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| No stories, to make the characters, but they themselves to them, and a great storyline coming out of rich characters, that's what I'm appreciating this anime. Storytelling that supports all my desires, graphically is FAB! :D |
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| That piece at the end almost made my eyes sweat oh and I hope the operation "Bring back Asuka-senpai" will be a success .. i will be glad if she comes back and fix her issues to her mother.. |
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| What an amazing episode, one of the best for me! Now seeing full picture for Asuka's problem i still think she is the one to blame for Nozomi and Mizore's situation and she is not denying it herself, but i can see where she was coming from. Nice interactions with Reina and Natsuki, feels like Reina was always pointing Kumiko in the right direction or mb it was both ways for them and Natsuki is such a sweet girl, pretty sad that their characters are falling out bit by bit. Obviously was waiting for meetup with Asuka and it was even better than i expected. Kumiko always had hard time with all the problems falling on her, but she (gladly) will accept them again even if she wouldn't admit it. And i think at this point it would be strange if Asuka wouldn't rejoin the band. |
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Waller said: can anyone tell me how much of the novel is covered in the anime by now? maybe spoiler tag |
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| uh, those are pretty nice info, thx man |
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TitanAnteus said: It's also why Kyoukai No Kanata has such a bad rap among kyoani fans, even though it really shouldn't. I just had to give an opinion here because I think I am one of the biggest fans of the studio and love most of their work with a lot of passion. I am the same person who trash-talked how annoying K-ON! season 1 was particularly mentioning Yui being an annoyance until I re-watched it and then followed through with the sequel season 2 and the movie to really understand the subtle character growth of Yui. It was an amazing ride and eventually became a huge fan of the franchise. I am the same person who was reluctant to watch the infamous endless eight until watching it right before watching Disappearance and then realizing the importance of endless eight in the build up to one of the best animated featured films I have seen in the industry. I am the same person who thought Tamako Market is just a random comedy/slice of life show until I saw TLS, an incredible movie with every single segment had deep meaning behind them as I watched it with awe, almost spellbound with the powerful presentation of the story. It sucked me in like Miyazaki's Spirited Away. It remains one of Kyoto Animation's greatest creation in my opinion and coming of age stories. However, I think Kyoukai no Kanata doesn't have the same flavour as shows like Hyouka, Chuunibyou (season 1 in particular) or even Amaburi does. It just felt like a pile of emotion thrown at fans. While emotions can be great way to attract fans, I need more than just emotions to appreciate a properly written story with attention to details, small moments that are significant but impossible to notice unless someone pays careful attention. That is where Disappearance, TLS, Clannad AS or Nichijou shone the most. I hoped Kyoukai no Kanata Mirai-hen would be able to change my opinion about the TV series like Disappearance or TLS did to their prequel TV series but it didn't. It was the same thing all over again. Emotional characters trying to make viewers feel empathy for them. Not through the story or the characters themselves; just through the emotional state of the characters. I find stories like these good, but not great. Great shows must have more to offer. As for E7, I think it's one of the best coming of age stories, which makes it a great story. I wasn't however a fan of the romance that was building up but the final episode did the anime justice which alone made it one of the best TV anime of all time. |
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shanimebib said: TitanAnteus said: It's also why Kyoukai No Kanata has such a bad rap among kyoani fans, even though it really shouldn't. I just had to give an opinion here because I think I am one of the biggest fans of the studio and love most of their work with a lot of passion. I am the same person who trash-talked how annoying K-ON! season 1 was particularly mentioning Yui being an annoyance until I re-watched it and then followed through with the sequel season 2 and the movie to really understand the subtle character growth of Yui. It was an amazing ride and eventually became a huge fan of the franchise. I am the same person who was reluctant to watch the infamous endless eight until watching it right before watching Disappearance and then realizing the importance of endless eight in the build up to one of the best animated featured films I have seen in the industry. I am the same person who thought Tamako Market is just a random comedy/slice of life show until I saw TLS, an incredible movie with every single segment had deep meaning behind them as I watched it with awe, almost spellbound with the powerful presentation of the story. It sucked me in like Miyazaki's Spirited Away. It remains one of Kyoto Animation's greatest creation in my opinion and coming of age stories. However, I think Kyoukai no Kanata doesn't have the same flavour as shows like Hyouka, Chuunibyou (season 1 in particular) or even Amaburi does. It just felt like a pile of emotion thrown at fans. While emotions can be great way to attract fans, I need more than just emotions to appreciate a properly written story with attention to details, small moments that are significant but impossible to notice unless someone pays careful attention. That is where Disappearance, TLS, Clannad AS or Nichijou shone the most. I hoped Kyoukai no Kanata Mirai-hen would be able to change my opinion about the TV series like Disappearance or TLS did to their prequel TV series but it didn't. It was the same thing all over again. Emotional characters trying to make viewers feel empathy for them. Not through the story or the characters themselves; just through the emotional state of the characters. I find stories like these good, but not great. Great shows must have more to offer. As for E7, I think it's one of the best coming of age stories, which makes it a great story. I wasn't however a fan of the romance that was building up but the final episode did the anime justice which alone made it one of the best TV anime of all time. I feel like Amaburi was more of a pile of emotions thrown at fans than Kyoukai No Kanata was. The thing with that anime is that the male protagonist doesn't really make all that much sense in how he interacts with Mirai at first. Then you slowly learn more and more about him so you slowly understand his reasons for meddling in her affairs more. Then the show does this wonderful 180 where after you think you understand him, the show lets it on you and Mirai's "chasing" after him. While I do admit that there was some melodrama. Mostly because of small plot threads that didn't have too much relevance to the overall story structure, the show is very down to earth about how the characters see each other and why. |
| Good episode. Great animation really. |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| I really hope Asuka comes back before the end of the second series. Because this would be a satisfying conclusion to her story, but a terribly sad one. Still if this is her last hurrah I think the show gave us a powerful episode for the fan favorite character to go out on. I like how this episode takes its time and Asuka doesn't even show up until the second half. The ending song was a genuinely emotional one a slight but powerful performance. I think one of the things that interested me most about the episode though was Reina and Kumiko's brief little flirting outside the music room, it really seems like they might just go straight yuri with this show instead of just hinting at and playing around it. I'm also genuinely interested in Natsuki's role as we enter the end of the second season. And on a purely superficial level does this episode being named "Hibike! Euphonium" signify this is the last season they're going to do? |
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Burger-Meister said: Nice to see more Kumiko and Reina interactions. Also, the "her blood is probably tasty" line is FAR from being subtle. Looks like it was too subtle for most people here |
| This was a beautiful episode. There were so many things I enjoyed in this episode. I liked how Kumiko and Reina's friendship has gotten very close as Reina was able to point out some of the things Kumiko was able to see through people's feelings and notice them. I thought that was incredible and Kumiko has been growing so much as a person that she's to be commended for that. I do feel sorry for Reina as she was flustered seeing Taki-sensei sleeping peacefully and looking at the photo which may have put her feelings at rest. Kyoani is doing a pretty good job when handling the visuals and the animation which has been top-notch quality. The second half I enjoyed so much. We get to see Asuka's real self as she was growing up learning how to play the eupho and her upbringing. I think I know why Kumiko wanted to hear Asuka play as she was very important to the band and things wouldn't be the same without her. The solo performance was amazing to listen and I do believe that Asuka's smile was the best I've ever seen which was her real self after all this time. :) Next week will be interesting to see how things will go for the Nationals! |
| That was a 10/10 for me. The closing credits appearing with Asuka playing her father's piece was perfect. I kept waiting for the cheery closing theme to spoil the moment, but hooray!, Kyoani resisted the lazy temptation. I can't truly judge the voice acting since I am not fluent in Japanese, but the change in Asuka's personality as she opened up to Kumiko seemed very subtle to me. Not jarring and fake. By the last segment of the episode the two had become genuine friends. Asuka didn't really seem to be close with anyone in season 1 or the first part of this season. Maybe Kaori and the president. |
| The beautiful Asuka's mysterious has finally been revealed. I'm surprise that her dad is famous. Reina super adorable this episode. That scene with Taki-sensei got me smiling and giggling. She like got an orgasm when Taki-sensei took the key from her. Must have wet herself Dammit, Reina! Why are you so damn cute. My heart skipped a beat when I saw her cute expression. |
| Ah, we finally get answers to Asuka's mystery. That was definitely a lot more satisfying to watch than the seemingly forced drama we got with Mizore who seemed to come out of nowhere and became forgotten again after the arc finished. Great episode. |
| I need sleep. |
| That was FUCKING BEAUTIFUL |
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| Probably my favorite Asuka moments so far. Loved to see her show a more honest side. And love how she trusts Kumiko. |
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| oh bad, Reina is going to know about Taki's wife, another problem will rise. btw, that music played by Asuka, make me imagine about some soldier came back from wars. |
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| Is there already a confirmed episode number? Still hoping for 24 episodes, I want more of this anime! However, based on the OP, I think the last arc of the season will be about Taki-sensei. |
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Asuka senpai's opend legs show her opened mind. Kyoto Animation is so fine. [Topic] Seiza - siting on tatami with formal style |
saberlove123 said: In my opinion, Kaori's behavior reminded Asuka of her mother's domineering behavior because that Asuka's shoelace was tight or loose was only Asuka herself knew exactly I suppose that's one way to interpret it. It can just as easily be seen as Asuka getting annoyed or angry at Kaori for trying to meddle with her personal affairs (having Kumiko convince her mom). She saw right through her with the gift/ bribery thing. The way she comments about Kaori being cute feels like she's analyzing her curiously in an objective sort of way. When I do something similar I tend not to feel any particular emotion. Then again, clouded eyes tends to be indicative of a negative mood in anime language, so who knows. |
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S0rahana said: Is there already a confirmed episode number? Still hoping for 24 episodes, I want more of this anime! Regardless of whether Kyoto Animation plans to make an OVA later on or not, I guarantee that the anime's gonna end by the end of this month and this shall be the final season. Unless Rikka's story is animated which of course I highly doubt they would. There's also a thread out there and if you're interested, here's more information on Hibike! Euphonium 2. |
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shanimebib said: S0rahana said: Is there already a confirmed episode number? Still hoping for 24 episodes, I want more of this anime! Regardless of whether Kyoto Animation plans to make an OVA later on or not, I guarantee that the anime's gonna end by the end of this month and this shall be the final season. Unless Rikka's story is animated which of course I highly doubt they would. There's also a thread out there and if you're interested, here's more information on Hibike! Euphonium 2. Thanks for the info. :D |
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| @S0rahana: you're welcome. :) shanimebib said: Off topic: I find it amusing reading the words 'forced' and 'plot device' every time Shuuichi gets some screen time. It just seems they were not paying enough attention to this brilliantly created anime. (Self-quoting) Expect more in the next episode, Ore~. So they are going to follow the novel to this extent? |
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So they are going to follow the novel to this extent? How can you explain please ? |
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| Stunning episode with beautiful visuals. Loved learning more about Asuka and her chat with Kumiko was very interesting. |
It looks almost imminent. They are going for There's still this chance that it will be different in the anime, but right now it has a 90% chance of happening. We will find out on this Wednesday for sure. |
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shanimebib said: (Self-quoting) Expect more in the next episode, Ore~. So they are going to follow the novel to this extent? The best character of the (Shuuichi) show is back! I really hope that we'll get to see him more! |
Kirie-san said: shanimebib said: (Self-quoting) Expect more in the next episode, Ore~. So they are going to follow the novel to this extent? The best character of the (Shuuichi) show is back! I really hope that we'll get to see him more! I didn't know there's a Shuuichi fan out there to that extent so I commend you! I mean I acknowledge that Shuuichi is as real a character can be in the story and there's absolutely nothing to dislike about him, if I dare say so, I think he is a wonderful character, but to consider him to be the best character of the show is a pretty bold statement given that how his role has been reduced and he is practically given the role of a background character. I think he is far behind in the pecking order as far as the anime goes. For me, it's Kumiko > Reina > Asuka > Taki-sensei > Natsuki > Shuuichi > Midori > Hazuki > Hashimoto-sensei > Kaori > Yuuko > Haruka > Riko > Goto > Azusa > Mizore > Nozomi > Niiyama-sensei > Matsumoto-sensei > Mamiko > Aoi *denotes characters with less contribution in the overall story, to be more accurate, didn't have a story arc of their own or didn't play a significant role. In the novel, I think I would put Shuuichi right between Kumiko and Reina. But either way for me, Kumiko is the best character in both versions of the story (novel and anime). |
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shanimebib said: It looks almost imminent. They are going for There's still this chance that it will be different in the anime, but right now it has a 90% chance of happening. We will find out on this Wednesday for sure. Some of vol.4 content are already in the anime BTW. School festival for example. I think Kyoani will put anything from vol.4 that can fit into the timeline of the story. For me I hope... As for Movie/OVA |
Marina2 said: shanimebib said: It looks almost imminent. They are going for There's still this chance that it will be different in the anime, but right now it has a 90% chance of happening. We will find out on this Wednesday for sure. Some of vol.4 content are already in the anime BTW. School festival for example. I think Kyoani will put anything from vol.4 that can fit into the timeline of the story. For me I hope... As for Movie/OVA Yes. That would make sense. But for me, I would prefer that they don't animate I really need to stop writing this much in Hibike! threads. O_O |
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| Natsuki continues to be a wonderful and selfless person. Nice to finally get an Asuka episode. The show was in dire need of one. Little Asuka was so cute, btw. |
MormegilDec 8, 2016 9:52 PM
| Well that was some nice character development from Asuka. Can't wait to see the nationals. |
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| Surprisingly honest part of Asuka, can't say I dislike it. Still, wtf was with Kaori tying her shoes? Pretty sure that at least Kumiko should be more disturbed by it :v It was pretty weird even for friends. After this ep I'm starting to think that Asuka deep inside hates how innocent and caring Kaori is, I hope there will be some more drama about it >:D |
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| nice suprise in asukas storyline, and i admire her friends for looking out for her 3 eps til those nationals |
| It looked like Kaori was gonna die. The comments about her blood being tasty didn't help. |
| Great development! Really like where this is going, let's see what the next episode has to offer! |
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| Nice heart to heart stuff between Kumiko and Asuka |
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| So Asuka's dad is very famous, but it's odd that he never looked for his child to say something... |
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| Reina and Kumiko I can't see them together It's not good for my mental, they're way too cute together Seems Reina noticed about his wife now What a beautiful sound I wish I can hear it in real life Eupho eh.. I want to find one! |
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| 8 objectively, 7 cos MC's Asuka |
| I've been waiting for something like this, getting to know Asuka on a more intimate level. The episode surely delivered. Kumiko seems to have managed to make her open up, but I don't think we're quite done yet. I absolutely loved how, in the scene where Kumiko and Reina find Taki sleeping in the faculty room, the focus seamlessly transitioned from Kumiko to Reina. It also seems like while, at this point, Reina has become Kumiko's confidante (and the reverse is probably true), her personal issues are not ignored either. She's already onto the truth about Taki, and the truth will be very painful. I'm not sure what the scene where Kaori ties Asuka's shoes really means. Is it a form of irony, that Asuka poses as someone independent, but she can't even tie her own shoes, figuratively? Is it a sign of progress, that she might actually accept help from other people, eventually? It makes sense why it's been Natsuki who was able to keep in touch with Asuka, as the latter expressed a sense of camaraderie with Kumiko due to both of them playing the eupho. (Well, Natsuki is pretty awesome anyways.) This instrument from the title also seems to be an ironic symbol for Kumiko. The name "euphonium" (euphōnos, Ancient Greek) refers to "sweet voice", which is something that Kumiko doesn't quite have. I don't mean that her literal voice isn't nice (because it is), just that she is usually awkward in conversations. Still, she is indeed surprisingly perceptive, and when it matters the most she always has the right words, as Reina put it.    A little bit on-the-nose, but I like this transition. A fun bit of show-don't-tell. You all brought up some very interesting points, but I still disagree about Shuuichi, and that any of his involvement in this anime adaptation is a mark of genius. I'd even go so far as to suggest that he could be completely cut from the anime, and the story wouldn't be all that different. I admit I definitely have a bias against him, but I also have a hard time identifying those subtle moments as evidence for Kumiko's true feelings for him. "Kumiko tightened her grip on Reina's hand as Hazuki and Shuuichi left the scene with a close capture of her dejected face to the moment she is shown standing in front of the shoe-locker" I interpreted these moments as to imply that Kumiko didn't want to reject Shuuichi head-on, because she was afraid of hurting the feelings of her childhood friend, or because it would be awkward and bothersome. She's been afraid of confrontation at that point, so it didn't seem far-fetched. So I don't think you should assume that no one else notices these moments; some people just interpret them differently. Creative intent be damned; this is art, after all. The line about peeling the mask off sounded a lot more like "I want to get to know you even better," as opposed to "I'll make you realize your true feelings for Shuuichi". It's a surface level read, but this is just how I see it. I'd also add that, to me, an arc about two characters engaging in some fun banter and visibly enjoying each other's company while gradually becoming closer friends, is a lot more interesting, and a lot more fun than a character harboring a hidden crush for another character who lacks any allure or mystery and barely has screen time anyways. |
LeeTailorApr 24, 2017 10:31 AM
| So much real talk in this episode, all the characters have grown a tonne since season 1. Asuka's tone is really beautiful, she's probably the best player in the band tbh. 100% confirmed now that she will play at nationals. |
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| That Asuka smile must be protected,great to learn more about her. |
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| It was interesting to learn about Asuka’s past. I figured it was something like this since her mom seemed to have such a big problem with her playing euphonium. But it was sweet that her dad sent her the euph. It showed he was really still thinking of her. And I’m glad she continued to play even with her mom being against it. I also really loved hearing her play for Kumiko at the river. It was a beautiful scene. |
| It seems like this time Asuka's smile is different from usual. |
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