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Dec 24, 2008 5:55 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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A Gundam with a nuke is stolen by an ever-increasingly violent uprising of Zeon armies and the federation doesnt take any of it seriously and give the Albion any help?

Bullshit.

Bad writing.

Also, the street thugs tagging in and out of kicking Kou in the ribs was hilarious.

As was the 'one night stand' love song as Kou and that Zeon dude fixed the ship, oh God this episode was all sorts of wrong.
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Dec 29, 2009 8:58 PM
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I liked the episode, the atmosphere and and liked the Zeon dude.

I agree though, that the federation not giving a damn was a little off..

Let's see where this goes, I'm enjoying this OVA so far.
Mar 4, 2010 9:30 AM
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Beatnik said:
As was the 'one night stand' love song as Kou and that Zeon dude fixed the ship
I admit that was kind of weird, lol.
Apr 23, 2010 2:33 AM
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I not finding it strange that the federation didn't care. The federation is run by a bunch of hypocrite pigs, they doesn't want to take responsibility and they don't care if they blew the nuke as long as it is not on earth. No wonder that there is always somebody who wants to break their rule...
May 16, 2010 9:59 AM
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I not finding it strange that the federation didn't care. The federation is run by a bunch of hypocrite pigs, they doesn't want to take responsibility and they don't care if they blew the nuke as long as it is not on earth. No wonder that there is always somebody who wants to break their rule...



The Zeon could drop the nuke at Jaburo anytime they want. And, they have Anavel Gato with them. Those things alone should at least bother the Federation top brass.
Aug 1, 2010 8:51 PM
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The reason they don't care, to me, seems like it might be some sort of introduction to the formation of the Titans from Zeta.

Time will tell if my little theory is right.
Oct 8, 2010 7:43 PM
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something is wrong with this episode

there's no logic in it x)

Feb 20, 2011 10:05 AM
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0083 I believe is supposed to express the "corruption" of the Feddies this time. There's probably some coercion or they don't want to provoke anything.

And Full Vernien is cool ;D
Aug 1, 2011 1:41 PM
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Nina has her own harem of bitch engineers. Me likey.

Why yes, random street thugs. Why don't you beat up a soldier of the faction that pretty much has complete military control since they just won the war? And leave him alive too, because there's no chance the local authorities, or even his army friends, can identd your asses and bring you to justice (or "justice"). Well, but since it's Kou and his currently going through drama(tm), it's all so convenient for you all.

I understand Kou helping Kelley is somehow part of his own character development. But when you stop and think, he's still helping the enemy. Now not only they have a Gundam and a nuke, but also a working mobile armor (which, if I recall correctly, is considered to be a big deal of a weapon in previous Gundams). Dumb idealism is dumb.

Another average episode, but with extra idiocy this time.
Jul 20, 2012 6:34 AM

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Reading the comments in this and previous threads isn't making the viewing experience any pleasurable at all.
Jan 10, 2013 9:27 AM

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atomusku said:

I understand Kou helping Kelley is somehow part of his own character development. But when you stop and think, he's still helping the enemy. Now not only they have a Gundam and a nuke, but also a working mobile armor (which, if I recall correctly, is considered to be a big deal of a weapon in previous Gundams). Dumb idealism is dumb.

Another average episode, but with extra idiocy this time.

Yeah, TOTALLY agreed!

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The reason they don't care, to me, seems like it might be some sort of introduction to the formation of the Titans from Zeta.

I was also thinking about that. I think this series will focus at the reasons for the creation of the Titans.

Also, it was nice to see how Anaheim Eletronics works for both sides, as said in Char's Counterattack. Looks like this will be more well explained in this series.
Jan 13, 2013 9:21 AM

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vitor_5656 said:
atomusku said:

I understand Kou helping Kelley is somehow part of his own character development. But when you stop and think, he's still helping the enemy. Now not only they have a Gundam and a nuke, but also a working mobile armor (which, if I recall correctly, is considered to be a big deal of a weapon in previous Gundams). Dumb idealism is dumb.

Another average episode, but with extra idiocy this time.

Yeah, TOTALLY agreed!

Sabinlerose said:
The reason they don't care, to me, seems like it might be some sort of introduction to the formation of the Titans from Zeta.

I was also thinking about that. I think this series will focus at the reasons for the creation of the Titans.

Also, it was nice to see how Anaheim Eletronics works for both sides, as said in Char's Counterattack. Looks like this will be more well explained in this series.

God, I hope so, 'cause at this point it just seems...pointless.
Mar 20, 2013 5:52 PM

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"Im just going to fix up this mobile armor so I can shoot it down later"

That was pretty damn dumb. Helping to send Kelly out to die.
Jul 18, 2013 11:15 PM

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1. Kou gets insulted in front of his friends and decides to say nothing and run away like a wuss
2. Kou gets beat up by random street thugs and doesn't even try to fight back
3. Kou attempts to fight a one armed man and fails miserably
4. Kou, after getting his ass wooped, decides to help the man repair a Zeon Mobile armor which would be used against him

Oh the shame Kou, THE SHAME
Jan 19, 2014 12:09 AM

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I think the reason why E.F.F doesn't take it serious because it's just a small fleet of soldiers who are just former shadows of themselves, but I also feel that this later gives Jamitov the opportunity to establish the Titans.

This isn't the first time we seen the E.F.F show their carelessness since in Chars Counterattack they sold Char Axis and knew of his plan to drop it on Earth.
Only reason why they allowed it was because they felt it would've reduced the over grown population of Earth.
Jan 22, 2014 1:00 PM
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As was the 'one night stand' love song as Kou and that Zeon dude fixed the ship, oh God this episode was all sorts of wrong.

That part was hilarious. It takes the cake for most unfitting music for a scene.
Congrats Kou on finding yourself a boyfriend...?
Feb 13, 2014 3:47 AM

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Beatnik said:
As was the 'one night stand' love song as Kou and that Zeon dude fixed the ship, oh God this episode was all sorts of wrong.

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something is wrong with this episode
Mar 21, 2014 10:15 AM

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So does Anaheim Electronics only hire women with modeling backgrounds to work for them? Not that I'm against it. Damn maybe I need to train myself into a mecha pilot.

Yeah that repairing scene was silly, go home Gundam you're drunk
Apr 14, 2014 10:16 PM

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The theory that the Federation not helping leads to the Titans is more interesting than this whole episode. I figured they didn't want to get involved due to 1) save face that they broke the treaty and 2) so they don't have actually get help from some Newtype they have locked up. That they may not take the Zeon seriously after they won is icing on the cake.

This episode is just... bad. The ending as an insert song is so completely unfitting, it made me think they were having an affair by... building a mobile armor.

Kou is a terrible character whose ideals and logic make no sense. xAvengerx expressed it the best.
May 21, 2014 8:04 PM

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Kou and Kelly did have a one-night stand. Geez
Feb 25, 2015 9:46 AM

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"I'll help your fix your mobile armor just to shoot and kill you l8ter lol rofl."

I laughed when Kou tripped on that wire. What a loser. xD
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May 26, 2015 7:40 PM

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Another amazing episode!!

And yes a fucking Gundam that actually has a nuclear that can potentially wipe out planets is not a problem.

Fucking lol, guess they were busy sorting out things on their own. Bright should have heard of this and would have contacted Amuro to help stop this tbh.

Lol Captain Burning getting a lot of girls out of nowhere xD

Despite Kou acting like a child, at least he didn't spend 4-5+ episodes weeping on how he's the only one that can pilot a Gundam.

Guess that Bright Punch did helped him sort things out.

Even though he knew he was helping the enemy, he knows he can't be anything other than a pilot.

He should have at least mentioned it to the crew members so their aware of it on the next episode.

I thought Kelly was just a normal one time character, but it seems he's gonna be an important one and probably would be killed by Kou :(

Nina should just admit it and she's fallen in love with Kou and be done with it. At least their okay for now.

Anyways, gonna be an amazing next episode for sure!
Jul 1, 2015 2:31 PM

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I had a feeling the feds wouldnt take them serious. They only stole one nuke.
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"I'll help your fix your mobile armor just to shoot and kill you l8ter lol rofl."
lmao so true. xD Itll probably happen next ep.
Oct 23, 2015 2:49 AM

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I'm not enjoying this show. There's too much drama. The characters are meh...

I hope it picks up in the second half.
Feb 23, 2016 4:04 PM

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LOL the federation not caring much about a Zeon uprising? That's some incredibly incompetent leadership there, but then again we've seen horrible federation leadership choices in multiple UC gundam shows by this point.

I find Uraki's relationship with the former Zeon pilot to have a lot of holes. Why did the dude help Uraki in the first place, its apparent that the one arm dude is still working with Zeon and even plans to pilot this red mobile suit in the oncoming battle. They're basically enemy soldiers and a friendship develops between them? Not totally implausible but I was pretty iffy on that.

The worst thing in this episode is that Uraki inexplicably goes back to help the Zeon dude fix that mobile suit. That's directly helping the enemy and could mean the difference in a bunch of Urakis friends dying because of it.. just bizzare in my opinion. And then Uraki doesn't even tell Nina that there are Zeon agents on Luna? Alright then.
Mar 6, 2016 4:21 PM

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LOL that ED song playing as they fixed the mobile armor.

The two in the junkyard look familiar... were they in the first gundam? ... it was pretty boring so I don't recall much of it.
Apr 3, 2016 10:27 AM

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It was hard not to laugh during the "manly" scene where they inserted this bad ending "One Night Stand". XD

A few good points like the answer to one of my questions (Zeon remnants have support), the likable Zeon soldier who can't turn the page on the war and who motivates the character (a bit like Ral with Amuro), Uraki hating himself so much that he seeks his punishment himself. I needed that since noone from the Federation would lay a finger on him, I miss Bright... Actually, I miss some others from the White Base too (everyone dislikes the old characters, but I felt attached to them). Kô new resolution was good.

A LOT of silly points:
The way the professor from Anaheim must have recruited his engineers. 1 Nina, 2 Nina, 3 Nina... come on -_-
I understand Kô's return to Kelly, but instead of helping him, he should try harder to confront him with the reality.
Then he returns to test the Gundam Full Thing and warns NO ONE ?! He knows there is a big machibe waiting to be released nearby (it could also save the life of the man who helped him deal with his situation), he knows that Zeon troops must have moonlanding somewhere... but that's not enough to call anyone from the Albion?
The insert song.

4/5


edit @SakurasouBusters They might have consider this a staple of main Gundam series while not realizing that they made Uraki a professional soldier unlike most of the usual heroes.
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Jul 26, 2016 12:12 PM

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A rest episode more or less, quite interesting development though especially that ending! But well let's see what happens next.
Oct 31, 2016 8:18 AM

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Episode where comes the classic moment of reflection on the part of the protagonist. Narration managed well to the screenplay, does not get bored. Drawings and animations, very good. Evolution of Gundam, not carelessly.
Hype! :D
Mar 12, 2017 3:06 PM

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No proper punishment for Uraki's actions, forced conflict (street thugs attacking a fucking military wtf), your usual Gundam stupidity ("let me help you fix this MA so you can kick my ass with it later!"), inappropriate insert song and focus on Nina's love life which I couldn't care less about. There certainly wasn't a lot to love this episode, despite its ambition to present some kind of self-reflection on the protagonist's part.

It was just too bogged down by the overall silliness to have any kind of impact.
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Jun 22, 2017 5:06 PM

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Dont get me wrong, this wasnt a terrible episode
Byt what really irritates me is did this moron seriously go unpunished after going A.W.O.L
Jul 23, 2017 7:00 PM
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Dont get me wrong, this wasnt a terrible episode
Byt what really irritates me is did this moron seriously go unpunished after going A.W.O.L


Nah dude this was terrible all the way around. I'm getting sick of watching gundam shows inexplicably helping their enemies with shitty logic. It was barely tolerable in War in the Pocket because the kid was just, a kid, living on what was supposed to be a neutral colony. But the MS 08th team and now this is just too much. It's hard to take a serious show like this as such with futuristic but plausible and highly sophisticated technology incorporated into it but then is subjected to this crappy, nonsensical writing.

It would've made sense to go back and help Kelley if he was going to desert, but the moment he decided to return, he should've snitched. He was so upset about losing his comrade in episode 2 because he wasn't a good enough pilot,but you go and help the enemy build a mobile armor that's designed to kill scores of your own comrades with a single suit. HE ACTUALLY KNOWS THIS!!! And why did Kelley even help him, knowing he's an enemy? What's his motivation? That's literally never brought up. I can only suspend my disbelief for so long. This one few anime (series) that you take seriously and I can't with this show, starting from the gundam was stolen in the first place.
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well that was a nice ep but it sucks that they gotta fight each other if only they could have met in a different way and didnt have to worry about which side they was on ect.....

but one thing is for sure meeting him was the push that kou needed
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Mar 30, 2020 9:25 PM

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lmao that was the most unfitting insert song
May 4, 2020 12:41 PM

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I laughed at the scene with Kou and Kelly so much, jeez, that makes any possible shipping for Kou and Nina pale in comparison. Whatever they do from now on, it won't be as convincible as this sequence here, what can be more romantic than fixing Mobile Armour together, lol.

Also, Kou is just dumb. I think it's safe to say at this point that he doesn't leave an impression as a reliable and likable character. Nina is somewhat annoying too.
May 20, 2020 4:35 AM
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Kou is the shittiest gundam MC
Jun 22, 2020 1:27 PM

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Kou acts like a teenager sometimes (or always?), though his actions can be understandable. But why would Kelly rescue a Feddie soldier while working on a secret mission for Zeon? Because he's a good guy?

Cima just casually threatened dropping a colony on Von Braun lol.

The ED song started playing during the show and just cut off suddenly. Though hearing it over Kou and Kelly fixing the mobile armor was...something. Still laughing at it tbh. It was unfitting and all that, but I gotta admit that it kinda romanticized the process of building a war machine, while the series is supposed to have an anti-war message. Instead we got this sorta bromantic feel of two pilots finding a common hobby of building a weapon of mass destruction together to kill each other with it later... Isn't that great?

In fact, I liked Kelly's little family, it was cute and all. It's just the weirdest actions of Kou that made this arc look strange. I mostly agree with the criticisms in this thread.
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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A Gundam with a nuke is stolen by an ever-increasingly violent uprising of Zeon armies and the federation doesnt take any of it seriously and give the Albion any help?

Bullshit.

Bad writing.

Also, the street thugs tagging in and out of kicking Kou in the ribs was hilarious.

As was the 'one night stand' love song as Kou and that Zeon dude fixed the ship, oh God this episode was all sorts of wrong.


Yes and why would a ex-zeon help a fed solider?
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Yep, the Federation is a horrible organization. They deserve the worst. Also, I can't stand Monsha, he's just a plot device at this point. This anime went downhill after the second episode.
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Don't hate on Kou, he needs the magic
Oct 26, 2022 11:33 PM
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great episode with character development, also love the shots of the city
Oct 24, 2023 6:51 AM
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What is it with Zeon and dropping colonies? Also, what is it with these year-based OVAs and the main character unwittingly helping fascists to enact their evil plans, and then not notifying anyone about it, which would no doubt save many lives? Kou lost all sympathie from me by helping him. Worst Gundam protag to date. He should be in jail.

Not gonna lie, this episode made my score drop to 7 at best.
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my fave episode so far.

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