: http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B01AXR94JM

You have estimated numbers for Konosuba, Dimension W and Bahamut?

*3. 3,364 *3,364 Hai to Gensou no Grimgar Vol.1
*8. *,871 **,871 Hai to Gensou no Grimgar Vol.1

Not bad, not bad. It deserve more but overall 4k is not bad number.
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Erased won't sell well but it got pretty good veiwership and manga boost which is good for a notima block


Can you show me link/source where we can get information about the TV viewership not just for Erased but also other anime?
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

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Doesn't Grimgal have an event ticket on v1? I know it got a ton of bonuses (the stalker boost was noticeable when they were announced).
Sales are alright for it, this season is really bad though, it's sad because it's such a better season than last year yet the sales are nowhere near it, goes to show how little anime actually sells in a season without a bunch of popular and established shows getting sequels or spin-offs, well, Winter is usually a pretty poor seller overall (and last year's did particularly better than average too) but yeah.
 
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474 (302 BD + 172 DVD) with 35 days until release.

BD (Amazon Ed.): http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B01AXRXIQ2
BD: http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B01AXR94II
DVD (Amazon Ed.): http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B01AXRXIR6
DVD: http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B01AXR94JM

You have estimated numbers for Konosuba, Dimension W and Bahamut?


Konosuba

8,882 (7,312 BD + 1,570 DVD) with 2 days until release.

BD: http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B019GX9A70
BD (Amazon Ed.): http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B019GXDGGG
DVD: http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B019GX99WQ
DVD (Amazon Ed.): http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B019GXDGFW

Dimension W

1,564 with 2 days until release.

BD: http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B019MMA0WO
BD (Amazon): http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B019MMBSGG

Bahamut

1,844 (1,319 BD + 525 DVD)

BD: http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B019I7595Q
BD (Amazon Ed.): http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B019I8CANE
DVD: http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B019I75GD6
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Estimates for next week's releases.

*8,8k Konosuba
*3.6k Prince of Stride
*2.4k Saijaku
*2.1k Assclass s2
*1.8k Active Raid
*1.5k DimW
*1.0k Bokumachi
*1.0k Muv Luv
*0,9k Norn9
*0,7k Haruchika
*0,4k shokomeza
*0.4k Luck & logic
*0,2k Nurse Witch
*0,1k Reikenzan
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*3. 3,364 *3,364 Hai to Gensou no Grimgar Vol.1
*8. *,871 **,871 Hai to Gensou no Grimgar Vol.1


The only numbers I really care about at this point. Dunno if it's enough to get a sequel. I think it just fell short by another 1K to actually have a decent shout for a sequel.

I already accepted Shouwa Rakugo numbers and threw the towel. At least they announced a sequel for KonoSuba which is wonderful but I will hope it sells well as well. More love for Megumin, please.

 
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Estimates for next week's releases.

*8,8k Konosuba
*3.6k Prince of Stride
*2.4k Saijaku
*2.1k Assclass s2
*1.8k Active Raid
*1.5k DimW
*1.0k Bokumachi
*1.0k Muv Luv
*0,9k Norn9
*0,7k Haruchika
*0,4k shokomeza
*0.4k Luck & logic
*0,2k Nurse Witch
*0,1k Reikenzan


Hey Red you got any idea how Gate S2 is doing in the pre-order? or it is actually part of the GATE s1 trend? as in still arund 5 to 6k average?
 
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Estimates for next week's releases.

*8,8k Konosuba
*3.6k Prince of Stride
*2.4k Saijaku
*2.1k Assclass s2
*1.8k Active Raid
*1.5k DimW
*1.0k Bokumachi
*1.0k Muv Luv
*0,9k Norn9
*0,7k Haruchika
*0,4k shokomeza
*0.4k Luck & logic
*0,2k Nurse Witch
*0,1k Reikenzan


Hey Red you got any idea how Gate S2 is doing in the pre-order? or it is actually part of the GATE s1 trend? as in still arund 5 to 6k average?


Its splt-cour, so i'm just assuming it'll follow the standard trend between volumes. No break between v6 and v7(cour 2), as far as I know.
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nice to see haikyuu!! vol. 3 topping both of those charts
i honestly can never quite tell if those numbers are really good or not
tsukki looks good though

hopefully, before S3 starts airing, i'll get a chance to purchase these blu-rays
same with that gsnk blu-ray box! it makes me happy to see two of my favourite anime topping this week's blu-ray chart
 
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Osomatsu-san is still slaying

I'm glad EDGEjin isn't selling well
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Hey Red you got any idea how Gate S2 is doing in the pre-order? or it is actually part of the GATE s1 trend? as in still arund 5 to 6k average?


Its splt-cour, so i'm just assuming it'll follow the standard trend between volumes. No break between v6 and v7(cour 2), as far as I know.


Ah so it would be volume 7-12 than...i don't know cause sometimes split cour series are on occasion considered the same season and put them out like that but on other times they are list as seperate and start from volume 1 again...i just wanted to be sure.
 
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The seasonal sales disappointments have started to arrive.

Dagashi Kashi did not sell which is sad, I wanted a season 2 of that, there's nothing else this season that isn't a short, is going to be finished for the most part (GATE), or is a leftover from last season that really interested me this season.


 
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rederoin said:
Estimates for next week's releases.

*8,8k Konosuba
*3.6k Prince of Stride
*2.4k Saijaku
*2.1k Assclass s2
*1.8k Active Raid
*1.5k DimW
*1.0k Bokumachi
*1.0k Muv Luv
*0,9k Norn9
*0,7k Haruchika
*0,4k shokomeza
*0.4k Luck & logic
*0,2k Nurse Witch
*0,1k Reikenzan

You know the season is shit when the only TV show that can hit 10k belong to DEEN
 
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You know the season is shit when the only TV show that can hit 10k belong to DEEN


True if only considering TV Anime. Koyomimonogatari also aired this season, and will be released in June. It will 100% sell above 10K, but whether it will or will not suffer another drop and not reach 20K, is another story.
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Grimgar doing alright for what this season is worth.

KEK
This is a sign for s2 :'(
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*3.6k Prince of Stride

Ateast they will make most of their money back on the disk sales alone, so it's no flop.
 
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Erased won't sell well but it got pretty good veiwership and manga boost which is good for a notima block


Can you show me link/source where we can get information about the TV viewership not just for Erased but also other anime?
this should be on news section, but this guy @bigivelfhq is kind enough to post it every week because news teem look like ignore it.
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1361735&show=300

anyways, i am very glad to see grimgar sales. totaly diserved. happy not flopping like previous slow pacing adaptation like rokka no yuusha.
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Estimates for next week's releases.

*8,8k Konosuba


This is pretty good so far! I hope it's not significantly high just because people want that RPG game. If it's because of the RPG game, how much do you guys think that vol 2-5 will settle on?

 
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Pretty decent results for Grimgar. A bit more would have been great, but 3.3k in BD and crossing the 4k mark when you add the DVD sales isn't bad. Not mindblowing, but a solid return. Not sure if that's enough to get more, though I'd be all for it since it was a really enjoyable show.

Next week will probably be more exciting with Konosuba and seeing the official numbers there.
 
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great sales for haikyuu!! and gekkan shoujo. nice seeing the go princess movie too, can't wait to watch it.
 
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Ejc said:
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Grimgar actually did about exactly as I suspected. Estimated around 3.3K on stalker, add on about an extra 800-1,000 for storefront and release week accumulation. Considering that was only one of two Winter anime volumes that I'm aware of to have entered the top 100 before this week (the other being that Kono Subarashi show) it would seem to spell disaster for the rest of the winter season to be released now save probably that one. This season definitely deserves this return though, just wretchedly bad all around and something had to rise to the top. I doubt anyone predicted it would be Kono Subarashi but that's what makes things kind of interesting for a change I suppose. Combine that with Osomatsu last season and this whole topic is getting interesting again for the first time in a while.


KonoSuba is actually going to be #2 for the 2016 Winter season, since Koyomimonogatari aired in the same season, and that will definitely sell higher. KonoSuba is the biggest winner this season though, as no one really predicted it would explode in sales, although it probably won't sell above 10K.


I still don't really consider that actually part of the TV season so much as an OVA/ONA but whatever, not going to argue over a fanboy type series with people that are going to melt down over it on me too much. Also not going to argue this idea that Grimgar has great sales (too me people just keep setting that bar for their excitement lower and lower all the time though) too much, just find it continually bizarre that people will find and spin anything and everything to cheer lead about. Like woohoo 4K sales lol, that's the pits for something with so much extras and pretty decent advertising and marketing compared to everything else as far as I'm concerned.
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I still don't really consider that actually part of the TV season so much as an OVA/ONA but whatever, not going to argue over a fanboy type series with people that are going to melt down over it on me too much. Also not going to argue this idea that Grimgar has great sales (too me people just keep setting that bar for their excitement lower and lower all the time though) too much, just find it continually bizarre that people will find and spin anything and everything to cheer lead about. Like woohoo 4K sales lol, that's the pits for something with so much extras and pretty decent advertising and marketing compared to everything else as far as I'm concerned.
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I'm happy with Grimgar's sales. At first I wasn't expecting anything more than 2k and yet it doubled my expectations.


Truly a shame about AoKana, I like it a lot.
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Grimgar is doing something? Interesting. All the sales are purely driven by best girl Mary I'm sure.
 
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
I still don't really consider that actually part of the TV season so much as an OVA/ONA but whatever, not going to argue over a fanboy type series with people that are going to melt down over it on me too much. Also not going to argue this idea that Grimgar has great sales (too me people just keep setting that bar for their excitement lower and lower all the time though) too much, just find it continually bizarre that people will find and spin anything and everything to cheer lead about. Like woohoo 4K sales lol, that's the pits for something with so much extras and pretty decent advertising and marketing compared to everything else as far as I'm concerned.
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I'm happy with Grimgar's sales. At first I wasn't expecting anything more than 2k and yet it doubled my expectations.


Truly a shame about AoKana, I like it a lot.


Good for you I guess, I'm glad this season bombed financially in my eyes so I'll choose to see things that way and it's win/win
 
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Good for you I guess, I'm glad this season bombed financially in my eyes so I'll choose to see things that way and it's win/win

Bd-wise, it seems like a standard winter season(thanks to konosuba and monogatari)
But bombing financially? Where did you get that info? You sure you included magazine sales boost, original source sales boost and merch sales?
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rederoin said:
Kaioshin_Sama said:

Good for you I guess, I'm glad this season bombed financially in my eyes so I'll choose to see things that way and it's win/win

Bd-wise, it seems like a standard winter season(thanks to konosuba and monogatari)
But bombing financially? Where did you get that info? You sure you included magazine sales boost, original source sales boost and merch sales?


Mostly just goofing around and refusing to join the cheerleading like a good little boy. I'm sure the glorious anime industry turned a meager profit this season and everything is 100% perfectly fine as always. After all isn't everything fine as long as Monogatari sells and there's more of it? What else matters?
 
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Atleast you know how to miss the point by exactly 1 mile
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Atleast you know how to miss the point by exactly 1 mile


Or I'm just not being 100% completely serious here though somehow I suspect I'm onto something if only a little. Really more than anything I just love how nothing phases the MAL community. Like everything is just always sunshine and rainbows and mediocrity be it artistically or commercially is somehow knocking things out of the park every single time. I fully believe MAL's beloved BokuMachi could come out next week, potentially do between 2-3K copies and just barely hit the fabled Manabi line while KonaSuba could pass the 10K mark and people would still single out and cheerlead about just how swell that is and what milestone has been achieved because it's the thing they recognize most and they just wouldn't know any better. I'd call the permanent upbeat nature of people in sales threads downright admirable if it didn't feel so misguided and like the consumer side of yes man culture.
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Doesn't Grimgal have an event ticket on v1? I know it got a ton of bonuses (the stalker boost was noticeable when they were announced).

Seeing vol.2's ranking you don't have to worry about big drop, likely some, but not big.
 
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rederoin said:
Atleast you know how to miss the point by exactly 1 mile


Or I'm just not being 100% completely serious here though somehow I suspect I'm onto something if only a little. Really more than anything I just love how nothing phases the MAL community. Like everything is just always sunshine and rainbows and mediocrity be it artistically or commercially is somehow knocking things out of the park every single time. I fully believe MAL's beloved BokuMachi could come out next week, potentially do between 2-3K copies and just barely hit the fabled Manabi line while KonaSuba could pass the 10K mark and people would still single out and cheerlead about just how swell that is and what milestone has been achieved because it's the thing they recognize most and they just wouldn't know any better. I'd call the permanent upbeat nature of people in sales threads downright admirable if it didn't feel so misguided and like the consumer side of yes man culture.
The trouble is that you're using video disc sales as the sole indicator of the health of the anime industry. The Blurays and DVDs are not the major source of income for most shows now. The Manabi line, if it ever existed, is not useful in this modern multi-media cross marketing age. You need to know how the source material, games, foreign licensing of streaming (now big enough again that licensees are on the production committee of many shows) and disc sales, CDs, hug pillows, concerts, figures, snack tie ins, etc. sell to know if it made money or not.

In a few cases of original anime without much in the way of merchandise, no game, nothing else ... well, in those cases you could look at the BD, DVD and CD sales and perhaps you could tell if it was a bomb or not. This is pretty rare these days, even with original anime they usually create spinoff manga, games and merchandise.
 
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The Manabi line, if it ever existed, is not useful in this modern multi-media cross marketing age.

It is a mathematical equation, that's pretty accurate.
Let's say $60 for disk price, average budget of $2 million

2,000,000 : 60 = 3333 (to break even on disk sales alone (which is really good))

I have no idea what these industry experts are saying about how barely no series series can recoup costs, are they that stupid?
 
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hpulley said:
The Manabi line, if it ever existed, is not useful in this modern multi-media cross marketing age.

It is a mathematical equation, that's pretty accurate.
Let's say $60 for disk price, average budget of $2 million

2,000,000 : 60 = 3333 (to break even on disk sales alone (which is really good))

I have no idea what these industry experts are saying about how barely no series series can recoup costs, are they that stupid?
So for one show which admitted the budget we might know. So many different factors in so many shows which is why the Manabi line was really only useful when applied to Manabi.
 
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ichii_1 said:
hpulley said:
The Manabi line, if it ever existed, is not useful in this modern multi-media cross marketing age.

It is a mathematical equation, that's pretty accurate.
Let's say $60 for disk price, average budget of $2 million

2,000,000 : 60 = 3333 (to break even on disk sales alone (which is really good))

I have no idea what these industry experts are saying about how barely no series series can recoup costs, are they that stupid?


For the people in the industry that I heard talking about the sales of series, I never heard anyone saying that most series don't recoup costs, what I heard saying is that investors(be it producers or sponsors) expect a short term return(around 1-2 years), while majority of series only provides a long term return. This means if they want to get a sizable profit in a short period of time they have to get many series running, the addition of all of those profits provides a sizable profit.

I also heard somewhere that 70% of all anime series are sure to at least return the money soon or later. So in every season with 50 series, 35 will certainly not be a loss but 15 will.

hpulley said:
ichii_1 said:

It is a mathematical equation, that's pretty accurate.
Let's say $60 for disk price, average budget of $2 million

2,000,000 : 60 = 3333 (to break even on disk sales alone (which is really good))

I have no idea what these industry experts are saying about how barely no series series can recoup costs, are they that stupid?
So for one show which admitted the budget we might know. So many different factors in so many shows which is why the Manabi line was really only useful when applied to Manabi.


The Manabi line is just an Heuristic. Is not supposed to be a precise and exact measurement.
It is at least more useful than nothing.
 
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Whoa! HQ sold really well. I'm proud!

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hpulley said:
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Or I'm just not being 100% completely serious here though somehow I suspect I'm onto something if only a little. Really more than anything I just love how nothing phases the MAL community. Like everything is just always sunshine and rainbows and mediocrity be it artistically or commercially is somehow knocking things out of the park every single time. I fully believe MAL's beloved BokuMachi could come out next week, potentially do between 2-3K copies and just barely hit the fabled Manabi line while KonaSuba could pass the 10K mark and people would still single out and cheerlead about just how swell that is and what milestone has been achieved because it's the thing they recognize most and they just wouldn't know any better. I'd call the permanent upbeat nature of people in sales threads downright admirable if it didn't feel so misguided and like the consumer side of yes man culture.
The trouble is that you're using video disc sales as the sole indicator of the health of the anime industry. The Blurays and DVDs are not the major source of income for most shows now. The Manabi line, if it ever existed, is not useful in this modern multi-media cross marketing age. You need to know how the source material, games, foreign licensing of streaming (now big enough again that licensees are on the production committee of many shows) and disc sales, CDs, hug pillows, concerts, figures, snack tie ins, etc. sell to know if it made money or not.

In a few cases of original anime without much in the way of merchandise, no game, nothing else ... well, in those cases you could look at the BD, DVD and CD sales and perhaps you could tell if it was a bomb or not. This is pretty rare these days, even with original anime they usually create spinoff manga, games and merchandise.


I'm not really. I'm aware of all those things, I'm not stupid lol. What I'm commenting on is people cheerleading ridiculously low BD/DVD sales. I probably should have never mentioned failing financially but then I didn't know people would take me so seriously. Like I said though they want to see everything as sunshine and rainbows all the time which I don't get. It's just a really low standard I'm not willing to go down to unfortunately. You should tell the cheer leading crowd these things, not me by the way.
 
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bigivelfhq said:

I also heard somewhere that 70% of all anime series are sure to at least return the money soon or later. So in every season with 50 series, 35 will certainly not be a loss but 15 will.

Does that include sales other than disk sales? would the industry even be this big if 1/3 of everything made is a loss and another 1/3 is only really small profit?

@hpulley the 2 million budget is from shirobako, manabi should cost even less to make.
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