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Jun 10, 2014 2:26 AM

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Terrestrious said:
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I love how half the people hate the boy and the other half hate the way the parents treated him, just goes to show what a well crafted premise it was.


Compared to me, who disliked the whole lot of them.

yodsanklai said:
While the story and character drama were weak in terms of Mushishi standards the imagery in this episode was as up to standards.


This basically summarizes my thoughts on the episode. I definitely did love seeing Adashino again, his interactions with Ginko were amusing as perusal. & I also, really loved the OST, particularly during Ginko's speech to Ibuki.

As a whole though, what makes this episode stand out, at least for me, was the imagery. The episode was breathtaking at points, particularly the ending the sequence with the Torikaze eating the Yobiko while totally fucking shit up for the family.

Now please Mushishi, don't leave me again next week.


I'm actually the opposite. I found the character drama to be among the best so far this season (so many interesting themes running throughout: ignorance of the unknown, manipulation/control of others, the importance of family and gaining acceptance, as well as sacrificing for those you love), while the visuals were noticeably below standard (particularly in terms of colouring) - for the first half of the episode, anyway. They really picked up towards the end, and the last five minutes were phenomenal.
Jun 10, 2014 9:47 AM

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Best episode of this season!
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Jun 11, 2014 4:03 AM

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Glad to see you again, Adashino-sensei X)

As for the theme itself, this episode depict what Mushishi had usually done; some little thing that can bring some disastrous thing.
In this episode, that little thing is the souvenir Ibuki bought for his stepmother.

To think that such a small souvenir could almost kill someone....
Jun 11, 2014 6:23 AM

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Loved this episode.
That guy was messed up, probably as a result of faulty parenting, but still, talk about overreacting. He was gonna kill his mom because something quite petty.
5 main aspects I base my ratings on:
1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it?
2. Is it better than Breaking Bad?
3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it?
4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL?
5. Is it actually good?

Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant...
Jun 13, 2014 2:39 AM
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Hmm, it was a pretty good episode I guess. Ibuki is a bit rebellious. He ignores Ginko not once but twice. That's some attitude ^^

I did feel bad for him when his step-mom told him to sell of the seashell. If only she knew how hard he worked to buy it for her. I hope Ibuki comes back one day and settles things peacefully with his family. I hate to imagine their state of affairs without a house.

I honestly don't know what's going to happen with Ibuki but let's hope he follows Ginko's advice and doesn't abuse his powers over the Torikaze.
Jun 15, 2014 12:50 AM

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Man why do people never listen to Ginko, now he had to pay the price.
Jun 19, 2014 2:24 AM

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Man, I just finished watching episode 8 of Mushishi and it was OUTSTANDING. My favorite overall for season 2.

The Torikaze were just beautiful! And those whistling done by the VAs part were skillful, props to them man, loved it.

Even Ibuki's strange power or I should say charm to attract those Torikaze were interesting. Handy for a sailor like himself.

While the Torikaze were just as beautiful Mushi, the Yobiko, on the other hand, were matched to parallel them. Damn Mushi-shi's lore is really something to appreciate. Great writing here.

Ginko luring out Yobiko like a boss saving the family terrified by Mushi's infestation on their hut.

I'm glad that Ibuki let go of his emotions and saved his stepmother from the peril. Way to go, he matured up. Really felt sad for him at the end scene when he was crying and whistling at the same time and left his family.

And that godly animation when the Yobiko were slaughtered by Torikaze was goosebumps generating! This is what I love about Mushishi.

This episode was pure gold, while not expanding much on Ibuki's familial relationship but it highlighted them a bit. In the end, he did cared about his mother when he bought that expensive gift for her and was going to happily announce his employment as a sailor but sadly this episode ended on a bittersweet note.

10/10 episode.
Jun 21, 2014 11:32 AM
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The expression on Ginko's and the doctor's face when Ibuki destroyed the house lol. Great episode.
Jun 21, 2014 3:05 PM

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Stunning episode (although that's nothing new), I liked the extra dosage of humor this time around and the visuals were breathtaking as always.

This episode did a splendid job at showing the consequences that come with abusing the nature of the mushi. Not to say that it was a punishment either, since once again the main theme behind Mushishi is that neither the people nor the mushi are at fault. Both existences overlap and lead to these unpredictable conflicts.
Jun 22, 2014 11:06 AM
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Great episode, kinda cliche but it managed to bring out the emotions
Jun 28, 2014 12:43 PM

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The scene when Ginko lured the Yobiko reminds me the Pied Piper of Hamelin.
Jul 1, 2014 8:05 PM

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Dumb ass! When Ginko tells you NOT to do something, he's got a damn good reason!!

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Jul 3, 2014 7:10 AM

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Weren't those dolphins I have just heard? Meh, so those things were "wing birds" and not dolphins as I thought lol.

Of course, why would he heed the warning of someone who knows better than him and now the boat has sunk.

Lol, Ginko got covered up in snakes...

Damn, they're back in the house since it seems that dude keeps whistling even though he was warned once again, stupid fellow.

Ibuki, you saved your mom and then left your village T.T
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Jul 3, 2014 9:48 AM

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Great episode.
Jul 17, 2014 8:00 AM

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I like how he is able to divert some of those into other places for their nests.
Yep, I totally forgot that he can use his smoke this way!


I had also completely forgotten this was the smoke's ability until he did it. :D
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Jul 19, 2014 4:21 PM

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Ginko not giving a fuck with those yobiko on him, lol.
Jul 23, 2014 2:23 AM

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MsDiva said:
What a beautiful and cool eps. I glad to finally see Ginko again this week......I seriously hope they stop w/ this every-other-week shit, though (or if nothing else at least freakin' tell us it's not gonna be on next week).

I have to be blunt when I say, I don't feel sorry one damn bit for what happen to their home! I think it was utterly deplorable as to how his parents--especially his step-mother--treated him. And I was down-right PISSED at what the hell came out her mouth after he worked so hard to buy her that beautiful gift! I don't care if money was tight and that she felt he could of just bought home the money instead....like my mama used to say (rest her soul) 'there's a way you go about saying things to people'. She DID NOT have to come out of her mouth in such a callous way that she did! My heart absolutely BROKE when I saw that look on his face. And his father has the nerve to call him the 'ingrate'......pfft, sounds more like the pot (or pots if you include the step-mom) calling the kettle black, there ever was one. <_<

However, I got to give Ginko kudos to how he handled it, too. Not only w/ getting rid of the Yoriba but also realizing Ibuki's hurt and demoralization of being rejected and yet still explain to him (w/o chastizing him) while he may be upset and want to think of using the mushi to get even there's also a price to pay bending the rules of those kinds of things of nature, blindly. I think it was beautifully poetic way of Ginko to help remind him not to abuse such a beautiful ability he was for the wrong reason--yet he left it his hands to decide the best path to continue his life.

Very poigant to see Ibuki shed those tears, and basically saying 'fuck it, I'll let it ago....and you all, too. I'm not going to try to please you all anymore, but live my life w/ people who will appreciate me.'. Let his 'parents' see how far they get, w/o Ibuki going and trying to make money to bring home to them.


This indeed. All people saying he's a spoiled brat don't take into consideration he's probably been treated like this his whole life. The latest act of whistling them back to the house was a grave mistake, but it was on an impulse of desperate anger and frustration. He saw that in the end and fixed it, though his decision to leave the house was probably for the best as well. Absolutely adored this episode
Jul 29, 2014 5:56 PM

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Great episode! Quite like the ending as well, also pretty good to see that Doctor again :p let's see what's next though.
Aug 11, 2014 2:05 PM

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This episode is absolutely beautiful, one of my favorites in Mushishi.
I loved what Ginko said to the kid- the part about it being up to him who he will be. His parents' behavior shouldn't dictate the kind of person he is,that's not an excuse; it's completely up to him.
Obviously, I don't think the kid is a brat, spoiled or horrible. He has to work hard to provide for his family but he's probably never been treated with love or appreciation, only looked at as a provider for the family (the first thing the mother had to say after he returned); let's remember that he's just a kid.
Aug 28, 2014 6:06 AM

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Action is Mushishi o.O Mushi fighting each other.
Aug 31, 2014 3:39 PM

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That was a nice episode, the whistle of the birds is so mesmerizing! Such a beautiful anime, truly.
Sep 2, 2014 12:24 AM

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Honestly, Mushishi episodes never disappoint. Another moving episode. It was so sad seeing that boy actually thinking about his mom and buying her that expensive gift, but then actually coming home & her not caring about it at all. I understand they have to worry about the well-being of the family but geez it meant alot to him.

& then when the father yelled at him for whistling, not knowing that he was doing it to actually help the mother. geez louise.

Him leaving the village was so sad.


But on another note, I love how this season is showing at least a greater nuance in character designs. & also, OMG Ginko and the doctor's relationship is too hilarious!!
Sep 2, 2014 8:19 AM

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Back to back excellent episode. This and the rain girl was memorable.
Sep 4, 2014 9:40 PM
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Not a fan of this one. I hated that guy, what a douche.
Sep 13, 2014 12:44 PM

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Well, not the best drama story but it was ok.
Imagery on the other hand is epic!! I'm so amused with the scene where the Torikaze's devastated the house parred with a excellent soundtrack and sound effects.

Overall, great episode. Nice to Adashino-sensei again.
Nov 9, 2014 10:54 PM

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8/10 for this ep.
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Dec 6, 2014 3:38 AM

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MsDiva said:
What a beautiful and cool eps. I glad to finally see Ginko again this week......I seriously hope they stop w/ this every-other-week shit, though (or if nothing else at least freakin' tell us it's not gonna be on next week).

I have to be blunt when I say, I don't feel sorry one damn bit for what happen to their home! I think it was utterly deplorable as to how his parents--especially his step-mother--treated him. And I was down-right PISSED at what the hell came out her mouth after he worked so hard to buy her that beautiful gift! I don't care if money was tight and that she felt he could of just bought home the money instead....like my mama used to say (rest her soul) 'there's a way you go about saying things to people'. She DID NOT have to come out of her mouth in such a callous way that she did! My heart absolutely BROKE when I saw that look on his face. And his father has the nerve to call him the 'ingrate'......pfft, sounds more like the pot (or pots if you include the step-mom) calling the kettle black, there ever was one. <_<

However, I got to give Ginko kudos to how he handled it, too. Not only w/ getting rid of the Yoriba but also realizing Ibuki's hurt and demoralization of being rejected and yet still explain to him (w/o chastizing him) while he may be upset and want to think of using the mushi to get even there's also a price to pay bending the rules of those kinds of things of nature, blindly. I think it was beautifully poetic way of Ginko to help remind him not to abuse such a beautiful ability he was for the wrong reason--yet he left it his hands to decide the best path to continue his life.

Very poigant to see Ibuki shed those tears, and basically saying 'fuck it, I'll let it ago....and you all, too. I'm not going to try to please you all anymore, but live my life w/ people who will appreciate me.'. Let his 'parents' see how far they get, w/o Ibuki going and trying to make money to bring home to them.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

More valuable life lessons from Ginko this episode; I really loved the way Ginko handled the situation.

The scene with the Torikaze eating the Yobiko was SPECTACULAR. That was some mix of awe-inducing and hilarious.



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Dec 26, 2014 8:44 AM

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Dec 28, 2014 2:33 AM

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Wow i see ibuki's mother really care for him.....

seriously you call that a "mother"??? his ship get sunk he barely managed to survive and the respond he get to his mother when he came back "oh ibuki you made it back alive" its like.... its ok even if ibuki didn't come back, he's so excited to go home because he want to give that beautiful gift to his mother along with a good news that he will become a full-time sailor to impress her.but seriously.....what's wrong with that mother?

But,

both is at fault here....wanting his mother to die is too much
but i laugh so hard when the torikaze destroy the house serve them right!!!

anyway good episode as always what can you expect its mushishi!!!
i just realize we are all mushi-shi or "special" because we can see the mushi.
Feb 7, 2015 10:50 PM

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Fortunately in the end he did what was right. I think is totally comprehensible why he left his family so it's alright. And nice to see Ginko showing him that killing his step-mother (or the woman that adopted him, I don't know) would be wrong. Great decision by the kid haha.


And like someone said, the way he was treated was terrible. She didn't care for him... the way she talked to him when he came home showed that (like the guy above said). He was like just a moneymaker to his mother. So yeah, wise decision, kid!

BTW, Ginko is so badass <3 <3 <3
Feb 23, 2015 6:17 AM

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Salxer said:
This episode is absolutely beautiful, one of my favorites in Mushishi.
I loved what Ginko said to the kid- the part about it being up to him who he will be. His parents' behavior shouldn't dictate the kind of person he is,that's not an excuse; it's completely up to him.
Obviously, I don't think the kid is a brat, spoiled or horrible. He has to work hard to provide for his family but he's probably never been treated with love or appreciation, only looked at as a provider for the family (the first thing the mother had to say after he returned); let's remember that he's just a kid.



I wouldn't be able to say it better. He was a kid. His actions towards the end were more mature for his age.

Also, it shows how kids are immature and being immature are very easily corrupted. In this case the corruption wasn't caused by bad company but by power.

I find the Ibuki's actions understandable.
Mar 3, 2015 8:02 PM

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This is probably my favorite Zoku Shou episode yet, my heart just bleed for the kid when his dad called him ungrateful, yet he continued to whistle.
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Mar 7, 2015 11:04 PM

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I love how the boy showed his evil side. That was new :) Really well done. One of my favourite
episodes for sure. The ending with the two opposing kinds of mushi colliding was so cool ^___^
Apr 7, 2015 9:54 PM

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The interaction between Adashino and Ginko was nice ^^
Also I like how Ginko remained so calm with all those Yobiko around him.
The kid must have had a horrible childhood if he's willing to just let his mother die.
Glad he finally decided to just leave on his own though.
May 8, 2015 1:38 PM
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The kid made a wise decision by not defiling his hands with his mother blood, plus left 'em and living a better life for his ownself.
Good episode as always.
Jun 1, 2015 10:33 PM
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Solid episode, I don't like Ibuki though. What a selfish bastard until he got motivated by Ginko-san.
Jun 2, 2015 6:27 PM

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Great episode and i find the boy's actions understandable although he went a bit to far.
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Jun 15, 2015 6:53 AM

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Getting real sick and tired of your shit, Ibuki.

5/5
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Aug 5, 2015 2:42 PM

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Ginko: Don't whistle after dark. Something bad will happen.

Ibuki: *immediately whistles after dark*

I like how Ginko didn't attempt to alter the course of Ibuki's life. Just imparts his wisdom and lets Ibuki choose what kind of man he wants to be.
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Oct 17, 2015 1:55 AM

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I like how the wind is the birds and they eat the worms.
Mar 13, 2016 5:51 AM

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Wow, this story's MC was something else.
Jul 3, 2016 4:16 PM

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Even in the end the kid kept using the birds for selfish reasons, I don't think Ginko was pleased when he saw it. Using the birds like that when there was no wind might end up comming back to him.
Aug 26, 2016 1:32 AM

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The kid was a brat. He screwed over his boat by ignoring Ginko's advice (luckily the whole crew survived), screwed over his family by bringing those Mushi to his home plus getting the mother sick, almost killed the mother by whistling at night on purpose after Ginko got rid of the Mushi, wrecked their house with the wind mushi and then left them right after.

You can say all you want about the parents being mean and what not but from what I saw in this episode they were perfectly reasonable. His mother telling him to sell the gift back to a pawn shop was a logical thing to do since the guy lost his job so they would be in need of money for food and his father scolding him while he was whistling was also a reasonable reaction since they couldn't see mushi and had no idea of their son's ability. If you saw your son whistling and chilling on a tree while your wife was bedridden I'm pretty sure you'd get pissed off as well.

Even if they were actually the biggest pos off-screen, what the kid did was still terrible since he didn't seem to give a dam about his 3 young siblings. The snake mushi could have made them sick as well eventually and now their home is wrecked.
Oct 12, 2016 9:48 PM

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The mini-tornado scene in the house was amazing!
Nov 6, 2016 11:43 AM

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This idiot. He got told to not whistle and he whistled anyway.

Adashino tho lmao. He was trying to be so careful yet Ginko was watching it all, and then he flinches and goes "yo!" I love their relationship.

This guy was the most annoying in the whole series. If you care that much about the gift then why not tell her that he bought for her. But nah he was just "I have only this" He never said it's for you or anything. When told to sell it, he just sulked more and more. How much of a kid you are? People who are trying to justify his 'maturity' are being too soft. Just because he 'spared' her life at the end doesn't mean he's suddenly very gentle or caring. There was lack of communication, things could be better if he tried. One of my least favorite episode even tho it still had some enticing mushi.
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Nov 29, 2016 1:50 AM

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Why can't Mushishi just go on forever? I am very anxious that there are only 4 episodes left.


true that , like detective Conan or one piece

that would a be a big dream



ot : Ginko's philosophical reasoning with Ibuki about his conducts was nice

Mushi fighting each other.

Dec 8, 2016 9:57 AM

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About this family problem.. Both parties are wrong.. But the major difference is Ibuki is still an adolescent boy, where his step mother is a grown woman.. I am not saying it's okay for a young man to do a bad thing, but it is understandable remember how unstable people in that age is..
In conclusion, that mother is not a good mother ... In my opinion, when there is a bad communication about parents and kid, major responsibility to fix things is in parents, if you don't do that, I will say you are not a good parent..

But this episode again show us how well crafted dramas in Mushishi is.. And Ginko is always a great man ...
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Sperms, sperms everywhere.


BTW, LMAO at the ending.. His stepmother had it coming.
Mar 21, 2017 1:25 PM

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I felt bad for the son because when he came home his step mother didn't seem rejoiced that he was alive and all she seemed to care about was that since his ship sank he wont be getting paid. I don't think he should have done that to his family but that's probably what happens when a person is hurting sometimes they just want to see other hurts.
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A bit weaker story compared to the usual IMO, although the comedy with Adahino was great, not to mention when Ginko does his menacing stare.
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