86--EIGHTY-SIX (light novel)
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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Welp, looks like back to the frontline action with this episode. Also interesting to see storytelling about Eugene and his connection with Shin. At the time, it felt like he had a brotherly-like bond with him. Shin and Eugene has a rather interesting relationship imo in the show, especially this season so far. |
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| Out from town, and straight into the battlefield, which is back to Chapter 1. Shin is still the same Reaper demonic coldness from before, and the others can't take the fact that 86-ers like him bear such a personality (which unforunately is down to personal perception). Wokring under Grethe Wenzel of the 1028th Test Unit, the 86-ers are in a perfect place under the Nordlicht squadron. Fido is resurrected with the help of Grethe (and Frederica being the squadron mascot), and that at least lightens up the 86-ers mood. This is for the start of Chapter 4. Going back to finish the remainings of Chapter 1, against the Legion, the Giad Federacy stands no chance, and the 86-ers (at least for Shin's performance) with their extensive experience piloting Republic Juggernauts before, now in the new Reginleif, he's a force to be reckoned with. Frederica has problems clearing her mushrooms, and Shin isn't being too light on her as well, which makes the former Empress kinda of a kid being taken care of as the squadron mascot. For Eugene, his little sister is recouerating under their relatives, but the war is making things difficult for them to survive, and this Legion battle is not letting up, which leads to the scene of Eugene's death. A solemn and sad death, but what's death if the Legion aren't done. Every episode is turning out to be spectacular. |
KANLen09Oct 16, 2021 9:59 AM
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| Shin and his friends decide to enroll in a special military academy. Shin, who had survived the harsh battlefield as a Spearhead squadron, showed his fighting skills even in the military school and shocked the surroundings. Getting a reprimand from the instructor, rather than having to enjoy peaceful days, Shin would rather go to the battlefield. Somehow many robot carcasses make me nostalgic, is that you? I hope that the masou military academy scene continues, it's still too early for the battlefield besides, I also want to see Milize. I don't know why Enoki mushrooms are not very popular, is the taste too bad? Look at Frederica's face, xD. It's still the episodeb3 and a corpse has appeared even though it's just. The god of death just joining the battlefield  |
| No better way to start my birthday than with an amazing episode of 86. This is an episode that we(LN readers) all knew was coming, but man seeing Eugene in pain like that was hard. I love how A-1 recreated the anguish of that moment both for Eugene and Shin. |
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| So... now that they've decided to head back to where they came from, they need to go through the special military training from the academy as the condition stated by Ernst and tagging along with them is their cute sister Frederica. LOL. As expected from Shin and his years of experience on the battlefield, he's just in a different league from everyone around him. I didn't expect to see Eugene here as well but hey, I like the guy even tho he's only been here for one episode so far. Frederica is funny and cute and other than that, I don't wanna say anything... :( Idk how Eugene's cute sister will react. It's sad to even imagine that. It's just nice to see the face of frontline once again in the show, for the first time in this season. |
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| Well, back to the war for the Spearhead squadron. It’s a shame that the Giad soldiers find them to frightening, but considering how the 86 have fought in far inferior machinery, they’re simply much more adept to battle than the Giad soldiers. The nice that Giad honored the fallen 86 soldier that Shin had the names of. Not only that, but Fido was restored too! And Frederica made it to the battlefield as a mascot, lol. RIP, the handgun that was given to Shin has immediate use. Sucks that Eugene had to go and it'll be hard to break the news to his little sister. Great episode overall. We got a little bit of chapter 4 adapted and most of chapter 1 adapted in this episode. Glad that they chose to adapt it chronologically, since that gave Eugene's death more impact than it had in the novels. |
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| It's time for the special military academy. Shin is pretty much above the rest and it shows how great he actually is. I'm glad for Fido's return. And the action scenes were absolutely amazing. The CGI was just perfect. Seems like the peaceful days will be gone soon and straight up back to the battlefield. Frederica was pretty adorable as always. That one scene with Eugeune was pretty hard but for the rest, another epic episode. |
SideCharacterKalOct 16, 2021 11:27 AM
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| This episode was such a rollercoaster. On one hand, Fido is back. And the whole squad his happy to have him back; and on the other hand, Eugene. It was so sad, seeing him lying in his own blood like that. Shin, as usual, put it out of his misery at least. |
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| Looks like they already started their training, well it was quite obvious after last episode and now they are part of Giad's Military force. Pretty much battlefield's the only place they can find themselves at peace. Frederica being their mascot, well you need someone to light up the mood every now and then but still I found her pretty annoying. Good to see atleast Eugene bonding well with Shin, but really wasn't expecting something like that after their talk. Another great episode, the quality just keeps getting impressive. |
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| I love that Fido is back, did not expect that at all. Eugene's death was abrupt but that's how war is unfortunately, gruesome. |
| A-1 is killing this adaption. 86 every week is just stellar. Special stuff going on here. |
| Great episode as always. When Fido came back, I was grinning. That conversation between Shin and Fido was very emotional especially when he asked why Fido didn't see his duty till the end but eventually asked him if he wanted to go back home together. With the conversation between Eugene and Shin during the meal I knew it wasn't gonna end well for Eugene but to see him in such a gruesome state was heartbreaking but alas, such is war. :( |
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I got chills at this moment... |
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| Now that was an impressive feat for Shinn. Its funny that Marcel is complaining about the new mechs for the 86 not having any safety measures though and calling them crazy. Back home such features were things the republic neglected to put in. The memorial though was a nice gesture on the Federacy's part. Im so glad that Shin's oldest friend Fido was able to return in a brand new form. Frederica defo fits the role of a mascot though. With both Fido and his sidearm back looks like Shinn is finally back. The Giad front though sure looks rough but Shinn's team is proving to be quite the force multiplier needed to support it. But man RIP Eugene such a gentle and kind person taken from us far too soon. Overall an excellent ep that while doing well in showcasing how Shinn and his friends are faring within the military also did well to show the kind of tension that exists within the military to their integration into their ranks. The way that i see it i don't Shinn would have been able to save Eugene even if had tried as his injuries were far too severe. Poor Nina though never being able to see her bro again. |
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| The first half is Shin training on site with Eugene in the Vanagandr. And they adapt the jumping zero scene. Then the spearhead squad comes at the memorial landmark, which they rest there comrades dogtags and juggernauts. The next scene is Fido reunion which surprised them. The OST is great this scene. The second half is about the real fight on the battlefield in Eugene perspective. Then he was saved by the new mobility type Reginleif. The CGI on the fight is good and the new drone is cool. And the last part which is graphic than the LN and you can feel the sadness of the scene and how gruesome it is. Overall its great episode |
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| It was... an episode. The moments with Eugene, Shin and Frederica bonding and then sudden cut to him dying on the ground after was pretty tough and well-executed, particularly for a character who didn't really have much time in this series. Gravestone bit was nice too. Rest of the episode felt a bit boring to me, something I haven't said much with this show beforehand. Don't blame the staff though, they did the best they could considering how slow and stagnant the 2nd volume felt in the middle and how dull that was to me first read. I liked the second volume more when I reread it but its again not aging the best for me. A pretty mixed bag episode as a whole, with some great little moments on top of a pretty transition-like episode that wasn't that entertaining. Would have liked to see more actual training though before those five graduated, just to add on top of novel content. |
animejas said: yes I agree, it felt kind of rushed and boring but idk might be because the source material is that way. The fight scenes in between were fire thoughIt was... an episode. The moments with Eugene, Shin and Frederica bonding and then sudden cut to him dying on the ground after was pretty tough and well-executed, particularly for a character who didn't really have much time in this series. Gravestone bit was nice too. Rest of the episode felt a bit boring to me, something I haven't said much with this show beforehand. Don't blame the staff though, they did the best they could considering how slow and stagnant the 2nd volume felt in the middle and how dull that was to me first read. I liked the second volume more when I reread it but its again not aging the best for me. A pretty mixed bag episode as a whole, with some great little moments on top of a pretty transition-like episode that wasn't that entertaining. Would have liked to see more actual training though before those five graduated, just to add on top of novel content. |
| That went fast. When I heard they are going to school I expected whole school arc lol. Euhene was a walking death flag, no surprise here. |
| What a rollercoaster of an episode. Starting from the back flip on the Vánagandr (man was that great to see it animated), to the 86 memorial with Fido making a comeback, and then ending with the sudden death of Eugene. The latter one I wasn't expecting to see it so graphic, it was a welcome addition nonetheless since it made the moment more grim. Props for A1 for the excellent visual storytelling, especially when it matters to Shin's expressions. He may come across as uncaring or stoic, but those sudden brief changes in expressions tell so much about what he is feeling on some of these scenes. Can't wait to see his expression when the expected letter comes in the following episode. Also looking forward to the backlash that Marcel will get from the anime onlies lol. |
KaitonOct 16, 2021 10:37 AM
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CreepHazard said: yes I agree, it felt kind of rushed and boring but idk might be because the source material is that way. The fight scenes in between were fire though Definitely a source thing. A-1's done well with the anime with more than just the animation for fight scenes but volume 2 stuff is generally a lot more slower and personally, a lot less interesting/entertaining than volume 1 stuff and apart from a great episode 1, I've felt a bit indifferent to the start of the season so far. |
animejas said: mhmCreepHazard said: yes I agree, it felt kind of rushed and boring but idk might be because the source material is that way. The fight scenes in between were fire though Definitely a source thing. A-1's done well with the anime with more than just the animation for fight scenes but volume 2 stuff is generally a lot more slower and personally, a lot less interesting/entertaining than volume 1 stuff and apart from a great episode 1, I've felt a bit indifferent to the start of the season so far. I haven't read the ln yet, but from what I know 3rf volume is supposed to be better, so |
| Pacing really picking up it seems. F in the chat for Eugene. Was gonna say it's a very sick tradition to have a little girl join a squad to be some supporting mascot character, so I was glad to hear from Eugene that it's an old tradition no one really follows anymore. |
| Damn. Probably now the rest of the soldiers will avoid Shin even more, like some kind of stupid superstition, if you approach him, you will die soon. |
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| I felt that death coming... He started to gushed about his dreams and aspirations for once the war was over, despite the war not getting any better. Didn't think it would be that abrupt though, that jump cut caught me off guard. The death scene and the sequence following it was so good, I'm really loving this adaptation. |
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| I knew Eugene's death was coming since that huge red flag when he started talking about what he'd like to do with his sister once he can see her again. But I didn't expect him to die in the same episode. It's really depressing, and Shin shooting him to save him from the pain was so reminiscent of what he used to do in the 1st season as well. On the other hand, Fido coming back made me extremely happy. I hope next episode will have a scene with Lena, I wonder what she's been doing all these months. |
| oh shet best boi Fido had the true plot armour all along. Shame silver-hair dude couldn't share the same, fastest death flag in the west lol |
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
| First episode back on the battlefield and we already have a major casualty with Eugene dying. He wasn't really a major character, wasn't around for that long, and his death flags were obvious, but it was still pretty sad. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. |
| From what I can remember, this part of the light novel with the training stuff was actually quite underwhelming and the weakest part of the story imho. That's why there wasn't a lot of training shown, which can make some of the episode a bit tiring for many people. It's extremely nice to see Fido return, that reunion legit nearly made me tear up. As expected, Shinei and co still experience discrimination, except this time not in the form of racism; being very experienced and used to battle themselves, they are under scutiny of the other trainees. According to Asato herself, the character Eugene was given 2 traits that were supposed to evoke memories of influential people in Shin's life: glasses and brotherly figure to remind him of his late brother Rei, and the hair of an Alba so he would be reminded of Lena. On a final note, I DID NOT remember Eugene's death looking THAT gruesome in the novels. The anime really decided to take it to a new level this season with depicting death here. Other than that, another solid episode, though I don't expect anyone who's still having mixed feelings about this season or the series overall to have this change their mind anytime soon. |
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| Fido is back!!! that was great, but Eugene is dead... damn, even when there is a good event it needs to end in a dramatic way, RIP. |
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| Fantastic episode. Now I just need a button to fast forward time to when Lena appears again, because I'm really starting to miss her... and waiting for the next ep without knowing if she'll be in it ain't helping. |
| Haunting Episode.Shin and others join the Special Military Academy and as they are battle hardened troops they are much better than others. Shin's cold and emotionless self scares the others. Eugene Shin relationship is pretty emotional and they way it ended.Eugene was a good friend to Shin but sadly he died. The positive scenes of this episode was definitely Fido returning. |
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| dang i hate it when a character talks about their future and you know theyre gonna end up dead T-T also did anyone notice how shinei looks kinda like levi from a side profile??? |
| Remembering how athletic the Juggernaut's movement's in the first cour when Shin was piloting it. Shin's backflip in the Vánagandr to avoid a collision didn't go too well with the superiors. The Federacy made a gesture of recording the names of the fallen, but Shin would rather have someone he knows to remember him, but all's good that they repaired Fido. Some XM2 Reginleif vs Legion action. Cute Frederica moments to soothe the pain to come. Damn, that is way more graphic seeing it in colour. The voice in his final moments where he asks Shin to show him the picture of Nina was a great performance; kudos to Eugene's VA. Breaking the news to Nina is going to be hard. Also, notice that they show a pair of red flowers earlier in the episode and Eugene's blood later splatters over a white flower. |
Fortress_MaximusOct 17, 2021 6:59 AM
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| This is the second tense episode I watched today. Shin and the rest of the 86 are back on the battlefield now they have graduated from the academy. Shin was doing some training exercises with Eugene. He seems to be getting along with Eugene, but Shin's cold actions is starting to rub some of the other guys the wrong way. Before going back to the battlefield, Frederica surprised them with a newly rebuilt Fido to provide support once again and she also tags along with them. I had a feeling Eugene was going to die one he started talking about his aspirations while he was sharing a meal with Shin. He ended up dying in the most gruesome way and Shin living up to his undertaker code name put Eugene out of his misery and collect his dog tag. Once his actions rubs the other guys the wrong way, but somebody has to do the dirty work. It just goes to show that even on the Giad Federation Front, the Legion are still a fearsome opponent. Marinate1016 said: No better way to start my birthday than with an amazing episode of 86. This is an episode that we(LN readers) all knew was coming, but man seeing Eugene in pain like that was hard. I love how A-1 recreated the anguish of that moment both for Eugene and Shin. My birthday is tomorrow, so Happy Birthday!!! Enjoy the rest of your day. |
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| Spearhead squadron are back to the frontlines! They rebuilt Fido which is great and Shin got his gun back. Frederica is now their ‘mascot’ as well. Really liked this episode and looking forward to the next episode! |
| AISHITERU...REM! |
| Oh boy... Welling up with joy, then welling up with sadness. And I think the CG on the mechs may just have been turned up another notch. Awesome stuff. |
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| I was happy and I also cried, this anime has it all, and it has proven to be a great rollercoaster ride for me. 1500th forum post... Shin is leagues beyond the new recruits, and I mean...he and the others had been through hell, the others are just ghasted by the feels of it that they carry. But first, I AM HAPPY to see Fido again, the robot really did impact me from the first season, and seeing him back is worth a rejoice. Also Shin's reaper pistol is returned, as well as their mecha vehicles, and to respect their fallen comrades, they managed to gave them a memorial plaque with their names on it, that is just so lovely....alright now time to revert to sadness. Eugene, oh my boi, when the camera stared at your eyes as you explains to Shin how you want to go to a vacation with your little sis, you're immediately tagged with the flag of- NO HE DI3D, this is so sad!!! Even if I can joke that he's had been flagged with death, you can't deny how once again this show tugs us with these death scenes. He was a nice guy and unfortunately his comrades treated the reaper with disdain and disrespect, like bro. This show once again treated us with a great episode, and sadly though Fido may have revived, we'll leave behind Eugene in such a painful way. It's just another day for Shin the Undertaker, it's just another day... |
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| It was great and a touching moment to see Fido back! Seems I care more about Fido than about some characters... oh well! The moment Eugene sat at the table with Shin and saying about going to the zoo or shopping with his little sister, I yelled "Death flag!"... That sure didn't take long. Welcome back Shin a.k.a. Reaper. |
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