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| Naoko Yamada surely likes to focus on legs... not that I'm complaining tho. It was such a beautiful film, not the best anime-related movie I've watched but It still was pretty captivating. So the blue bird was Mizore all along! Honestly, I think it was a nice twist in the end that she wasn't Liz but the other way around. What's more, during the movie, it never came to my mind that Nozomi would be the one who caged Mizore. So it was a nice surpirse to discover that side of Nozomi's personality. That aside, I must also say that Mizore's solo was simply stunning. I knew she was good during the main series but man, she's incredible at what she does. And to think that she ONLY decided to play the Oboe just because she wanted to be with Nozomi in the first place... That said, I'm sure she'll definitely succeed if she chooses to become a professional. Overall, it was very nice movie, I really enjoyed it and I think it's a great addition to the Hibike franchise. And with that said, I'm really looking forward to the next film which will have Kumiko as the main character. 8/10 |
| I really loved the atmosphere in this movie which makes me wonder if the hibike series has a similar type of atmosphere/ost, if so I should get on that asap. |
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| I cried when their last play, I don't know why.. I'm metalhead but it is what it is... love it. The story's so relaxing, It made me fuwa fuwa, lol, and all VAs did their best job, thumbs up for yuri couple, Atsumi and Nao. Love u Kyoani, It's solid 9/10 |
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| @Moonhead Well, this is a normal situation for relationships, especially teenagers, when your best friend, especially the only one, is an incredibly cool person whom you admire and idealize. At the same time, you separately appreciate that this person is friends with you because he considers you interesting. I myself went through this somewhere in 13-14 years, so to some extent I understand the feelings of Mizore. On the other hand, we are talking about Japanese girls, so all the nuances of their relationship are melodramatized several times, and the dynamics is full of romantic metaphors right from the luggage of Class S. This was already the case in the first Euhpo season, where Kumiko's admiration for Reina was intentionally compared to "the boy's first love". Thus, I am still inclined to assume that this film is Yamada’s trademark combination of “S” relationships and a subtle study of various problems arising between adolescents. At the same time, attracting yuri fans was clearly one of the authors' goals, for example, the booklet directly referred to yuri fandom's memes, and official art traditionally depicted girls with very blatant romantic tropes. So, even if I generally believe that Yamada was not going to exploit qeerbaiting, I also believe that a significant part of this was an intentional fanservice. In any case, even if translators and anime fans finally understand that daisuki is rarely used for romance, and suki is not always used for romantic confessions, we still cannot find a good enough substitute for this. Including because any word you use will still be interpreted as subtext and romantic ambiguity. It would be easier not to use such a huge number of romantic metaphors in general, but it would be rather rude and offensive to try to change the culture of others because Western viewers have zero notions about the cultural context of what they watched. |
RobertBobertJan 9, 2019 3:28 AM
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| The movie was a bit rushed from my point of view but it was nice. I really did like Nozomi and Mizore from S2, especially Mizore since I could relate to a lot of parts of her story, but I kinda was expected something from Nozomi in this movie, since she literally did nothing but complain in the anime - but hey, she did the same in the movie and as Mizore pointed out, she's just insensitive. |
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| Not hard to tell Yamada directed this lol. Very beautiful little side story. I do like the new art style quite a bit. It was very similar to A silent Voice. I will say I like Kumiko's design a little more in the old style. Since the real sequel will also be a movie I'm guessing they'll stick with the same style. I gotta say the character animations were phenomenal. I swear no one can make characters feel so real with body language like Yamada and kyoto ani. Edit: Apparently there is a PV for the sequel movie and looks like it has the same art style. I guess the change here had something to do with Yamada being director. |
ProofByColorJan 25, 2019 9:30 PM
| You know, this is actually the first time I've seen something that's left me absolutely speechless. Like, I was watching this with a friend, and I was trying to talk as the film ended but my throat wouldn't let out. I absolutely can tell why a lot of other people would find this boring, this film isn't made for everyone. But like. I can finally understand why modern art continues to exist. It's niche as fuck and the majority of people are not going to like the outcome, but for the super super super small number of people who just "get it", it's perfect. |
| Beautiful visuals, crisp animation, solid OST, all the standard I expect from Kyo Ani. That being said, I wanted more. I think the pacing didn't help the story. The same could have been told with 20 minutes less. Its strange for me to write this because generally I'm a "slow burn" kind of guy, but here I do not think it helped. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Other than looking good, this movie was a waste of time. |
ProofByColor said: Edit: Apparently there is a PV for the sequel movie and looks like it has the same art style. I guess the change here had something to do with Yamada being director. I did not notice this, personally it seemed to me that the second film retains the style of the original series. |
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| It was ok. I watched it because some dude on YouTube said this was worth movie of the year. Night is Short, Walk on Girl was better than this. I still need to check out Maquia tho. I feel like this movie could have been put together in like 15 minutes. The meaning was so short and straightforward. I enjoyed more the story of the book illustration than the main characters interactions. |
| Everything is in favor of this film, starting with the story that manages to involve me and make me part of the story right away, because it is always convincing in every juncture. The rhythm will also be slow, but every moment is so well portrayed from the dialogues to the gestures that the characters perform. Finally we do not forget the great quality of the drawings and backgrounds, really good. The soundtrack and the ending are very catchy. Moreover, the fact that the plot is grafted into another already known as that of "Sound Euphonium", does not weigh the fact that it lasts relatively little. I think this film will appeal to everyone, to the vast majority of the public. I think the coupled director - scriptwriter, seen in the film "A Silent Voice", worked well this time too. For now, my vote is 9/10. |
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tottobennington said: Vi- said: eto.... this was... this was.... fine. something simple/normal that turned out to be over melodramatic and in the end "ok". And again another yuri bait. That's kyoani for u =P 6/10 For me it seems like you did not get the point Yamada separately said in an interview that the story and the film’s messages are fairly simple, but she deliberately made the story very subtle and metaphorical, respecting herself as an author and people as spectators. |
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| Where does one join the Ririka fan club? |
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| The story with Liz and the Blue Girl was far more interesting than the rest of the movie. I do liked Mizore's oboe solo. 7/10 |
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| 10/10 Love the movie Love Mizore |
| Oh my goodness... I have never been even remotely emotional to classical music ever in my life... That moment when Mizore sailed away on the oboe, i actually teared. Using Liz and the Blue Bird analogizing their relationship... At first it's presented as if Mizore is Liz because of her timidness, and Nozomi is the Blue Bird because of her outgoing nature, only to turn it around and show that Mizore is the that really soars... The dance back and forth of these two girls until, once Mizore realizing she is the Blue Bird, she comes straight back fulfilling Nozomi's happy end... The bird gets to fly, but they still get to be together. Absolutely beautiful heartwarming movie. Again, dumbfounded by Kyoani's genius, and it's ability to make me understand and feel classical music to a depth i never had before. Also how they have the actual playing of the instruments also acted befitting the narrative, is something that never bloody happens in anime. ps: Ririka was pretty adorable~ |
GenesisAriaMar 7, 2019 8:24 AM
❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power.  “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
MrAwesome2018 said: The story with Liz and the Blue Girl was far more interesting than the rest of the movie. I do liked Mizore's oboe solo. 7/10 I agree. I liked the little story of the blue bird and the music they played near the ending with Mizore's very emotional solo. IMO the main problem was that not a lot happened in the first half of the movie... if this would be a 1h movie it would have been better. Also 7/10 |
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| I want to say so many things about this movie... it is fairly simple, but when you fall in love with the characters from Euphonium, it's pretty hard to not get emotional about a well executed film. Believe when I say that I really disliked the two main characters from this movie during Euphonium season 2 beginnings. I felt like they were a drag, completely giving the show a side story that it didn't really need. I wanted to see more of the band, more drama between EVERYONE not just two of them, and these two had no good traits at all. Except the voices, maybe. Nao Toyama always does a great job. What really hit me during their arc was their backstory: a friendship built on kind of a weird love, but nonetheless, I understood Mizore's feelings toward Nozomi, and the arc ending felt a bit less awkward. The art already caught my eye. I feel like this kind of art would also have worked in previous seasons, but anyways, what's with the focus on footsteps? A slow start, but with a strong relation to Mizore, who cannot take her eyes off Nozomi, and that was really making me anxious and annoyed, because she was always jealous of the first year flutists. And THEN there is the other reason I loved this movie: Ririka Kenzaki, which I believe her voice actress made the best performance in this movie alone. I believe she was the kickstart that made Mizore transform from Liz into the blue bird. How she tried to become close to Mizore, and I thought that she was going to fail, but the change in Mizore was inminent. Maybe because she kept on reading liz' book from the library. Maybe not. And then of course, Nozomi feeling distant from Mizore after rehearsals. Now, I don't really know if Nozomi is worse than Mizore at playing her instrument, but I always thought of her as 'on par' with Mizore. Mizori is probably a musician genius thanks to Nozomi and her invitation to the school band back in Minami. That flashback was amazing: hands trembling on Mizore! When Mizori and Nozomi finally realize who they are in the book, the ending just gets even sadder. Watching both of them now follow different paths, one going keep practicing for music school and the other one, still going to school at 6AM, sitting at the library while practicing for college exams. That was such a strong sequence in contrast to the beginning of the movie, when both of them were still practicing at 6AM in the same room. Like, I am pretty sure that's a 'good bye' in my books. Even if Mizore is still clinging to her. Mizore's oboe solo was powerful enough to make me tear a bit. What a performance from the blue bird. Great work from Akio Matsuda once again on the soundtrack. Watched this yesterday, while not having internet, after a bad day. I really didn't want to watch it to be honest. Didn't want to watch a movie from my favorite show because I know the next movie will be the last content I will get from this story. Feels bad man. One can just hope for a third season, but... impossible things do exist. 8/10 |
| "Manga readers are annoying, all they do is complain or spoil the anime we discuss in an anime forum. They should really do their whining at manga forums." Stolen from Janethan23. Add in visual novel readers too |
| That was a beautiful movie, the visuals and animation were spectacular, Mizore and Nozomi's relationship was nice to watch. I think at the ending scene Nozomi went for a tight Hug |
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Moonhead said: I am pretty conflicted on this thing. In the end I chose to read it as: Mizore is full-on in love with Nozomi, but Nozomi just wants a really good friendship with her. I think this is a reading the movie supports very well, especially during the 'confession scene', where 'I love your oboe.' sounded like a polite rejection to Mizore's 'You are literally my everything.' The reason I am conflicted is because I got the very strong vibe that the team had strong differences on whether they wanted to frame Mizore's feelings as romantic or not. I personally feel that if you think staring at someone's nape longingly, cherishing small gifts like treasures, being unable to keep from smiling around them, looking at them incessantly, wanting to follow them to the ends of the earth, developing a tick that triggers when you think about them and desiring, and being anxious about, physical contact with them, together with the statement 'You are my everything.' means that you are really close friends with somebody, then you should see a shrink. While I was watching this, I was convinced that it was the director that was most strongly in favor of a romantic interpretation and that she was doing everything in her power to convince the viewer of her interpretation. After reading this thread it seems like I was wrong however and it was in fact unintended, even if it seemed blatant to me. In conclusion: I hate queer-baiting, but in the end this feels more like a story of a somewhat tragic unrequited love. PS: I don't think the regular series has queer-baiting or particularly strong yuri/shoujo ai undertones, with the possible exception of that almost-kiss on the hill that just seemed like a dumb decision on the writers' part. Just wanted to clarify that before people call me a yuri-fanboy. PPS: Subbers (including and in fact especially the people doing this professionally, like Crunchy) should stop translating 'dai suki' as 'love'. They are literally saying 'I really like you.' This can be a really weakly worded confession, but importantly, it sometimes just means that someone really likes you. There are expressions for loving someone and they are even used in this movie. 'Aishiteru' is a very clear expression of love and it is something people actually use. I don't understand why people have to interpret 'dai suki' as 'love' so consistently... @moonhead more important scene for me is the one when the teacher talked to mizore about the future and the feelings in her interpretation, there's a part where liz,from the story says "I love you but I can't cut your wings"; the word used in japanese was "aishiteru", like a romantic love confession, It all was from the mizore's perspective and imagination about their relationship, so, basically is a projection of her real feelings edit: also mizore is blue bird in the story, so, she wants to hear that "aishiteru" from nozomi |
DKN2038Apr 18, 2019 12:05 PM
| This was delicate, petite and light. Even relatable to a certain extent. Beautiful. |
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| I found it better than main series. Solid movie for me. |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| It was the story that wasn't needed to tell, the main series was enough. It was slow, boring and there really wasn't much substance to it. Then again, it was still nice, mainly thanks to intervowen fairytale. It was obvious Mizore is blue bird from the start and centering the movie on shy heroine who struggles to lead the story was certainly bad idea but at least it got its main idea out, although still a fairytale as most of the people are selfish being and their situation was very artificial. It worked but it was probably way too long for what it was. 6/10 |
| @DKN2038 Watch Marnie was there and Fruits Basket and you will hear the same word people say to their friends or children, lol. In modern Japanese, this word is used quite rarely, since the Japanese are gradually moving away from the "strong" words and aishiteru goes out of use as being considered excessively melodramatic. In any case, even if we close our eyes to the archaic nature of the play, you should remember that if we are not talking about words with a strict meaning like koi (sexually motivated love) or renai (romantic love), then the context is very important, not just word. Moreover, the fact that Mizore wanted to hear the words in this very wording is speculation. Her answer is "thank you?" suggests that she wanted to find out if she is also important for Nozomi, how she is for her, whether she loves her too. Given all this, she has already professed her love for her, using the more modern "suki". Whether it was romantic or just a platonic friendly confession, I leave it to your discretion, but but there is no talk about aishiteru in the “real world”. |
RobertBobertApr 25, 2019 8:41 AM
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| Finally got around to watching since I'm gonna see the Hibike movie the day after tomorrow. XD Gonna start of by saying, the production is incredible. The art was so pretty, the animation was smooth but most of all, what gets the most praise from me is the soundtrack. The soundtrack along with the stunning directing really made a lot of scenes very compelling. It's not really the type of content you'd expect to see in a movie though, it's slow, I wouldn't even call it dramatic, just slow and I guess melancholic. The entire tone of movie somehow felt very reflective to me, in the sense of self-reflection. Almost as if it's a story that Mizore is looking back on even though that's not the case. Somehow, it never struck me that Mizore could also be seen as the blue bird. Until the sensei told us. Not enough Reina screentime. :( The final practice session was incredible, I got chills listening to Mizore finally perform unrestrained by her feelings. Loved the final hug scene, kinda reminded me of Love Live Sunshine. XD Great movie overall, not a fan of how they changed Kumiko's hair art though. XD 8/10, Happy Ice Cream! |
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| I've always loved how music is used as a powerful tool of communication in the series. The climax here did not disappoint. |
| Very beautiful movie, I enjoyed this much more than the main series. Art, story, characters, music, it all hit me much harder. I'm glad I took the time to watch this, every moment was worth it. It was actually really refreshing seeing the regular series cast in this more grounded art style. I love how excellently they tied in the story of Liz and the Blue Bird with our two main girls, but turned it into the happy ending that they desired. I like to think these two most definitely stayed friends even while going to different schools. I was going to call this a 9, but thinking deep I have to give it a 10/10. The beautiful story and equally beautiful colours we see are wonderfully put together. The film staying so grounded without getting melodramatic really drives it home for me. |
| It wasn't bad I guess. Refreshing new art style for the side story. Also noticed that Yuko had a shorter haircut, looks good. I can't say I like Nozaki.. Now that I watched everything there is I can only wait for the translation of Movie 3.. I had a great time watching this series thx kyoani.. may you heal |
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| I feel silly for not realising this was connected with Hibike xD I was like wow these characters and uniforms seem really similar to Hibike then the conductor showed up and I was like oh it is haha. Beautiful movie and music though, very enjoyable just like all of the Hibike stuff. I don't think it's a romance though, just a girl whose really scared of losing her friend after school who she admires so much. |
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| Nice and comfy movie best thing is too fall asleep in the middle of it, I forced myself not to fall. I can say that it was a bit boring but good in a lot of other ways one of them being realistic to a great scale. that HUGGG I wanted some tears from Mizore though <333 7/10 |
| So we finally get the most popular side duo with their own lead roles. This duo was just too emotional to watch with the ups and downs in their relationship. As someone who could relate to Mizore, who was empty without any desires and goal to go on with. Someone like Nozomi leading the way was so much valuable to her that she could not move on without her. I've had similiar cases in which I could not move forward without the ones who gave me the purpose to go on. Though I've let them go on, without holding them back; I still am searching for that purpose in life. Took me long enough and the mood to watch this movie, I can say that this was on a soul salvation level. 9/10. |
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| I’ll start off by saying that I wholeheartedly believe that this is one of the few movies that is better received on a rewatch (or more). As such, I’ve completed this movie the day before yesterday in fact but I knew right after finishing it that I dearly needed another go at this and I couldn’t have been more correct. What seemed like a fairly boring but beautiful first few minutes on the first watch suddenly became an enchanting and a very pleasant entrance on the next try and there’s aplenty more such instances throughout the movie, for starters. To add to this, the intertwining between the two stories really hit it off with me on the second try, more so than the first, and I’m just left amazed by how wonderfully it’s done to inform us of the feelings that the two go through during certain phases of the movie and the sort. Directing was exemplary throughout the movie and I was really stunned by how genuinely and realistically the feelings were conveyed through the subtle body movements in particular! Many would argue it was simply to increase the time slot and while that’s not entirely incorrect considering at least 20-30 minutes of the movie (throughout the first 6-8 minutes of the movie in fact) featured that, I believe it had a greater importance in acclimatising us, the viewers, to the two main lead characters and have a feel for their mindset. And then adding the Liz & the Blue Bird’s story to the mix to fill us in during the different phases and illustrate the mental growth of these Characters, it really is a very touching and empathising story thus. Another aspect that the show really excelled in was in its highly proficient use of ‘noise’. Footsteps, tapping, opening and closing lockers, bags bouncing off the backs, setting up the instruments and so much more of the usual ‘noises’ just gave this story so much more of a realistic feel to it, in my opinion. I’ve never been this amazed by simple noises in my life xD and that just goes to show how resounding this was almost as if you’ve been literally sucked in to the stories’ world. Moreover, the smooth and gorgeous animation really elevated this a dozen more times! Thank you KyoAni, as always! Koe no Katachi, my favourite anime of all time, featured both Yamada Naoka and Ushio Kensuke too so it’s a company that I’ve fallen in love with since late 2016/early 2017 and seeing this combo reach great heights again was a real treat! I hope to see more of their collaboration works in the near future! Moving on, the Character Designs in this show with the enlarged necks and a new touch of pure-ness to the characters is a mixed feeling for me, in all honesty. Instead of Nozomi, Mizore and Ririka, the others, in particular Kumiko, felt like a downgrade if anything. However, I must say that those three that I mentioned above was really a great choice and overall therefore worth it. Got to say though, this is really not what you’d expect from a movie. But we all know how Yamada Naoko is so fond of experimenting and I’ll always be down for more of such kind of slow and self-reflection movies! ——————————————————————————— Now then, on to the (inside of the) movie! Lots of romantic hints and to be frankly honest I feel like there was a bit of exaggeration involved, admittedly, for it to be a simple friend-saviour relationship but keeping that aside the character explorations from both sides were incredible simply put. Also, a little sad that Ririka who was really making an impression on me for being such a sweetheart was casted aside during the second half and that Kumiko/Reina didn't get enough screentime. Having the company of Natsuki and Yuuko was really nice though, on the other hand. These two are on the same since ever, great to see xD. Personally, I'd a feeling that Mizore was more like the Blue Bird throughout the movie considering how Nozomi seemed disheartened whenever she got along with Ririka in a sense 'caging her' hence. Nevertheless, the realisation scene of Mizore with Niiyama-sensei's assistance was impactful and what followed simply breathtaking! Mizore all out unrestrained by her chains really is on another level, no wonder why Nozomi would feel so spiritless and downhearted after that. Props to Mizore for forcing the 'I Love You Hug' there to get some essential things out in the open. It's hard to say that they're completely in synchrony with each other now though but I find that aspect to be incredible realistic and therefore relatable. Seeing the two then focusing in their own chosen paths, Mizori in the music room and Nozomi in the library, was a really nice and a little melancholic addition. Happy Ice Cream! Ah, those were some glorious final moments! I wonder what that expression from Mizori was all about though. Anyway, I find it really awesome how the start and the finish are interconnected in the sense that we enter the school during those first few minutes and only leave during the end. Goes to show that the movie didn't waste a single second to focus elsewhere than the two. On another note, the 'disjoint' at the start and then the 'disjoint' in the end was amazing too, it's sad that the two will be heading into different fields/schools but at least they've come to terms with it or so I felt that's what the message indicated. It's been two days since my first watch and a day since my rewatch but I still can't get my head off this show, goes to show just how amazing it was despite its little flaws and eventless plot. Overall Score: 9.25/10. |
_MushiRock11_Jan 3, 2020 8:25 PM
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| Watched it today. Enjoyed it. Mizore best girl. I also like the animation style for the movie. 5/5 |
| I've not watched any Euphoniums, so will be blind on movie's characters and plot, and will only perceive them as they are in movie in my eyes.. Well, Purple Eyed girl seems to be following, and maybe a bit more nervous about things than her friend?.. Hm.. Seems like this friend of hers.. Ok, I'm looking up their names at least.. Seems like Mizore would want to share some more moments with Nozomi, wanting to put head on her shoulder.. But also is warry about her.. Hm, why the question, if Nozomi likes to rehearse.. .. Asking, if she enjoys time together?.. Or is Mizore not that enjoying playing music?.. Hm.. If to think that maybe Nozomi invited Mizore to play music, maybe she's not actually into this, and more followed her friend?.. Not necessarily, though, will see, really.. Mizore isn't too interested in socializing in general, it seems.. At least she turned off invitation of girls to have tea.. Yep.. Aren't they like parallel lines sometimes?.. Completely not understanding each other.. Like with trying hug moment.. But still, even if they sometimes are different.. Still Nozomi seems important to Mizore as well.. I actually like this topic, but not sure, if they'll make out of this something more or not.. Topic of being friends despite being parallel lines sometimes.. Seems like Mizore doesn't know, who she'd want to be in future?.. Or at least not writing anything on future professions paper.. Hm.. It's quite a sad story.. If blue bird had to leave Liz, because she no longer could be with her, she needed something else, not winter Liz was ok with, but not Blue Bird.. If to bring it to real world, to Mizore's and Nozomi's relationship.. Nozomi could eventually leave Mizore, because she as well might just need something else.. Hm.. So Nozomi would go to musical university for Mizore's sake?.. As Mizore would follow Nozomi.. Sweet from Nozomi's side.. But does Mizore really like music, after all?.. Or just likes Nozomi?.. Who knows.. It seems that Mizore likes Nozomi, she's important for her.. But about music - not enough known.. And now Nozomi tries to involve Mizore in group of more people, which isn't to her taste, Mizore clenching her legs.. Hm.. Seems like Mizore now has more interest to others.. And more talkeable.. Just so fast like that in the moment, like with a switch.. Oh, so Nozomi left musical group once in the past.. That is what Mizore was remembering in flashback.. Well, it seems both girls care about each other, but are hesitant to talk with each other about some topics.. Especially the topic of leave, of their future.. Hm.. And would Nozomi herself really want to go to musical university.. Maybe she's doing it more for Mizore's sake.. Really, these 2 girls are living in their own worlds, don't they?.. And even if they care about each other, they are really thinking about world in different things entirely.. Though, I guess it can be reversed, and said that despite being totally different, they still care about each other, but in the end.. They're parting ways, don't they?.. In the end.. I liked this anime.. It had melancholic feel about it, and I liked portrayal of Mizore.. I feel like maybe I didn't get enough of Nozomi, but well, there are other series, as it seems, maybe there's more about her.. In the end.. I'm not sure, how they're working together as friends.. I guess, they just do.. Because they think and talk about different things, importance of stable relationships to Mizore, talent for Nozomi.. Still they just end up being friends just fine, and that's what matters, doesn't it?.. But it seems like they'll continue as they were.. Just experiencing things in their own ways, as they did before.. Somehow they become "joint" in the end, but I didn't see it, it was only on the surface level "let's show everyone class".. Really, topics they could share - were left untouched.. It just somehow works in the end.. But well, I'm not really complaining.. I liked this anime, will give it a high score, just for atmosphere, for topics touched.. But I didn't really understand one thing about how it was resolved, and how they became closer.. Just by talking their hearts out, is that it?.. So what?.. They still remain with their soul about different things.. It's unclear, if Nozomi will seek her own path, or will be with her whole soul in music.. I somehow didn't understand ending too well.. But well, atmosphere, touching different topics, characterization of Mizore had their beauty in themselves.. Yeah, ending actually is quite unresolved and sad, a bit like they brushed it under the rug, and still will continue with their questionable relationship.. Not actually connecting deep as they could, but more on the surface, it seems.. At least it's sad for me.. |
| That was beautiful, and I'm really glad I saw the series before this since knowing the characters helped a ton. It's amazing how much detail KyoAni put into this, and I know that shouldn't be surprising, but it felt like every frame had meaning and a purpose within the story, something I haven't seen much of (i.e. the directing and storyboarding were both superb). I was expecting a fairly relaxing movie with a slower pace, but this kept me invested the entire time and really is one of the best animated movies I've seen in a long, long time (I've seen a lot). The real-life aspect of the characters and their relatability was my favourite part of Sound! Euphonium, and here it was dialled up to a 10. The only thing I could've asked for was to actually see the final performance, maybe in the credits or at the very end, but it really isn't necessary since the end was already pretty much perfect. This connected with me a lot more than nearly any other anime I've seen (many are emotional or thrilling, which have been enough reason for me to love them, but this was something special, that will leave a much longer impact on me than a sad or intense romance that packs in as much melodrama with the characters as possible (ASV & YN, just saying that they didn't personally impact me as much), because the drama feels natural, and the characters, interactions, and relationships feel real, realistic and relatable), and for that, I really can't give it any less than a 10/10. |
TheFlyingOrangeDec 23, 2019 7:25 PM
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| I though this would be a prequel to Hibike pretty much, but instead it was more of a sequel. They played those reversal roles really well, with us first thinking Nozomi was the blue bird, but instead it was actually Mizore. Animation was more ghibli-like than the TV series, which I don't like as much, but still looks fine. Music was really good again, especially that piano ED was just beautiful. Kumiko is more fun to watch though, her personality is just less... obvious. In any way, a nice movie. |
| I will admit the ending was a bit underwhelming or lacking than I had hoped for. Despite that I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. I knew beforehand that the movie had a lot of subtle details and it was a treat both visually and metaphorically. Everything felt realistic and the story was relatable. Thank you as always KyoAni. |
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| A friend of mine interpreted the last 10 seconds as Nozomi turning around and holding Mizore's hands because Mizore gets surprised before Nozomi opens her mouth. Would also make sense with disjoint becoming joint and now I can't unsee it. All in all my favorite movie 10/10. Sure, the yuri might be subtext but I really can't imagine them just being friends. So my interpretation is that they like each other more than friends. Plus I recall someone saying Naoko Yamada said these two would spend their future together happily ever after, but I can't find the source rn. They deserve to be happy together. edit: found the source: it was this reddit post which linked to the interview on https://kai-you.net/article/52799 (translation) |
Mai88Jan 7, 2020 5:51 AM
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| @Mai88 All this problem is solved by one simple question - why the film was never positioned as romance, and outside this phrase, none of the stuff ever described the characters as lovers or having romantic feelings for each other? And you want to say that only during this interview Yamada first learn that their relationship was supposed to be romance? Not to mention the fact that this phrase was taken out of context, under a “happy ending” they discussed the decision of Yamada not to separate them at the end of the story. In this context, this phrase is easy to read as a metaphor "I want them to be together always and never part". UPD. I looked at the post you mentioned, even its author openly says that they is not sure which reading should be “correct”. Eupho as usual. In some ways, I may not agree with their conclusions (seriously? Consider that their relationship is toxic if they are friends, but pure and spiritual if they are gay? Amazing bias), but they are right, this film doesn't have a “correct” answer. |
RobertBobertJan 17, 2020 9:03 AM
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| When watching Season 2, I thought the plotline with Mizore and Nozomi was a waste of time. I watched this right after and was like, woh, I really was wrong. So many fine details in this movie. One of the complaints I see in reviews is how basic, simple, non-dramatic it is. That's the best part in my mind. |
| Beautiful and poetic. I like the allegory of Liz and the Blue Bird being Nozomi and Mizore, but how early on we, like themselves, believed that Nozomi was the Blue Bird (for leaving, like she did in the first year) and Mizore being Liz. But in a way as the movie explores, Mizore can be the Blue Bird and Nozomi can be Liz. Mizore doesn't want to spread her wings even though she has them, doesn't want to fly high and far with what she has even though she can, because she does not want to be separated from Nozomi. Nozomi doesn't want to let her go, doesn't want to be left in the dust. She wants them to be equal, especially in terms of musical skills. She doesn't want to let Mizore spread her wings because she herslef can't. So it was Nozomi (Liz) who was trapping Mizore (the Blue Bird). But they're not equal. Mizore is much more gifted and not just that, she's worked very hard on it. To say it was pure talent is an insult to how much Mizore has practiced. Mizore never gave up, even if she did lose her reason for moving forward from time to time. Nozomi did. They were never equal. But one is not higher than the other. In musical skill, perhaps. But as people, they're just different. And Nozomi, fully knowing how to let Mizore spread her wings, opened the cage and let her soar. I assume that was by not applying for music school, not trying to keep them on an equal level and chaining Mizore. And this is Nozomi's choice, a choice that although it might hurt both Nozomi and Mizore, Mizore cannot reject because it is Nozomi's choice born out of her love for Mizore. And all Mizore wants is for Nozomi to be happy, and for her to be happy is to see Mizore happy and reach her full potential. Their relationship was never one dependent on the other, unlike I and perhaps many thought. It was co-dependent, dependent on each other. But now, like the Blue Bird let out of the cage, they are free. And once they were, they could harmonise. Mizore could let everything out. She played her heart out, and didn't hold back. Nozomi can't, at least right now, be at that same level, but she will try her hardest to help make sure Mizore flies high and wide. Before they were disjointed, disconnected, not in harmony, but now they are jointed, connected, in harmony. Poetic is the best way I can describe this movie. There's a lot of subtlety here that carries the deeper meaning under the surface of the actions and the dialogue (and monologues). The constant comparisons with Liz and the Blue Bird, the mysterious display of the word "disjoint" early on, the pacing, the tone, the music, the words, everything about it felt ethereal, poetic. As a fan of the original series' first seasons, I was pleasantly surprised by how different the tone and focus of this movie was. It was refreshing and gave the whole series a richer colour, showing us the aspects and sides that we could not see in the original series. Like a cube with many sides, each with a different colour, but all part of the same story. The different art style was a great choice. The character designs early on I felt weird seeing because I was used to how they looked in Hibike! Euphonium, but eventually I came to feel comfortable in it and felt that it fit this movie's story well. The lighting and shots were also very beautifully done, such as the scene between Nozomi and Mizore in that laboratory as they did the Daisuki no Hug. Needless to say the music was breathless. I fell completely in love with one of the piano pieces which I must look up later, and definitely Liz and the Blue Bird itself. I cannot get enough of the oboe and flute solos dancing together, interacting with one another, asking, answering, responding to each other. Mizore's oboe solo was truly beautiful, and it reached me deeply. I could feel the emotions. While listening, I felt as if the music itself was swaying and dancing like Liz and the Blue Bird's feelings and emotions. One very minor thing that I had a problem with was the final ED song with the English lyrics. I have no problem with the lyrics or anything, and I do not want to insult the singer, but her pronunciation of the words made it feel unnatural. It did not flow. It felt like she was still speaking with Japanese syllables (or morae, to be more exact) in mind, such as how she vocalised the syllable-final n as if it was a syllable in English. The stress in the words and the tense vowels could not be heard, resulting in English lyrics that did not flow so well. But it was just the final ED, so it wasn't really a problem. I don't mind it much at all. Even if it wasn't there, I wouldn't change my opinion much of the movie. Truly beautiful. This movie is a piece of art. |
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| Yuri lover be like : otw to Doujinshi relateable... Joking. Alright, I keep this movie in my phone for a long time due to working I don't have time to watch LOL. Back to the topic, Liz to Aoi Tori. I found this story it self was good even they had a sad ending. For the movie, tbh I feel like not impressed with it. Maybe because this is spin-off but I took PoV from many side tho. Mizore and Nozomi relationship is really ambigous. The way of girls is more than a mystery it self. Mizore was quiet person but it feel really quiet. Thing is still better an anti-social. Quality of art has been better I found Oumae is like a different person. Story is really flow softly on a straight way. 7/10 worth to watch (also watch it from the first season).  Mezmerising spot in Hibike Euphonium! series. |
| Beautiful movie. Personally found it pretty relatable too. 8/10. |
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