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Apr 26, 2009 4:44 AM
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Another great episode.

Aug 31, 2009 7:40 AM
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I've been looking forward to meeting this character. I really like the entire battle scene.
Nov 14, 2010 4:18 PM
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Ahh, I couldn't stop laughing at Ruka's hair.

I dislike Shiori more and more each time she appears. Poor Jury =[
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Apr 11, 2011 5:32 PM
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Couldn't help but notice that Ruka is the exact same person as Touga, Saionji, and Akio when they were introduced. Actually he might be the same as every single male except Miki, and even Miki was allowed the legions of anonymous robot fangirls who reappear to worship only the latest guy.

Otherwise, it was the same recent fight replayed with different characters, and by different I mean recycles from the earlier Shiori-Jury episode. I've been led to believe that the series gets very good in the final stretch; hopefully it's worth grinding through the most formulaic stuff since Inuyasha
Jul 9, 2011 7:09 PM
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Good stuff. This guy is intriguing.
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Aug 9, 2011 3:00 PM
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So, that's what happens when you polish the sword of the wrong guy.
Nov 1, 2011 7:42 PM
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I don't understand why Jury's so obsessed with Shiori. Shiori's such a horrible person in every way. That obsession makes Jury herself quite frustrating at times.

Ruka's hair really is hilarious :3

Renato said:
So, that's what happens when you polish the sword of the wrong guy.
I'm pretty sure Ruka was implying that no one actually polished his sword and his sword was still dirty, but upon hearing his story Shiori pretended it was her.
May 2, 2012 3:39 PM
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After the long illness Ruka is probably used to polishing his own sword and doesn't need Shiori to do it for him.

At this point I wish the show focused more on the characters we already know instead of always introducing new ones for a short fight.
Jun 9, 2012 4:50 PM
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Well, this episode was alright. I really don't like Shiori, heh.
Dec 13, 2012 3:30 PM
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Another useless character added for one fight. Hopefully he adds a bit more to the story as it goes along and doesn't just end up being someone added in to complete the Red/Green/Blue haired versions of the exact same person.

I also find it a bit ridiculous how every male character has every single girl in the universe swoon over them. Are men so scarce in their world that almost every man is super popular?!
Jan 28, 2013 12:39 PM

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I loved this episode. It was nice to see karma make Shiori its bitch.
Feb 8, 2013 1:59 PM

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Didn't care for this episode at all. They pulled a random character out of the hat, continued with the repetitive plot, and didn't really accomplish much of anything with the episode. I can't help but feel like the series is starting to lose steam, and my interest is starting to crumble.
Mar 6, 2013 1:41 AM

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I liked this episode a lot, actually.
I think I take back not like Juri as much... Her relationship with Shiori is complex. I don't like Shiori at all though.

I mean, how far do you think "polishing swords" everyday will get you?
It doesn't work for most girls, especially in the respect department.

Jul 18, 2013 8:32 PM
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Didn't care for this episode at all. They pulled a random character out of the hat, continued with the repetitive plot, and didn't really accomplish much of anything with the episode. I can't help but feel like the series is starting to lose steam, and my interest is starting to crumble.

agreed. this arc started out intriguing until the cars came. then it reverted to a progression not unlike a videogame, where you have to collect an arbitrary number of plot tokens or beat a certain number of guys to continue. i think it works alright in videogames, but i'm less appreciative of it in anime.

also, this seems like a weird way to render the ocean

Sep 21, 2013 3:43 AM

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How could he still be good at fencing if he had an illness? I mean, if he had to quit school he probably couldn't get any practice. But that was just an excuse to introduce a new dueling character ...
Jun 2, 2014 10:42 PM

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MaxVdub said:
lordzeru said:


also, this seems like a weird way to render the ocean



That's the fricking ocean? WELP
Oct 28, 2014 3:43 AM
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I would've liked this episode if the new character actually beat Utena in the duel, lol. Honestly. It would've spiced things up a bit.
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Jan 20, 2015 10:01 AM

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Ruka has been added to the asshole list.
Mar 20, 2015 7:16 PM

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I love Juri's character so I enjoy her episodes a lot. it's also interesting how she has to compete with a guy for a girl she likes, what a refreshing love triangle lol


those car rides never fail to make me laugh, that random shirt opening is a true skill

Ruka is an interesting character, I wonder what he's after
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Sep 28, 2015 9:15 AM

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Shiori is a stalker.

4/5
Feb 17, 2016 3:17 PM

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Ugh, can we just get rid of Shiori already? Everytime she appears, she sucks all the coolness out of Juri. I guess that's what love does to you but still...
Feb 17, 2016 3:20 PM

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Ugh, can we just get rid of Shiori already? Everytime she appears, she sucks all the coolness out of Juri. I guess that's what love does to you but still...


Stop hating on Shiori :(. It's safe to say that it isn't her choice if she's homophobic at that age.
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Feb 18, 2016 8:54 AM

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Clebardman said:
Kryptiq said:
Ugh, can we just get rid of Shiori already? Everytime she appears, she sucks all the coolness out of Juri. I guess that's what love does to you but still...


Stop hating on Shiori :(. It's safe to say that it isn't her choice if she's homophobic at that age.

Can't help it, everytime she's on screen she keeps making my baby Juri look bad lol.
Feb 18, 2016 9:08 AM

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Kryptiq said:
Clebardman said:


Stop hating on Shiori :(. It's safe to say that it isn't her choice if she's homophobic at that age.

Can't help it, everytime she's on screen she keeps making my baby Juri look bad lol.


Juri best grill and best swordwoman, obviously. :p.
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Clebardman said:
Kryptiq said:

Can't help it, everytime she's on screen she keeps making my baby Juri look bad lol.


Juri best grill and best swordwoman, obviously. :p.

Indeed she is.
Her fight against Utena in episode 7 still remains my fav.
Jul 1, 2016 9:23 PM

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I liked this episode, but I did kind of think Ruka was sort of pushing it as a character. He'd been mentioned in both of Jury's previous episodes, but we have never actually seen him before so having him just show up, grab a rose, and start dueling was a little...jarring. I think the show pulled it off because for me this show can do no wrong, but I remember specifically feeling in the scene where talks about the End of the World's disappointment with the student council thinking "that was fast."

That being said not much real advancement was made in Jury's story this time, I wouldn't be surprised if based on the preview she isn't a little more in focus next episode but she really wasn't in the episode that much and was pretty much the same as she's always been throughout. I did really enjoy her meeting with Ruka though, it showed a lot of history between two characters with very little effort.

I think part of what makes Jury's lack of progress, so frustrating here is that it's also where we see how completely irredeemable Shiori is. We already saw her nasty side during the Black Rose Arc, but the ending twist that Ruka's sword polishing thing was a lie she had gone along with really just shined a spotlight on how awful Shiori's personality is. I think it's cool Jury is yet another lesbian, but it's frustrating the object of the love that defines her character is so callow and spiteful.

I did find it interesting, in this go round our duelist was already indoctrinated to Akio's train of thought. He actually persuades Shiori to be his Rose Bride which was a first, and I found it interesting too how he seemed very familiar with the world of the Duelists. His assertion that his failure was due to a bad rose bride showed he's had some experience with this.

I felt that for me, this is where the repetition of the car scenes started to reach power level. "If you're heart still hasn't given up hope, you can still here it racing down the highway of the end of the world." I love it. Curious how much longer it will go on.
Jul 17, 2016 6:55 PM

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Well another male to add to the fluttering open shirt drinking game.
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Aug 3, 2016 8:44 PM

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Shiori is a bitch. I hope she dies.
May 2, 2017 8:03 PM

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ruka is a very interesting character
May 31, 2017 2:11 AM
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Ruka is pretty much Touga 2.0.
Aug 14, 2017 10:19 AM

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An important question: Why is Juri still in love with Shiori? Shiori is not a good person, and it hurts me to see Juri in pain/emotional agony.

The car scene in this episode was downright pornographic. They've been subtle up until this point, but hands on bare chests, close-ups on their moaning faces, "Don't you love the throb of the engine?"...how did this air at a children's timeslot in Japan?
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Aug 16, 2017 8:23 AM
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Everyone continues to enjoy hurting Jury.

Guy who I never heard even mention before is the duellist this time. Not even sure what he is fighting for. At least Shiori not heeding Jury's warning had consequences I guess.

And Akio continues to look like an idiot. Touga isn't much better in front of the fountain.
Sep 10, 2017 4:24 AM

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A very relevant and educational video


Clebardman said:
Kryptiq said:
Ugh, can we just get rid of Shiori already? Everytime she appears, she sucks all the coolness out of Juri. I guess that's what love does to you but still...

Stop hating on Shiori :(. It's safe to say that it isn't her choice if she's homophobic at that age.

What are you talking about? We hate Shiori because she takes enjoyment in Jury's misery, not because of her political opinions lol
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Ruka is strange one, compared to rest fighters so far there is something sinister on him. Finally Shiori got right back to her, after all that sadness she caused. I actually like Juri and her style on that nice suit, she should forget Shiori already...
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So, this episode wasn't about Juri but rather about this Ruka guy. She's going to have her spotlight next episode anyways.
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Shiori, when are you going to die or smth? So much hate for her, i feel so sorry for Juri.
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Oct 4, 2018 11:34 PM

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Stupid Shiori.

I kinda feel the show is spinning its wheels lately, despite the bare chested sex car/vertical drift awesomeness, since not much is really being added, like what did we learn new of substance about Miki and Kozue in episode 26, or Saionji's nonsense back in episode 24?

Maybe this next episode will pick things up by refocusing on Juri.
Jan 20, 2019 12:57 PM

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What the heck even Ruka's deal is? It didn't seem like he wanted to win with Utena badly, or anything.

And why is Jury still not over Shiori? She's such a terrible person...
May 30, 2019 3:39 AM

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I just noticed some phallic symbolism in the OP. When Utena walks among the boys (underlining her tomboyish nature), there's this phallic tower in the background, and when the OP cuts to Anthy walking among the girls (underlining her womanhood), there's a wide gate in the background. I wonder if I'm imagining things. Or is this a real metaphor for you-know-what?

This episode's duel song was...weird. With lyrics about hermaphroditism o.o
Jul 13, 2019 4:38 PM

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St0rmblade said:
I just noticed some phallic symbolism in the OP. When Utena walks among the boys (underlining her tomboyish nature), there's this phallic tower in the background, and when the OP cuts to Anthy walking among the girls (underlining her womanhood), there's a wide gate in the background. I wonder if I'm imagining things. Or is this a real metaphor for you-know-what?

This episode's duel song was...weird. With lyrics about hermaphroditism o.o


This OP will never be the same to me....
Aug 9, 2020 5:56 AM
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Hmm so Shiori was polishing his sword...
Nice way to say she gave him a handjob 🙊🙊
Oct 14, 2020 7:37 PM

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Amazing episode :)

Not gonna lie, I thought Ruka was the boy Shiori liked and came back.

Seems it's another different character altogether.

And his voice. I thought he was some sort of live action actor, but it turns out it's the same VA that did Yusuke (Sasaki, Nozomu) from Yu Yu Hakusho!

WTF! He doesn't sound like him! Which makes him so good :D

It seems this is the first time the bride had inadvertently turned the tide of the duel. jk, This happened so many times with Anthy. This is the first on the opponent side though.

Still, I'm surprised they are continuing this arc. I thought he would just be a one time thing.

Can't wait!!
Jan 16, 2021 2:55 PM
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the car scenes are the greatest things ever

i want to be driven in akios car :(
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Another Juri episode that had almost nothing to do with Juri herself this time.

Let's see: another playboy character was introduced out of the blue just for the sake of more forced drama and Shiori, who was already established to be quite the bitch, somehow managed to become even more unbearable this time. I'm so tired of all these side characters, honestly.
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LeeTailor said:
A very relevant and educational video


Clebardman said:

Stop hating on Shiori :(. It's safe to say that it isn't her choice if she's homophobic at that age.

What are you talking about? We hate Shiori because she takes enjoyment in Jury's misery, not because of her political opinions lol


It’s not a political opinion wtf..? It’s literally basic human rights. There is no ‘opinion’ it’s basic principles of right and wrong. My sexuality is not a political opinion. Homophobia is wrong, full stop.
Mar 26, 2022 8:13 AM

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Don't like Shiori or the new guy, for one thing his hair is ridiculous but he's just kinda annoying lmao
May 18, 2022 2:31 PM

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This episode was a bit boring. I hoped we would learn something different about Shiori and Juri, but nope. Just a confirmation that Shiori is horrible and Juri is hopeless. The new guy was boring, he reminded me Toga but less interesting. The series in general is starting to get tiring with all its repetions and recycled animations and plot points... There are some plot points that are unecessary because they are repeated, for example we had enough incest with Nanami, we didn't need more with Miki's sister. Just how we didn't need now another asshole guy, Ruka. We already had Toga...
Jul 19, 2023 12:53 PM
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my poor sweet jury :(( shiori is never gonna love you </3 i need jury to find her a girl's girl asap and not someone who gets on sex cars with boys lmao
 
also loved these lyrics on the duel song
 
"i wil make the world androgynous! hermaphroditsm!" 

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I noticed a lot of people hating on Shiori but I think she's not that horrible or well, at least I think I understand her attitude. I think a lot of people are forgetting that these are TEENAGERS and teens dont really understand their own emotions and everything is a mess. I truly believe Shiori likes Juri but don't you all understand that at this time being anything other than a cisgender heterosexual person was not okay? Juri has accepted that she likes Shiori that way but I believe Shiori either doesn't realise she likes Juri that way or she does realize it but is obviously afraid of whatever consequences this may bring.

Obviously this does NOT excuse her terrible actions but it gives some insight to some of her thought process. Or at least I'm assuming this is what's happening with her, I could be totally wrong but these are my current thoughts.


That said... wtf did those two had car sex while Touga and Akio were right in the front seat??? girl byee 😭😭😭

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I noticed a lot of people hating on Shiori but I think she's not that horrible or well, at least I think I understand her attitude. I think a lot of people are forgetting that these are TEENAGERS and teens dont really understand their own emotions and everything is a mess. I truly believe Shiori likes Juri but don't you all understand that at this time being anything other than a cisgender heterosexual person was not okay? Juri has accepted that she likes Shiori that way but I believe Shiori either doesn't realise she likes Juri that way or she does realize it but is obviously afraid of whatever consequences this may bring.

Obviously this does NOT excuse her terrible actions but it gives some insight to some of her thought process. Or at least I'm assuming this is what's happening with her, I could be totally wrong but these are my current thoughts.


That said... wtf did those two had car sex while Touga and Akio were right in the front seat??? girl byee 😭😭😭
@smallest_moon The reason she isn't liked is because she is jealous of Juri to the point where she actively loves to cause her pain. Plus, when she's around, Juri is just pathetic and lovesick. If someone being around your favorite character, actively makes your favorite character worse, then wouldn't you want them to go away?
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