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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Never would have guessed that he was Ichise's father. Can't wait to see how this ends. |
| That air shaft looked deep. I wondered how long Kazuho traveled in it on the first episode since he was seen cooking his meals. |
| You see there's no need to wonder where your god is, Coz he's right here! ...and he's fresh out of mercy. |
| These last 2 episodes are among the best of the series so far. So much surprise and so much to take in. Texhnolyze is certainly something else. |
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| It looks like Doc killed herself in the bath and is now one of the ghosts. How did that old man become solid? tofei said: That air shaft looked deep. I wondered how long Kazuho traveled in it on the first episode since he was seen cooking his meals. He said it took him four days. Going straight down will save Ichise some time! |
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| Many things are becoming clear now. 2 episodes to go. |
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Veethorn said: These last 2 episodes are among the best of the series so far. So much surprise and so much to take in. Texhnolyze is certainly something else. Agreed. I came in to post that these two are probably the best of the series, with the only possible exception (for me) would be the couple of episodes with Yoshii stirring shit up. But I really loved these two. Also, apparently when this show was originally broadcasted these two episodes weren't aired. That must've sucked for anyone watching then. |
TerrestriousMay 7, 2013 10:06 PM
| Great episode. Wonder how it will end. I want Ran to live at least. |
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| great fight scene with Toyama. it seems Sakimura became ghost too... |
sorashikaJun 14, 2013 6:19 AM
| 私の力はあなたの理解を超えています |
| The fight was well-done. Also Toyama such a nihilist. It seems Ichise finally decided what to do. Obviously he chose to go down. The upper-world human race is doomed even without the texchnolyzed army.. |
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| The Doc died. She was a sad woman, a product of the bleak world that surrounded her no doubt. Am I understanding correctly that people could no longer have any children in Lux? |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Yeah almost positive that the Doc is dead, her voice was in the radio, which seemed like the voices of the dead . . . Plus yeah, the overflowing bath water wasn't a good sign. Although why was she so depressed? She had her greatest creation still there . . . She could still pick up her work rather easily . . . |
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Pirating_Ninja said: Although why was she so depressed? She had her greatest creation still there . . . She could still pick up her work rather easily . . . Ichise may be her greatest creation, but it doesn't mean anything if no one acknowledges it. That, along with the fact that her creation pretty much abandoned her, led to her demise since she had nothing left to live for. |
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| Slow but steady development, with two episodes remaining, I really wonder what they'll finish this show with. |
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| Wow... that town looks like they're under the entertainment ban... send in AKB0048 to cheer them up! Either they didn't care that they were in danger, or didn't know how to react to that fact because it's something they've never faced. I just wish this anime wasn't so slow... |
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I guess it makes sense why Ichise and the other guy fought. They had nothing better to do and he wanted to die from his friend in battle. That's really depressing right there. |
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Tyestor said: Never would have guessed that he was Ichise's father. Can't wait to see how this ends. I think you're misinterpreting something here. Sakimura ain't his father; it was the 'ghost' of his father Ichise saw due to being Texhnolyze. Remember that Texhnolyze beings can see their pasts and hear voices vividly at certain times? Yup. The irony is strong in this episode. The 'hell': Lux, was created to banish non-theonormal people, people regarded as 'imperfect' and 'sinners', became the surface world with its 'sinners' cleansed. The heaven in turn becomes the hell, just like what I said of the previous episode: the utopia becoming a dystopia. I guess we all can finally comprehend the actual motives of Yoshii in the first arc. The 'raw human emotions' Yoshii wanted to see, which are long gone in the surface world. The greatest scene in this episode would undoubtedly be Eriko's hinted suicide at the start. Her goal in life, to create a Texhnolyze masterpiece, only for it to be wrongly utilised by Kano, and to be ignored as unnecessary by the surface people. Plus, her very own masterpiece, with her own living cells in it, rejects her and never ever has a thought for her. What else can she do? 5/5 |
| "If you reject me, I'll blast a hole in you!" Kanzaki H. Aria Just kidding.  |
grayrebornnhy said: The heaven in turn becomes the hell, just like what I said of the previous episode: the utopia becoming a dystopia. This sums it up about the surface. |
| I can't help but to feel utterly sad for Doc. Abandoned, used and betrayed. She was a great character. Also Ichise admitting that Toyama is his best friend was unexpected from him. Wonder if Toyama killed his father in the end like he said he would. |
ownosourus said: Many things are becoming clear now. 2 episodes to go. |
| During the last episode I was wondering why there was something familiar in the color and aspect of the surface world.. something that reminded me of some paintings. And then I saw this : Very nice reference to Hooper's famous painting "Morning sun" : Hooper's paintings usualy reflect the idea of a "dead world" , where humans look like ghosts in empty space and theaters. It fit perfectly for this anime. I suspect there is other painting reference in those two episodes but I couldn't see them. |
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Dullboy said: During the last episode I was wondering why there was something familiar in the color and aspect of the surface world.. something that reminded me of some paintings. And then I saw this : Very nice reference to Hooper's famous painting "Morning sun" : Hooper's paintings usualy reflect the idea of a "dead world" , where humans look like ghosts in empty space and theaters. It fit perfectly for this anime. I suspect there is other painting reference in those two episodes but I couldn't see them. Check this out |
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| RIP Doc, she was hoping Texhnolyzation could save the people aboveground but it ended in vain. What a painful episode |
grayrebornnhy said: The greatest scene in this episode would undoubtedly be Eriko's hinted suicide at the start. Her goal in life, to create a Texhnolyze masterpiece, only for it to be wrongly utilised by Kano, and to be ignored as unnecessary by the surface people. Plus, her very own masterpiece, with her own living cells in it, rejects her and never ever has a thought for her. What else can she do? 5/5 Damn ... wording it like that (even after just watching this episode) is depressing as hell ... :/ I do feel for the Doc though, she tried so hard ... |
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| Ah the doc committed suicide... that was sad. Ichise left her, and she had all her hopes on him. |
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| The surface world is even more bleak and depressing the the City. Definitely one of the best atmospheres I've experienced. Even if it were just for two episodes, I could so much fron it. |
| I was afraid for Doc. I had a feeling she would end up committing suicide, or in the very least staying behind in such a ghostly world. She shares a lot of similarities to Cher from Wolf's Rain. |
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| Man, It hit me hard in the kokoro when Doc killed herself and listening to her throught the radio.. :/ |
STOP SLEEPING ON ODD TAXI |
| Wtf, didn't expect Doc to kill herself. She had grown on me :( |
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Tien said: Ichise may be her greatest creation, but it doesn't mean anything if no one acknowledges it. That, along with the fact that her creation pretty much abandoned her, led to her demise since she had nothing left to live for. I think she's probably also despairing because she's seen what the end of Texhnolyzation leads to - "evolved" humans are dead humans. Ichise was her perfect creation, but he was still human, and her end goal seemed to be the next evolution. But it's already been done and it was a diaster. gedata said: Dullboy said: During the last episode I was wondering why there was something familiar in the color and aspect of the surface world.. something that reminded me of some paintings. And then I saw this : Very nice reference to Hooper's famous painting "Morning sun" : Hooper's paintings usualy reflect the idea of a "dead world" , where humans look like ghosts in empty space and theaters. It fit perfectly for this anime. I suspect there is other painting reference in those two episodes but I couldn't see them. Check this out Thank you both for the info!! Very interesting insights! |
| 落下のように、いつも落ちる。いつか救われることができるのかな？ または落ち続けるでしょうか？永遠に |
| Oh man... my heart broke so hard for Ichise, poor guy. Epic fight, great explanation from Doc and a heartbreaking scene between Ichise and that ghost. 5/5 episode. |
| That was seriously intense, everything started to make meaning. |
| I need to see more Ran, Hope she is okay ._. |
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| The scene with Toyama was great, RIP, also RIP to Doc who seems to have drowned herself to death in the bathroom (as we can see with the water under the door)... The moment between Ichise and his ghost father for the final reconciliation was also great, we're getting more and more info for the world-building. |
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| "I feel very fortunate that we can sincerely try to kill each other like this" I never thought that i would find such words so moving. The society on the surface has withered into apathy to the point that the deadly battle between Ichise and Toyama felt refreshing in comparison, they were killing each other by at least they were alive people while doing it. It's unclear what kind of phenomenon the "ghosts" really are, they seem to be able to physically interact with the world in some extent but at the same time they can be ethereal too. |
| The last 2 episodes have been really interesting with its themes! |
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| Feel bad for Doc, seeing the technology she worked so hard on used for not the best purposes took her to a sad path, and there's the result. Still have to sort some pieces of the puzzle, I'm slow and kind of an idiot on series like this but I think I'm getting at least a half of the big picture |
| No tomo malas decisiones, solo me gusta apoyar causas perdidas. Disfruté Mayoiga, Ou-sama Game, Evil or Live, Mirai Nikki, Big Order, Arifureta, Ex-Arm, Tesla Note, Shuumatsu no Harem y Platinum End nope les falle con esa, lo siento pero todos tenemos nuestros límites. Así de jodido es mi gusto en anime, ¡Y estoy pinche orgulloso de ello!  |
| the doctor might have been the only likeable character in the series oh well |
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| one of the best episodes in the show. so haunting and also crazy just how devoid of life the world is. hits harder when you can translate that to a life of someone who works a boring office job. truly incredible |
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| The parallels to Edward Hoppers works are so damn great. It really encapsulates the surface and Doc's character, as it is a dead place, a dead world. It matches with Hopper's works, since they're are all about human existentialism, loneliness and isolation. And this is exactly the feeling I get from the surface. A false sense of happiness and hope, which is truthfully lonely and full of despair, hidden behind the color palletes of a warm sundown. |
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| I didn't expect the Doc to kill herself, but I guess that she hasn't the strength to look for a new purpose. It's really sad, but the author isn't pulling any punches. I'm not sure why Ichise could see his father as a Ghost though, or how ghosts manage to be material at times. |
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| apparently episodes 19 and 20 didn't air at the time and presumably were done after. they do feel to me like something that stand alone. not that it doesn't fit with the rest, quite on the contrary, but the upper world is it's own thing. this is one of the most fascinatings parts of the show to me and simultaneously the hardest one to pin down. here's the thing: the above world is the place of the incomprehensible. humanity has evolved in a way that it's impossible for we, and the people who came from Lukuss, to grasp how they live, how they think or even what they are. there's no key to this mystery. Texhnolyze plays a fine game with these two episodes of giving us enough to make this world credible, but not so much as to unveil it's secrets - and that's what makes it, no matter how many times you watch it, so incredible to go through. it's a unnerving setting where humanity has reached the impossible, a perfect state of balance, a 'zero' of desire and conflict, and decided to sit around and wait for death. what we have in this city are ambiguous ghost figures that works as projections and run around, aimlessly going through their rotine. the city also seems to have a double meaning as a place of the dead, as people who are alive waiting for death are there, but also ghosts of the dead also dwells in this heaven (in Texhnolyze nothing really seems to be only work in a literal sense, both Lukuss and the upper world) the appearance of Saginuma (the old man with the creepy ghost, not Sakimura) reminds me of two things: I) Yoshii once said something about people from Lukuss not being able to 'heal', while Saginuma affirms that the Theonormal (above ground people) can't suffer bodily harm. I wonder to what extent this is true: is it that they live longer? or that they just recover from wounds? it can't be that they're immortal, Yoshii was killed by a bullet shot, after all; II) that technology on Saginuma's legs brings us back to Yoshii's own body, remember that he said that his technological apparatus isn't Texhnolyze, with Saginuma also saying that they have no reason for Texhnolyze themselves, so his are also something else. perhaps it has to do with these ghosts they're able to project around... we wouldn't know, anyway there's an insistence with the imagery of flowers on both episodes. it's very recurrent and seems to be connected with the ideas of life and evolution in this innert world. it always brings to my mind the scene in which Ichises touches a flower and kills it. |
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