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Oct 26, 2017 10:49 PM
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Welp, someone sure has a sweet tooth for donuts.

Pretty crazy chapter. Luffy with the Kong Gun! Exciting, I think this is his chance for a victory.
Oct 26, 2017 11:01 PM
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Based Katakuri was actually smart enough to stop his opponent from powering up!

Poor Katakuri is embarrassed by his big mouth lol

So his ability to see the future has a weakness? I’m definitely curious as what it could be.
Oct 26, 2017 11:07 PM
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I didn't expect that at all.
Katakuri value just get down a bit this chapter after seeing him having his precious snack time and he just underestimate Luffy.
It's about time Luffy start eating the mochi as well lol
Oct 27, 2017 12:02 AM
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Katakuri lying down and eating was anticlimactic, but funny as hell.

Luffy finally realised, to beat them you have to eat them.
Oct 27, 2017 12:14 AM
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Haha, i should have known. Katakuri was almost too dark and edgy for One Piece. Oda just had to give him some goofy habit. :)
Oct 27, 2017 12:18 AM
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this chapter realle made my day! and katakuri told luffy a lesson or two about shutting up when he wanted to use a technique xD

luffy's tsukkomi really got me there, he only eat and eat and eat when fighting against big mom's pirate xD and of course, his metabolism is something to be asked, lol.

katakuri's snack's chef staffs got killed because they're saying something about "torn mouth" xD

i saw the same thing when luffy realized katakuri's weakness. this is just my thought, but it think his "teeth" or rather "mouth" are his blindspot and so his weakness: he can't dodge something that is targeted to his chin/mouth/mouth area from bottom or so.
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Oct 27, 2017 12:32 AM
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Hahaha this was goddamn priceless I can't stop laughing at Katakuri's eating side lmao.
Oct 27, 2017 12:41 AM
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Katakuri lying down eating donuts was so funny. Who can blame the man. At the end of the day he does have Big moms genes lol

Loved how he stopped luffy from powering up first xD And haki beyond armament? Dafuq so he's not just a master of observation haki but armament too :o

Lets see what Luffy noticed
Oct 27, 2017 12:52 AM
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Laughed my ass off XD Fun chapter... and disguised in the fun we got some new important info - there is haki beyond armament and Luffy might be an idiot but he is a battle genius. Luffy seems to have found Katakuri's weakness quickly and will start the counter attack next chapter


Oct 27, 2017 12:53 AM

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Well, that's kinda surprising me xD Didn't expect that Katakuri has a different personality when he's eating xD
Of course Luffy would interfere the "Sacred Ritual" lol
And finally he found out that Katakuri probably has a weakness.
Oct 27, 2017 12:59 AM

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I think katakuri cant use harmament haki, observation haki, and awakening at the same time... he can only use one of them separately..
Oct 27, 2017 1:01 AM

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DAMN Katakuri devouring those donuts.

Luffy going Gear Fourth & has found a way of winning. LETS GO!!!
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Oct 27, 2017 1:10 AM
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This chapter is so funny lol. Katakuri mate....BRUH lololololol. Anyways, Gear 4th Luffy vs Katakuri next week. I'm excited.
Oct 27, 2017 1:38 AM

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I certainly wasn't expecting this kind of behavior from Katakuri, but at the end of the day, he's Big Mom's son so I guess it makes sense.

Looks like Luffy noticed something interesting about Katakuri so maybe this will be the start of his counterattack.
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Oct 27, 2017 2:07 AM
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When servants said that no one has ever seen lord Dogtooth eat, I thought that's suspicious and what a view we got! Always gallant, lol. Well, this side of Dogtooth is funny and gives a new view on his character. Luffy became self aware when questioning if he can't win without eating.
Oct 27, 2017 2:21 AM
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Oda-sensei really knows how to makes his characters funny. Not only does Katakuri have a sweet tooth, but he also has a BIG mouth with sharp pointy teeth and a carefree attitude when eating sweets. xD Sacred ritual my ass, lol! He's definitely Big Mom's son for sure.

Luffy found out a weakness about Katakuri's powers? I can't wait to find out how Luffy would win against him. He managed to deal damage on Katakuri too! :D
Oct 27, 2017 2:24 AM

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G_Spark233 said:
Based Katakuri was actually smart enough to stop his opponent from powering up!

Poor Katakuri is embarrassed by his big mouth lol

So his ability to see the future has a weakness? I’m definitely curious as what it could be.


I think his weakness is that using one haki at a time.
Oct 27, 2017 2:26 AM

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Ah..so that's why his name is dogtooth..huh

Oct 27, 2017 3:17 AM

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LMAO dude was on his back stuffing his face with donuts. Goddamn it Oda. Couldn't leave one character ungoofed could you? Well, I did expect his face to look ridiculous since Oda kept it hidden, and the moment he went inside the room and told people not to disturb him I knew we'd see it.

Now, I knew Luffy would plot-shield his way through this fight so what weakness did he discover?
Oct 27, 2017 3:24 AM
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Now, I knew Luffy would plot-shield his way through this fight

^This sums up the chapter perfectly.
Oct 27, 2017 3:39 AM

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Lmao,Katkuri just had to have some kind of flaw,but I wasn't expecting this.

With Luffy finally in G4 and Katakuri showing some weakness, there's some hope now,about time that the momentum of this fight shifts.

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Oct 27, 2017 4:41 AM

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Nice to see a full Luffy v Katakuri.

I swear Mihawk is the only character that's allowed to be perfect in this manga xD

This was such an "Oda" chapter and I freaking love it. The meal time scene had me dying hahaha

I'll be kinda disappointed if Luffy beats him in bog-standard Gear 4th but I doubt it'll end that way. Not sure what Luffy has realised about Katakuri's powers, I guess we'll see...

Edit: Actually, I think I've got it. Katakuri isn't a perfect master of Haki. In fact, he can only use one type of Haki at a time. He can't use his heightened Observation Haki whilst using Armament, nor can he use Armament whilst using Observation.
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Oct 27, 2017 4:57 AM

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My guess is that Katakuri's Observation Haki is powered by hunger
Oct 27, 2017 4:59 AM

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Hilarious chapter, it felt like alot happend in 1 chapter. Great chapter like always
Oct 27, 2017 5:05 AM
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So that is Dogtooth true form, well with a name like Dogtooth can't say I am surprised. I bit a lot of Dogtooth fan girls are losing is now.

So donuts are his weakspots, you know I was going to have some donuts today, but I think I will pass.

This is the beginning of the end for Dogtooth, now he is desperate, Luffy will turn this around. And no break next week, call me surprised. Normally chapters like this end with the break announcement.
Oct 27, 2017 6:41 AM

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Of course, every Big mom's children have some kind of defect.

Oct 27, 2017 7:09 AM
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there is haki beyond armament and Luffy might be an idiot but he is a battle genius. Luffy seems to have found Katakuri's weakness quickly and will start the counter attack next chapter


I'm also curious bout that stronger armament haki part cause it didn't seem like the standard show of haki levels like for example Zorro vs Pica. Maybe cause of mixing it with his awakened DF? I'm not even sure Luffy didn't awakened it also a little bit already like when fighting Doffy in G4 he was still bouncy while getting kicked with armanent haki.

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I think katakuri cant use harmament haki, observation haki, and awakening at the same time... he can only use one of them separately..


That's a good theory. Maybe that special observation or armanent haki type is only possible with this restriction.

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My guess is that Katakuri's Observation Haki is powered by hunger


Powered by hunger? Do you mean he also needs lots of food and maybe especially sugar. His statement "sugar is the wellspring of strength" could be an indicator for that.
Oct 27, 2017 8:09 AM

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Great chapter always.

Based Katakuri, It's almost as if there was some self commentary on the genre with Katakuri stopping Luffy's powerup and Luffy further asking why he had to eat his way out of everything. xD

Katakuri eating donuts was funny, I suppose it's only natural he had some kind of goofy habit but damn he murdered those servants of his in no time.

There are things beyond Armament? Very interesting.
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Oct 27, 2017 8:24 AM

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FINALLY!MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HAKI!About time we learn the extent of haki and its usefulness,Red Hair Pirates is yonkou tier without devil fruit for a reason,Luffy found out Katakuri weakness but whats more hype is haki which is getting dull and its time to make haki more interesting,we are learning about armament so in Wano,Roronoa Zoro might get haki upgrade(since he is specialize in armament).Great Chapter.
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Oct 27, 2017 9:11 AM

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3 possible weakness
1) His big chin
2) Only capable of use one type of haki at the time
3) Being hungry makes him stronger
Oct 27, 2017 9:23 AM

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alright so now Katakuri IS a One Piece character, kinda dissapointed but that was hilarious
Oct 27, 2017 10:00 AM
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This was a genuine 5/5 chapter. One that earned that rating and was better than the last resent ones. One Piece at it´s best is when it´s doing comedy or an interesting reveal.

The comedy of this chapter was spot on because although predictable it was fresh and fun. A new dynamic got introduced instead of rehashing tired old ones and Katakuri is far more likeable as a character now.
He has that charm Oda gives his goofy guys.
Oct 27, 2017 10:18 AM

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Dang. Anyone who needs their own 'time' alone. Best not to interrupt otherwise 'hell' breaks loose. Guess that is for everyone. So I can relate why Katakuri is mad I mean, I have some things that I do not want people to see or even look at. Everyone has those moments. XD, never thought Katakuri would have some sharp teeth involved, it was a spread out rumor and apparently it is true. XD
Oct 27, 2017 10:25 AM

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Katakuri with the mouth and enjoying some sinful pleasure XD
Beyond armament? heh.
Oct 27, 2017 10:27 AM

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Yeah, that was uncalled for and hilarious at the same time. I, to be honest, did not expect to see this side of his personality, nor did I ever have the slightest idea that he has it. Now that formidable and exalted stature he has erected throughout several previous chapters gets shattered by only a single sight. I mean, not that it is something bad Katakuri, mind you. We are all also love to indulge in the time when we are only with ourselves. Although, I do think you did it a little bit too much.

I see a lot of people theorize that he can exert and push armament and observation haki beyond the limit but can only use one at a time as the expense, me including. And at the outset it does seem believable. But I wonder Oda will make it so obvious like that.

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Oct 27, 2017 10:36 AM

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That was some meta humour.
Oct 27, 2017 11:17 AM

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Surprising, yet simultaneously, not at all. Well done regardless. I approve, welcome to becoming a One Piece character, Katakuri.

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Oct 27, 2017 11:24 AM

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He got more from his mother than just power. I can't take Katakuri seriously now. Even with that teeth, he looks way goofier now. Is he part Fishman or something or what the hell is his father?
Oct 27, 2017 1:31 PM

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i get it. No really listen here.
Kata already knew he can't beat luffy by punch him to death
so he use his spear but luffy always quick on that part. I mean there are so many example of this but the most amazing part for me when his shadow can dodge franky's bullets despite his Oz size.
So last option for kata to kill Luffy is to drown him. Which he did. It's natural that see the future has a limit. And Luffy got out of mochi even later from Kata's vision for "future"
After that his snack time already pass by so he doesn't wanted to rescheculed-is that the right word?- that. So he just wanted to relax. If we consider that his vision for future come from K.haki so when he relaxed he "turn it off".
It's actually makes sense so far.
After people found our and Kata got furious he can't focus on K.haki so he got a kick to the chin. Or maybe-my theory- his jaw isn't belongs to himself -see the stitch they look surgical- so he can't foresee what happen to it?
I mean i get that much and it makes sense to me.
On the other hand it feels like ODA can do better than that. idk maybe because of editor?
Anyway what i'm not ok with is BM. How are ODA gonna make it work?
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Oct 27, 2017 1:35 PM

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I loved the comedy elements, and the self-awareness of Luffy. Oda surely loves to spice emo characters up.

For his weaknesses I have 4 guesses:
-his mouth is some sort of... blind spot? (this is stupid idea)
-his haki is related to hunger in some way. (still dumb, but could make more sense)
-being angry/insecure, or generally being in some sort of unstable mental state makes him more vulnerable (It'd make sense for me!)
-can use only one kind of "enhanced" haki at the time (this makes the most sense!)

What Luffy could try is using heavy attacks, then the fastest attacks. Other than Luffy still going strong after so many fights, and damage, this solution for going toe-to-toe against Katakuri seems less of an asspull. I'm quite okay with this solution. I'm still not sure if Luffy can win, though.


What I hope is that we'll see some more information about haki very soon. I'm pretty sure yonkou are capable of using these enhanced hakis as well, and many other people. I just can't imagine Big Mom being able to use them, especially the observation haki. For some reason I think that kind of haki only works if people are calm to at least some extent. Big Mom is like in constant berserk mode whenever she's in a fight, or just a chase.

Anyways.. We seriously need information about haki, and maybe awakening!
Oct 27, 2017 2:07 PM

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so we have new power who is stronger then armament haki.
luffy says that he cant win without eating thats the big mom crew ....
Oct 27, 2017 2:54 PM

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I wonder what is the weakness Luffy was referring to, oh man this chapter ended too early for me. It feels like a year has passed before a one piece chapter comes out, its like a drug I can't get enough of like crack. This fight between katakuri and Luffy has taken a crucial point, even Luffy finally got a kick in which means he is about to close it.

Oda sensei please do two chapters a week, please please.
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Oct 27, 2017 3:36 PM

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I don't believe Katakuri's character was shattered, just cause he likes to fool around in his private time doesn't make him any less of a badass. IMO this jumped him up in the ranks of popularity, at least he is one of my top One Piece characters now.
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Oct 27, 2017 4:29 PM

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well I definitely didn't expect to see Katakuri like that!!
looks like the tides of the battle are going to turn next week!
Oct 27, 2017 4:48 PM

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I've been wondering for a while now why Luffy didn't just eat the mochi. I didn't realize there was anything he didn't like to eat.

As soon as I found out no one has ever seen Katakuri eat I figured he was doing something embarrassing. Looks like he was in indulging himself to much to use that prediction power he always seems to use. He seems to be off his game now.
Oct 27, 2017 9:39 PM

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For his weaknesses I have 4 guesses:
-his mouth is some sort of... blind spot? (this is stupid idea)
-his haki is related to hunger in some way. (still dumb, but could make more sense)
-being angry/insecure, or generally being in some sort of unstable mental state makes him more vulnerable (It'd make sense for me!)
-can use only one kind of "enhanced" haki at the time (this makes the most sense!)


1 - Agreed, it's stupid
2 - Katakuri's merienda is the focus of this chapter. It's stated that he always eats it at the same time every day and that no one has ever seen him while eating (weak point alert). He had to pospone it because of the fight, and didn't bother to check Luffy status after the finishing blow. All he cared about was to enjoy his meal. Then, after the meal, suddenly his ability to read the future, his most dangerous trait, is gone. It all makes sense.
3 - It's possible, can't be ruled out yet
4 - Reread chapter 879. Katakuri predicted Luffy's moves AND countered with Haki imbued attacks. Sure, now he shows an even more powerful version of Armament Haki, but why would he drop his Observation Haki in favor of that? He was already massacring Luffy with it (again, not being hungry anymore could be the cause of the switch)
I'll go for number 2.
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build up for katakuri i guess...
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Oct 28, 2017 7:38 AM

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Lying down is like fapping for Katakuri lmao
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Oct 28, 2017 8:30 AM
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Genuine question? Who went to get donuts after this chapter?

I read it yesterday and got me some today at Dunkin donuts.
Oct 28, 2017 10:39 PM

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I will never look at Katakuri the same, lol.
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