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Aug 13, 2018 2:13 PM
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Disclaimer:

I'm not talking about what each of your personal scores mean, nor what MAL scores are meant to mean, but how can we interpret anime mean scores from this site.

My interpretation is:

8,5 - 10:
Has Good/Strong objective factors (e.g. Animation, OST, etc), likes usually by both the entire community (From casuals to "elitists") and even outsiders.
Expect either quality content or just a very obstinate fanbase Gintama

7,5 - 8,5:
Here the "general consensus" stops. The "upper half" of seasonal anime while they're airing will be (Usually) here.

6,0 - 7,5:
Average/Mediocre stuff will usually be here, either this or such series is just too niche/has failures that really bother people. The "lower half" of seasonal anime while they're airing will be (Usually) here.

Anything below 6,0:

MAL rarelly puts something here,but if it happened, it is general consensus that it is from bad to trash.
Expect bad to terrible animation, convoluted to non-sensical stories, "worses of their kind" and people unironically giving them a 10.

So, how about you?
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Aug 13, 2018 2:15 PM
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My interpretation is:

MAL averages don't mean shit.
Aug 13, 2018 2:17 PM
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generally anything above 6 can be enjoyable. if it has a score below that i might look at some reviews or actually read the synopsis instead of just looking at the pictures to decide if i want to watch it
Aug 13, 2018 2:19 PM
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You also need to take into consideration things like when it came out, demographics, etc, since some random 80's show with like a 6 mean is probably not as bad as a new show with the same mean, although there are always exceptions.
Aug 13, 2018 2:20 PM
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Anything above a 6 is just not worth your time, 6 to 4 is like the decent/good stuff
and below 4 is the god tier stuff.
Aug 13, 2018 2:20 PM
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My second favorite anime of all time, Texhnolyze, which I consider to be a masterpiece, has a mean score of 7.78. And I've seen anime scored in the high 8s/9s that I thought was just alright. So I really don't pay any mind to the mean scores on MAL.
Aug 13, 2018 2:21 PM
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9-10 Legendary
7-8 Attractive
5-6 Last resort
3-4 Forbidden knowledge
1-2 Masochism

Aug 13, 2018 2:22 PM
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Pretty much anything above a 7 can be at least enjoyable cuz most people don't give low ratings I mean even berserk 2017 has a score above 7 ffs. A show has to be comedically bad to get a rating lower than that
Aug 13, 2018 2:23 PM
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Well those mean scores are mostly a lie.
Aug 13, 2018 2:23 PM

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NickDen said:
My second favorite anime of all time, Texhnolyze, which I consider to be a masterpiece, has a mean score of 7.78. And I've seen anime scored in the high 8s/9s that I thought was just alright. So I really don't pay any mind to the mean scores on MAL.


Neither do i, but we can't deny it provides useful information about how the community reacts to it.
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thewiru said:
NickDen said:
My second favorite anime of all time, Texhnolyze, which I consider to be a masterpiece, has a mean score of 7.78. And I've seen anime scored in the high 8s/9s that I thought was just alright. So I really don't pay any mind to the mean scores on MAL.


Neither do i, but we can't deny it provides useful information about how the community reacts to it.

Ah ok that is true, I may have misinterpreted the purpose of your original post a bit.
Aug 13, 2018 2:27 PM

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Generally a show with a 7 or above will probably be worth my time unless its a hugely popular series.





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I don't usually take MAL average scores seriously because they're inflated as hell. Not to mention, I ended up watching a handful shows that reached over the 8 mark on MAL because of that high score and thought they were pretty bad or just okay, while other shows that score around 7.30 to the 7.70 mark were surprisingly great.
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if i rate it a 9-10 that means it's objectively good
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NickDen said:
My second favorite anime of all time, Texhnolyze, which I consider to be a masterpiece, has a mean score of 7.78. And I've seen anime scored in the high 8s/9s that I thought was just alright. So I really don't pay any mind to the mean scores on MAL.


Almost all of your other favorites are at least in the middle to high 8's, so common bruh.

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FMmatron said:
NickDen said:
My second favorite anime of all time, Texhnolyze, which I consider to be a masterpiece, has a mean score of 7.78. And I've seen anime scored in the high 8s/9s that I thought was just alright. So I really don't pay any mind to the mean scores on MAL.


Almost all of your other favorites are at least in the middle to high 8's, so common bruh.

That may be true but even if they weren't it wouldn't affect how I view them at all. It does make me happy that a lot of people enjoy my favorites of course but it isn't ultimately all that imperative.
Aug 13, 2018 2:44 PM

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I'd say mid to high 8's are where the general consensus of being liked by both communities are. Most 9+ rated shows are just bloated by their fanbases

7 - 7.5 is where most of the "cliche" or "generic" shows lie

Low 6's and under are pretty much meme shows


Of course, there's always the hidden gems and subjectivity comes into play
Aug 13, 2018 2:45 PM
Many shows with high scores are overrated. Others are just popular. Some are underrated.

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I interpret MAL's anime mean scores as:
- a method for people to choose an anime to watch based on how the community as a whole rates it.
- a benchmark for some people rating a show so they don't stand out from the "average" with a score too high or too low.
- a visible mark of supposed quality for those that like to brag how they only watch/like/favorite the "best" shows.

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NickDen said:
FMmatron said:


Almost all of your other favorites are at least in the middle to high 8's, so common bruh.

That may be true but even if they weren't it wouldn't affect how I view them at all. It does make me happy that a lot of people enjoy my favorites of course but it isn't ultimately all that imperative.


I didn't imply that, but singling out Tex while the rest is suggesting something else seemed a bit misleading, especially in this thread.

Usually you see people saying stuff like scores don't matter, but then you look at their scores and confirm that they tend to rate the upper end of spectrum higher.

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FMmatron said:
NickDen said:

That may be true but even if they weren't it wouldn't affect how I view them at all. It does make me happy that a lot of people enjoy my favorites of course but it isn't ultimately all that imperative.


I didn't imply that, but singling out Tex while the rest is suggesting something else seemed a bit misleading, especially in this thread.

Usually you see people saying stuff like scores don't matter, but then you look at their scores and confirm that they tend to rate the upper end of spectrum higher.

How is it misleading? It is rated relatively lowly on MAL and I thought it was a 10/10. I have also rated many high scoring shows lowly. Code Geass R2 is scored at an 8.94 and I rated it as a 4. BnHA season 3 is scored at an 8.83 and I have it rated as a 4. Psycho-Pass is rated at an 8.44 and I thought it was a 5. Like I said, MAL scores are irrelevant to me.
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Let me pull out my copypasta that I made for such occasions:

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That depends on a lot of factors. MAL scores need to be interpreted accordingly, they can't always be taken at face value.

For a popular, mainstream seasonal a low score means something went horribly wrong, because a lot of people with very top-leaning scoring systems (like mostly using the 7-10 ratings for everything) so if the score is still low, it probably means something.

For more obscure shows, it means less because those are mostly watched by more veteran fans who use the whole rating scale more liberally. A 6.xx score for some old obscure OVA is a decent score, but for a very recent mainstream show with 100k viewers, it probably indicates that it is crap.

And certain genres or types of anime are in a similar vein. Kids shows always get lower rating by default, so a 7.xx score for a kids show like Youkai Watch means it's gonna be pretty great (and it is). Ecchi also tends to get the lower end of the rating stick so ecchi fans know not to value their scores too much when picking what to watch. Shorts in general probably get the lowest ratings cause people are just used to industry works and many can't really appreciate experimental short, with weird animation and no real plot. Even 5.xx scores for shorts still indicate that they are likely to be quite good, and I found stuff that I enjoyed at pretty much any rating when it comes to shorts. And lastly old stuff in general gets lower scores because people just have this inherent bias that new is automatically better than old. Sure, there are some classics with decent scores, but in general you should probably add a few .xx points to any old show's score to get a more accurate idea of its reception.
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NickDen said:
FMmatron said:


I didn't imply that, but singling out Tex while the rest is suggesting something else seemed a bit misleading, especially in this thread.

Usually you see people saying stuff like scores don't matter, but then you look at their scores and confirm that they tend to rate the upper end of spectrum higher.

How is it misleading? It is rated relatively lowly on MAL and I thought it was a 10/10. I have also rated many high scoring shows lowly. Code Geass R2 is scored at an 8.94 and I rated it as a 4. BnHA season 3 is scored at an 8.83 and I have it rated as a 4. Psycho-Pass is rated at an 8.44 and I thought it was a 5. Like I said, MAL scores are irrelevant to me.


The OP provided some points based meanscores and how the anime are received by majority.

The first thing you did is mention one exception where OP's criterias not apply and say you don't pay any mind. Furthermore, you might not think that every 8+ anime is fantastic, but according to your scores one can still see that you favor them compared to shows with a lower mean.

So the examples where it doesn't apply don't mean much compared to the ones where it does, just wanted to point that out ✌

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Pullman said:
Let me pull out my copypasta that I made for such occasions:

Pullman said:
That depends on a lot of factors. MAL scores need to be interpreted accordingly, they can't always be taken at face value.

For a popular, mainstream seasonal a low score means something went horribly wrong, because a lot of people with very top-leaning scoring systems (like mostly using the 7-10 ratings for everything) so if the score is still low, it probably means something.

For more obscure shows, it means less because those are mostly watched by more veteran fans who use the whole rating scale more liberally. A 6.xx score for some old obscure OVA is a decent score, but for a very recent mainstream show with 100k viewers, it probably indicates that it is crap.

And certain genres or types of anime are in a similar vein. Kids shows always get lower rating by default, so a 7.xx score for a kids show like Youkai Watch means it's gonna be pretty great (and it is). Ecchi also tends to get the lower end of the rating stick so ecchi fans know not to value their scores too much when picking what to watch. Shorts in general probably get the lowest ratings cause people are just used to industry works and many can't really appreciate experimental short, with weird animation and no real plot. Even 5.xx scores for shorts still indicate that they are likely to be quite good, and I found stuff that I enjoyed at pretty much any rating when it comes to shorts. And lastly old stuff in general gets lower scores because people just have this inherent bias that new is automatically better than old. Sure, there are some classics with decent scores, but in general you should probably add a few .xx points to any old show's score to get a more accurate idea of its reception.


Summed up perfectly. I hate how dismissive some people are about MAL scores. A lot of them you shouldn’t take at face value(older shows, kids shows etc), but for the more recent things it’s pretty accurate(most of the time lol)

Apoligies for basically summarizing your post lol.

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I don't interpret MAL's score.
Yes, I enjoy some shows/manga that rated high here, but I also find some 5.xx and 6.xx to be more interesting than most 7.xx and 8.xx.

Also, I just discovered an interesting author who has works mostly rated 5,XX to 6.XX here and from six of her/his works only one has passed through 7 score. If I relied on MAL's score, I would never discover those interesting-low rated shows/manga.
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9.0+ Circlejerked shows with a cult following of people sucking the show off even though its overrated trash
8.0+ bad anime
7.0+ anime
6.0+ more obscure anime
5.0+ what
4.0+ coming out in 2020
3.0 and below are the good shit
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Aug 13, 2018 3:34 PM

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That depends on a lot of things, and as you delve into watching more obscure series, you'll find that mean scores don't hold much weight and you shouldn't take them at face value. They're even more meaningless as indicators of quality when you consider just how many users rate based on enjoyment. That's not to say mean scores should be completely ignored though, as it's pretty easy to make a distinction between a decent title in the 6s to a garbage title in the 3s/4s based on how many total ratings it has.

For example, Anju to Zushioumaru (1961) and Wanpaku Ouji no Orochi Taiji (1963) are two obscure movies that I doubt many fans other than enthusiasts would watch. Both have a mean score lower than 6.40 which isn't good by global standards, but it's a decent score when you consider that most of those ratings probably come from users who use the full 1-10 rating scale.
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FMmatron said:
NickDen said:

How is it misleading? It is rated relatively lowly on MAL and I thought it was a 10/10. I have also rated many high scoring shows lowly. Code Geass R2 is scored at an 8.94 and I rated it as a 4. BnHA season 3 is scored at an 8.83 and I have it rated as a 4. Psycho-Pass is rated at an 8.44 and I thought it was a 5. Like I said, MAL scores are irrelevant to me.


The OP provided some points based meanscores and how the anime are received by majority.

The first thing you did is mention one exception where OP's criterias not apply and say you don't pay any mind. Furthermore, you might not think that every 8+ anime is fantastic, but according to your scores one can still see that you favor them compared to shows with a lower mean.

So the examples where it doesn't apply don't mean much compared to the ones where it does, just wanted to point that out ✌

Yeah but my only point was that "I really don't pay any mind to the mean scores on MAL" which is the truth. The fact that most of my favorites are scored 8+ have nothing to do with this claim, since like I said they could be scored in the 5s and I would feel the same about them. And I already admitted that I misinterpreted the purpose of this thread when the OP quoted me, so I am not necessarily disagreeing with the OP. Anyways, this conversation is going nowhere, have a nice day.
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Pullman said:
Let me pull out my copypasta that I made for such occasions:



Summed up perfectly. I hate how dismissive some people are about MAL scores. A lot of them you shouldn’t take at face value(older shows, kids shows etc), but for the more recent things it’s pretty accurate(most of the time lol)

Apoligies for basically summarizing your post lol.


Yeah. People also

a) get hung up on individual examples of where something didn't align with their personal opinion and overvalue them compared to all the other examples where it's roughly accurate. They forget it's about probability not individual examples, those can be statistically irrelevant when you still rate 90% of shows that have an 8+ score higher than 90% of shows with a score below 7. That's usefulness right there, but people are all dismissive and ignorant about it because of that small percentage of memorable shows where their opinion strongly deviates from the mean score.

b) forget that the mean score, no matter how indicative of quality it might be, does not magically overwrite personal preferences. You're not gonna like a highly rated show from a genre you just generally dislike. That's now a weakness of the scoring system, that's their fault for not knowing what to pay attention to when picking a show to watch.

and c) just completely overreact to minimal differences. Like, a 7.8 score is still a very good score so I'd never say the MAL score was misleading even if that anime became my favorite and I personally find it better than 7.8. How good people find it can vary, but 7.8 still indcates that it should be good and that's really all you should need from a mean score, a vague indication of potential, and the rest is just subjectivity whether it's a 7 or a 10 for you. Now if it was below 7 or even below 6 and I find it to be a 9 or 10 then I see that case as a 'fail' in terms of MAL giving me the right indication of what to expect or hope for, which leads back to a) because even that on it's own doesn't delegitimize the scoring system's usefulness.
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idk i feel like all scores are subjective at the end of the day
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NickDen said:
FMmatron said:


The OP provided some points based meanscores and how the anime are received by majority.

The first thing you did is mention one exception where OP's criterias not apply and say you don't pay any mind. Furthermore, you might not think that every 8+ anime is fantastic, but according to your scores one can still see that you favor them compared to shows with a lower mean.

So the examples where it doesn't apply don't mean much compared to the ones where it does, just wanted to point that out ✌

Yeah but my only point was that "I really don't pay any mind to the mean scores on MAL" which is the truth. The fact that most of my favorites are scored 8+ have nothing to do with this claim, since like I said they could be scored in the 5s and I would feel the same about them. And I already admitted that I misinterpreted the purpose of this thread when the OP quoted me, so I am not necessarily disagreeing with the OP. Anyways, this conversation is going nowhere, have a nice day.


You phrased it like you didn't pay attention to the scores because of that one example of Texhnolyze which made you think they are meaningless. That argumentation is flawed and statistically the score does seem to correlate with how much you like something to a large enough degree that you should maybe consider paying at least some attention to them even if you currently don't, which I'm not gonna doubt. Just a friendly recommendation.

Or maybe you'll just need to pick up a few random 5.xx or 4.xx rated shows by accident - since you don't pay attention to the score - to realize that paying some attention can only be beneficial, if only for avoiding the really bad stuff. Because the really low scores are way more reliable than the high ones, trust me :>
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I don't take much stock in the ratings, but I do like looking at the reviews. I think that tells me a lot more about how a series is received and it's nice to read thoughts from others who feel the same way I do and also learn new things that challenge my old views.
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NickDen said:
FMmatron said:


The OP provided some points based meanscores and how the anime are received by majority.

The first thing you did is mention one exception where OP's criterias not apply and say you don't pay any mind. Furthermore, you might not think that every 8+ anime is fantastic, but according to your scores one can still see that you favor them compared to shows with a lower mean.

So the examples where it doesn't apply don't mean much compared to the ones where it does, just wanted to point that out ✌

Yeah but my only point was that "I really don't pay any mind to the mean scores on MAL" which is the truth. The fact that most of my favorites are scored 8+ have nothing to do with this claim, since like I said they could be scored in the 5s and I would feel the same about them. And I already admitted that I misinterpreted the purpose of this thread when the OP quoted me, so I am not necessarily disagreeing with the OP. Anyways, this conversation is going nowhere, have a nice day.


That's not the point, the point of this thread are the scores, also that higher scored shows are obviously better received and your favs are no exception whether you mind their scores or not, they're still there.

I just wanted you to realize that, but it seems you already did, so likewise.

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Depends. With ecchi, mean scores can go fuck themselves almost entirely and have proven to be extremely vaguely useful at best, and tell me almost nothing about how much I'll like or dislike something or what to expect going in. Reviews and mean scores are entirely irrelevant to me when I choose something like that because of how often they've done nothing for me. I place no value or trust in that department, and that isn't just a matter of "wah they always have low scores," but even relative to each other they seem to make little fucking sense at all. They don't even say shit about production values and how clean or pretty it looks or moves ffs, which is usually something that can bounce a score up by a good margin, it feels like. It's just...Iunno. Weird and pretty much worth entirely disregarding.

The only real consistent thing I've found is that series that focus on the ecchi significantly less than average, to the point where it can be argued quite a bit over whether or not they should even have the tag, and push the majority of their focus onto other elements tend to get much higher mean scores overall. Which, again, is pretty much completely useless to me if I'm looking for an actual fucking ecchi. Quite the opposite, even. It almost serves as a warning that it isn't what I'm looking for at the moment. NGNL might've been the only thing I'd consider an exception to this rule.

In most other areas I still wouldn't put a huge amount of weight on them, but I'd definitely almost take note of something with a score 8.75 or above as something potentially interesting. And it isn't straight down to irrelevancy below that or anything, but I am more likely to notice it and I'd be shitting myself if I acted like it was otherwise. Which saddens me a bit because it feels like I'm caving into peer pressure in a weird way.
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I usually avoid anything below 6. Also, anything above is 7 is enjoyable enough, at least from my experience

Though, there are some factors to consider. The year that the anime aired, animation its genres. There are many people out there who won't give a good score, just because the animation isn't that good or it's a genre they don't like.
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Depends. With ecchi, mean scores can go fuck themselves almost entirely and have proven to be extremely vaguely useful at best, and tell me almost nothing about how much I'll like or dislike something or what to expect going in. Reviews and mean scores are entirely irrelevant to me when I choose something like that because of how often they've done nothing for me.

In most other areas I still wouldn't put a huge amount of weight on them, but I'd definitely almost take note of something with a score 8.75 or above as something potentially interesting. And it isn't straight down to irrelevancy below that or anything, but I am more likely to notice it. Which saddens me a bit because it feels like I'm caving into peer pressure in a weird way.


You're either caving to peer-pressure or to hipster-pressure. Either way you're a sheep so don't worry about it too much :>
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Most people either use their own scoring system or rate on a 7-10 scale, so I don't pay much attention to MAL score unless it's extremely low (5-).
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You can literally see the description beside the score.
8 is very good, and go on.
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Yeah but my only point was that "I really don't pay any mind to the mean scores on MAL" which is the truth. The fact that most of my favorites are scored 8+ have nothing to do with this claim, since like I said they could be scored in the 5s and I would feel the same about them. And I already admitted that I misinterpreted the purpose of this thread when the OP quoted me, so I am not necessarily disagreeing with the OP. Anyways, this conversation is going nowhere, have a nice day.


You phrased it like you didn't pay attention to the scores because of that one example of Texhnolyze which made you think they are meaningless. That argumentation is flawed and statistically the score does seem to correlate with how much you like something to a large enough degree that you should maybe consider paying at least some attention to them even if you currently don't, which I'm not gonna doubt. Just a friendly recommendation.

Or maybe you'll just need to pick up a few random 5.xx or 4.xx rated shows by accident - since you don't pay attention to the score - to realize that paying some attention can only be beneficial, if only for avoiding the really bad stuff. Because the really low scores are way more reliable than the high ones, trust me :>

I genuinely don't for the most part, most of the anime/manga I watch/read is based off of the recommendation of friends who have similar taste as me, which is how I ended up watching Texh. Either that or if the plot synopsis interests me. But yes, I concede that if an anime/manga is scored below a 6 chances are I'll probably not enjoy it. I will accordingly revise my original statement from "I really don't pay any mind to the mean scores on MAL." to "I really don't pay much mind to the mean scores on MAL." And I have already come to the conclusion that I agree with the OP, my original response was the result of me misinterpreting their conclusions because quite frankly I am drowsy as shit right now.
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Mal average scores mean nothing to me

A show could be at a "6" which most can consider generic or somewhat enjoyable could be a 9 or 10 for some others.

Example: Boku no pic is under a 5, in my eyes it was amazing. Driven story, heartfelt romance and amazing cinematography


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I usually won't give my time to anything rated less than 5.50. Anything above 7 for me makes me think it's definitely worth it.
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The way you described it is pretty much accurate in my opinion, though I would lower the highest bar from 8,5-10 to 8,1-10 or 8,2-10.
I personally like almost any genre so it's kinda hard to find a niche genre or type of anime that I don't like, so I generally tend to enjoy every anime above 6,0 rating and I usually like stuff from my favorite genres regardless of the MAL rating.
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I used to only watch MAL shows that were scored above 8 because I had no taste and just went with the crowd. Now that I've got a better feel for things, I've noticed that MAL users generally score based on the anime or manga's reputation, so its score is unlikely to fall/rise (depending on whether it's widely loved or widely hated).

If I had to generalise, I'd say that most things are rated about 2 points too highly overall and people need to start rating things across the scale. A lot of people seem to only rate a 6 and above (because they feel guilty or something?) so there is no way to discern between 'good' and 'bad' shows because they've all blended together due to them all having ridiculously high scores.
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it's general consensus of it's watcher, my personal prefference might different..
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~9:mostly overated
~7-8:mostly underated
~5-6:boku no pico
~3-4:fucked up shits
~1-2:anime elitists belonging
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Pullman said:
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Summed up perfectly. I hate how dismissive some people are about MAL scores. A lot of them you shouldn’t take at face value(older shows, kids shows etc), but for the more recent things it’s pretty accurate(most of the time lol)

Apoligies for basically summarizing your post lol.


Yeah. People also

a) get hung up on individual examples of where something didn't align with their personal opinion and overvalue them compared to all the other examples where it's roughly accurate. They forget it's about probability not individual examples, those can be statistically irrelevant when you still rate 90% of shows that have an 8+ score higher than 90% of shows with a score below 7. That's usefulness right there, but people are all dismissive and ignorant about it because of that small percentage of memorable shows where their opinion strongly deviates from the mean score.

b) forget that the mean score, no matter how indicative of quality it might be, does not magically overwrite personal preferences. You're not gonna like a highly rated show from a genre you just generally dislike. That's now a weakness of the scoring system, that's their fault for not knowing what to pay attention to when picking a show to watch.

and c) just completely overreact to minimal differences. Like, a 7.8 score is still a very good score so I'd never say the MAL score was misleading even if that anime became my favorite and I personally find it better than 7.8. How good people find it can vary, but 7.8 still indcates that it should be good and that's really all you should need from a mean score, a vague indication of potential, and the rest is just subjectivity whether it's a 7 or a 10 for you. Now if it was below 7 or even below 6 and I find it to be a 9 or 10 then I see that case as a 'fail' in terms of MAL giving me the right indication of what to expect or hope for, which leads back to a) because even that on it's own doesn't delegitimize the scoring system's usefulness.


I agree that MAL's score can be useful to interpret it as a way to define what show to watch next. But I am exactly one who is standing in a; who choose to be an ignorant and see no reason to do so (at least that's what I do now). But I choose so for a reason.

Honestly I don't pay much attention to what score a show or manga does have but it's unavoidable not to see it when you rate it. I admit that statistically speaking, the percentage I'd enjoy 7.xx and 8.xx rated show is higher than 5.xx and 6.xx show I tried. But mostly, the show that I find enjoyable in the 5 - 6.99 range has some uniqueness which I value the most (I am not talking about originality here, but more of the combination of some factors) that some of them even can be comparable to the show I rate 9 or 10. And it's especially the case for manga.

As you said that "That depends on a lot of factors. MAL scores need to be interpreted accordingly, they can't always be taken at face value.". And it's not only about the show is mainstream or obscure, or a certain demographic or genre of the show or maybe the character design it uses. Many factors can influence how someone enjoy anime and they are not usually easy to see for the first glance of its cover, such as writing style of the author or how the comedy presented or in short of what someone called as execution. If all those factors were considerate then how many categories should be made?

You can argue that that's where a review comes into play, but I don't want be spoiled when it's related to how the show/manga executed. I also want to avoid, as much as possible, external factors that could influence my experience, feeling or opinion about the show/manga I haven't tried.

So instead of choosing to rely on MAL's score (and other site's rating) and review, I choose to try whatever I feel like to watch or read. It may sound too random, but I want to rely on my past experience more than external factors.

So I see no reason to interpret MAL's score
_Mataga_Aug 13, 2018 7:03 PM
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How do you interpret MAL's anime mean scores?


8+
This show is generally very well-regarded and/or popular. There's a decent chance I'll be reasonably satisfied when watching them, but it's not a guarantee.

7 to 8
These shows are well-regarded, but not as popular as the 8+ ones. There's a decent chance I'll be reasonably satisfied when watching them, but it's not a guarantee.

6 to 7
These shows are not as well-regarded, or more obscure/niche. While some niche elements may make me not enjoy a show, there's still a decent chance I'll be reasonably satisfied when watching them, but it's not a guarantee.

5 to 6
These shows are not well-regarded, generally because the mainstream of the fandom considers them not noteworthy or bad. These are typically forgotten except by dedicated genre fans who are receptive to niche appeals. There's a somewhat smaller chance I'll be reasonably satisfied when watching them.

below 5
These shows are generally unknown, but poorly-regarded by the relatively few people who sought them out, who are probably the kinds of people to watch like everything. Typically there's something noticeably lacking/flawed/unusual about the show, such as it being only a series of shorts, or being just an advertising campaign, or having no English subs, or somesuch. There's a smaller chance I'll be reasonably satisfied when watching them.

As you can see, it's not actually very useful for me when picking out a show to watch. So I find it better to just ignore them.
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Only thing that crosses my mind when looking at a score is making sure it's at least above a 7. I don't think I've ever enjoyed a series that had a mean score lower than 7 (an exception being Grancrest Senki, but I think it's just a bit over 7 now). I tend to look more at how many people have watched more than the score, though.
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Pullman said:
That depends on a lot of factors. MAL scores need to be interpreted accordingly, they can't always be taken at face value.

For a popular, mainstream seasonal a low score means something went horribly wrong, because a lot of people with very top-leaning scoring systems (like mostly using the 7-10 ratings for everything) so if the score is still low, it probably means something.

For more obscure shows, it means less because those are mostly watched by more veteran fans who use the whole rating scale more liberally. A 6.xx score for some old obscure OVA is a decent score, but for a very recent mainstream show with 100k viewers, it probably indicates that it is crap.

And certain genres or types of anime are in a similar vein. Kids shows always get lower rating by default, so a 7.xx score for a kids show like Youkai Watch means it's gonna be pretty great (and it is). Ecchi also tends to get the lower end of the rating stick so ecchi fans know not to value their scores too much when picking what to watch. Shorts in general probably get the lowest ratings cause people are just used to industry works and many can't really appreciate experimental short, with weird animation and no real plot. Even 5.xx scores for shorts still indicate that they are likely to be quite good, and I found stuff that I enjoyed at pretty much any rating when it comes to shorts. And lastly old stuff in general gets lower scores because people just have this inherent bias that new is automatically better than old. Sure, there are some classics with decent scores, but in general you should probably add a few .xx points to any old show's score to get a more accurate idea of its reception.


This should be in the MAL Top Anime page, something like, "Guide for beginners - Meaning behind the scores".
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9.25 - 4.00 possibly overrated or underrated, lie, are just numbers.
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