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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- It was cool to see Renton kick some ass, but he's gone a bit crazy. Nirvash is affecting him? |
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| I was expecting Renton to flip after being bullied so much but... man, that' disturbing,. |
| fucking awesome episode. it's not the gore but that the show kinda evolved there in that gory crazy scene...i'm not a fan of it but i like how it kinda just turned darker...i think from now on it will be a lot different. |
| candidate for my best episode seen this year. |
aero said: It was cool to see Renton kick some ass, but he's gone a bit crazy. Nirvash is affecting him? Holy smokes?! Renton definitely went crazy there. This episode was pretty intense. |
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| Now that was a great episode! But I have to admit, Holland is bitch. |
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| I hate how high strung Holland is. Pride really is a deadly sin. What I hate most is how Renton pretty much blames everything on himself when everyone is holding something back from him. It's become really annoying seeing him tossed around. |
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| Oh snap! It's crazy to see Rento go completely off the deep end. |
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| Alright, this ep was amazing. This is the intensity I was waiting for. Now let's hope the next episode isn't full of emo QQ. I like the shock, the awe, the drama of this episode. Always interesting when a character snaps, but the gore was a VERY interesting twist. |
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| Finally, Renton realizes he's been killing people, Eureka is probably the only one who can bring him back from this shock-state. |
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| MaiZorbescu, you were the one who was talking about Renton becoming Shinji... I take back what I said, it really is going in that direction now lol |
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| Epic. |
Kiku-chanAug 17, 2009 3:58 PM
| Every second of this episode after Renton gets in the Nirvash felt like Neon Genesis Evangelion 2, honestly. I loved the ep, really, but the battle scenes showed direct similarities to several things NGE, such as: A few basic ones, like Renton using the board as a spear much resembling the fake Longinus spear used by the mass produced EVAs to impale Asuka (the position of the LFO even mirrored Unit 02's, and the wait between the penetration and the blood/oil gushing out was also very NGE-istic). To more obvious things, like the part where the Nirvash's eyes turn red and it starts smacking and ripping off random parts of the LFO. You tell me that scene isn't an exact copy of what happened between Shinji and Touji, and you are lying. Renton and Shinji even vomited after seeing the mangled body(part) of the pilot! The only thing missing here is that the LFO pilot was not a close friend of Renton's... But, other than that, the episode was incredible. Favourite episode so far. |
niedude said: ETo more obvious things, like the part where the Nirvash's eyes turn red and it starts smacking and ripping off random parts of the LFO. You tell me that scene isn't an exact copy of what happened between Shinji and Touji, and you are lying. Renton and Shinji even vomited after seeing the mangled body(part) of the pilot! The only thing missing here is that the LFO pilot was not a close friend of Renton's... This is true, but believe me, this won't be as bad as NGE :D |
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| FYI, NGE is my favorite anime, so I'm good anyway. |
| Best ep ever? It was just a copy and pasted ep from NGE...an anime that I didnt really think was that amazing anyway. The whole concept of bleeding berserking robots and the emo little kids that pilot them set to a mindfuck backdrop just doesn't appeal to me. But apparently Im the only one, but I dont mind. Well whatever, I still like Eureka Seven, but I hope it changes its course a bit back to before Shinji, um I mean Renton got all emo. I like the faster pace of these new eps, but I hope they get a little less depressing. I mean, its a show about air surfing robots, it should be lighthearted and fun. As a side note, I hope that Renton gets back at Holland eventually, just to settle the score. I was REALLY hoping that after Holland kicked him and he fell off the ledge, that he was just pretending to be unconscious, and while Holland was looking the other way, he springs back up and hits Holland with a flying jump kick to the back of the head. It wasn't likely, but you're lying if that doesn't sound fucking awesome. |
Osaka117Sep 10, 2009 11:35 AM
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| omg, soo vilolent! |
| Yeah this episode was SO good and with every episode of this anime im feeling likei want to watch it more and more and more....... |
| Nice finally we get something good. I like how it finally shows the pilots dying instead of being blown up, it makes it seem less robotic and more human. Things are going finally start picking up from on. |
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| A lot of misunderstandings could have been avoided if people properly explain things to Renton. I have seen this in several anime shows, but why, why do people hold back information...it just makes things harder later on. |
| Ewwww! That bitch Renton puked in Nirvashi again >< |
RyuRobin said: Epic episode, I really got the evangelion vibe from it. I did also. xD But this episode was great, the fight was awesome. Also, Talho finally explain to people on how jealous she is of Eureka, because Holland can be a jerk sometimes but she's right he does take care of her. Plus, seeing Renton in that fight with the Nirvash freaked me out..lol he went insaine. o_o |
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| This was...interesting. I know people have mentioned the Bardiel (i.e. Touji) episode of NGE--this is actually somewhat like the exact opposite of that. You have the main boy character driving the violence, while you have the father-figure telling him to stop. Though one could say it's somewhat like a combination of that and the Zeruel episode (the one where EVA-01 goes completely bonkers). Well, at least seeing Holland get his come-uppance was worth it. He was pretty clearly going overboard. I must say it's an interesting dose of irony how the characters regard Renton as "just a kid"--Renton himself included. And then...off of his LFO's foot comes a severed forearm, complete with blood and wedding ring. I wonder if we'll get any elaboration on that character...though the implications are disturbing no matter how you think about it. And they just couldn't resist making him puke, could they? |
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| Epic episode seeing Renton kick Ass and kill people :D |
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| seems like they purposely wait until this eps to show pilots die inside LFOs, so it added shocking feeling to Renton's situation wonder why Holland never admit he did all these for Eureka... the priest saving part in jail is quite cool |
| Renton went mental in that last battle. Wouldn't be surprised if he runs away. I mean this anime has so much NGE influence that it's kinda to be expected that they'd follow that kind of path. (I don't mean it in a bad way). Gekko State is not the dream that Renton once though, huh? |
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Eliminate some of the ending episodes for a lot of my favorite anime, and this is one of the best episodes I've ever seen. Holland and Renton's relationship couldn't be any uglier than it was in this episode. And the episode itself couldn't be any more intense and brimming with emotion. Excellent! |
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| Godly episode. Saw that ending coming; pretty sad stuff. |
| Wow, that berserk mode, that ending. Impressive. I didn't pay much attention to it before, but didn't Mischa say something about LFO potentially altering the mind of its pilots with trapar waves pretty early into the series? I think Renton going nuts must be a result of that, and trapar is pretty mean stuff in general, like in the hallucinations, gel and depression illness sort of way. I guess it comes from some experiment going wrong in the past, maybe it's also the reason why the seasons are gone. Anyway, really looking forward to learning more. They did a good job at doing Renton's development here, like really good. Him throwing aside some of his childish pride when he realizes he and Holland have the same goal of wanting to help Eureka above all else was well done and Holland's abuse was actually good build up for it. While it went completely wrong in the end, it's his frustration that matters. Though it doesn't make Holland's behavior much less unreasonable or change the fact that frustration would not have built up so hard if he was told more about what's going on :p Everyone's very open and forward with their emotions in this anime though. Not like it's a bad thing, though. 5/5 |
VictimOfFateApr 6, 2012 9:36 AM
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| Would've been a perfect episode if it weren't for Holland acting like a complete dick and beating up Renton. I raged so hard that I almost dropped it. |
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| Nice shit. Renton rag ftw! |
| Up until this episode I wasn't completely sure that there were actually people in the army mechs, now I guess we know for sure that it is blood and not hydraulic fluid spurting out when Nirvash decapitates one. Seriously, was this a three minute episode? It just seemed to go so fast. I can see why this show has such a good rep. I may have to marathon most of the remaining episodes. |
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| Holland is getting a lot of hate, but I feel like Renton's actually the cause of it all. He speaks without thinking all the time, never considering whether or not things aren't as they appear...just way too dense about other people's feelings. Even if he's just a kid, he's acting immature. Everything could be resolved if he just understood that his connection with the Nirvash is making Eureka sad and, in turn, irritating Holland. Of course, Holland's constantly state of denial is irritating as well, but nowhere near Renton's denseness imo. Only halfway through the series, so there's a lot of time for Renton to redeem himself, but right now he's really ruining the show for me. |
| 'I met many people. We were separated. And then reunited. This tune contains all those feelings.' - Nanaka Yatsushiro, Myself;Yourself, Episode 13  |
| Hmm, getting a bit better. At least the character development is going to (hopefully) accelerate. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| kid went psycho...! holland earned back a little respect but he still sucks. |
| Great episode! At the end, Holland wasn't looking at Renton as if he wanted to beatdown on him... I was expecting him to be stubborn and say he told him not to pilot the NIrvash. But wow, Renton went total fucking nuts! |
| "We're nothing more than fools and whores with sad highs" |
| That wasn't Evangelion inspired at all. /sarcasm |
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| More NGE references, but damn the last couple minutes were brutal especially when he crushed the pilot and Narvash's foot ripped off his arm. Poor guy was married. T^T |
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goblinlady said: I was expecting Renton to flip after being bullied so much but... man, that' disturbing,. HELL yea I would have beat the shit out of Holloand for every time he beats that kid smh. Renton is a kid all it takes is some explaining of the situation you don't have to tell him everything but at least put his mind at ease by letting him know what's going on. |
| Damn Renton, you scary! |
| Everyone loves this episode |
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| Damn Renton went crazy I think the nirvash is affecting him. |
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Roloko said: More NGE references, but damn the last couple minutes were brutal especially when he crushed the pilot and Narvash's foot ripped off his arm. Poor guy was married. T^T I know theres a ridiculous amount of NGE references. almost a blatant rip-off, but in a slightly different genre. still it has many of the same elements, tries to do the psychological montages in some episodes, and the mech's were "found" and not created, plus theyre some sort of living creature with their own free will of some sort. Anyways, Holland, I DARE you to beat up on Renton again. the beginning of this episode is ridiculous. Im almost tempted to drop this shit because of that. If I wanted to watch child abuse, I can go watch a documentary or reread The Lost Boy. shits happened wayyyy too many times for it to be acceptable or any bit enjoyable to watch or try to understand. like, holland acknowledges he's just a chilld, and then drives his head into a fucking metal pole? and kicks him when he's down? just because renton is WORRIED about eureka's health. Like the other Gekkostate member Hap said, "he's the leader of Gekko. its just downright embarassing to be beating up on a defenseless kid." shit's pathetic. he's highest on the poll of pathetic characters. I like Hap a lot more now though. Im glad it was atleast mentioned. And poor Talho. She deserves some dick too. she's a lot hotter than eureka, thats for sure. dunno how anyone regards him as a leader with that kinda childish attitude. he acts more like a kid then renton. and he's keeping secrets about eureka. he's irrational, unstable, and lets his emotions get to his head and impact his decision making. i also wouldnt consider it "protecting" eureka when he forced her to help slaughter a whole city, including her killing defenseless parents right in front of their children. I also dunno how the kids wanted her to be their "mother" after she killed their parents so brutally. end rant. |
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