The Case Study of Vanitas
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Alice0006 said: Yup agreed even though the current arc hasnt finished, its pretty close to the beast of guvaden arc till now, it will probably surpass it for me as well.234Mannan said: Yeah i think they will end it on chapter 43 or 44. So its understandable though i really wanted to see Yeah, my favorite arc is actually current arc in manga because we are able to see Vanitas past more and it's become darker compared to before T^T so if they don't include it, I am sad though I understand why. And I think you should put spoiler in that person name. |
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| well at least it's obvious where the 2nd cour is starting lol. though I guess the main cause for concern is when the contact card is gonna be played but anywho this series definitely played out a lot differently than I was expecting from the 1st ep. Gave off very Monogatari vibes with not only the artistic choices but also in general how every character is simultaneously shithousery yet serious lol. And Vanitas and Noe really felt similar to Dazai and Atsushi, especially Vanitas he's almost like a clone of Dazai lmao Jeanne protecc/10 |
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| That was some ruthless thing Ruthven did to Noé, that was painful to watch. Vanitas and Noé's interaction was fun as always, and now Noé wants a sip of Vanitas's blood too. Pretty good cliffhanger with that snow woman. Was a nice first cour, now will have to wait for 2nd part till January. |
Softhenic03Dec 4, 2021 1:55 AM
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| Ruthven pretty much got hold of Noé, he can now use him at a critical moment as he wishes. Noé got a lot more thirsty than usual, is it due to his blood loss or due to Ruthven's power I wonder. Since Jeanne also gets really thirsty for blood sometimes and she's also under Ruthven's control. Decent first cour, liked it overall. Thou nothing of any significance happened so far but I'm quite hopeful for the second cour. We even got a glimpse of a new character and she's voiced by the tsundere queen. Noé and Vanitas' journey continues in cour 2. |
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| This is my first vampire anime and was quite Intrigued by the first 2 episodes Vanitas and Noe seemed like very interesting characters but as the anime progressed I got a little bored as not much info was given about Vanitas past or much about Noe and his teacher and the the plot wasn't getting better. I am waiting for season 2 so that I can learn more of there past and then my feelings towards the anime may change. The op/ed both are very good and is one of the best of this season. I hope that season 2 doesn't get delayed and gets aired on/before Jan 2022. Overall a pretty good anime 7/10. |
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| I guess Jeanne has the same curse that Ruthven gave Noe this episode as they both are more drawn towards blood in the same way. Decent ending with a tease for the next cour. This cour was alright, more of a build-up for what's coming by establishing the characters, atmosphere, setting, and story. The characters are fun, the animation & art was great, and story was at the very least engaging. Interested to see where it goes from here. |
| Well there's a scene after end credits. is introduced and she looks and sounds amazing! Winter now feels very far away! Thus the tone shift begins, with Noé getting a slave functionality, and Vanitas going for the big fish. There's a lot of theories that can be made from this episode, but I think I should keep them for later. The biggest takes are Vanitas actually figuring out his whole date with Jeanne is a diversion for Ruthven to do things. The way he ran for probably the only person he considers to be slightly trustworthy was heartbreaking. Noé 's situation is kinda bad. He's the only existing Archviste, he can't consult to another one of his own kind to learn about his desires and powers. I don't trust the Shapeless One, who might have shaped Noé to become a tool of his liking. I mean, Noé analyses everything from ab initio - he considers every possibility and desires to reach the truth. He has limitless curiosity for unknown things and people. Is this a Archviste trait, or is this something deeply ingrained into him as a child? He considered himself guilty for not figuring out Louis' crisis. Does Vanitas' expressions remind him of the same, and he's living that trauma? This will be pretty difficult to understand. Because Noé seems to almost hit the jackpot regarding understanding the context behind certain things - like "love" (Episode 7) or salvation (Episode 6). He's like a curious child trying to learn all these stuff, and that might be part of the reason behind Ruthven letting him live: "He's only a child". Perhaps the most effective part was the opening song playing. If you haven't checked already, the lyrics are very contextual and explains the nature of Noé and Vanitas. The first part (anime opening version) is Noé portion; while the second part is Vanitas portion. I'd love to make a thread analysing the lyrics, but I don't have access to the official, reliable version. A very solid 8/10 which could have been easily 9/10 if they just went a little bit more manga faithful (this is the type of story where every word counts), expanded that Ep 3 Jeanne fight and paced a few things better (Ep 7 follows just freaking 1 chapter out of nowhere, while Ep 9 goes va va vroom with the first arc!). Off to the snowy forests of Gevaudan! |
| "All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo |
VelCake said: You mean by changing this from Shounen to BL?? hhh that must have been a surprise but I'm pretty sure it won't.nameIess_V said: 4. Feelings are complicated, being attracted to someone doesn't mean you can't love another. Jun said she wants to explore different facets of romance in VnC, so you don't really know what she will do with her characters until the endI don't know if you're joking, but as someone who has read the manga this won't happen whatsoever. Also Vanitas basically says that he loves Jeanne for like 20 times and almost slept with her and people still think he'll end up with Noe? LOL, why so desperate? |
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| It was a funny episode. This anime was great but I didn't like as much as other season anime. I will watch the second cour for sure. |
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| well i didnt particularly care for this show LMFAO. i didnt hate it but i didnt love it either - kinda just tolerated it for 12 weeks. it started out pretty good but i was getting incredibly bored, impatient, and tired as i proceeded through each episode. i guess maybe i was expecting something more like vampire knight (which i have my own issues with) or hellsing. the one time i got excited during this anime was at the very end of that one episode where whatever MC gets locked in that cage and the other MC had to fight that one guy. but then i was immediately unimpressed the very next episode. overall, this was just meh imo and i wont be watching the next part. and to the one guy a few weeks ago who told me that my OPINION on this show was OBJECTIVELY wrong, all i have to say is LMAO |
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nameIess_V said: Well obviously, I have no problem with the Fujoshi who ship Vanitas x Noe as long as they don't ignore the fact that this also has a straight romance, sometimes it's a bit annoying to see people ignore that and some of them spread hatred towards Jeanne just because her relationship with Vanitas ruined their ship.VelCake said: You're aware that this person clearly hasn't read the manga, right? Besides, Vanitas liking Jeanne doesn't mean that 1. They will end up together (they probably won't, I mean, everyone will probably die) 2. One has to like them together and not prefer a different ship with him. That's not "desperate", it is simply having a different preference than you 3. Them being together and liking each other means they will stay together forever. That's not realistic at all, as the majority of people don't stay with their first love all their lives or keep their interest in them, and Jun has done before a couple that is actually interested in each other but don't end up together despite there being a ton of spice between them. 4. Feelings are complicated, being attracted to someone doesn't mean you can't love another. Jun said she wants to explore different facets of romance in VnC, so you don't really know what she will do with her characters until the end People can ship whatever they want, lol. I don't care. But it's getting annoying how people choose to ignore love between a man and a woman just because they like a different ship and then proceed to claim it as canon or whatever. |
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| Pretty good cour overall. Very entertaining in its character interactions, which reminded me of how the characters in Sk8 did so, though in a more "Victorian" setting I suppose. Among them Jeanne, Noé, Vanitas and Dom were my favorites (the mains basically, which is good). The animation also was, for the most part, very solid, and the soundtrack certainly didn't disappoint (my favorite being the ending theme). What I wasn't a big fan of were the not-so subtle blood sucking scenes. I can tell why they are there, but they may be a tad too long and "over-acted", if you get my drift. Shipping-wise I'm not gonna enter that discussion since whoever can date whoever else and I'm not certain what the result is gonna be in that department. Lastly, I didn't get a full grasp on the plot as a whole considering how the details were presented throughout the different episodes. Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention to them but there were times where I got lost on the details. A rewatch may help on that front while waiting for season 2. Hopefully it lives up to its predecessor. |
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VelCake said: I don't mind you don't like Vanitas x Jeanne, I just hope you guys respect the canon story that was made and don't spread hatred towards Jeanne just because of her relationship with Vanitas, I also like Vanitas and Noe's relationship, but not in terms of romance, I like platonic relationship between the two, in romance I prefer Vanitas and Jeanne. and I hate it when any VaniNoe shippers spread their hatred towards Jeanne just because ruin their ship, they are the worst tbh. I honestly never had a problem with Fujoshi ship anyone, I can't ban them because it's their right.Yukino_chan99 said: Well obviously, I have no problem with the Fujoshi who ship Vanitas x Noe as long as they don't ignore the fact that this also has a straight romance, sometimes it's a bit annoying to see people ignore that and some of them spread hatred towards Jeanne just because her relationship with Vanitas ruined their ship. You're bringing two different discussions here: people hating on Jeanne and people disliking Vanitas with her in favour of him with Noé. They can overlap, but aren't the same thing. I belong in the second group - I really don't like Vanitas with Jeanne and much prefer him with Noé (for various reasons that don't fit in this discussion at the moment), HOWEVER I don't care if others ship them AND that has no effect on my love for Jeanne, because my view on individual characters is independent from them in their relationships. But just because they like each other and have canon interest doesn't mean I have to like it, and much less I have to deal with hate from others who do ship them for it. Each one to their own. but I agree with nameless_V it's getting annoying how people choose to ignore love between a man and a woman just because they like a different ship and then proceed to claim it as canon or whatever. I found that some of the people who started spreading rumors about this was BL on twitter and YouTube when the first few eps were just released, luckily some manga readers were quick to refute the rumors. that's what I don't like. I want this anime to be popular and can be enjoyed by all people, whether Straight or Fujoshi. |
Yukino_chan99Sep 17, 2021 1:18 PM
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| I will be honest, in this episode I just could think of Vanitas singing a parody of "Milkshake" like "My blood brings all the boys to the yard, And they're like, it's better than yours" Till next cour. |
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| I didn't have many expectations when I first found out about this series. However, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Some of the episodes were hit or miss. This final episode was more on the side of miss but it wasn't bad. I'm looking forward to the 2nd cour! Overall 7/10 |
| This episode definitely felt like it was setting the seeds for future events, especially with that post-ED cliffhanger, so it's nice that we're getting a second season and we won't have to wait too long for it. This was better than I expected it to be, looking forward to S2!! |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. MAL is literally just anime Twitter as its own website lol. |
| I really wonder what kind of order Ruthven would give Noe in the future.. It really sounds nasty has Noe has no recollection of Ruthven biting him. Roland really is on the same height of intriguing as Vanitas is. The way he almost picked a fight with another chasseur was pretty interesting. Asking how many paladins he could defeat single handed. Noe going absolutely nuts on the smell of Vanitas' blood was pretty funny. Girl in post credit scene sounds like she's voiced by Kugimiya Rie, that something to look forward to. Overall it was a great and fun show. I look forward to S2! 8/10 |
CeddyyBearrSep 17, 2021 1:27 PM
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| Decent episode overall to end a fairly good season, although definitely not as enjoyable and charming as the manga to me for some reason. Shame that there's a few months off now but the 2nd season when it airs in 2022 should be another solid watch to start off the year. |
| A decent first cour, but not very interesting IMO. At some point, I just let the anime drag me with it instead of actively following along myself. However, the character interactions were, at the very least, fun to watch even if the story hadn't quite found its footing. That being said, I'm definitely going to pick up the second cour once it airs next season, as the next arc has piqued my interest from the few minutes we were shown of it at the end of the episode. |
| Liked the way Part 1 ended with Noe openly expressing his growing interest in Vanitas' past... just waiting for him to realise now that it's because he cares about Vanitas! They've got a very complex relationship and it was perfectly displayed this ep I'm guessing that what Ruthven did to Noe is similar to what happened to Jeanne which has me worried; will Noe start to get an uncontrollable need for blood? Someone needs to take Ruthven out... two-faced bastard - but Vanitas is on to him! This is my favourite anime of the season because it wasn't at all what I was expecting but in a good way - it totally exceeded my expectations with the complex characters, unpredictability and gorgeous animation! |
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| And so, the stage is set for the order to kill Vanitas... This has been a firm favorite all season, one of a few shows I've actively looked forward to watching. The wonderfully twisted sexual tension has been a highlight and so refreshing in the face of the usual anime fare. |
| Quantum ille canis est in fenestra |
| This felt like a last episode, but I didn't realise this actually was the last episode until I came to MAL! I can't wait for the next season! I have only read slightly farther than this, so I guess I should go back and read more. I liked the Roland scene. This may sound insignificant, but I was so impressed when Roland picked up the scattered papers off the floor. That looks like it would be really hard to animate. Then we have Noe speaking with his face covered, which was just one picture. That was uncomfortable to watch. They could have animated his shoulders and back a little while he talked to give us a sense of movement. They only had to animate a few frames, and use those frames over and over. Vanitas and Noe's conversation in the morning was hard to hear because of the song. That song's too catchy! lol I can't believe I am going to say this, but they should have cut out some of the jokes for the anime. Manga can get away with random jokes, but in anime, it can really kill the tension. And, that doesn't seem like a wise decision. I liked how Vanitas immediately knew Ruthven was planning to hurt Noe. But, now I am wondering how he made that connection. This anime shows the same flashback over and over even when we don't need them, but it didn't show one here, even though it would have been nice to see Vanitas put things together. |
FuMomo-kun said: This felt like a last episode, but I didn't realise this actually was the last episode until I came to MAL! I can't wait for the next season! I have only read slightly farther than this, so I guess I should go back and read more. I liked the Roland scene. This may sound insignificant, but I was so impressed when Roland picked up the scattered papers off the floor. That looks like it would be really hard to animate. Then we have Noe speaking with his face covered, which was just one picture. That was uncomfortable to watch. They could have animated his shoulders and back a little while he talked to give us a sense of movement. They only had to animate a few frames, and use those frames over and over. Vanitas and Noe's conversation in the morning was hard to hear because of the song. That song's too catchy! lol I can't believe I am going to say this, but they should have cut out some of the jokes for the anime. Manga can get away with random jokes, but in anime, it can really kill the tension. And, that doesn't seem like a wise decision. I liked how Vanitas immediately knew Ruthven was planning to hurt Noe. But, now I am wondering how he made that connection. This anime shows the same flashback over and over even when we don't need them, but it didn't show one here, even though it would have been nice to see Vanitas put things together. There's no way Ruthven would give a servant like Jeanne permission to flit around the city unless it benefitted him. The fact that she was occupying Vanitas could only mean Ruthven was after something Vanitas was separated from. The deduction that follows is obvious... |
| Quantum ille canis est in fenestra |
| So far, we haven't seen that Shapeless... What's his story? Waiting for the next season... |
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| I’m here for my boy Roland. If there is gonna be a season 2, you will see a lot of him. Him and Vanitas together 🤣 |
| This was as much of a 7/10 as I’ve seen in a while. Nothing too special. Just a good anime that was too concerned with setting everything up to hit the potential that it showed in the worldbuilding, animation, and character writing. Hopefully the next season capitalizes on that. |
| well this had nice production values/music somewhat fun characters to watch but really was your standard an fair of vampire stories with heavy gay undertones i say undertones despite seeing it being very gay lol they could of cut the vampire thing and just say i want these dudes to fuck and it'd be fine only thing i'd knock is the pacing at times this show likes to go from 0-100 and then back done to cute banter which left some episode on the slightly boring side. 7.5 /10 for the first cour they teased an arc with Rie voicing the new baddie so i guess there's that to look forward to. |
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| GODDAM, I just love how they turned "The Devout One" completely on its head! I was 100% cool with Roland being a kind of "Anderson" for this series. But then the next few episodes come along, and, guess what? He's still a bit "simple", but he's not blind to reality! And then we have this episode. He is definitely "The Devout One", but we get a twist on his DEVOUTION. |
| I guess Vanitas cares more about Noé than Jeanne, well Vanitas run and left Jeanne just to check if Noé is okay. lmao. Turns out Noé is fine but not 'okay' okay tho, that Ruthven is really annoying. Don't tell me he's going to be the reason why Noé will kill Vanitas, because he will command him. That irks me. Vanitas and Noé's relationship is getting better and deeper. Maybe because one of the effects of Ruthven' s spell that's why Noé can't help it but want to taste Vanitas' blood or Vanitas' blood just irresistible af. I guess Noé finds Vanitas more and more fascinating, maybe he thinks that Vanitas is like a poor cat that needs to be save. Noé wants to understand Vanitas, to know where he's coming from, by drinking his blood. But, ofc, Vanitas won't allow it at the moment, he's definitely not yet ready to reveal his vulnerabilities to other people. Tho he's willing to compromise, I guess that's a good thing towards moving forward. An amazing season, can't wait for S2!  |
| I really wish this wasn't split into 2 cours. We were just starting to get a taste of the show, and slowly starting to wrap our heads around the plot, when it decided to be over. I don't like the interruption really. The mystery isn't bad, but I'd say there's a lot of jumping around. The author doesn't stick to just one story, and if you don't binge watch, you can get easily lost or simply forget. |
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The most build up part of vanitas is finally over (YEEET) Many people might not like the 2nd cour idea but considering bones had alot of prjects this year and occasional quality drops not to mention the quality of the next arc itself(Which is pure Mochizukiness) I think its better.(Since its going to be their first project for the next year i suppose) Honestly any quality drop in the next arc can kill the charm of the writing, tone and the things the story is great for ngl.(Taking season 1 into account) In any case bones did a good job and rearranged alot of stuff here and there and made a good adaptation overall. So in the end Thankyou Bones! |
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| Average last episode. Aside from the Beast of Gévaudan's introduction and the plot-point regarding Noé being unconsciously controlled by Ruthven, nothing too relevant happened. That said, interesting first cour overall. OST as well as animation were fantastic and in general, the dynamic between Noé and Vanitas was something I truly enjoyed seeing most of the time. Now as for aspects I didn't like that much, I guess the main one would be Vanitas' personality. I mean, his jerk-like attitude towards mostly everyone was amusing to see at first but it became incredibly tiring rather quickly. Not to mention I totally dislike the romance they are trying to sell me between him and Jeanne. Another thing I also wasn't a big fan of were the exaggerated blood-sucking scenes. You could see Bones tried to give a certain sensual emphasis to them but they failed at delivering that message and as a result, all those scenes ended up feeling awkward and rather tasteless. 6,5/10 -> 6/10 - Anyways, now let's see what the second cour has to offer. |
| AAAH, was Noe aware that he had been bitten by Ruthven? :( and the black curse tied around Noe's neck, could it be the same thing that happened to Jeanne? Why.. why did Ruthven do all that T-T I thought he was a good and wise person. When Vanitas came out of their room and slept on the roof again, I think he lost his trust in Noe.. but then the next day after hearing Noe's explanation he said that Noe can lap up the blood on his clothes next time :") and there I'm sure that right now, Vanitas really trust and feel safe and comfortable with Noe. For some reason I feel touched and relieved when I see Vanitas laughing like that. Although he is a very reckless and unpredictable person, but indeed if he is basically a good person, his kindness will still be felt no matter what. And also.. I might be wrong but I feel that Vanitas is someone who really needs to be loved and cared for, no matter how much he hates affection. By the way, I just realized... that's right, Vanitas and Noe have suitcases, right? There must be clothes in there. But I think they wear the same clothes everyday lol XD it's okay, I just find it a bit funny. And also Murr's expression is really always in an everyday mood hahah. And yeah don't forget Roland is really cool!! He clings to his belief that he knows what he is doing is right (and it is, even if the church thinks it's wrong). Stark700 said: Season 2 is airing in January next year! https://twitter.com/vanitas_anime/status/1438887719460036614 YAAAAYY! I can't wait!! There's a lot to solve... plus now there's a new cast, the girl Noe bumped into at the train station and the girl who appeared in the snow. |
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