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Jul 7, 2019 3:24 PM

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phxntomhiveghoul said:
i love how they're bringing real vikings and kings into the story. i wonder if they'll bring ragnar in eventually...


Ragnar Lodbrok? He was semi-mythical and if existed lived during the the 9th century. Vinland takes place in the early 11th century. Vinland does use a lot of real people in the story though a few introduced already.
Jul 7, 2019 3:28 PM

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Good episode. They preparing to sail, and betrayal ensues.


Jul 7, 2019 4:17 PM

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TolkienFan365 said:
phxntomhiveghoul said:
i love how they're bringing real vikings and kings into the story. i wonder if they'll bring ragnar in eventually...


Ragnar Lodbrok? He was semi-mythical and if existed lived during the the 9th century. Vinland takes place in the early 11th century. Vinland does use a lot of real people in the story though a few introduced already.

oh cool, i actually didn't know that. i only really know of ragnar from the history channel series lol.
Jul 7, 2019 4:23 PM

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phxntomhiveghoul said:
TolkienFan365 said:


Ragnar Lodbrok? He was semi-mythical and if existed lived during the the 9th century. Vinland takes place in the early 11th century. Vinland does use a lot of real people in the story though a few introduced already.

oh cool, i actually didn't know that. i only really know of ragnar from the history channel series lol.


Yeah the history channel series is more liberal with history regarding the events in the story than Vinland or the other big viking series The Last Kingdom (that one is more focused on the Anglo Saxons though around Alfred the Great). I will say that does make Vinland a little unique as it takes place more towards the end of the Viking Age (the Battle of Stamford Bridge 1066 would be when most say it ended which is around 4-6 decades after Vinland's setting) compared to most which focus on its height like Vikings and the Last Kingdom.

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Thors became a pacifist then i got a feeling he is gonna die soon in a world full of killings

and wut the Jomvikings want Thor dead so why they did not do it themselves then
Nah, Thors is OP af. Let's just say that floki is afraid to lose his men. Lol
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Jul 7, 2019 6:55 PM

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Bruhhh they made my man Askeladd a fucking HUNK. Have yall ever seen a more beautiful middle aged anime dude???
Jul 7, 2019 7:00 PM

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Floki wants to kill Thors huh? I guess it’s not too surprising that he hasn’t forgiven him for deserting the battle.
Jul 7, 2019 7:13 PM
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We advance to the second episode.
They showed us the love of the Vikings for the war at the cost of their lives, the honor of dying on the battlefield as a warrior and going to Valhalla, it was all for them.
A different matter from the point of view of Thors, father of Thorfinn. For him, killing and dying on the battlefield is not something to be proud of. Murderous or murdered. There is no joy in killing someone, "No one has enemies, there is no one to whom it is good to hurt". He realized that there are more important things than war.
It is a pity that he has to pay for the decisions he made in the past, and next to him, the men of the village. And to top it off, it is a damn trap to which they are directed.
Floky, that damned worm, lied to them.

PS: Did there exist Christian Vikings?
Jul 7, 2019 7:17 PM

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The amount of setup and world building in the first two episodes has me nearly hooked. Love the visuals though I still wish the color palette was a bit more memorable but that is such a minor gripe.

I am cautiously optimistic but my opinion of the show is rising fast.

Jul 7, 2019 7:49 PM
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Askeladd, arguably the best character of the franchise got introduced.

5/5
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Jul 7, 2019 7:51 PM
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The second episode fulfilled what was expected, the arrival of Floki means the prelude to a bloody war.
I have a very bad feeling with Floki, at first sight he is a bloodthirsty bastard and you immediately notice the resentment he feels towards Thors, the worst is that he never gave Thors the option to refuse, to see how the Vikings led by Floki scattered around the village, preparing to attack just by receiving the order was exasperating, but in the end Floki withdrew, without first announcing to the inhabitants that Thors will go to war and the men must rise in arms to support him, but Thors seems take it very badly.

Thorfinn is a really charismatic child, I really like the curiosity he shows towards his father after seeing how Floki and the Vikings greeted him.
He was also the one who took the announcement of going to war seriously, the way in which he ruthlessly fought with his friends is proof of that, leaving them very ill-treated, but the best part was when the little boy discovers the chest of his father, the look of Thorfinn while looking at the edge of the dagger was excellent and then that conversation father and son ... Thorfinn still does not understand what it means to go to war.
Floki showed what I knew he was when I saw him for the first time, sneaky bastard without pride, the damned wants to kill Thors and for that he hired Askeladd and his crew.

I guess now we have to wait for what will happen with Thors, I wonder how reliable Askeladd is and how he will manage to fulfill the commission that Floki asked him to do.
Jul 7, 2019 8:08 PM
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Thors being an apprentice to a welder and still being in the midst of learning to control his strength is a great, great representation of his past life (Viking) interfering with his present (Villager). It's a struggle to put that side of him behind for good.

It's moments like those that makes characters feel a lot more human, and a lot more relateable.

I love when shows in general tackle nature vs nurture, and how events in someone's life can cause shifts in their thinking and create paradigm shifts.

Thors was a cold blooded Viking just like any other. But then one day, it became all too much. I assume because he started to have a family since the camera pans to his wife and he said that he didn't want to kill (implying that he would be taking a husband away from a wife and child) or to be killed (meaning that he'd be taking away from his own family).

In an environment where men and boys are separated from war and bloodshed and are told glorious war stories from their father, grandfather, and about their ancestors, they idealize war. Thorfinn is no different in spite of the values that Thors might want to instill in him.

So, it seemed that Thorfinn to this point, doesn't really have a lot of say in the type of person that he is going to become.

You see a glimpse of it during the sword game. He takes it far more seriously. He doesn't want to be one of the first kids "dying", because only a strong warrior gets into Valhalla.

He's already been indoctrinated.

The father praising Thorfinn for his strength at the expense of his own son's broken arm while Thors looks at the sobbing child and recognizes his pain is a powerful scene within itself that exemplifies the environment that Thorfinn is growing up in. Only Thors seems to care enough about the victims to see that harming people, anyone, is wrong.

When Thors confronts Thorfinn, he tells him that he has no enemies.

That here is no one that he has to hurt.

That is because Thorfinn saw the kids as his enemies, as his GENUINE enemies. The other kids treat it as a game, so they don't use excessive force. But once Thorfinn began to treat it as an actual war, he viewed them as enemies that needed to be hurt.

"Who are you planning to kill with this?"

Such a powerful question. You can hear it in Thors voice. He sounds disappointed, and almost even hurt, that his son is willing to take another life. Meaning that his son even at a tender young age has the belief that the life that he takes in battle ultimately means nothing.

Thors's hand bleeding while he gripped the dagger tightly shows just how upset he was at his son.

So much going on that I'm going to use this time to look back at each episode and see how much nuance I can pick up on.

This is the birth of a masterpiece. 10/10
Jul 7, 2019 9:10 PM

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ChainxBastard said:

Thors's hand bleeding while he gripped the dagger tightly shows just how upset he was at his son.


I moreso interpreted that as a display of what the blade that Thorsfinn was just in awe of the beauty of does to people.
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Jul 7, 2019 9:49 PM

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So Thors wants to protect his son from the war, but Thorfinn still wants to fight.

Also Floki is conspiring behind Thors back.
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Jul 7, 2019 11:11 PM

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That guy Floki looked like a bad guy and i was right.He hired vikings to kill Thors and even lied to them. The kids in the village r exited about the war but lol they will see the terror when they actually face the war.
Jul 8, 2019 12:18 AM

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The only quibble I have with this series is that the Christian monk IRL would not beg for his life. For monks of that era, martyrdom was a great honor.
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Jul 8, 2019 12:36 AM

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phxntomhiveghoul said:
i love how they're bringing real vikings and kings into the story. i wonder if they'll bring ragnar in eventually...


EXACTLY MY POINT!
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Jul 8, 2019 1:04 AM

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the storytelling there was absolutely amazing, in this episode the mood shifted a bit but not in a ridiculous way, i feel like somethig terrible is gonna happen
Jul 8, 2019 4:35 AM

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Very nice episode seem like an very interesting show so far. I really like the charracters, and the sword that Throfin found was very pretty.
Jul 8, 2019 4:44 AM

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Second episode review

This episode was more a clam and philosophical compared to the previous one.

Floki makes his entrance,his is already to his schemes

And finally Askeladd appears






Jul 8, 2019 4:46 AM

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Imo, it looks like the death flag has been raised for Thorfinn's father.


I can't imagine Episode 2 is up already.
Jul 8, 2019 6:37 AM

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I'm in love with this show. The plot seems very strong so far. I hope the whole adaptation turns out great.
Jul 8, 2019 9:51 AM

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Another fantastic episode. I could feel the atmosphere of the North.

Kids playing around were funny, especially when Thorfinn cheated and attack them even after he lost.

Floki seemed to be a cool guy and talented warrior 15 years ago. Now he is emotionless and tough Jomsviking who wants to hire an assassin to order him to kill Thors. :(
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Jul 8, 2019 9:53 AM
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Adnash93 said:
Another fantastic episode. I could feel the atmosphere of the North.

Kids playing around were funny, especially when Thorfinn cheated and attack them even after he lost.

Floki seemed to be a cool guy and talented warrior 15 years ago. Now he is emotionless and tough Jomsviking who wants to hire an assassin to order him to kill Thors. :(



That cool guy 15 years ago is Thorkell, a different character :)
Jul 8, 2019 10:06 AM
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The only quibble I have with this series is that the Christian monk IRL would not beg for his life. For monks of that era, martyrdom was a great honor.


Is that true for all of them in action as well or is that how they generally wanted to be portrayed? How many actually went through with it? You can brainwash people with whatever to make them not fear death, but it doesn't seem like something that is that hard to abandon when in a pinch. And this isn't even on the level of brainwashing.

Dying a martyr is probably nice, but dying a martyr without anyone knowing is probably not. Dying a martyr might be nice, but not dying at all would be better.
Jul 8, 2019 10:18 AM
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Don't go Thors It is Floki's trap
Jul 8, 2019 10:35 AM

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That cool guy 15 years ago is Thorkell, a different character :)

Really? Good to know. Dunno why I mistook him for Thorkell. Maybe because I watched ep. 1 lately at night, lol. Thanks for giving a clarification. :)
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Jul 8, 2019 11:59 AM

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Didn't remember this trap was going to happen so early in the story. And yey, Askeladd's introduction at last. Another great episode with a ton of impact for the rest of the plot.
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Jul 8, 2019 1:29 PM

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Why Thors?!?!?! His son is kinda too much irritating me althought i've hope that it would change
Next ep is going to be kinda bloodyyyy
Jul 8, 2019 2:42 PM
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How goddamn naive everyone in that village is, thinking war will be all flowers and fun.. I presume he's making those guys attack Thor in order to test Thor? To see whether he's going to be able to fight after his long hiatus?
Jul 8, 2019 3:57 PM

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Koustubh said:
Damn! That was a better episode, compared to the previous one, but still lacking in any fighting or brutality. Also, the animation was top notch, as usual. Let's hope that there'll be some fighting in the next episode. 4/5

Welp clearly this anime has something to teach you I guess haha (manga reader there :3)
Jul 8, 2019 5:07 PM
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Those villagers sure are excited about the upcoming war, and oooppppsss, they dont know Floki has a big plan--- and its a trap to Thorr and his men... ohh no!!! Lets see the next episode
Jul 8, 2019 5:46 PM

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Those naive kids have no idea how horrible war is.
Jul 8, 2019 8:10 PM

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so happy to see my boy Askeladd animated. I love the voice they have chosen for him,it suits him so much
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Jul 9, 2019 1:01 AM

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Viking invasion of England, jomsvikings, so this anime will be not just "historical", but really based on real historical events? In any case, I adore European history, so I'm on board.

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Those naive kids have no idea how horrible war is.


Well, for the people of that time, war was a normal part of life. However, this doesn't negate that the guys go to war as if they are going fishing with their dad.
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Koustubh said:
Damn! That was a better episode, compared to the previous one, but still lacking in any fighting or brutality. Also, the animation was top notch, as usual. Let's hope that there'll be some fighting in the next episode. 4/5

Welp clearly this anime has something to teach you I guess haha (manga reader there :3)


I see. Well the character development is clearly shown in the opening. So I think that it's going to build up and escalate to a new level.
Jul 9, 2019 3:43 AM

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Twas a good episode. Goddamn Floki, scheming against a man as great as Thors.



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Jul 9, 2019 5:13 AM

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That's some good old English tactics, kill them while their pants are down.
Is it weird that I'm rooting for the English even though they are clearly the villains?
Jul 9, 2019 6:23 AM

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I can see the bara artists going crazy with that first scene.. too bad really, such good looking men.

Other than that, damn this was such a refined episode.. I love the series already. Also the OP gives me the goddamn chills everytime I listen to it.
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Jul 9, 2019 11:11 AM

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Floki garbage as always, thankfully Askeladd was there to cleanse my eyes.
Jul 9, 2019 4:07 PM

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I've never read the manga so this is only based off the episodes that have currently aired.

Askeladd seems like he's going to be an interesting character.

I'm also starting to get some Berserk vibes from this, they're very subtle but they're definitely there.
Jul 9, 2019 8:41 PM

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This episode seemed more lighthearted, but imo it was darker than the first, it was just subliminal. It felt like the calm before the storm, developing the conflicting ideologies of Thorr and everyone from his past, while also presenting a nice bit of character development for Thorfinn. This is probably my most looked-forward-to anime of the season.

We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths.
As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are.
That's what death is, don't you think?


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Jul 9, 2019 10:37 PM

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Rest in peace Thorfinn. You died pretty fast. Props to Faxi for holding that sword in his dead hand like a trooper. So Leif is a Christian. Will he be killed by that Askeladd guy who hates Christians? I love the raw fury Thors is radiating. It sucks that Thors had to make that kind of decision, and Floki is an asshole for pushing Thors in the first place, but in the end, I think Thors made the right decision. How did they figure out where Thors was in the first place? These guys are way too excited to get massacred in a war. Thorfinn knocking the guy out cold with the sword was funny. I liked the attention to detail with his bloody nose. Thors just grabbed that razor-sharp blade and didn't even flinch. What a badass. Wonder what Floki's motivation is, for killing Thors. Maybe to get back at him for deserting? Just seems like a waste of time and money to track Thors down only down to off him.
Jul 10, 2019 4:17 AM
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Ah, Thors. What a good man. I'm so sorry from him.
I get that feeling back when his character stood out for me at the starter chapters of the manga. He really is my favorite.

Jomsvikings sure look like a badass bunch of soldiers.
I like that ominous aura they give staring and standing firm without a slight flinch.
Damn chills.

The scene of Thorfinn pulling out the sword and dazing on it gave me some sad, tragic feeling.
Jul 10, 2019 8:06 AM
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Although the MAL description has spoilers itself, the pacing of these early episodes showcase remarkable storytelling aspects.
I'm glad the anime adaptation started the show this way instead of littering the rest of the show with flashbacks; this has made a connection with the characters much more genuine compared to some of the other shounen from this season *cough* Fire Force *cough*

These kids are vying to get into war but haven't seen a single day of struggle in their lives.
It will be interesting to see if they can withstand the brutalities of war (though very unlikely)
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Welp, don't know why I thought Thorfinn was the guy at the end of episode 1. I hope Floki dies. Anyways, I love the way the story is being told in the anime. Don't know if it is similar to the manga? Can't wait to see the war. The kids were so adorable.

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Jul 10, 2019 6:57 PM

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The pacing overall is pretty great and I think it was the best deciosion to start the series with the flashbacks. Fits better in terms of storytelling and how Thorfinn's character is developing.


I decided to keep watching the show just for the pacing. I was really good in deed.


PS: Still dont know why Thors is sort of a saint.
Jul 10, 2019 11:11 PM

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Those guys have no clue what war is really like...

Massive death flags for Thors at the end.
Jul 11, 2019 5:40 AM

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I don't think Askeladd's voice matches his appearance (I haven't read the manga).
Jul 11, 2019 6:32 AM

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Very good episode. They fixed most mistakes. The only think still bothering me is that so many seem to wear mail.Or is it just gambeson poorly drawn?
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