Over the weekend, the YouTube star Logan Paul (older brother of Jake Paul) visited Aokigahara, a forest on the slopes of Mt. Fuji in Japan also known as the “suicide forest” for its status as a site of hundreds of suicides. While there, Paul seems to have filmed the body of a person who had hanged himself from a tree, and then posted the footage to YouTube with the title “We found a dead body in the Japanese Suicide Forest…” (Note: the video contains footage of a dead body.) source This is why I fucking hate the internet sometimes. Edit: I should probably clarify why I made this thread 1) I feel disgusted and would like to discuss it. 2)This isn't to say "the Pauls did another bad thing lol", it's to talk about what is and isn't ethical/moral and how people today complete disregard that. |
ZionPulseJan 1, 2018 8:15 PM
I'm a shitposter for fun |
| bystander effect at work. i hate the bystander effect. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
| And who exactly are these people? |
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| Stop talking about him. |
  Crying doesn't mean you're weak. Enduring doesn't mean you're strong. |
| He just single-handedly ruined his entire fucking career |
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| While not illegal, that's just dumb and could get them demonetized. |
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| i don't know why y'all still try when any of your hate gets deflected away by a single dab |
  𝚖𝚊𝚕'𝚜 𝙳𝙴𝚃𝙴𝙲𝚃𝙸𝚅𝙴 𝚛𝚊𝚌𝚌𝚘𝚘𝚗 𝙳𝙴𝚃𝙴𝙲𝚃𝙸𝚅𝙴 𝚋𝚘𝚘𝚙 ! 𝚒 𝚠𝚒𝚕𝚕 𝚌𝚊𝚝𝚌𝚑 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚌𝚢𝚋𝚎𝚛 𝚛𝚊𝚌𝚌𝚘𝚘𝚗 ! |
| Logan and Jake are already annoying fuckbois but goddamn, not even once of decency in him. gg Logan. I hope this kills his career. (of course it will not tho because 12 years old thinks hes a modafockin savage and will fuel his fame) |
STOP SLEEPING ON ODD TAXI |
| this worries me about the slight possibility of the current generation of kids becoming as near-sociopath and retarded as jake and logan paul. pewdiepie was a much better role model for kids. the current crop of youtubers just have no common sense and from this video, they apparently don't understand the concept of sympathy. |
YomiyukiJan 1, 2018 9:18 PM
 Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places But we're trash, you and me We're the litter on the breeze We're the lovers on the streets Just trash, me and you It's in everything we do It's in everything we do |
Seiya said: And who exactly are these people? this was going to be my next question |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
| ... Go fucking figure. |
| Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
| Stuff like this should earn an immediate and permanent ban from entering Japan. |
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| People are making a bigger deal out of it than they should tbh. |
   I envy your delusion; I wish I could live in it  |
| For anyone that wants the part of the video where he finds it. |
| I didn't watch the actual video nor will I seek it out. I did see the reaction on twitter, upon finding the body the first reaction him and his friends had was to smile. That to me is more fucked up than anything. |
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| Will be super interested to watch the new generation of sociopaths take on the current generation of hyper sensitives. It will be a massacre.... |
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| I assume you watched said video and continue to watch his content just to complain. Smart. |
nicethings said: The Japanese don't hate Americans though.and disrespectful idiots like these two are why the Japanese hate us Americans |
| How're you going to crack a smile after seeing a dead body? Yikes. |
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| I had a video recommended to me on YouTube about it, but I don't generally watch drama videos, and I didn't want to run the risk of seeing something I didn't want to (i.e. a dead body). I've been largely ignoring the Pauls since I find them irritating and I choose to ignore most irritating things, but there's nothing okay about this. Many of their fans are very young, for starters, and exposing them to footage like that in the name of entertainment is incredibly irresponsible. Don't even get me started on what's wrong with recording the footage and posting it anywhere in the first place. While I don't wish specific ill-will toward them, I do hope there are repercussions for their actions and that they actually learn from it. |
| People like to bandwagon. |
I don't know, maybe filming a video of a dead person who committed suicide to his young and impressionable fanbase and MONETIZING THE VIDEO isn't all that bad. Just mindless bandwagoning, amiright? |
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BaneofKermit said: I don't know, maybe filming a video of a dead person who committed suicide to his young and impressionable fanbase and MONETIZING THE VIDEO isn't all that bad. Just mindless bandwagoning, amiright? All I'm saying is that he's been getting waves of hate for various reasons and everybody always hones in on his actions lately. I can't seem to escape the hate for either of them since everybody hops on. Overall I heard he said he demonetised and also took it down, but I'm not denying he's a bit of an idiot, shouldn't have put the person in the thumbnail and tried to use them for views, and would have been better off just cutting the video short with an understandable explanation of the situation instead of including it all in the video. |
Pencoe said: BaneofKermit said: I don't know, maybe filming a video of a dead person who committed suicide to his young and impressionable fanbase and MONETIZING THE VIDEO isn't all that bad. Just mindless bandwagoning, amiright? All I'm saying is that he's been getting waves of hate for various reasons and everybody always hones in on his actions lately. I can't seem to escape the hate for either of them since everybody hops on. Overall I heard he said he demonetised and also took it down, but I'm not denying he's a bit of an idiot, shouldn't have put the person in the thumbnail and tried to use them for views, and would have been better off just cutting the video short with an understandable explanation of the situation instead of including it all in the video. Obviously, there are always going to be people who feed off of negativity and go overboard with this kind of stuff, and I agree that he should have just stopped recording as soon as he saw the dead body and coupled it with a short explanation. |
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BaneofKermit said: Negative attention is better than none, as experience shows.I don't know, maybe filming a video of a dead person who committed suicide to his young and impressionable fanbase and MONETIZING THE VIDEO isn't all that bad. Just mindless bandwagoning, amiright? The point is that he's still very relevant, largely due to people disliking him. Making videos or threads about him in any light draws people to him. There are much better ways. |
| Let's not forget all these youtubers who are going to make a monetized video about him filming a dead person and monetizing it. #hypocrisy |
| Ok how stupid can he i think why would you even upload it you Youtube oh i know he wonted views and laughing about it after hes just a disrespectful fuck i cant wait for the back lash he gets everyones going to rip him apart but i think PewDiePie sumed up Logan Pauls thoughts while makeing that video perfectly on twitter |
| They never redeemed themselves if I remember correctly. Lying ✔ Cheating ✔ Objectification of women ✔ Racism ✔ Using Make-A-Wish foundation for self-gratulation in one of their "country" songs ✔ Breaking laws ✔ |
| キターーーー(・∀・)ーーー！！ |
| Don't know anything about these guys other than their names being thrown around negatively. Looks like a typical trashy celebrity that's popular for no reason. I'm sure there's a lot of deeply uhhfended people who will take advantage of his popularity for clicks though. |
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| When you make the internet sided with PewDiePie in 2017, you know you done fucked up. |
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| Why haven’t the Logan brothers been banned from Youtube yet |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| What did you expect from the Pauls... |
    バカ I'm not smart, I just wear glasses "Anime is just Japanese Cartoons, Cartoons are just Western Anime" ☁ н є ѕ ι т α т ι σ и ☁ |
| I am fairly certain that many people would respond similarly when stumbling upon a situation like this. It is something entirely unexpected and sudden, and many an individual's initial coping mechanism would be nervousness – laughing and excitement are very, very common. I even daresay that the overwrought versus the exciting reactions might be divided halfway through. I know from myself that I would likely react in a similar way. I am fairly interested in human psychology and what drives people to commit an act of suicide in different ways. And yes, I am quite aware; I have been facing depression for the past fifteen years, it simply acts differently for everyone. Many people feel little empathy for complete strangers, however it might seem like this particular group is smaller than those of the 'correct' way of showing emotion and empathy toward others. We simply do not voice our thoughts that often because we are viewed as 'incorrect'. I know many people in my surroundings for instance who feel absolutely nothing and even laugh at television commercials of Unicef or other third world country organisations – images of starving and emaciated children covered in flies does nothing to them. I cannot say this behaviour is wrong. Not everybody is the perfect embodiment of empathy. |
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| i am glad that i am ignorance about them.... Lestat- said: I am fairly certain that many people would respond similarly when stumbling upon a situation like this. It is something entirely unexpected and sudden, and many an individual's initial coping mechanism would be nervousness – laughing and excitement are very, very common. I even daresay that the overwrought versus the exciting reactions might be divided halfway through. I know from myself that I would likely react in a similar way. I am fairly interested in human psychology and what drives people to commit an act of suicide in different ways. And yes, I am quite aware; I have been facing depression for the past fifteen years, it simply acts differently for everyone. Many people feel little empathy for complete strangers, however it might seem like this particular group is smaller than those of the 'correct' way of showing emotion and empathy toward others. We simply do not voice our thoughts that often because we are viewed as 'incorrect'. I know many people in my surroundings for instance who feel absolutely nothing and even laugh at television commercials of Unicef or other third world country organisations – images of starving and emaciated children covered in flies does nothing to them. I cannot say this behaviour is wrong. Not everybody is the perfect embodiment of empathy. he is fully aware of it, taking hours to edit it, and put it as fucking tumbnail then upload it to youtube... talking about initial reaction... he is fully aware about what he was doing, but somewhat too late realizing consequence what he was doing and retreated... as nihilist as i am, i found it hugly disrespectful, especially to the people who still alive... genuinly, i am laugh at this all too, but i don't be open about it... i would laugh harder if it's all fake.... |
KumaJan 2, 2018 6:30 AM
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| YouTube's vlogging community is shit. 149597871 said: That's not hypocrisy. Hypocrisy requires equivalence. You can question whether it's ethical to give the Pauls any coverage (I'd never heard of them until this thread and I plan to forget), but denouncing their sociopathy is not equivalent to being a sociopath, even if those people seem to be indirectly profiting from the same event. They are actually profiting from a different event (the Pauls video) and with completely different intentions/outcomes (denounce sociopathy/reduce the acceptability of sociopathy). Let's not forget all these youtubers who are going to make a monetized video about him filming a dead person and monetizing it. #hypocrisy Even though we know that mass shooters generally crave attention, media outlets aren't hypocrites for denouncing them while giving them attention. Misguided, maybe, but intentions matter. |
JoshJan 2, 2018 7:39 AM
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| I don't know if I can say anything about this that hasn't been said, but I'm very disgusted and disappointed and I just want to let it out... It was so disrespectful of Logan Paul to just show a dead body like that. It doesn't matter how much you censor it, that is awful!! I dearly wish that Logan would learn his lesson, but I know that's not going to happen, he's probably gaining even more views because of this drama, and I bet he's enjoying every second of this. I hate the Pauls from the bottom of my heart... |
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Hoppy said: While not illegal, that's just dumb and could get them demonetized. The showing of the body might not, but they entered a restricted area, and that might be illegal, depending on what the Japanese authorities plan on doing with this violation. Guess I'm glad this is the first (and hopefully last) time I've heard of these people. |
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| Woah, for a moment I thought this would be about Ron & Rand Paul or something. But appearently it's just about some guys who think they can rap even though they can't. Jake Paul said when it comes to overcoming his youtube rivials that "pewdiepie is next", but that only seems to be the case in terms of most-disliked-video ranking, as pewdiepie has shown us. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-disliked_YouTube_videos Still what Logan Paul did seems quite distasteful. |
Grey-ZoneJan 2, 2018 11:31 AM
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Well at least YT's Top Trending has a sense of humor: |
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How so? Do you actually know what he did? |
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code said: BaneofKermit said: Negative attention is better than none, as experience shows.I don't know, maybe filming a video of a dead person who committed suicide to his young and impressionable fanbase and MONETIZING THE VIDEO isn't all that bad. Just mindless bandwagoning, amiright? The point is that he's still very relevant, largely due to people disliking him. Making videos or threads about him in any light draws people to him. There are much better ways. Talking about it, even if it does give him more fame, is better than just ignoring it. |
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| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFmSepfF48o I liked what Pewdiepie had to say about this whole thing "I always knew Logan Paul was a jackass, so I really wasn't surprised by the fact that once Logan Paul found a dead body, that he acted like a jackass" I agree with everything he says in the last 6 minutes of this video. |
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| None of you really actually care anyway since none of you knew the person who killed themselves. |
| The best way to deal with attention whores is to ignore them, rather than making scandalized thread about them so that more peoples know them, talk about them, and watch them. So attention whores are always thankful toward peoples like OP. They do exactly what they want. |
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