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Fai said: I mean its not like political intrigue and conflict between survivors is that rare in zombie genre. Neither is scifi experiments on zombies. True. But if creative team is going to recycle same plot points they should drastically change execution. Otherwise, everyone and their mother will draw parallels with AoT. |
| Well that was intense. Wonder if they can keep up these impressive visuals. |
| And now we have the engine of our hype train this season. The third series using the same formula from the studio of Shingeki no Kyojin and Owari no Seraph. So far it looks more promising than both of those. |
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| Good shit. Ikoma's a great MC and Mumei's an awesome heroine. The shit Ikoma did to get rid of the virus was insane DAMN! Art is cool and the brutality is nice. Let's see how WIT does this |
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| So the Kabene are basically zombies right |
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DrBlock42 said: Am I the only one who did not understand the end? How does strangling yourself help to kill a VIRUS? animu logic But in reality, if the virus traveled via blood vessels (which is plausible seeing how his arm turned purple and at such a quick pace,) then he would have to block them off before it reached his brain. It's a technique that a lot of doctors use for various reasons, except they don't do it with strangling machines. Also, he probably used the hot piece of coal (or metal?) to seal the wound off. |
Heldengeist said: And now we have the engine of our hype train this season. The third series using the same formula from the studio of Shingeki no Kyojin and Owari no Seraph. So far it looks more promising than both of those. And all are animated by the same studio (Well, their only works, since WIT studio is a new studio) |
Fai said: MajorZero said: It's a bit early to judge how intentional or not this capitalization is. If they gonna throw political intrigues, bioweapons and other stuff in later episodes it'll be more indicative. But then again, how much of that is "its because of AOT" and how much of that is because its zombie genre tropes? I mean its not like political intrigue and conflict between survivors is that rare in zombie genre. Neither is scifi experiments on zombies. I agree with you that snk didn't create anything new per say, just like 99% of anime out there. But you can't deny that this was inspired by snk. I doubt they would even make a series like this if snk wasn't popular. Snk is what repopularized this gebre in anime. I dont get the "these guys always do the samething part" as in having stunning art and animation? Because there's few similarities between this and snk, and I'm pretty sure they purposely did it that way. Anyways, this series does has some similarities wih snk since it was inspired from it, but I think it was different enough to be it's own thing than a snk rip off. I will put this in the grey area. |
keragammingApr 8, 2016 3:56 AM
shanimebib said: Xenocrisi said: I don't see anything wrong with the pictures above. No salts here. Just stating the pudding. In open broad daylight, they make a train stop to make sure it's safe and even inspect the people on board stark naked for injuries and in the darkness of night, they lower the bridge to let it in without a second thought when the train was not even on sight. You may justify with the dumb nobody who lowered the bridge though but yeah, there was his superior giving instructions as well. You're wrong. They didn't make the train stop in the middle of the bridge to inspect them, they let them enter then they did the inspection. The second train would get that same inspection if things didn't turn to the worst. The first train was not expected to come at that hour so the train had to wait for them to let them pass. The second train was on time that's why things were faster. This episode was awesome. Such a good character design and animation. I'm ready for more. |
KaeUBWApr 8, 2016 3:41 AM
I despise woke people. |
| As I expected - If it comes to art - it looks really nice. But story.. well, I assume it's not my thing. I will watch next episodes, but I don't know whether I could stand it. SNK vibes, which is not an advantage for me... rather disadvantage. And soundtrack? Well, it's shitty for me. It sounds like something from 'murican blockbuster, boring as hell. 3/5 ONLY BECAUSE OF ART. It will be probably most hyped anime of this season. And again, I won't be hyping this like SNK, TG, NGNL and other similar typical hyped productions. |
rsc-plApr 8, 2016 3:51 AM
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
jojo_kyle said: I'm sorry bro but you're either stupid, illterate or just watched this episode without subs. The first image you saw is NOT how they normally handle the trains. In the image above this trains is off schedule because of the kabane, normally if they had come on time the team would have let down the bridge so they can pass in. In the second train entrance scene, the workers specifically say "It's here! It's the housoyga"(name of the train) "It's here on time" The bridge drops so that the train can come in slowly without coming to a full stop, this is how they normally have been doing it for 20 years. There is no writing flaw here, just you playing dumb and not paying attention when you should have been. your thought aside, i still feel it is somehow unreasonable to just drop the bridge i mean this disease is very dangerous right? and they should know that the kabane can hang on to the train, i mean the way the kabane enter the city is too easy it felt stupid if this was real and if they want to make this anime more realistic everytimes any train comes they should have a procedure that make it stop before lowering down the bridge and check if there is any KABANE hanging on to the train or somehow send a light/sound signal to the train and if the driver replied that 'yeah ok we're fine here' and then you can lower down the bridge....... right? |
| It has that Attack on Titan + D.Gray Man feels ughhh I .... I LURVES IT :V |
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xSkipi said: Aaaw man this is going to be epic ! I really really really looking forward watching it next week (omg EGOIST （*´▽｀*）) Gave me serious Attack on Titan vibes. Looks like this is gonna be a great anime. |
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na35899 said: jojo_kyle said: I'm sorry bro but you're either stupid, illterate or just watched this episode without subs. The first image you saw is NOT how they normally handle the trains. In the image above this trains is off schedule because of the kabane, normally if they had come on time the team would have let down the bridge so they can pass in. In the second train entrance scene, the workers specifically say "It's here! It's the housoyga"(name of the train) "It's here on time" The bridge drops so that the train can come in slowly without coming to a full stop, this is how they normally have been doing it for 20 years. There is no writing flaw here, just you playing dumb and not paying attention when you should have been. your thought aside, i still feel it is somehow unreasonable to just drop the bridge i mean this disease is very dangerous right? and they should know that the kabane can hang on to the train, i mean the way the kabane enter the city is too easy it felt stupid if this was real and if they want to make this anime more realistic everytimes any train comes they should have a procedure that make it stop before lowering down the bridge and check if there is any KABANE hanging on to the train or somehow send a light/sound signal to the train and if the driver replied that 'yeah ok we're fine here' and then you can lower down the bridge....... right? It probably isn't easy and feasible to just stop trains everywhere or anywhere at will. Takes a lot of infrastructure in the first place and just starting and stopping the trains back in the earlier eras is probably pretty difficult and takes a lot of initial procedures etc I guess? But regarding the design of the city, they should check trains further from the actual residential houses lol, or have a large open field, or something lel. |
| I like trains Not sure if I really like the looks of this anime though |
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| I'm torn. I like it but somehow don't like it too because its like a copy paste of SnK with some little variation. Anyway, nice 1st episode. |
LeFlower-kun said: na35899 said: your thought aside, i still feel it is somehow unreasonable to just drop the bridge i mean this disease is very dangerous right? and they should know that the kabane can hang on to the train, i mean the way the kabane enter the city is too easy it felt stupid if this was real and if they want to make this anime more realistic everytimes any train comes they should have a procedure that make it stop before lowering down the bridge and check if there is any KABANE hanging on to the train or somehow send a light/sound signal to the train and if the driver replied that 'yeah ok we're fine here' and then you can lower down the bridge....... right? It probably isn't easy and feasible to just stop trains everywhere or anywhere at will. Takes a lot of infrastructure in the first place and just starting and stopping the trains back in the earlier eras is probably pretty difficult and takes a lot of initial procedures etc I guess? But regarding the design of the city, they should check trains further from the actual residential houses lol, or have a large open field, or something lel. i think there need to be a procedure/rule/common sense that all train driver should know that they need to stop or slow down the train to stop when they are about to reach a city because they need time to open the gate or in this case drop down the bridge it's not smart when the train is at full speed and then you drop down the bridge right? and the only gate way in and out of a city that survive a pandemic for 20 years is somehow operate by a stupid lever and a stupid peasant.... - - |
| Wow wow Calm down. The pace is too fast, it made the first impression kinda messed up. So much happening in 22 minutes with no build up which turn into unexplained plots and they just cover it with Sawano's music and gorgeous artwork. But i am not saying it's a bad anime though... |
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| That was an amazing episode. Impressive visuals, likeable protagonist and interesting lore and setting. Those are probably the coolest looking zombies I've ever seen. And they seem to have more functionality than typical zombies, as they operated the train, and I think that Kanbari came through the roof because he knew it was bait. They seem to posses some remaining intelligence. Very minor but the only thing I don't like is the design for the feamle characters (like they were drawn by the artist of I''s and Ichigo 100%, and that princess character looks like she is going to be awful.) Definitely thought it was better than Attack on Titan first episode. Hope it stays consistent in all departments. Wish I could marathon all of it now 5/5 Heh. Kaiji Yuki is voicing the fat supporting character. Hope that is another sign that he won't be getting any lead roles anymore |
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| Felt a bit rushed, but I guess it was okay. I like Ikoma so far, he seems like he might actually be kinda smart. I just hope he doesn't take a sudden turn & winds up being Eren 2.0. I also hope Mumei doesn't wind up being as bland & practically flawless at everything she does, without a legitimate reason as to why she is, like Mikasa was. Also, I agree with those criticizing the procedure surrounding the trains. You'd think it would be smarter to have a separate section outside the walls where they can check the trains to make sure kadanes are not inside or hanging off the sides. But nope! |
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| I saw this anime some time last year And I have been waiting for it ever since. It was well worth the wait! This is my favourite so far this season! I normally don't like zombies and anime with tons of blood. But I think can easily look past it in this and looks at the other great aspects of the show. This seems a lot like attack on titan of course. But it is different! They aren't being wreckt and training to kill over 10 episodes just to be killed by them. They are killing them episode one! I don't like attack on titan as much as I like this already. I wanna know what that he was tied to his hand is. A memo of his mother who has obviously killed by the kobane? The train was obviously going to have kobane on it. I predicted that the second they showed the train in the tunnel. Bit too obvious and stupid of the characters. Lets hope they move away from that please... |
| This looks amazing so far, seem a bit rushed. But pretty amazing. Having seen a zombie based anime in a while. The OST was pretty cool, giving it an Attack on Titan feeling to it. This is an anime to look out for this Spring. Can't wait for more. |
| "Can't wait for the Unexpected" |
| okay i see people complaining about how in the beginning of the episode we learn that you need to blow up your heart if you don't want to turn into a kabane but then ikoma suppresses the virus by not letting it get to his brain, and that people haven't figured out any proper ways to deal with the kabane in 20 years. so this is how it made sense to me. i don't think the way ikoma did his thing could really work, because if you look at the scene it looked more like it was more like ikoma's "willpower" (yeah lol) that stopped the virus (or maybe he was just so confident it would work) because we clearly saw the infection get past the collar. but that is not necessary, this is fiction after all. maybe we don't yet now everything about the virus and how it works. anyway, let's just say ikoma's hanging device does work. it's made really, really clear how much people fear the kabane. they've infiltrated into many fortresses and hell, they eat people and are very hard to kill, thus, they're scary as fuck. ikoma is smart and doesn't fear the kabane like most people, he's actually studied kabane and the virus, so it fully makes sense he has invented new ways to fight the infection when most people fear kabane so much they only try to get rid of them as fast as possible. also, the way they deal with the trains does make sense. of course, stopping the train outside of the fortresses makes them very easy for the kabane to jump onto, so they do not stop the train unless it's inside a fortress. and they have bushi, who fight the kabane if they do get on the train, so that >should< be pretty foolproof way to deal with them, or at least so they think. anyway, i'm really loving the setting and the animation is so cool, i'm really looking forward to see how this series will turn out. |
| I thought I saw a Miyazaki inspired series. Looks like Princess Mononoke with zombies instead of demons. |
#CHEXIT |
| Every cliché in the book was present here, but still enjoyable in the sit down, turn of your brain and eat popcorn kinda way. Haruhiko MIkimoto's character designs are absolutely gorgeous. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| What an enthralling premiere. The Shingeki vibe was indeed strong, however, I did not mind at all. At least the cast seems more promising in this case (I am looking at you, Eren), the main character is a true badass. I do approve the sublime steampunk atmosphere as well. It ought to be an entertaining ride. |
| How in the fuck did they even last this long? They're that paranoid about the zombies but they immediately lower the bridge for the train. |
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| I don't like it very much, this is totally Shingeki no Kyojin, the ED song confirmed it's SnK. I didn't really enjoy the episode as well, too fast paced Production was a mess. 2/5 |
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| Attack on Titan meets steam-punk & zombies, good first episode. |
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SHiNRei_YaGaMi said: I'm not even a big fan but had to say SnK clone is SnK clone I didn't get an SNK feel at all. SNK made you feel humanity was fucked, at least at first, even with their magical spider man packs. This just makes me think humanity is fucking stupid for not being able to deal with something that isn't a credible threat. Partly this was because they had to make the two main characters seem like uber badasses for all the little boys watching. All these chunibyous can't identify with anyone less powerful than themselves or have a waifu who isn't better than all other waifus. |
shanimebib said:   If you can rationalize the two pictures above you will realize plot wise how bad the first episode was. I will not say more. Everything reeked Shingeki no Kyojin. But I gotta give credits where it's due. I think the MCs are likable so far so it's still watchable. After the first impression, I am not gonna give this more than a 6.5/10 if it doesn't improve. I can rationalize it: The Koutetsujou arrived early, hence the gatemen weren't stationed. That's why it took a while to open the gate. They would usually let the train in and then do the inspection. The second time, the train arrived on time so the gate was already open as scheduled but the guardsman panicked because the train was out of control. If you can't deduce that and just spit assumptions then this show probably isn't for you. Stick to simple anime. |
Xenocrisi said: Cirris said: I want to like the show. But I'm so over the "zombie apocalypse" wave. In just 2 anime there is a zombie apocalypse, and this is the 3rd one. I don't get why you are saying you are done with it. I'm referring to all media entertainment. Not just Anime. And I was never a big fan of the monster trope anyways. I tend to prefer intelligent antagonists monsters. Not mindless ones. |
| With this it seems like this season has basically everything covered. This has an extremely big enjoyment factor going for it and I think a lot of people will get their good share of action. I just hope that we find a pretty good balance this season so that shows that have a completely different direction and appeal to them like Bungou Stray Dogs, Re:Zero and BNHA will be able to coexist and not overshadow each other. |
keragamming said: I agree with you that snk didn't create anything new per say, just like 99% of anime out there. But you can't deny that this was inspired by snk. I doubt they would even make a series like this if snk wasn't popular. Snk is what repopularized this gebre in anime. Except that zombie craze has been going on for a while and there has been shitloads of zombie movies in past few years. I dont get the "these guys always do the samething part" as in having stunning art and animation? Because there's few similarities between this and snk, and I'm pretty sure they purposely did it that way. Director does not animate he directs. I don't think I need to explain that. And its very easy to notice who directs what Just like you can recognize a Kubrick or Lynch movie, you can recognize an anime director(even if thats way lower talent level). Even via animators, its easy to feel Yutaka Nakamura working on a scene because of various elements like his love for yutapon cubes. . Araki likes certain shots and certain tone of the work that he uses in absolutely everything he directs. They are in Death Note, they are in this, they are in kurozuka, they are in guilty crown, etc etc.. Likewise with composers, while some try to innovate, most of composers or overall musicians stay in their safezones - Metallica sounds like Metallica and that sort of thing. Sawano has certain ropes he employs in everything he does - the same style orchestral cues, the same style broken german and english vocals etc. Just like with Kajiura Yuki, most of Sawano's songs sound the same be it a trainwrecky mecha tv show, Gundam or a freaking video game |
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ReaperCreeper said: How in the fuck did they even last this long? They're that paranoid about the zombies but they immediately lower the bridge for the train. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1498843&show=300#msg45518709 And it's implied that it's not uncommon for stations to get overrun by those things. |
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MysteriousBanana said: allewn said: okay i see people complaining about how in the beginning of the episode we learn that you need to blow up your heart if you don't want to turn into a kabane but then ikoma suppresses the virus by not letting it get to his brain, and that people haven't figured out any proper ways to deal with the kabane in 20 years. so this is how it made sense to me. i don't think the way ikoma did his thing could really work, because if you look at the scene it looked more like it was more like ikoma's "willpower" (yeah lol) that stopped the virus (or maybe he was just so confident it would work) because we clearly saw the infection get past the collar. but that is not necessary, this is fiction after all. maybe we don't yet now everything about the virus and how it works. anyway, let's just say ikoma's hanging device does work. it's made really, really clear how much people fear the kabane. they've infiltrated into many fortresses and hell, they eat people and are very hard to kill, thus, they're scary as fuck. ikoma is smart and doesn't fear the kabane like most people, he's actually studied kabane and the virus, so it fully makes sense he has invented new ways to fight the infection when most people fear kabane so much they only try to get rid of them as fast as possible. also, the way they deal with the trains does make sense. of course, stopping the train outside of the fortresses makes them very easy for the kabane to jump onto, so they do not stop the train unless it's inside a fortress. and they have bushi, who fight the kabane if they do get on the train, so that >should< be pretty foolproof way to deal with them, or at least so they think. anyway, i'm really loving the setting and the animation is so cool, i'm really looking forward to see how this series will turn out. My theory is that he didn't stop the virus, he simply prevented it from damaging his brain during the initial onset. We see the purple skin and glowing veins fade and assume he's cured, but if you look at the frame around 20:48, right as he releases himself from his contraction, he has a glowing heart. He's a kabane now, but an intelligent one that hasn't lost his sense of self. oh, you're right! i totally didn't get that lol, and they actually say in the preview of the next episode that "his head is fine but his body is now that of a kabane" or smth like that. |
allewn said: okay i see people complaining about how in the beginning of the episode we learn that you need to blow up your heart if you don't want to turn into a kabane but then ikoma suppresses the virus by not letting it get to his brain, and that people haven't figured out any proper ways to deal with the kabane in 20 years. so this is how it made sense to me. Again. Most of that is wrong assumptions. - They shoot the heart because that's how you kill the kabane. ITs a precaution in case you already turned too much for normal methods to work. The Brain is what controls your body. As long as it does not reach the brain you would not become a monster. So the virus was not "eradicated". It simply went into gestation period. - They have ways of defeating them, but it is not efficient. They can fight them off, they can blow them up. But they are fucked if those thing get up-close. And its freaking medieval japan so obviously they think those are some supernatural curse. |
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| Holy crap this could turn out to be incredible if played out right, agh I cant help but feel anxious, hope the story doesnt fail, but a crazy first episode |
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