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Mar 1, 2020 7:31 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I'm glad to see their school festival being successful. Really wish the club itself earned more profit though.

In the aftermath of the festival, it looks like our trio goes around town and to a convention. Kinda interesting that the series' setting has a diverse range of areas. I'm also glad to see the club working so hard.
Mar 1, 2020 10:59 AM
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So Kanamori is in business since, like, 10?
Mar 1, 2020 11:06 AM
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I liked the chibi Kanamori part, she was into business since she was a small girl, although I didn't liked her expression at the start of the episode, is she against the wall or something? The next project of the team seems to be a big one, hope the girls can make it.
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Mar 1, 2020 11:12 AM
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I've just realised that they're ending every episode with a fanart, that's so cool!
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Mar 1, 2020 11:17 AM
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Cute Chibimori with the same expression and money hungry lol.
Mar 1, 2020 11:39 AM
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When I saw that shirobako and flcl are the top recommended from this anime I though lol, this anime is really a combination of those two. Good episode again
Mar 1, 2020 11:55 AM
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really enjoying the world building. a good episode to see minimori <3 she been chasing the bag


Mar 1, 2020 11:59 AM
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Holy shit, that episode went by quick, I wasn't even able to really process it. It's like they were in the noodle shop then ED started playing, wow.

"How did you convince him? Was it thuggery?" Lmao. Every group of creatives needs a Kanamori to keep them on track. They would never get anything done if they were left to their own devices.

I'm really loving the passion that went into this project. You can tell it's a love letter to the craft and to the industry and I hope someone out there is watching this and becomes motivated to create their own project. Wish the mainstream anime community off Reddit and MAL would check this out, definitely a masterpiece.
Mar 1, 2020 12:02 PM
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Kanamori's backstory was great and wow she was a money hungry girl since she was a child huh.

This new project sounds really lit and I hope it will turn out great.
Mar 1, 2020 12:19 PM
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The flashback of Kanamori was really good, great episode
Mar 1, 2020 12:25 PM

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So Kanamori was a business hound ever since she was a kid. Nice to be getting a bit more of her past after the Mizusaki stuff. The new project looks sweet.
Mar 1, 2020 1:54 PM

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Damn, I can't get enough of this show!
Hopefully we get another season, because 12 episodes is too short!!!

I love how the first part of the series showed us how much passion and the quality of the animation can move an audience (ie. Asakusa's meticulous storyboarding and Mizusaki's detailed animation) ...while simultaneously providing character development in the form of Mizusaki's growth as an 'actor' , so to speak.

But now in the tail end of the series, we see the more realistic aspect of anime, which is that no matter how great the animation, profits still are a major portion of success. I love how the story was able to masterfully weave the character development of Kanamori and the loss she felt as a child, into a greater morale lesson for not only the story itself, but the anime industry in general. It gives us a glimpse into what anime studios have to go through, and the difference between studio success and commercial success.

Passion is one thing, but coupling this with profit leads to a successful anime.
Well done Eizouken !!!
Mar 1, 2020 2:16 PM
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Kanamori's backstory is crucial.

Now we understand just why she's so focused on making sure there's a profit in the end, after all the expenses; she's seen what happens when that isn't the case.

It's not that she's necessarily a money-grubber by nature, but she learned some vital lessons early on. Although it's clear she did have a good idea in regard to marketing and opportunities from an early age; like the one chap commented, she has a very good head for business, even if her maths weren't so good at that time.
Although I'd say that her grasp of mathematics was just fine; realizing that she could sell single units at a significant mark-up compared to multi-packs when the need was such that people would purchase them that way, for a businessman that's just the type of math you need to grasp.
Understanding when you can do so, and when you have to rely upon multi-pack sales, is crucial.

In addition, being able to analyze the situation on the fly and modify your marketing isn't shabby: "I need gloves." "Here are gloves." "They aren't the gloves I need." "Combine them with what you already have, and they'll do the job better than anything else available at this time."

And, yeah.
It wasn't chance that led to their having lunch there when the creative types were looking for their next project...

Kanamori may appear brusk and unfeeling, but she loves that town.
She wants the businesses to survive, she doesn't want it to become a ghost town and all of them be forced to move away.
The only way to make that happen is to change the outside world's perception of their city, and get them to come there and spend money.
It's no longer on the normal travel routes.
They have to get people to want to go there despite the inconvenience.
To change perceptions such that what they are coming for makes it not inconvenient... (man, that phrasing is awkward.)
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Mar 1, 2020 2:35 PM

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Minmori was too precious, what a crafty girl.

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Mar 1, 2020 2:46 PM

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Damn this show is endearing. I'm loving these characters more and more each episode! I'm still in love with how they visualize their imaginations, the process of animation, and world-building.

I loved seeing some Kanamori backstory, and Asakusa being inspired towards the end; such an awesome episode.
Mar 1, 2020 2:52 PM

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Kanamori was on that hustle early. She's got a great mind for sale and marketing. They're lucky to have her.

This show is just too good; it's not fair.
*Mourning the disappointment of The Promised Neverland season 2.*
Mar 1, 2020 3:04 PM

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The money-laundering Kanamori faces a crucial crisis with the Eizouken in financial terms...and it's time for a new project, with the short robot anime screening NOT making a significant profit.

Even in outside lands, the storyboarder Asakusa and animator Mizusaki just can't stop flexing their imaginations. But even more is Kanamori's "killer-instinct" analysis that has plans at the ready for people to spend more to contribute significant profits. Why?

This episode really speaks volumes about Kanamori and her needs and wants for money management through her Chibi form. Her business mind improvised from young shows that she utilizes EVERY opportunity where money can be made, by hook or by crook.

With that, the next upcoming project is laid in stone. While the fundamentals are there, it's slowly getting to where they wanted to achieve.

The first episode I genuinely enjoy and felt like it's too short! We need more of this project and to see the fruits of it!
Mar 1, 2020 6:11 PM
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ffffuck, is every episode of this show just gonna be a 10/10 or what?

As someone in a creative-oriented field every episode has hit deep and i feel so related to all their struggles and motivations.
Mar 1, 2020 6:12 PM
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Asakusa showing that sound off was great. Easily one of the best parts of the episode.
Mar 1, 2020 7:40 PM

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Kanamori is every CEO's dream!
Mar 1, 2020 7:51 PM
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Kanamori would be a great businesswoman.
Mar 2, 2020 12:18 AM
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Yet another brilliant episode! Man, Minimori's flashback was really good, I love her character and it was nice to see her business-mind seemed to have came from a pretty wholesome spot, the way it was colored and animated was lovely too. In general this ep had some really lovely and expressive animation, especially towards the end when Asakusa had her "eureka!" moment. Can't wait to see how the girls' next project shall fair, once again this show never fails to make me feel happy and charmed thoroughly.
Mar 2, 2020 12:49 AM

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INCREDIBLE.
however, means more work for me over at the eizouken wiki.
Le sigh.....
Mar 2, 2020 5:28 AM

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While i see the logic behind the invisible laser, i can't still accept it. Lasers are COOL.
If you want to make it more realistic, you can have a middle ground. Lasers can be seen if there's particles in the air and you can also see it shine on the lends it comes out of and where it lands.
So the first shot might me mostly invisible, but as soon as there's some destruction the air would be filled with smoke and other particles and the lasers could be seen.
Also, since it's meant to be extremely hot, you can make the air around it warp.

Finally, the coolest laser effect there is is when the beam bends because it hit some kind of special surface or an energy shield like in Akira when they shoot Tetsuo with lasers.
Mar 2, 2020 10:28 AM

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Mmmmmm why is this show so gooood

okay for sure its one of my favorites now
Mar 2, 2020 11:23 AM

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that was my favorite episode so far, minimori and the chibi animation was such a cute change of pace!
Mar 2, 2020 1:40 PM

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Kanamori's origin story would be a great opener for a revenge story. 'They ruined my family's store, now I ruin their business empire.'

Them scouting the new location was really interesting to watch. The city already looked nice and mysterious in its own way and then they created all this extra lore. My only question is: why UFOs?
Mar 2, 2020 2:25 PM
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Loved Chibimori!<3
Mar 2, 2020 2:36 PM

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My only question is: why UFOs?


Because this is secretly the origins of studio Trigger, so we need to have aliens come into it at the very end
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Mar 2, 2020 3:24 PM
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I think something that sets this anime apart from most others is the way the main characters interact with the world. They can draw attention to the architecture of the city, note how it's changed, discuss why it was made that way and draw inspiration from. Theres a lot of thoughtfulness in it that I don't think other anime have for the place where characters spend their everyday lives. There's also different characters doing their own thing, different locations and businesses that don't revolve around the main trio. Then theres all the other bizarre clubs that don't really need an introduction but are just coexisting in the same space. I think this sort of world building is what makes it appealing. Nothing feels like a backdrop, just complementary to the experience.


THIS. The setting is amazing and how they interact with it and constantly draw attention to it makes it a very unique anime. Love how it's slightly surreal, too. Like the whole architecture of the school and the city feel almost dream-like. The school, particularly, falls into this "realismo mágico" mold, with all the crazy clubs, the school council's private army (???) and the school grounds being almost like a fortress/laberynth of different buildings, stairs and tunnels.

Reminds me of Fellini movies or Moebius comics.
Mar 2, 2020 5:54 PM
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Some of the shots in the episode the long panning shots specifically were some of the best I think I've ever seen. The detail in that sort of sketch style they use in their imagined world as the camera moved stayed so perfect. Every movement smooth as butter. Really made my eyes to wide at how incredible it looked.

Kanamori has the greatest business sense of anyone ever. As the episode played out showing how she set up this whole plan to go to the ramen shop guy so he'd get them funding from the Chamber of Commerce of all people. That's insane. She goofed them hard. Laughed so much as she said that near the end.

The flashbacks with her were great too. Back then Kanamori had the business of making money in mind. Having her uncle's store open in the snow as the only ones. Knowing the value of money when she got that extra pay she didn't take it for granted and worked harder to properly earn it. Broke my heart when the uncle said it was going to close, even though Kanamori said at the beginning the store closed.

Hit the nail on the head saying no one is coming to a store they don't know about. Which is why her idea to dupe all those officials so they can put an anime out at, what is basically Comiket but they can't call it that of course, is genius. The perfect plan to advertise all their unique ideas.
Mar 2, 2020 9:22 PM

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a Kanamori focus episode and the business of anime lol

that explanation of Kanamori about school jurisdiction limiting the animation clubs profit is spot on the problem with the current production committee system on the anime industry speficially with anime adaptations that most profit is not felt by the anime studios since they are just payed a fix fee for being a hired contractors only and when it comes to anime adaptations the anime studios are usually not part of the production commitee or rights ownership of the anime

and the whole selling merchandise stuff ye a lot of times the anime studios does that too, like selling t-shirts with drawings from their in-house animators

Mar 3, 2020 4:56 AM

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Kanamori's backstory made me appreciate her much more
was pretty cool and inspiring
Mar 3, 2020 12:26 PM
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Love Kanamori's backstory Only she fought something worse than aliens Making a profit
Mar 3, 2020 4:04 PM

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KANAMORI!!!!!!!!! BEST GIRL 💕
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Mar 3, 2020 8:20 PM

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For some reason, I found Kanamori's backstory more endearing/touching than expected. I'm not sure why tho... it just gave me a mix of nostalgic feelings I can't really explain.

Anyways, this was another spectacular episode. I think I didn't mention it before but man I'm totally amazed by this series' world building and the amount of details that was poured in it. And to think it will now become the girls' play ground for their new project... boy, I'm so excited for the final product now!
Mar 4, 2020 7:51 AM

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Holy shit, that episode went by quick, I wasn't even able to really process it. It's like they were in the noodle shop then ED started playing, wow.

"How did you convince him? Was it thuggery?" Lmao. Every group of creatives needs a Kanamori to keep them on track. They would never get anything done if they were left to their own devices.

I'm really loving the passion that went into this project. You can tell it's a love letter to the craft and to the industry and I hope someone out there is watching this and becomes motivated to create their own project. Wish the mainstream anime community off Reddit and MAL would check this out, definitely a masterpiece.


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Mar 4, 2020 8:01 AM

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Kanamori's backstory is crucial.

Now we understand just why she's so focused on making sure there's a profit in the end, after all the expenses; she's seen what happens when that isn't the case.

It's not that she's necessarily a money-grubber by nature, but she learned some vital lessons early on. Although it's clear she did have a good idea regarding marketing and opportunities from an early age; as the one chap commented, she has a very good head for business, even if her maths weren't so good at that time.
Although I'd say that her grasp of mathematics was just fine; realizing that she could sell single units at a significant mark-up compared to multi-packs when the need was such that people would purchase them that way, for a businessman that's just the type of math you need to grasp.
Understanding when you can do so, and when you have to rely upon multi-pack sales, is crucial.

In addition being able to analyze the situation on the fly and modify your marketing isn't shabby: "I need gloves." "Here are gloves." "They aren't the gloves I need." "Combine them with what you already have, and they'll do the job better than anything else available at this time."

And, yeah.
It wasn't chance that led to their having lunch there when the creative types were looking for their next project...

Kanamori may appear brusk and unfeeling, but she loves that town.
She wants the businesses to survive, she doesn't want it to become a ghost town and all of them be forced to move away.
The only way to make that happen is to change the outside world's perception of their city, and get them to come there and spend money.
It's no longer on the normal travel routes.
They have to get people to want to go there despite the inconvenience.
To change perceptions such that what they are coming for makes it not inconvenient... (man, that phrasing is awkward.)


Love her character from the start of the first 3 episodes. After seeing her making a huge amount of effort to make her friends passion a reality literally. Even though her motives are clearly to earn extra buck is reasonable enough to get in the gig but the amount of effort and consideration the product will go through is commendable enough that it isn't the money anymore. And for the record, their efforts worth is not 20k yen it supposed to be 1.5 million which is true because the amount of time, effort, quality and investment for the project is something to be worth a huge payback and not something to joke about.
Mar 4, 2020 1:57 PM

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Another amazing 5/5 episode
Kanamoris backstory's great :)
I wonder what ramen with fruit taste like I've gotta taste that one day
Mar 5, 2020 2:11 PM

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Marinate1016 said:
Holy shit, that episode went by quick, I wasn't even able to really process it. It's like they were in the noodle shop then ED started playing, wow.

"How did you convince him? Was it thuggery?" Lmao. Every group of creatives needs a Kanamori to keep them on track. They would never get anything done if they were left to their own devices.

I'm really loving the passion that went into this project. You can tell it's a love letter to the craft and to the industry and I hope someone out there is watching this and becomes motivated to create their own project. Wish the mainstream anime community off Reddit and MAL would check this out, definitely a masterpiece.


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Mar 7, 2020 12:11 AM

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Only 3 episodes left already feeling sad...
Mar 8, 2020 9:17 AM

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Another excellent episode. Eizouken is one of anime in this season that makes me really engaged with its world and amazing storytelling.
Mar 9, 2020 11:52 PM

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Little Kanemori was nice to watch.
Mar 15, 2020 2:39 AM

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I'm surprised that they showed Kanamori's past in this episode, I really like her personality and we know the reason now.

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Mar 15, 2020 3:03 PM

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Kanamori's flashback was fantastic.
Mar 19, 2020 10:00 AM
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Fantastic episode!

Animators certainly deserve more money than they get, right? 1.8M is quite the stretch though but I hope that'll to fruition one day.

Kanamori's backstory was pretty powerful, I've to say. Now, we know where her incredible negotiating and "thinking two steps ahead" skills come from. Minimori's disbelief in finding about the closing of the shop though, heartbreaking.

Damn, that's some enticing project (leave it to Asakusa to come up with these gold ideas) they've come up with! And fully funded even, it can't possibly get better than this! Can't wait to see the end product!
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Mar 22, 2020 6:48 AM

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hmm club sure is growing up fast.. the...
Mar 22, 2020 10:00 AM

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Eizouken now has moved to its next project.

Kanamori's little backstory was nice to see.

Mar 25, 2020 4:51 PM

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business girl but baby. 10/10
Mar 31, 2020 11:05 AM

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And with this episode, Eizouken just confirms itself as a great anime.
I loved Asakusa's realization at the end (and her basically turning into a literal gremlin was priceless), but the higlight for me was Kanamori.
As much as I always really liked her, I didn't really get the hype, but here, I'll admit that she is truly great.
This show does such a good job at giving life to its characters.
Also, was Chibi-Mori voiced by Asakusa's va ? That is so cute ! I like this little detail as generally, young versions of anime girls are voiced by the same actress as their older counterparts, which sometimes makes for awkward moments where the va doesn't manage to modify her voice enough.
And the animation was paryicularly good in this ep, I loved it !
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