| I've seen people say any ounce of fanservice can completely ruin an otherwise good anime for them. We know how much ecchi is looked down on in the community, but I really don't get why. If you're against any and all fanservice, why do you have that stance? Do you think an anime is worse if it has fanservice? Do you consider something that has fanservice bellow their non-fanservice counterparts? |
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| there are different kinds of fanservice besides sexual fanservice so nah fanservice is a good thing long sakuga action scenes and even those long camera focus of an entire robot is considered fanservice too and many more that pleases the fans |
| I'd say fanservice ruins a characters "purity", or rather if you have great respect towards a character, you don't want to see them sexualized. |
| I'm not really an ecchi/sexual fanservice fan, but I don't think it always ruins shows. I started Mushibugyou without realising it had an ecchi tag and I still loved it, panty shots and all. The problem is not all shows benefit from (sexual) fanservice so when they do have it it can feel weird and artificial. Its the same reason as to why comedy isn't needed in all shows, its not always gonna work and can often feel unnecessary and out of place. But that doesn't mean it won't work well in another show. Simply put, some shows work well with fanservice and other shows don't, at least this is how I feel about it. Fanservice is a pretty broad term though. Its not exactly limited to sexual themes - yuri or yaoi baiting would also be seen as fanservice. |
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| Sexual fanservice is just straight disgusting,if it isn't present in a show where the themes are love,sex,romance ect. Why should you sexualise a character (which 70% of the times is a girl) in a show where the main theme is action? I find show like this disgusting and offensive,the author uses sexualisation to get more people to watch their show (even though they just fap on it) and sometimes to satisfies his own perverse fantasies. Also I also jugde making all the character looking good like some sort of fanservice,so the fans will like them easily Unlikly most of the world goes around sex,beauty and begin sexy |
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| you don't get why? it's because people like different things i'm obviously not against all kinds of fanservice, but ecchi can be fcking annoying unless it's done in a clever way, which rarely happens. |
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Grimvice said: Fanservice is also pointless because why have that wedged into an otherwise decent show when porn exists? In anime, unless you're watching hentai, fanservice never gets to full-on sex or showing genitalia, so it's almost like it exists for the sake of blue-balls. I respect your opinion. On the other hand, equating sexual fanservice to porn is a bit flawed in my eyes. Sexual fanservice in otherwise decent shows is different to porn because you have more to go on about regarding the character's personality and likeability than porn. Like, it's different seeing your girlfriend in a more revealing position for the first time than it is seeing a random girl you never saw before. It will turn you on the same way but the emotional gratification is different regardless. |
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| ....... ...... im just going to remind myself that the anime industry doesn't give a damn about people who complain about it...... |
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| Cause they're nuts who can't handle animated tiddies! |
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| funny you make this thread as i was just blocked an hour earlier by a user for liking fanservice I enjoy fanservice, probably more than the next guy. I watched Hotarubi no Mori e earlier, not expecting fanservice as it's a G-rated anime. They still managed to show Hotaru's underwear when she's still very young. It was a good scene, not sexually (facepalm) but it shows the bond between the two that develops throughout this 45 min "movie." I like fanservice, it exists for a reason. Fans like it! I don't think there is too much fanservice, just bad timing. If I'm watching Gakuen Babysitters I don't want sexual fanservice they have cute toddler fan service. If you want to be a serious romance but all you show me are boobs, is there really a romance? or do you have an MAL user with a boner in front of his waifu?!!? |
PantsuSenseiUwUJun 24, 2019 7:40 AM
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| I guess it's because different people have different tastes? But yeah, it does seem this kind of rejection is skewed towards sexualization. Some people think it's a cheap trick to keep the audience engaged with a mediocre show, but I don't see as many people ostracizing other attempts (ship teasing, for example) of maintaining audience engagement if it's not specifically sexual fanservice (ecchi, beach episodes, panty shots). On the other hand, if the show is good and happens to have ecchi fanservice, I think it's part of the package of the show, so it wouldn't ruin it for me. |
KosmonautJun 24, 2019 7:41 AM
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| it's not hard to imagine why try to think of a great action scene, tensed, blood pumping action packed, and then there's juggling titties going across your screen, it's hard to take it seriously and you just can't help but facepalm / laugh at shit like that. Think of this scene in Highschool of the Dead, this scene is still awesome, but in a totally different way that I would've imagined. It's more funny awesome than say, total badass. It ruins the mood of the series as well. |
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| Nothing wrong with fanservice in moderation, there's always a time and a place. If you watch a shounen, you're getting fanservice down the line. Likewise if picking up ecchi. Genres and tags exist for a reason. |
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| It can only make an already bad anime worse imo. Some anime pull it off some don't, usually the fantasy genre has laughable fanservice |
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When it happens too many times, it makes me think of how stupid it is. I mean in some action focused anime it's way out of place. In Fairy Tail, it was OK at the beginning but over time, it gets cringe and ruins everything. I hardly care about the story anymore, it becomes a story where the girls were only there to get naked, raped and tortured. Makes me want to watch a hentai instead. |
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| When fanservice goes too far, like Fairy Tail did. It becomes cringe. TF2Mario said: I'd say fanservice ruins a characters "purity", or rather if you have great respect towards a character, you don't want to see them sexualized. It was just a regular shounen anime, but then it becomes an anime where the girls were only there just to get stripped off, raped or tortured. Makes me feel like i'm watching a hentai. It's such a shame because some of them are my favourite characters. |
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| Part of it is probably that young people work so hard trying to convince their dumb friends that anime is super serious art, and they think that sexy anime girls ruins that for some reason. Though I think the biggest reason is that people grow up believing that sex and nudity is scary/immoral. Desire is one of many ways we can connect to fiction and there is nothing wrong with it, if anything it makes the characters we desire even more 'real.' People who think fanservice 'ruins' a scene probably didn't understand the tone of that scene to begin with. |
syncrogazerJun 24, 2019 10:32 AM
| Because there are people who watch anime for more than just lol tits, lol lolis, lol traps or lol muscular guys doing weird poses shirtless. The same way that some people watch anime only to seeing tits some people wants to see more serious stuff animated. |
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| I think may people get annoyed by fanservice scenes when there are too much of them and/or those scenes ruin the general mood of a show or its particular episode. As for me I'm okay with fanservice if it is not that much forced, is we executed and doesn't dominate the whole anime or manga if its main theme differs from a theme that could have been linked with fanservice content. |
| I see nothing wrong with ecchi fanservice when it's written in the tags, you get into that anime knowing it's a bit ecchi, so why make a scene? who watches DxD for the plot except of the LN readers anyway? Ecchi gets hate because people are too shallow and can't enjoy anime. |
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Grimvice said: They don't seem to say things about the other things that might take up time — it's very often specific to fan-service.It's because it's fanservice being shown instead what people came to the show for. Having fanservice in an action show means less action. Having fanservice in a comedy show means less jokes. Shows with "decent" fanservice would have it going on at the same time as the jokes and action. Which probably implies it's sexual morality. |
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| Well, it depends on what the approach, intent and context is. I mean, what'd be left if Shokugeki or monogatari exclude its fs, otoh u couldn't possibly accept a Ghibli movie to have some kinky shit tho |
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| I love fanservice, it's eye candy. And what I have seen it only exist one show out there that is using fanservice in way that it destorys the whole show, and that anime is called Fail Tail. If we coud remove the fanservice and remove friendships power, I woud love that anime. Ofc you can have fanservice, but you don't need it for 18 minutes in each eps. It's way to much in a bad way. Even if the manga is using alot of fanservice I think the studio that is taking care of the adaption. Shoud have thought a bit about how can we improve this show. Eye candy is always nice and how in hell coud you hate see Rias naked or Saeko in only a apron :o |
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Hey_Taka-tin_Hey said: EcchiGodMamster said: ....... ...... im just going to remind myself that the anime industry doesn't give a damn about people who complain about it...... The anime industry doesn't exist in a bubble and is just as susceptible to outside influences as any other industry. Especially in a global market. And considering that foreign viewership and consumption is at an all-time high, with a tendency to keep growing exponentially (almost 172 percent since 2013), while the domestic market has stagnated... But you know what's great about that? Hope for better working conditions. Is this a refutation to what I said? I didn't say they didnt know about outsiders I said they dont care about them Just look at the situation w the black guy from one punch man... hes not going to change cause ppl on Twitter are mad Anime has always had fanservice and sexualized underage girls regardless of who complains... it's not going anywhere If anything the whining only helps since it gives the shows publicity to ppl like me who will support them to no end Japan has to want change before anime can change for whatever bullshit phantom global market which no one outside whiny forums and Twitter actually wants Most ppl want Japan to stay Japan Anime is so popular now BECAUSE it does things that piss crybaby westerners off |
EcchiGodMamsterJun 24, 2019 9:39 AM
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Sphinxter said: Grimvice said: They don't seem to say things about the other things that might take up time — it's very often specific to fan-service.It's because it's fanservice being shown instead what people came to the show for. Having fanservice in an action show means less action. Having fanservice in a comedy show means less jokes. Shows with "decent" fanservice would have it going on at the same time as the jokes and action. Which probably implies it's sexual morality. I think what @Sphinxter said is true too. People don't seem to complain as much about filler as they do about ecchi fanservice. |
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| I love fanservice and the ecchi genre is one of my favourite but just like anything else it needs care into it. The reason why some complains about it is because it really can ruin the flow of certains scene or character. Personally I prefer fanservice in shows that just embrace their ecchiness like the monogatari, shokugeki and kill la kill instead of in those who just want spatter it then and there just for the sake of it like in one piece or fairy tail. |
ToG25thBaam said: it's not hard to imagine why try to think of a great action scene, tensed, blood pumping action packed, and then there's juggling titties going across your screen, it's hard to take it seriously and you just can't help but facepalm / laugh at shit like that. Think of this scene in Highschool of the Dead, this scene is still awesome, but in a totally different way that I would've imagined. It's more funny awesome than say, total badass. It ruins the mood of the series as well. Nice bait lol HotD anime was never meant to be taken seriously, in this case the constant fanservice was clearly a director's standpoint, it's pretty obvious it's aware it's ridiculous and tries to make the most of it. Whether you like this kind of thing or not is another story but that's pretty much the worst point you could make against fanservice. |
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Bakchos said: Quite —Sphinxter said: They don't seem to say things about the other things that might take up time — it's very often specific to fan-service. Which probably implies it's sexual morality. I think what @Sphinxter said is true too. People don't seem to complain as much about filler as they do about ecchi fanservice. I'd also like to point out that however much people seem to complain about "nudity" being shown for no other reason but to show nudity, it's certainly a lot more common to omit nudity often with very uncomfortable angels and excuses where by all reasonable standards if there were no moral phobia for nudity, nudity would've been shown. Having said that I dislike all forms of "filler" that in no way seem to advance anything but I don't treat fan-service differently in that regard and be there filler I'd rather it be fan-service than useless "culture festival episodes" without it. |
SphinxterJun 24, 2019 10:28 AM
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
| Fanservice? You mean the anime is shit so we gotta show some panties to make up for it? Beats me. |
| I don't frown at all fanservice. However, I certainly do frown if it appears in something that is not a comedy. There's nothing more annoying than watching something serious, and having oversized bouncing breasts and asses in your face. |
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Sphinxter said: They don't seem to say things about the other things that might take up time — it's very often specific to fan-service. Which probably implies it's sexual morality. Honestly, yeah, I feel this is the case as well. The plethora of other types of content that isn't directly based in the primary genre of the show - a huge proprotion of action series make use of comedic pauses, comedies and iyashikei can have moments of drama, so on and so forth - get brought up a fraction of the time while being exponentially more prominent than fanservice is. And I'm just talking about these types of opinions people hold for shows that have fanservice, but not frequently or prominently enough to be generally considered an ecchi series whenever I say that. It's even more stupid when this type of criticism is being applied to shows that are ecchi and put fanservice and sexualization at the forefront of the genre like we're already seeing from users in this thread, at which point it becomes the equivalent of bitching about a comedy for having the audacity to have comedic moments in it and is nothing more than "Why does this thing I don't want to exist have the audacity to exist?" Really, though, as much as many people make it out to be a distraction from some other element they'd rather be seeing, it very much operates in isolation from the variety of other ways that series distract themselves from the central genre. It gets treated with what's frankly hyperbole about fanservice's prominence, whereas the same level of frequency and widespreadness of these complaints aren't at all being applied in a way that'd make these people have consistent criticisms in regards to "distracting from the narrative/base idea of the series." At best, it's trying to ascribe a degree of objectivity to their complaints about fanservice that they cannot uphold because it's rooted in a particular contempt for this type of content in general. Which is insanely fucking subjective and has no right being pinned on the series itself because it's a personal dislike for a type of content and nothing more. That's fine to dislike it, I don't care, but it's not fine to try to present its existence as an objective problem and then have no consistency as a consensus in applying the fundamental issue they're taking with fanservice. ---- Also, hai hai, fanservice supporter des~ (◕ᴗ◕✿) Just coming in to remind people that I'm a huge fan of anime tiddies and pantsu 'cause we actually exist, and that trying to treat sexualized entertainment as being sexualized due to the creator feeling a need to compensate for a perceived lack of quality is laughable because it tries to insinuate that there aren't people who actually want to create sexy things in the first place, which is absurd. Not everything is going to be made 100% to your tastes or be what you want to see. It's fine to hold it against a series when that's the case, but it doesn't suddenly invalidate any creative aspects of it as being illegitimate or lesser, nor does trying to objectivize an argument that's always essentially going to amount to "I wanted it to be this but it was this instead!" make you look like you know what you're talking about - if anything, it's quite the opposite due to the level of posturing inherent in trying to present something in such a fashion. |
ManabanJun 24, 2019 11:14 AM
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Manaban said: A succinct description of a man's thought process in general — rarely does he base his opinions on his purported rationalization therefore. In almost all cases the opinion comes first and the rationalization thereafter.At best, it's trying to ascribe a degree of objectivity to their complaints about fanservice that they cannot uphold because it's rooted in a particular contempt for this type of content in general. |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
Bakchos said: As for other people's perspectives, my observations have been that fanservice (and sex appeal in general) is seen as somewhat of a cheap way to get an audience's attention, and thus seen as lowbrow.I've seen people say any ounce of fanservice can completely ruin an otherwise good anime for them. We know how much ecchi is looked down on in the community, but I really don't get why. If you're against any and all fanservice, why do you have that stance? Do you think an anime is worse if it has fanservice? Do you consider something that has fanservice bellow their non-fanservice counterparts? As for my own opinion, I'm not opposed to sex appeal per se (and frankly speaking I think anime character art is generally rather aesthetically pleasing). But a lot of standard anime fanservice tropes do not appeal to me; if anything they just make a loud point of "hey you like sex appeal, here's some sex appeal, lap it up", and that's why it feels cheap and pandery (in a bad way, obviously). Some people like to argue that fanservice (particularly fanservice of female characters, specifically) may be disrespectful toward those characters and/or girls/women in general, and I can certainly understand why they'd think that way, but I'd like to point out that that same fanservice may also be disrespectful toward the male audiences it's meant for, by what might be even more salient reasoning, since the nature of such fanservice involves fictional characters but real-life audiences. Still, I don't object to its existence, nor do I object to other people liking it. I will still complain about it if I don't enjoy it in a show I watch, but I do that for anything else I don't like in a show that I watch. |
GlennMagusHarveyJun 24, 2019 11:04 AM
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Manaban said: Just coming in to remind people that I'm a huge fan of anime tiddies and pantsu 'cause we actually exist, and that trying to treat sexualized entertainment as being sexualized due to the creator feeling a need to compensate for a perceived lack of quality is laughable because it tries to insinuate that there aren't people who actually want to create sexy things in the first place, which is absurd. Not everything is going to be made 100% to your tastes or be what you want to see. It's fine to hold it against a series when that's the case, but it doesn't suddenly invalidate any creative aspects of it as being illegitimate or lesser, nor does trying to objectivize an argument that's always essentially going to amount to "I wanted it to be this but it was this instead!" make you look like you know what you're talking about - if anything, it's quite the opposite due to the level of posturing inherent in trying to present something in such a fashion. Wow, thank you for this post. I was starting to doubt myself with so many people being this much against it, but you @Manaban and @Sphinxter were much better articulate than I could have ever been. |
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Bakchos said: Manaban said: Just coming in to remind people that I'm a huge fan of anime tiddies and pantsu 'cause we actually exist, and that trying to treat sexualized entertainment as being sexualized due to the creator feeling a need to compensate for a perceived lack of quality is laughable because it tries to insinuate that there aren't people who actually want to create sexy things in the first place, which is absurd. Not everything is going to be made 100% to your tastes or be what you want to see. It's fine to hold it against a series when that's the case, but it doesn't suddenly invalidate any creative aspects of it as being illegitimate or lesser, nor does trying to objectivize an argument that's always essentially going to amount to "I wanted it to be this but it was this instead!" make you look like you know what you're talking about - if anything, it's quite the opposite due to the level of posturing inherent in trying to present something in such a fashion. Wow, thank you for this post. I was starting to doubt myself with so many people being this much against it, but you @Manaban and @Sphinxter were much better articulate than I could have ever been. If you like it, then fuck these people, honestly >_> Like I just got done talking about in another thread, there's a good goddamn reason why three of the ten largest clubs on this site are harem and ecchi themed, and it *might* have something to do with people just not wanting to deal with this board's constant, asinine babbling on this topic. Actually, I know that's a popular fucking sentiment, I run the largest of these stupid fucking clubs people are just saying "fuck it" and heading into. They shouldn't have any bearing on what you like you in the first place, and if you want to try to discuss it you can always put more effort into extrapolating what elements draw you to it and why you like it rather than thinking "Well this person sounds like they're being fair" or "a lot of people or saying this, maybe they have a point" - somebody being fair doesn't mean that you have to agree with them or anything or that they have a point relevant to you, y'know? And there's a reason Argumentum ad Populum is considered a logical fallacy and the amount of people saying something isn't ever going to have a huge bearing on whether or not they're actually *right* in what they're saying. But outside of that, it's a war :> And given the way the war often does feel, there's a reason I tried to tell our GFXer at H&E to base our club's colors off of Finland. Let them keep midnlessly marching in, just to get run over. It's amazing how many people you can press for extrapolation and then how few can actually back up their stance the more you press them on it. |
ManabanJun 24, 2019 11:21 AM
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| I think a reason why people don't like fanservice in a sexual, is that it may make the anime not serious or more comedic. I guess that's alright in a romance/comedy anime, but it probably wouldn't fit in an action/horror/psychological types of anime. |
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| Yeah, I like them anime tiddies. And I think I very rarely, if ever, thought a should would be somehow magically better without them. If something is bad with tits, it would be equally as bad without them, potentially more so. A good story is good, regardless if it adds some nudity to it, and if you're among people who find it distracting/disturbing for whatever reason, that's on you, a show's quality isn't reduced. I also very much disagree with the notion that you somehow needs to justify presence of fanservice in a show/scene. It's fine if you want to tackle sexuality more seriously, some shows do that and it's a cool thing to do. But nudity and sexuality are part of life and they can exist by themselves without delving into it any elaborate way, I find it baffling when people say a bath scene or something of the sort should be done without. Nope. Nudity and sexy things are also something many people enjoy and want to see, so it's not a surprise many shows are created with them as selling points. They can be an additional thing, in a show that has a bigger focus on something else. Like an action show with some skimpy costumes. Frankly, that is a concept I like a lot and I would love to see something like already mentioned HotD but better, with less obnoxious characters. So yeah, my point is, wrting off presence of nudity in a show as a fault, or creators' inability to do otherwise, is retarded. Most of the time they are deliberate choices that both sides want. Don't want that stuff? Sure, not for you. There is PLENTY action (or any genre, that combines itself with ecchi sometimes) shows that have very little or none. Probably more than the opposite. Speaking of which, I also can't wrap my head around the whole hate for Fairy Tail and its fanservice, when its something present from like the very beginning and people go in further and keep trashing the show for clearly not being what they wanted to see. Just move on, there is tons of long running shonen, majority don't have ecchi scenes or once in forever. Honestly, I feel I love the show for the exact same reasons people hate it, and it's somewhat unique for that. I love lucy, I love the fanservice, and I love the friendship power scenes - Tenrou Island hand holding is 100% the best cheese ever. But whatever, I digress with FT. Either way, I don't know why is it that so many people hate it so much they genuinely seem to believe a show is worse for having it, but whatever, let them. There's some appreciation for it too. I just hate how obnoxious some people can be with their dislike for it. Show so much contempt to both the anime and people who enjoy them. Not to mention the silly, but I think genuine, belief that it's something objectively bad and shouldn't be done. This pretentious, scornful attitude towards not only the thing they dislike, which they have all the tools in the world to avoid, but also people who like it, is honestly fucking disgusting and extremely immature. And it's shown by few people here in this thread. |
ImaishiJun 24, 2019 11:18 AM
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| Thank you to @Bakchos for highlighting this (and quoting it at the risk of Manaban giving me another angry lecture): Manaban said: I definitely agree. To be more specific:Just coming in to remind people that I'm a huge fan of anime tiddies and pantsu 'cause we actually exist, and that trying to treat sexualized entertainment as being sexualized due to the creator feeling a need to compensate for a perceived lack of quality is laughable because it tries to insinuate that there aren't people who actually want to create sexy things in the first place, which is absurd. Not everything is going to be made 100% to your tastes or be what you want to see. It's fine to hold it against a series when that's the case, but it doesn't suddenly invalidate any creative aspects of it as being illegitimate or lesser, nor does trying to objectivize an argument that's always essentially going to amount to "I wanted it to be this but it was this instead!" make you look like you know what you're talking about - if anything, it's quite the opposite due to the level of posturing inherent in trying to present something in such a fashion. * There are people who particularly like fanservice, ecchi, sex appeal. * Works that focus on these elements may be catered to them. * Works that have elements that someone in the dislikes or feels doesn't fit are not inherently bad or lesser because of those elements. In turn this is why I feel that experiences of creative media can be pretty personal things, and there's no truly objective measure of "good" or "bad" when it comes to stuff -- and why I characterize it as "effective" or "ineffective", since that acknowledges that different people watch shows with different desires/intentions in mind. |
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TF2Mario said: I'd say fanservice ruins a characters "purity", or rather if you have great respect towards a character, you don't want to see them sexualized. I have more respect for characters after they show skin than before. No prude characters. Thanks.~ |
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| In most cases of Fan-service, all I see is more skin, emphasized body features, and materialistic changes all of which take a toll on the whole story comparatively. There are only a very few examples of Fan-service being done right, in which the whole enjoyment actually goes up instead of just getting some extra eye-candy :( |
Robinne said: Not a bait and not my point. Anyone who wanted to watch a zombie anime would go to HotD first and most people expected something like The Walking Dead. And I never did say it wasn't good.Nice bait lol HotD anime was never meant to be taken seriously, in this case the constant fanservice was clearly a director's standpoint, it's pretty obvious it's aware it's ridiculous and tries to make the most of it. Whether you like this kind of thing or not is another story but that's pretty much the worst point you could make against fanservice. I was trying to make a case of a fanservice filled zombie anime aka HotD vs a properly written one. Not that hard to imagine how awesome HotD would've been without the fanservice. |
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| I find fan service mildly infuriating, as if the production company is assuming that the mass audience would watch the anime if there's more skinship involved. A recent anime I watched was Kaze no Stigma, along with it's unnecessary pantie shots, tries to make up for it's below mediocre plot. |
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| First, Fanservice is a really wide term and it's thrown wrongly most of the times. Now, I usually don't care about ecchi fanservice unless its invasive to the point it gets distracting and feels forced. So I'd say it depends on the show, and how it handles it. |
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