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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Wow that was a very emotional episode. The new queen has it hard trying to cope with the loss of her grandma, deal with her uncle's advances, figure out if she can trust the person she truly loves, and decide whether it's right for her to marry him. Next episode looks like they're gonna try and take Lilan presumably to show the duke's son that the queen can control a beast lord. Looks like Lilan kills them though lol. This is gonna get pretty messed up if Erin shows up on Lilan when the queen meets the duke's son on the battle field. |
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| Is it just me, or the animation quality and the detail of the background were dramatically improved in this episode? Good episode on the young princess/queen. We saw a lot of character development there.... Again, ominous episode preview. Things are starting to move very fast. Unfortunately, it will be left half-finished due to the last two volumes being only released recently.... |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| Who knows, maybe there will be a second season though I don't know how popular this show is in Japan. |
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| Wow, damiya cried.... Shunan made a common screw up: " we must marry for the sake of the country " |
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| Nice episode, too bad Shunan didn't formulate his proposal better. Erin isn't in a good situation right now and according to the preview it's going to get worse next week (I can't wait :p). |
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| Oh, that was so stupid of him, poor Erin she'll definitely get caught in this. I would laugh if the same thing happen again, human can be so stupid that it is scary. |
| Maybe I missed something, but I'm not quite sure why Iaru hasn't said anything about the tohdas not having the mark of the Taiko. You'd think that bit of information would clear up any thoughts about the Taiko trying to kill Shin-Oh. /sigh Nice proposal, Shunan. Next ep looks craaaaaaaaazy! |
| I pity Shunan for having to deal with that naive child. More for being in love with her. Inversely, that country is very fortunate to have someone as brave and thoughtful as Shunan at this dire point in its history. His ability to see past the monarchy's divine descent myth despite his whole culture reinforcing it is impressive. |
FronzelJul 15, 2011 6:14 PM
Fronzel said: I pity Shunan for having to deal with that naive child. More for being in love with her. Inversely, that country is very fortunate to have someone as brave and thoughtful as Shunan at this dire point in its history. His ability to see past the monarchy's divine descent myth despite his whole culture reinforcing it is impressive. This. Definitely. Another user said they felt bad for Seimiya. She just annoyed me. She and everyone else are so sadly oblivious to the fact that Damiya is seriously plotting something. It seems like he just wants the throne. Was he trying to talk Seimiya into marrying him or something? Now that would be messed up. I hope Shuunan steals her away and shreds Damiya's plans to pieces. Hopefully Erin and Ial will be able to aid in setting the country straight. Darn, though. Damiya is seriously good at faking it. Crocodile tears, I say! |
Fronzel said: I pity Shunan for having to deal with that naive child. More for being in love with her. Shunan is one of the few characters in this story I don't class as an idiot. He's trying his hardest to unify the two halves of the country in the most peaceful manner, and Semiya DOES love him... yet, because she thinks she's a God she won't marry him, and she probably also thinks it's better to keep her bloodline pure by marrying her uncle?... Shunan didn't word his proposal as good as he could have done but I still felt like slapping Semiya for thinking she's better than him, purely because of her gold eyes. You've got Damiya trying to get everyone to kill each other in order to purify the country... or something; the queen and her daughter oblivious of everything yet sitting in the top seats; and Shunan's brother only knows how to chop trees with an extension of his (small) penis. The only way for this series to have a good ending is for everyone other than Shunan to die. Then, I can smile. |
Fronzel said: I pity Shunan for having to deal with that naive child. More for being in love with her. Inversely, that country is very fortunate to have someone as brave and thoughtful as Shunan at this dire point in its history. His ability to see past the monarchy's divine descent myth despite his whole culture reinforcing it is impressive. This. He's one of the best characters in this series and unfortunately while I don't dislike Semiya, I think Shunan would be wasted on her. Still, I suppose love isn't about that kind of thing. |
| But I will govern this country like my grandmother did NO! That's the LAST thing you should do. |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
| Well damn, that proposal sure didn't come out like the way I thought. Decent episode though. The OST fits with the mood perfectly. |
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| Things sure are going to get quite serious in the next coming episodes towards the end! Let's see what happens next! |
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| "I will rules this country with a pure heart." A pure heart will stave off invading armies and insurgency? She's not even aware of what's happening in her country. She's really an idiot. |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
| Yeah . . . I really kind of wish he didn't really care about Seimiya and just completely bull dozer the capital, I honestly don't believe that the Queen district deserves to have any power in the country whatsoever, they literally just take a dump on the Duke's quarter constantly and for some reason think its only natural that the Duke's army die for them. |
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| Erin's gonna is the mute whistle?! Shit's getting real. |
| *facepalm* how do you plan to rule a country you know nothing about.... by keeping it beautiful...ugh. |
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| Jeez, Seimiya is such a whiny, naive bitch. Shunan on the other hand is such a terrific character, second only to Erin herself. That scene where he presented his men to Seimiya gave me the hibby-jibbies. |
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| Oh dear, Shugan is screwed over, many this has GoT vibes all over, albeit more simple. We've seen what one beast lord can do to a touda raid, now imagine if the 'Queen's faction' got their hand on a handful of beast lords for war? And out of nowhere, deeper into the pits of dispair, the braindead nationalist little brother appears and pincers Shugan's vanguard as well as cutting of their main supply, sealing the Grand Duke's quarters/castle. |
| Nothing can happen until you swing the bat. |
| Seimiya is suffering, and Damiya didn't waste any time into poisoning her further against Shunan, blaming the Grand Duke without proof, but it's no wonder he can get away with it, since they don't know much about the Touda, and it's natural to link them to the Grand Duke. It was mortifying the way he pretended to care by hugging her, and faking some tears when he's the one that is responsible for the death of the Queen. But Shunan stood his ground, he did the best he could to clear up the misunderstanding, and to try and show Seimiya how she won't be able to save this country by herself when she's oblivious to the suffering of her people. The vision of the soldiers ravaged by war may have been a big shock, but it was one that she needed. Shunan also finally proposed to her, not in the best way since he was forced by the circumstances, I'm sure he wanted it to be different, but I loved the scene. But unfortunately he couldn't bring himself to say that he loved her, and she thought he only wanted the power, and in turn he thought that she found him too low, too little to marry her. It was heartbreaking, especially seeing again all the little moments they shared. I wish they could be happy, but I guess that Nugan will finally play his role, manipulated by Damiya no doubt, and to make things worse, Shunan just set by himself the perfect stage for a tragedy similar to the one from the past. Now Erin and Lilan are about to face their biggest ordeal till now, and I don't believe it will be over soon, and my heart is aching. |
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| Shunan was great in this episode. He knew that with the death of Halumiya and the accusations directed at Grand Duke it was only a matter of time before things started breaking apart but he also was aware that storming the palace with Tōda would've done more harm than good. He presented himself very well and was reasonable throughout. I would imagine his kid brother will be a big obstacle to him though. |
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| Everything went as I expected, especially from the new Queen I'm still annoyed how easy to manipulated and naive the new Queen is Tbh I'm more looking forward the Queen's country ruined than saved There will be another much better country born from it Next ep, finally back to Erin & Lilan I don't really like the politics play :P Though it's really important play at this point, Shuunan failed though.. Kinda shame it's Naive-miya |
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| Things are tough for Seimiya, Shunan is throwing an ultimatums left and right. I don't Seimiya for refusing him, the guy was being an upstanding jerk, hate him with a passion. I hope he gets killed in the series, I hate his types. I guess war is not preventable at this point! |
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| Damn some good drama in this episode. Of course as the viewer, knowing as much as we do about both sides, I want them to be together, but I feel for all of their hesitations about tying the knot. Seimiya has always wanted to be with Shunan, but there's the whole Holon/Wajyaku political debate, and now that he looks like someone who could have been involved in the assassination of her grandmother, she's really conflicted and angry at him. Shunan has always wanted to be with her too, but he's trying to convince her by focusing on all the political benefit, which makes her question if he truly loves her </3 This whole aura of the inevitable end of this world keeps getting heavier and heavier :0 |
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| The wort part,is that Seimiya loves (or loved) him, she would've agreed to marry Shunan with no problem if he waited a little more and made the right choosing of words. Poor Erin, she's about to get dragged into this. |
| No tomo malas decisiones, solo me gusta apoyar causas perdidas. Disfruté Mayoiga, Ou-sama Game, Evil or Live, Mirai Nikki, Big Order, Arifureta, Ex-Arm, Tesla Note, Shuumatsu no Harem y Platinum End nope les falle con esa, lo siento pero todos tenemos nuestros límites. Así de jodido es mi gusto en anime, ¡Y estoy pinche orgulloso de ello!  |
This anime in a nutshell I guess. |
| I would honestly want to see the Queens quarter in ruin to teach Seimiya a lesson but this isn't her story so this will not happen. she also reminds me of Princess Shoukei from 12 kingdoms, love her character development from that series, now let's see if Seimiya will change for the better or for the worst... love this |
| Unsurprisingly a pretty bleak episode, which likely sets the tone for the next series of episodes. The Queen’s death upset an incredibly precarious balance, and things have tipped towards chaos. I can only assume that it is a slippery slope. These next few are probably gonna hurt. The episode did a great job resetting and reframing the main political conflicts before pushing them forward, and setting up Erin and Lilan’s likely role in all this. The one thing I don’t have any real grasp on is exactly what Damiya stands to gain here and what his plan is. If it’s just solidifying the Queen’s power, then some of his moves don’t make a ton of sense. There’s too many open ends tied to him and it freaks me out. 42 episodes in and he’s still such an unknown. |
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