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Mar 18, 2016 2:19 PM
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I don't think I would want to see a modern-day Space Opera anime. Why? The animation would probably be terrible because of perfected characters and lack of a realistic approach, the storyline would be terrible (because frankly, does story even matter anymore in anime nowadays?), the fanservice would be a main priority, the characters would all be moaning children without any form of depth, and the epicness of 80s and 90s nostalgia would be lost. I'd rather immerse myself in what I can find from thirty or twenty years ago.


Just a reminder that Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2199 happened, and it was good (although admittedly not as well-written as older space operas)


Yeah well 50 shows get made every year.

Most of those are moe/SoL/ecchi. Forgettable trash.
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Otaku now are into slice of life , ecchi harems etc. so there is less focus on space opera. It still kind of exists in anime through remakes like the Space Battleship Yamato remake and the CGI Captain Harlock movie. Western shows focus more on space operas than anime now.
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Wall of text inc, read for some top notch rant about today's society.

Today's anime community consists mainly of 12yos who are horny for boobs and bright colors with lots of action. Why ? Because this gen (2000+) is retarded, they don't study, they are not interested in anything science related, all they know is how to use a phone/pc and ... can't really think of anything else, I guess nothing else. They are just dumb and only play games/text meaningles stuff to 'friends'.

Anime are being made to make money, what makes money ? Brainless action - good guy kills bad guy, repeat. What makes even more money ? Bouncing boobs. They don't take risks, they make what's surely gonna make money. If we were in an alternative reality where every 12yo was smart, we would see only science anime every season with a school harem and a brainless shounen here and there as 'experimental' shows, which probably won't make money.

I myself would actually love to see more space anime as I have 3 of them in my TOP10. Also good historical anime would be great, but it ain't gonna happen, cuz noone wants good, thought provoking, attention needed anime, all kids want is boobs. Animated boobs. Jesus Christ, I'm embarassed to be a part of such community.

You think those smelly otaku know what history and space are ? LOL, they've spent their whole lifes in their basements, they don't even know what sunlight is.

That's the world we live in, and I know that there are 10yos offended by this thinking they are smart for knowing how to move a mouse, rest assured, you are dumb af and you only think u'r smart cuz your momma told u so out of pity, she already knows u'r fucked.
Mar 18, 2016 9:54 PM

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We needed more space for generic harem highschool ecchi shows you forget about 5 minutes before you finish it. God forbid the industry has creativity.
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just watch interstellar or something. space operas have become really hard to write because our increased understanding and expanding knowledge of space and physics build a sort of stigma against inaccuracies in storytelling. theres that pressure to be scientifically accurate so your story seems credible/plausible and the suspension of disbelief is harder to maintain if you get what i mean. consequently authors would rather go with what they know will make them an easy quick buck which basically means pumping out their 64th ecchi moe battle harem light novel.
Mar 18, 2016 10:06 PM

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"Reincarnated as a Spaceship Captain" anime would be dope.

And still waiting on s2
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Mar 18, 2016 10:28 PM
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We needed more space for generic harem highschool ecchi shows you forget about 5 minutes before you finish it. God forbid the industry has creativity.


I wonder how many shows that came out in 2015 people have already forgotten about? And when by a goddamned miracle something with a clever plot and interesting characters comes out it will get cancelled/discontinued.
Mar 18, 2016 11:05 PM

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The only space opera I watched is Yamato and it's bad. I'm not to eager to continue watching the genre now.
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The only space opera I watched is Yamato and it's bad. I'm not to eager to continue watching the genre now.

You liked Spice & Wolf. Give the Banner of the Stars franchise a try.

Judging any genre by a single instance is generally a bad idea.

OT: What I really want to know is why we don't still have swanky diggs, dance to disco, and use terms like "radd" and "gnarly". How could public opinion change like that? Not that it wasn't for the better, of course. xD
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Anime are being made to make money, what makes money ? Brainless action - good guy kills bad guy, repeat. What makes even more money ? Bouncing boobs. They don't take risks, they make what's surely gonna make money. If we were in an alternative reality where every 12yo was smart, we would see only science anime every season with a school harem and a brainless shounen here and there as 'experimental' shows, which probably won't make money.

As long as it sells. I'd do the same if I was in their feet (Even though I dislike Harem). Though I do agree that they should at least support the genre by making at least one series a year, if not per season, because there are still fans out there.

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I myself would actually love to see more space anime as I have 3 of them in my TOP10. Also good historical anime would be great, but it ain't gonna happen, cuz noone wants good, thought provoking, attention needed anime, all kids want is boobs. Animated boobs. Jesus Christ, I'm embarassed to be a part of such community.

To be honest, I wouldn't watch anime if I wanted to look for 'thought provoking' content. I'd be studying extra courses, watching NatGeo, Discovery Channel, good YouTube channels etc.
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BonerBender said:
We needed more space for generic harem highschool ecchi shows you forget about 5 minutes before you finish it. God forbid the industry has creativity.


I remember watching a "creative" 2015 anime (Shimoneta).
Never again...... t'was one of the worst and most ridiculous series I've watched.
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Arse said:
Wall of text inc, read for some top notch rant about today's society.

Today's anime community consists mainly of 12yos who are horny for boobs and bright colors with lots of action. Why ? Because this gen (2000+) is retarded, they don't study, they are not interested in anything science related, all they know is how to use a phone/pc and ... can't really think of anything else, I guess nothing else. They are just dumb and only play games/text meaningles stuff to 'friends'.

Anime are being made to make money, what makes money ? Brainless action - good guy kills bad guy, repeat. What makes even more money ? Bouncing boobs. They don't take risks, they make what's surely gonna make money. If we were in an alternative reality where every 12yo was smart, we would see only science anime every season with a school harem and a brainless shounen here and there as 'experimental' shows, which probably won't make money.

I myself would actually love to see more space anime as I have 3 of them in my TOP10. Also good historical anime would be great, but it ain't gonna happen, cuz noone wants good, thought provoking, attention needed anime, all kids want is boobs. Animated boobs. Jesus Christ, I'm embarassed to be a part of such community.

You think those smelly otaku know what history and space are ? LOL, they've spent their whole lifes in their basements, they don't even know what sunlight is.

That's the world we live in, and I know that there are 10yos offended by this thinking they are smart for knowing how to move a mouse, rest assured, you are dumb af and you only think u'r smart cuz your momma told u so out of pity, she already knows u'r fucked.


Space is automatic intelligence, right?

Star Wars is scientific?
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Space is automatic intelligence, right?

Star Wars is scientific?


So you are saying shounens with good/bad guys and school harems require more intelligence to understand than let's say space anime ?

I've actually never fully seen the Star Wars, I just got bored with the first two, but yes, it's scientific, be it a science fiction or realistic science, it's still science and it still requires way more thinking than comedy movies, so your argument is as good as nothing.
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Once again, MAL users at what they're best : discussing a subject without knowing its definition.
Just because it has a ship going into space doesn't mean it's "space opera"... -_-"
Also, "star wars is scientific" -> Every single dead scientist just turned in their graves. Wow that one was heavy.

Also, I never thought I would see the day when space opera fans actually look down on other genres and think space opera is too 'complex/deep/intelligent" for an entertainment media lol. Space Opera is a genre that is solely focused on entertainment over anything else. And so is anime.

thank you very much for the laughs.
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The only space opera I watched is Yamato and it's bad. I'm not to eager to continue watching the genre now.

You liked Spice & Wolf. Give the Banner of the Stars franchise a try.

Judging any genre by a single instance is generally a bad idea.

OT: What I really want to know is why we don't still have swanky diggs, dance to disco, and use terms like "radd" and "gnarly". How could public opinion change like that? Not that it wasn't for the better, of course. xD


Ok, I'll check it out.

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TheBrainintheJar said:

Space is automatic intelligence, right?

Star Wars is scientific?


So you are saying shounens with good/bad guys and school harems require more intelligence to understand than let's say space anime ?

I've actually never fully seen the Star Wars, I just got bored with the first two, but yes, it's scientific, be it a science fiction or realistic science, it's still science and it still requires way more thinking than comedy movies, so your argument is as good as nothing.
Lots of sci-fi isn't really scientific, and doesn't require you to understand science. Thats like saying a fantasy anime requires you to understand magic. The vast majority of the time science is basically there to "do the thing" we don't need to know how.

In Star Wars did you need to understand how lightsabers, flying cars, hyperspace travel and artificial gravity worked? No, and they just worked because they needed some space science to move the plot forward. The same is true for Enders Game or Foundation.

OT: I think it's partly because there's less interest in space opera and generally in science fiction that there used to be. Most modern, successful sci-fi are either less optimistic about humanity and space travel than in the past, part of an existing franchise or relying on nostalgia (or multiple of the above). There would also a huge production cost in making a space opera on such a scale. It's obviously more worthwhile for studios to make something that lot's of people will like and is relatively cheap than to make something niche that will take lots of time and money.
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During the 70s, 80s and 90s political and military space operas like Gundam, Macross, Space Battleship Yamato, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Galaxy Express 999, Aim for the Top! Gunbuster and Space Pirate Captain Harlock were some of the most popular works and for good reason. Nowadays the genre has almost disapeared with only a few Macross and Gundam series coming out and some other not that good examples like Aldnoah. Zero.

What do you guys think that happened? Will we ever see a renascence of this amazing genre?


things become popular and die off... lol thats not an anime thing... thats a society thing

back in the 50s and 60s space related movies were abundant due to the space race, and now theyre pretty uncommon

you're now starting to see "trapped in a game" or game related anime pop up everywhere since video games are becoming a mainstream part of society and virtual reality is being worked on


yeah youe're right. probably the ecchi genre will die out eventually as well since sexuality and nudity is so trivial in nowadays media that people will go tired of it



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Mar 19, 2016 9:02 AM

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It's really too bad since Space Opera is my favorite genre
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Main focus of scientific development was focused more on avionics and space flight, speculative fiction / sci-fi followed the trend.

Later, scientific development focused on electronics and computers, virtual reality etc. so sci-fi followed the trend once again.

It wasn't because space travel was proven impossible, it was because they stopped trying with last mission to the moon. US were happy they beaten the Soviets in space race and no one suddenly felt that mission to Mars is necessary. Other things were developed.

I don't think Space Operas are dead. People never stopped dreaming about that part. And nothing really stop you write sci-fi about mission to distant starts taking place in 2150 - you are supposed to suspend your disbelief when watching sci-fi and good writers can make you do that.

Most Space Opera anime needs a remake badly though - it has a feeling of 60's to 80's, max 90's in them, make them the way we can associate and they can be good as back. It's not like we don't believe in space travel, but we can't associate with 80's mindset anymore.

Rest is purely economical decision which genre sells the best.
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things become popular and die off... lol thats not an anime thing... thats a society thing

back in the 50s and 60s space related movies were abundant due to the space race, and now theyre pretty uncommon

you're now starting to see "trapped in a game" or game related anime pop up everywhere since video games are becoming a mainstream part of society and virtual reality is being worked on


yeah youe're right. probably the ecchi genre will die out eventually as well since sexuality and nudity is so trivial in nowadays media that people will go tired of it
ehh.. isn't it already? last season ecchi shows pretty much flopping. the only thing that breaking 10 K is strike the blood ova, lOl.
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Mar 19, 2016 9:43 AM

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If a space opera had a ton of waifus and a harem MC falling into boob grabs, it would be popular, I guarantee it.
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I love space operas and i'm always looking for a new space related anime every season.

One of the most recent (not as recent as Yamato 2199) is Heroic Age which is one of my all time favorite animes.

Sidonia was a good anime too, i enjoyed it a lot.

I don't think the genre died, but i don't think we'll those space operas with dozens and dozens of episodes anymore.
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back in the 50s and 60s space related movies were abundant due to the space race, and now theyre pretty uncommon
Interstellar.. Star Wars.. Star Trek.. Independence Day Resurgence.. Guardians of the Galaxy..

yeah sure, space movies are uncommon now lol


those are all remakes or sequels of older movies or material though..... lol
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Also, I never thought I would see the day when space opera fans actually look down on other genres and think space opera is too 'complex/deep/intelligent" for an entertainment media lol. Space Opera is a genre that is solely focused on entertainment over anything else. And so is anime.

thank you very much for the laughs.


I can't help but agree with you about the real purpose of the existence of space opera series in the first place. Some of those series incorporate some additional concepts/ideas that aren't incorporated that much in this genre to make them look "complex" at the surface. Those additional concepts and ideas can be insightful on their own, but at the end of the day, we, viewers/readers, are merely just watching/reading a certain melodramatic adventure storyline of its main character/s in that those ideas are merely more of bonus points to those shows than anything.

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I ask the same thing all the time.


On another note, MAL's minimum character requirement is bs.
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What do you guys think that happened?

MoeShit & LoliGarbage happened. It took space operas and badass action OVAs with it...
We still haven't fully recovered... T__T
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Not profitable, as simple as that. Even back then LoGH was difficult to produce and took a shitload of time to finish relatively to normal TV shows.

At the time Harlock and Ginga Tetsudou were made there was a lot less anime and manga but they usually ran for much longer and had at least some kind of merchandise to accompany them. Not to mention most hard episodic stories, ready to be discontinues almost whenever. Even original Gundam wouldn't have happened if people didn't start buying the toys. Trends were set by very few people, market was a lot less saturated and audience wanted different things too.

Now you have a lot of shorter shows that are designed to appeal to an already existing audience with most studios usually working on multiple projects at a time in hopes that at least one sticks. In this environment, producing a long running show requires way too much.
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@Drumrug Well, there are shows like Sazae-san, Crayon Shin-chan, Pokemon, Doraemon, Detective Conan, Naruto, One Piece, Chibi Maruko-chan, Sore Ike! Anpanman, Prince Mackaroo, Nintama Rantarou... All long running shows that are still comfortably airing until now, although Naruto, Detective Conan or One Piece isn't really a show that should have last longer really.

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@Drumrug Well, there are shows like Sazae-san, Crayon Shin-chan, Pokemon, Doraemon, Detective Conan, Naruto, One Piece, Chibi Maruko-chan, Sore Ike! Anpanman, Prince Mackaroo, Nintama Rantarou... All long running shows that are still comfortably airing until now, although Naruto, Detective Conan or One Piece isn't really a show that should have last longer really.


That's cause those shows are significantly easier to produce and some of them are huge franchises with a lot of money in them. Like Sazae has a lot of sponsors and product placement since it's the most popular family show that even normal audience can watch. Doraemon has loads of products associated with it. Same with Pokemon. One Piece and Naruto are incredibly well selling Shone Jump hits with enormous pre-existing audience willing to spend money on figures, DVDs and everything else. All those franchise exist only cause there is money behind them.

The situation with space operas is significantly different cause they can't really get by on episodic content, there are no viable, well-selling, popular sources to adapt and making an original work longer than 12-26 episodes is such a crap shoot you might as well just go play pochinko with that cash.
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Arse said:
TheBrainintheJar said:

Space is automatic intelligence, right?

Star Wars is scientific?


So you are saying shounens with good/bad guys and school harems require more intelligence to understand than let's say space anime ?

I've actually never fully seen the Star Wars, I just got bored with the first two, but yes, it's scientific, be it a science fiction or realistic science, it's still science and it still requires way more thinking than comedy movies, so your argument is as good as nothing.


There are plenty of sci-fi that requires little thought. Look at Parasyte. It's just grimdark bullshit, people dying and an enemy that can't be defeated.

Now compare it to a film like Burn After Reading or WataMote - one is full of clever lines and developed characters, the other is deeply psychological.

Transformers is considered sci-fi but is it intelligent?
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1) First of all, space anime isn't as dead. Mouretsu Uchuu Kaizoku, Knights of Sidonia and so on. I would add Gargantia and Rinne no Lagrange to the list.

2) Yes, space just isn't as much focus of sci-fi as it used to be. Until the next breakthrough in space tech (orbital lift? warp drive?) don't expect things to change.
It's stuff like Coppelion, Dennou Coil, Cencoroll, Koukaku no Pandora and SAO that are more relevant now.
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Otaku now are into slice of life , ecchi harems etc. so there is less focus on space opera.

Because life seems just as within reach as space was for earlier generations.

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If a space opera had a ton of waifus and a harem MC falling into boob grabs, it would be popular, I guarantee it.

Knights of Sidonia had these things. Mouretsu Uchuu Kaizoku disposed of the "harem protagonist" part and went with a lot of waifus.
Until romance/marriage/sex start working better for the Japanese, expect a lot of sexuality in most works as a standard. Regardless of what the genre is supposed to be.

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So you are saying shounens with good/bad guys and school harems require more intelligence to understand than let's say space anime ?

Yes, exactly. Because most writers aren't science people at all. They don't know anything about delta-V or whether their ray guns are particle accelerators or lasers.
And if anything needs to be understood, it will be explained to viewers anyway.

Anime like Soukou no Strain, which actually tackle advanced physics and their effects on humans and warfare, are very rare in space anime.

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It's sad I know. Most people want cute girls doing cute things and space isn't really that cute... Well, it's rather cute actually.

Rocket Girls fits the description, I guess. Also, tight-fitting spacesuits.
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Ah soap operas..so dramatic and yet so wonderfully cheesy : ).
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The OP lists works that are more or less five years in between each other. If you compare the last two seasons to thirty years it's easy to find them lacking of anything you want. I assume your question is more of a "why can't we have an instant classic that's in the same level as canon classics?". And the easy answer is because those kinds of things come from huge risks and industry has never been a fun of risks.

Gundam and Gunbuster were works in which a young team tried to do something to stand out and shake a popular genre. If the genre isn't popular you won't have punks trying to renew it to prove themselves.

LotGH is a 100+ episode OVA. Can you even imagine anyone willing to pay for something like that? It's just stupid in the eyes of a producer. Even when you have a best seller original material that will assure hundreds of millions of fans you have to keep your fingers crossed to get more than one season, and we're talking modern 20 ep seasons and not those crazy 50 or 70 monsters from the 80's.

With Macross you have to understand that before having a plot they had a toy and a toy company interested. It was a different market willing to sink a huge amount of money to get even more, when now you can spend nothing and get the same amount just from regular merch that the audience will buy out of obligation. It's a different market to present things, there used to be money in futuristic designs and now there's more in digital products and figures.

Lastly, you have people working on the genre. It was already mentioned Moretsu, Sidonia, Tytania, all of those are entirely new projects (as in, not counting on the nostalgia factor as in the new Yamato or LotGH or Gundam). It's not that bad, you need a few dozens of Candidate for Godess to get a Macross.

TL;DR
-You're being unfair lumping together 30 years of failures.
-The market has moved outside of shiny robo toys.
-There are a few attempts every couple of years and eventually someone will nail it.
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When the new Lotgh comes out in 2017 I'm going to watch the first opening of the original lotgh and just flat out jack off to it. Once I'm done with that I will be fully ready to watch the new season.

I might also not be forums at that point as the community is going to be absolutely at its worst.

Probably because of people like me.
Brace yourself.

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When the new Lotgh comes out in 2017 I'm going to watch the first opening of the original lotgh and just flat out jack off to it. Once I'm done with that I will be fully ready to watch the new season.

I might also not be forums at that point as the community is going to be absolutely at its worst.

Probably because of people like me.


New LoGH is probably gonna be awful if the new manga it takes after is anything to go by. They completely ruined the mood and character designs.
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Noxious_ said:
When the new Lotgh comes out in 2017 I'm going to watch the first opening of the original lotgh and just flat out jack off to it. Once I'm done with that I will be fully ready to watch the new season.

I might also not be forums at that point as the community is going to be absolutely at its worst.

Probably because of people like me.


New LoGH is probably gonna be awful if the new manga it takes after is anything to go by. They completely ruined the mood and character designs.


Yeah I can't imagine a new artstyle with lotgh characters. It would be weird for me, but I generally don't look to deep into that.
Brace yourself.

Soon as LotGH 2017 comes out. The anime community is going to become so cancerous you will need to take cover and hide.
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They fell out of popularity, like anime longer than 12 episodes.

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Same thing that happened to all the Godfathers and Scarfaces.

The audience has changed. As well as the playing field for creating high quality work. There are tons of well-written slice-of-life/rom-coms out there (and a bit common, as well), so people don't really see the need to return to the old space opera just to produce quality works.
The standards for space opera have also changed. Stuff like LoGH, Macross and EVA are scratched off the menu and replaced with flashier, more modern titles like Interstellar, The Martian and Gravity that follow a more intriguing kind of direction and cinematography. People don't want a well-written space opera. They want a flashy well-written space opera.
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So you are saying shounens with good/bad guys and school harems require more intelligence to understand than let's say space anime ?

I've actually never fully seen the Star Wars, I just got bored with the first two, but yes, it's scientific, be it a science fiction or realistic science, it's still science and it still requires way more thinking than comedy movies, so your argument is as good as nothing.


There are plenty of sci-fi that requires little thought. Look at Parasyte. It's just grimdark bullshit, people dying and an enemy that can't be defeated.

Now compare it to a film like Burn After Reading or WataMote - one is full of clever lines and developed characters, the other is deeply psychological.

Transformers is considered sci-fi but is it intelligent?


So you basically take everything out of context and pick exactly what makes your argument stronger, doesn't matter that it doesn't fit the discussion.

First of all, this is a space anime thread, so we are talking about space scientific anime, parasyte has nothing to do with space whatsoever, so your argument is already a big 0. Transformers are not space sci-fi either and it's for children so it's already meant to be simple and childish. How is Burn After Reading and WataMote a battle shounen or a school harem ? You just literally gave random examples on random genres.

If you reply to my point at least make an effort to argue against what I said instead of randomly spouting out titles. What I'm saying is how Naruto, Fairy Tail, To Love-Ru, Yamada, Nisekoi etc. more intelligent than LotGH, USY2199, Uchuu Kyoudai ... ? They are all made for around similar age group, but ones are totally shitstorms of random crap and others require actual thinking.
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I haven't watched the space anime you listed, but are you sure that, say, Macross really requires more brains than Naruto?
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I haven't watched the space anime you listed, but are you sure that, say, Macross really requires more brains than Naruto?

I haven't seen it but tbh, probably not, because then again, it's a battle shounen like naruto, so you just probably lay down and let all the crap flow into your brain without a need to process it. Can't really say much else as I'm not familiar with the macross franchise but yeah, it could be an exception. There are always exceptions in genres, look at HxH, yeah it's a battle shounen, but it deals with more serious themes, then JoJo, it's one of my favorites, again, a battle shounen, but it's presented in an original way which makes it interesting. Also there are many school romances which are just cookie cutter dumb crap, but then there is something like White Album 2 or Sakamichi no Apollon, see where I'm going ? Generally space anime will be more brain tasking than school or shounen anime, but it doesn't mean that 100% of them will be like that, there are always exceptions everywhere.

Edit: Just checked you haven't seen many of the anime I listed, still, you can check covers/descriptions and you will know what I mean.
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Arse said:
I haven't seen it but tbh, probably not, because then again, it's a battle shounen like naruto, so you just probably lay down and let all the crap flow into your brain without a need to process it. Can't really say much else as I'm not familiar with the macross franchise but yeah, it could be an exception. There are always exceptions in genres, look at HxH, yeah it's a battle shounen, but it deals with more serious themes, then JoJo, it's one of my favorites, again, a battle shounen, but it's presented in an original way which makes it interesting. Also there are many school romances which are just cookie cutter dumb crap, but then there is something like White Album 2 or Sakamichi no Apollon, see where I'm going ? Generally space anime will be more brain tasking than school or shounen anime, but it doesn't mean that 100% of them will be like that, there are always exceptions everywhere.


Just wondering... What will make space anime be more brain tasking than school or shounen anime for you? Also, what makes those shows you mentioned here your favorites (or those shows within my favorite anime section my favorites)? I know my own answer here, but I am curious about what's your take here first.
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Just be patient, more space opera will come. Gundam and Macross may be popular atm, but other contenders will come.
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BlackMageNo1 said:

Just wondering... What will make space anime be more brain tasking than school or shounen anime for you? Also, what makes those shows you mentioned here your favorites (or those shows within my favorite anime section my favorites)? I know my own answer here, but I am curious about what's your take here first.


Space anime usually involve things such as : humanity nearly extinct, space warps, shows how vast space is, new planets, physics in space, movement in different gravities, constructing spaceships, wormholes, hi-tech weaponry, black holes etc. etc., they all make you think how they happen, why they happen, could it happen in real life etc.

Now take generic shounens and school harems, what do they have that could require thinking ? Ninjas jumping on trees ? Pirates sailing through sea ? Guy falling and accidentally pulling girl's panties ? Girls swarming a nerd without a real reason just to appeal for otaku nerds ? The only brain tasking thing in these anime is 'how the fuck do people enjoy them that much ?'.

Most of my favorite anime are thought provoking, differently interpretable, show what can truly happen irl, original in their story and the way they are presented, mature and not fully understandable for the younger audience. That's how I would describe my favs. You can call me an edgy mfker, I don't give a damn.
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It's still around, as SPACE DANDY showed.

It's just not so popular now, given how many other anime genres there are.
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TheBrainintheJar said:


Space is automatic intelligence, right?

Star Wars is scientific?


It's more like a fantasy with lightsabers.

I hope in the future there will be more hard sci-fi series like Planetes.
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wasnt there like a Macross Triangle last year or something?
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Last big stuff I remember coming out was Spaceship Yamato 2199, although I don't remember if it was that famous or not at the time. Maybe with the new LOGH show we start seeing some more space opera related shows...
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wasnt there like a Macross Triangle last year or something?


It was Macross Delta, with ''delta" being the capital of the forth letter in the Greek alphabet. And it was only a special, the TV series should air this spring or summer.

Aside Sidonia, Terraformars has the potential to shape as a space opera and Fafner wasn't that far, despite the action taking place on Earth.

Space operas need more episodes to develop and deliver, and perhaps this depends significantly on the source potential to par market success. Meaning, it would be difficult to produce a series which will grab the audience or the market together.
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