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Feb 7, 2016 5:54 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Kyouma is awesome, just storming in there and being a badass.

Really felt bad for Mira this episode as even though she is a robot, the torture looks quite nasty.
Glad to see Mira break free though. Elizabeth also played her part as well. Intense episode. There's no rest for the wicked when it comes to killing in this series but it's nice to also learn the truth about Enamori. I love how Kyouma's fight at the end of this episode and Mira's role there. Nice.

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Feb 7, 2016 6:58 AM

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That was a really good conclusion to this arc imo

The way everything unravelled wasn't as confusing as things were last week so I was thankful for that, however this episode added a while new realm of possibilities that can be brought out by The Numbers so I was quite surprised by all of this stuff


What happened to Enamori was very tragic and I felt so bad for her as well as for the novelist guy....Seeing how this entire situation with them unfolded was intense and just astonishing for me because of how crazy this entire situation was

Kyouma was a badass as usual in this and Mira went through some more shit but thankfully she was able to turn everything around and solve this mystery....It's interesting how Elizabeth is working with Loser and now I'm wondering if these kids are REALLY his children lol

I want to know more about Kyouma's past and so does Mira so I hope the next arc is about that....The ending with the maid had me confused and concerned as well....Not sure who her dad is (Unless it was that dude that the got the life hit out of him in that control room?) as well as who those people are that she was conversing with
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Feb 7, 2016 6:59 AM

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Numbers really can do anything eh....turning this anime into having supernatural element, which I never expected at all.

...and wow, Kyoma didn't hesitate to punch Mira in the face just because she was missing when he needed her.....I know Mira is a robot and the punch backfired, but still.....

Elizabeth definitely needs to show up again later.....she is my most favorite girl in this show.
 
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Feb 7, 2016 7:00 AM

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Yep, another love abuse word from Kyoma, "Special" for Mirei. :P


What a tragic past, and kinda creepy for Enamori. Got slipped and then direct hit on the head. But then...
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Feb 7, 2016 7:07 AM

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RayAdha said:
Numbers really can do anything eh....turning this anime into having supernatural element, which I never expected at all.

...and wow, Kyoma didn't hesitate to punch Mira in the face just because she was missing when he needed her.....I know Mira is a robot and the punch backfired, but still.....

Elizabeth definitely needs to show up again later.....she is my most favorite girl in this show.
Ikr? Kyouma needs to take a chill pill
 
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Feb 7, 2016 7:15 AM
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Poor piece of junk Mira. I think Kyouma's tsundere for Mira XD

Kyouma's such a badass though.

4/5
 
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Feb 7, 2016 7:36 AM

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Number's can do a lot of different things lol.

That was quite the emotional end, kinda felt bad for them.

Kyouma is so badass, I love his weapons.
 
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Feb 7, 2016 7:59 AM

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Finally, the backstory was well explained (flashbacks do the trick, I guess). This was a really sad arc, I feel bad for Enamori and the others (not for the writer, tho, since he was the cause of everything). Such a tragic story...

However, we are starting to see the power and possibilities of the dimension W.

4/5
 
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Feb 7, 2016 8:01 AM

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This is one of the better episode I have seen so far.
 
Feb 7, 2016 8:18 AM

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I hope I'm not the only one who was pissed at Kyoma punching Mira in the face like really hard :O Glad she was being totally oblivious afterwards though
 
Feb 7, 2016 8:28 AM

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My first thought seeing this guy was just







 
Feb 7, 2016 8:32 AM

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I think that people from Orange are not in their highest form. CG in this show looks cheap comparing to Comet Lucifer for example (but it still is not that bad comparing to CG in other shows in the season) and it's kinda shame because 2D animation done by 3Hz looks brilliant.
I'm writing this because that transparent monsters were really hard to watch...
Dub = fake crap. Always.
 
Feb 7, 2016 8:50 AM

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Mira is just too cute








 
Feb 7, 2016 8:56 AM

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Rather disappointing episode. With close to no build up I couldn't give a damn (no pun intended) about these people or the whole dam story in general. DtB managed to flesh out one time characters in 2 episode arcs but it didn't work for this series.

It's regrettable to say but this episode was basically bla, bla, oh, blonde with bat obsession is connected to Looser, bla, bla, dimension W works magic, bla, bla, when will this episode end... I wasn't expecting this series to make me so bored and uninterested in the story itself. Or maybe I'm just a cold hearted bastard who only wants to see some face punching and robot cheesecake...
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Feb 7, 2016 9:01 AM

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only good thing out of this arc is Mira's bath scene.
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Feb 7, 2016 9:04 AM

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rsc-pl said:
I think that people from Orange are not in their highest form. CG in this show looks cheap comparing to Comet Lucifer for example (but it still is not that bad comparing to CG in other shows in the season) and it's kinda shame because 2D animation done by 3Hz looks brilliant.
I'm writing this because that transparent monsters were really hard to watch...


I spotted some CGI for like 2 or 3 scenes at most, when they appeared and when they came through the window. The other scenes were 2D as far as I could see. It's kind of weird if you think about it, wouldn;t it be cheaper to either use CGI for everthing or nothing at all? (considering someone has to make the 3D models and everything)
 
Feb 7, 2016 9:34 AM

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It was alright. Sort of felt rushed a little or something to me, but it was a nice ending towards this whole situation, overall, though. I never figured that the blue haired girl was actually that black haired girl all along (I probably should remember these names. Haha). That surprised me a bit, there.
 
Feb 7, 2016 9:36 AM

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Very intense episode. Didn't like the ugly CGI used for the monsters and water but oh well. Kind of entertaining, I guess. Not as good as before, though. Also, pretty sad too.
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Feb 7, 2016 9:54 AM

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Does anyone familiar with the manga know if this episode also crammed a bunch of chapters in? Because this episode also felt kind of rushed as well.

Even though this episode felt rushed, it was still pretty interesting/a little sad with the backstory and the action was entertaining as well. Lol at Kyoma's punch backfiring and Mira not giving a shit. Hopefully the rest of the season doesn't rush things.
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Feb 7, 2016 10:04 AM

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Still can't bring myself to skip this OP :o

Mira and Kyouma are so funny together.

Anyone else notice the ghost cry or whatever it was...
it was the same cry from Merry-go in One Piece when the ship came to pick up Luffy's crew at Enies Lobby.
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Feb 7, 2016 10:14 AM

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The pacing was a little quick, but this episode wrapped up this arc nicely. =D

Kyouma's badass stats got another increase, with him dealing with the water monster, then dueling it out with the enemy, landing a beautiful kick to the face too!

It was tragic to see what Enamori had to go through. First, it was the 'Cameraman' who tried to assault her, in which she accidently killed him in self-defence. Not long after that, she slipped, fell down a small slope and landed head-first into a boulder. Really unfortunate for her. D=

Mira's role in this episode was solid, figuring out the way to escape her ordeal was to use logic that overruled the logic in the world that she was trapped in. When she recovered, Kyoma came in, royally pissed off with her, and tried to punch her as well. Amusingly, it backfired and she didn't feel any pain at all. Contrast to the end of the episode, where Kyoma lands a heavy pat on the back of her head, which she DID feel the hit. Kyoma learnt his lesson here. =)

With Mira's curiosity about Kyoma's past and his hatred of the coils, I wonder if the next arc will shed more light into his past? I'm hoping that it will.
 
Feb 7, 2016 10:14 AM

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I'm so confused...
Hi there
 
Feb 7, 2016 10:21 AM

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Time paradox I guess?

Nevertheless, it's nice when this show gives time to explain the world and the elements within it.

Though again, I can't not stop (triple negative yeah) seeing resemblances between this show and Gangsta. (I personally think this show is better; But they both still have similar elements (Hell, the OP for both shows are done by the same group))
 
Feb 7, 2016 10:24 AM

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I'm so confused...


You're not alone.
 
Feb 7, 2016 10:34 AM

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the show looked really promising at first but turned out to be boring - at least the last 2 episodes


 
Feb 7, 2016 10:48 AM

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Well some could say that this had an happy end.
But I think it´s rather sad, because every single one of the group died anyways, except for the girl, which now has to live with the knowledge that all her friends died and her lover killed himself to save her.
Talk about a grim episode, huh?
That might be the reason that this is called " Dimension W" and not "Joy and Fun with Kyoma and Mira".

Bear with me the next part´s gonna be confusing and long:

Judging by the events in this episode, the numbers kind of store one reality in the 4th dimension.
There are multiple reasons why this doesn´t make any sense.
To store a part of reality it would require W to have 3 (if you count time as a dimension,4) dimensions aswell.
Either that, or W is less of an additional 4th (5th with time) dimension, rather an alternate universe, which can be used to store a part of reality.
By that logic, W would be sort of an "backup dimension" for our current world, so when nothing is stored, the dimension is empty.
And do you know what doesn´t exist in an empty universe? That´s right, energy, the very thing the coils are used to obtain from said dimension.
Long story short, you can´t have both, a reality storage and an endless supply of energy.
Either I´m overanalysing this a notch to much and the authors of the story didn´t think about it as much as I did or they think a 4th (5th) dimension wouldn´t be affected by our laws of physic.

Maybe Kyoma hates coils because they shouldn´t be able to exist?
Maybe there´s a gruesome reason they produce a seemingly endless supply of energy?
That would explain why Kyoma has zero chill.

Don´t get me wrong, I love this series. Just as much as I love overanalysing things. The text above is the outcome of this.
I can´t wait for the next episodes and hope that they will find an explanation for this.
 
Feb 7, 2016 11:15 AM

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This was a good episode.

The backstory was well explained!
 
Feb 7, 2016 11:27 AM

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I think the W is for Wat because I'm not sure how any of that worked
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I got confused, what's this "other possibility" he's talking about? Did he save his friends in the original world or in the other?
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Acridine said:

Bear with me the next part´s gonna be confusing and long:

Judging by the events in this episode, the numbers kind of store one reality in the 4th dimension.
There are multiple reasons why this doesn´t make any sense.
To store a part of reality it would require W to have 3 (if you count time as a dimension,4) dimensions aswell.
Either that, or W is less of an additional 4th (5th with time) dimension, rather an alternate universe, which can be used to store a part of reality.
By that logic, W would be sort of an "backup dimension" for our current world, so when nothing is stored, the dimension is empty.
And do you know what doesn´t exist in an empty universe? That´s right, energy, the very thing the coils are used to obtain from said dimension.
Long story short, you can´t have both, a reality storage and an endless supply of energy.
Either I´m overanalysing this a notch to much and the authors of the story didn´t think about it as much as I did or they think a 4th (5th) dimension wouldn´t be affected by our laws of physic.

Maybe Kyoma hates coils because they shouldn´t be able to exist?
Maybe there´s a gruesome reason they produce a seemingly endless supply of energy?
That would explain why Kyoma has zero chill.

Don´t get me wrong, I love this series. Just as much as I love overanalysing things. The text above is the outcome of this.
I can´t wait for the next episodes and hope that they will find an explanation for this.


The mangaka of the source material actually did think it out. Dimension W is explained in an infodump that happened around the middle of the current episode that was removed from the anime, and which will probably never show up in the anime, so it's really not much of a spoiler:

 
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I got confused, what's this "other possibility" he's talking about? Did he save his friends in the original world or in the other?

In the other. In the real world, he ditched his friends to save Enamori. His conscience couldn't handle that fact, and part of him created another reality where he saves his friends but mourns for Enamori.

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Feb 7, 2016 11:47 AM

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This show reminds me of the early seasons of Fringe, cases are intriguing, and I want to know about Mabuchi's past and the incident where he was the only survivor.
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Feb 7, 2016 11:56 AM

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Mira had a good question to Kyouma's motive as a coil collector...
Maybe he had a lover or someone he made a promise to? Like the person he was walking towards in the opening song?
 
Feb 7, 2016 12:06 PM

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ok so the old one destroyed himself. Kinda wack yet enjoyable. Paradoxes always get me
 
Feb 7, 2016 12:10 PM

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Benphyre said:
only good thing out of this arc is Mira's bath scene.

That was a shower scene, not bath.
 
Feb 7, 2016 12:11 PM

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It's a shame, I think this show had the chance to be pretty special if the pacing wasn't so fast.

Nonetheless, I still enjoyed this arc.
 
Feb 7, 2016 12:21 PM

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Barely understood what was going on, it was pretty rushed.

The alternate universe shit just got me so lost along with the blonde haired bat girl who was connected to Loser and is his possible daughter because she called him papa? But then that guy who was standing at the edge of the woods was the one actually talking even though Loser's mask show'd up on her screen? I just didnt understand.

The story of the author was cool but it felt like something that happens later in the show like some small extra arc, we should be learning who Kyoma is not going on a Scooby-Doo adventure after only 4 episodes.

It was an okay episode just, wasn't something I cared for because it felt really random and out of place this early in the show. The mystery aspect isnt what I watched this show for, I watched it for scenes like when we first met Loser and so on, those were GREAT episodes. Not saying Mystery has to be gone but not just to this level.
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Kyouma's definitely starting to warm up to Mira. That last "Piece of Junk" was totally tsundere.
She's really helpful and he's realizing it :P

What shocked me most...Elizabeth is Loser's daughter O_o
 
Feb 7, 2016 1:14 PM

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Damn, what an ending! Really sad story that guy had going on. Great conclusion to this arc!
 
Feb 7, 2016 1:34 PM

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I'm sorry, but could someone explain what actually happened? I believe I understood the basics, but who were the guys who tried to kidnap the writer's pseudo-sister and why? Why the ghosts were attacking people in the real world in the first place? What was that giant blue cube? Who was that psycho redhead in the fake world and why everyone in that world were just killer material?
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I wasn't a fan of this arc. I'm glad it's over now.
 
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i like the action. i like the story too. great episode overall, but there were many unexpected scene though.... like that blode loli is loser's daughter....that maid was the one who change the water.....that silver hair girl is actually the blue hair girl(forgot the name).
i just can't wait to see Kyouma's past.

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Omg that ending was so creepy!


DAMN! i'm suprised you noticed that.
that is damn creepy. so that's why she said "he is still beyond that window".
 
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Nice to see Kyouma in action.
Ellie has a connection to Loser.
Mira is back and lol for Kyouma hitting her and getting a sore hand.
Seems like the maid was the one that switched the water at the hotel.
Well off to finding coils again.
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Solid episode. Maybe went by a little fast, but still decent. It was hilarious how Kyouma hit Mira's head, but instead hurt his own hand, lmao. That ending though.
 
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DarkZephyrus said:
The mangaka of the source material actually did think it out. Dimension W is explained in an infodump that happened around the middle of the current episode that was removed from the anime, and which will probably never show up in the anime, so it's really not much of a spoiler:


I think they will explain it later with because it's too important plot point to leave it. Probably near end of series.
 
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Kyouma and Mira's interactions are really fun to watch. And we find out that Elizabeth is connected to Loser.
Kyouma's such a badass, can't wait to find out about his past.

 
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DarkZephyrus said:
Acridine said:

Bear with me the next part´s gonna be confusing and long:


The mangaka of the source material actually did think it out. Dimension W is explained in an infodump that happened around the middle of the current episode that was removed from the anime, and which will probably never show up in the anime, so it's really not much of a spoiler:


Wow thank you, that was actually helpful.
I just hope they have the time to get all that into the series because as an anime onls, this is confusing as hell.
But unfortunately a lot of shows are too afraid to do these info dumps even if it benefits the story.
The Idea kinda reminds me of an old Marvel character (the Beyonder) that comes from outside the marvel-multiverse, which in itself is "like a small drop of ink on a empty sheet of paper".
I like these kinds of stories, especially when they actually come up with a reasonable explanation for these kinds of things, like the quantum physics part.
 
Feb 7, 2016 3:25 PM

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Hmmm well certainly a tragic, and somewhat convoluted, backstory behind the ghosts. I guess they found peace...sorta.
 
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the animation quality dropped so fast
 
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