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Aug 3, 2017 7:01 AM
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Nice chapter.

Nami mangaged to bring Zeus under her command.

Kingbaum was fighting for the sake of his fiancé and got attacked by Prometheus.

In the meantime Brûlée is waiting in her Mirrorworld along with a tons of soldiers who are ready to go and Katakuri himself is on the Sunny :O Damn the situation looks extremely tough and an escape without a fight seems unavoidable.

At the end Pudding got to talk with Chiffon. Chiffon said she wants to leave the island like Lola. And we also got to know that Pudding wants to stop Mama in order to protect Sanji and the others.





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Aug 3, 2017 8:03 AM
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Decent chapter. Surprised Zeus would entertain Nami like that... One would think BM would have supreme control over all homies, but I guess not.

And of course Katakuri is ready and waiting... Escape from this guy has always been an illusion
Aug 3, 2017 8:35 PM
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Just one question, where did u guys get the chapter from?
It hasn't been out anywhere
Aug 3, 2017 8:53 PM
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Kcoo1 said:
Just one question, where did u guys get the chapter from?
It hasn't been out anywhere


Raws have been out for a few days now.
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Nothing in this world lasts forever, and it´s time you accept that.
It's better to not cling to these things that you will eventually lose.
Aug 3, 2017 9:47 PM
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All escape route have been blocked.. more likely pudding will save them here..

Wait another break?
Aug 4, 2017 1:17 AM
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Aug 4, 2017 1:20 AM
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Big Mama reminds me of the type of toxic players from video games that throws tandrums over everything lol

Aug 4, 2017 1:35 AM
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I'm happy that the chapter is finally out!

I didn't think Zeus was suddenly going to switch sides.

I've given up trying to predict what side Pudding is on...

Based Katakuri is just chilling on the boat. Escape is looking more and more impossible.
Aug 4, 2017 1:35 AM
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So if im not mistaking there was supposed to be a double issue this week. Where is 875?



Aug 4, 2017 1:51 AM

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Awesome colour page.

LOL Zeus eating Thunderclouds & Nami managing to tame him.

King Baum doing anything for his finance.

Pudding cares for Sanji.
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Aug 4, 2017 1:57 AM

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So if im not mistaking there was supposed to be a double issue this week. Where is 875?

No chapter next week.
Aug 4, 2017 2:10 AM

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Man Zeus really likes eating black balls ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I didn't expect Nami to just gain control over him like that. King Baum nobly sacrificed himself to help out the Straw Hats (but I wouldn't be surprised if he's not dead, as I think back to a certain character from the Alabasta arc that should have died but didn't). Damn, Katakuri is just chilling on the ship, that's going to be one hell of a pleasant surprise.

I'm pretty sure the end of the chapter is supposed to be a redeeming moment for Pudding, but just because she wants to help the Straw Hats now doesn't change my mind about her. It'll still be interesting to see how that plays out and how Chiffon might contribute.
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Aug 4, 2017 2:35 AM

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Okay chapter did not like the last page tho.
Aug 4, 2017 2:47 AM

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It feel like it was ages that i haven't read One Piece.Amazing chapter again and so much things happens. Nami was just awesome this chapter even turning Zeus into her servant...
That would be nice if Zeus stay with them and Pudding finally change side.This time i believe her hopefully and Katakuri is going to be the final obstacle for them to flee...
Aug 4, 2017 2:49 AM
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love you purin!!! and this issue should be double chapter for op if I remember correctly
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Aug 4, 2017 2:52 AM

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G_Spark233 said:
link9us said:
So if im not mistaking there was supposed to be a double issue this week. Where is 875?

No chapter next week.


The issue says 36-37. We only read the chapter from issue 36 so far. The next chapter should be in a few hrs i think.



Aug 4, 2017 3:04 AM

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#Believeinpudding came on top??

If Nami gets Zeus as her slave that'd be the most hilarious shit ever lmao. She too OP lol

Katakuri waiting on the Sunny.... Does this man ever stop being based asf????? Give him a raise bitch.

Popularity poll was pretty similar to last one. Expected Brook, Capone Katakuri and Carrot to be higher. Oh well nice seeing doffy up there
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love you purin!!! and this issue should be double chapter for op if I remember correctly

No chapter next week.
Aug 4, 2017 3:13 AM
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Well the Situation seems like there is really no outcoming without fighting and the strawhats would lose a fight.. so the only option here in my opinion is pudding.
Don't you think she might use something like Madara did, tsukuyomi maybe :D I think she will cover all of the BMP in a illusion or something like that and will cut off their memories so they forgot about the invasion of the strawhats at the wedding so the straw hats can escape...
That options seems very plausible since there is no other escape..
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Well the Situation seems like there is really no outcoming without fighting and the strawhats would lose a fight.. so the only option here in my opinion is pudding.
Don't you think she might use something like Madara did, tsukuyomi maybe :D I think she will cover all of the BMP in a illusion or something like that and will cut off their memories so they forgot about the invasion of the strawhats at the wedding so the straw hats can escape...
That options seems very plausible since there is no other escape..

It's going to be difficult to hide the physical evidence such as the destroyed chateau. I'm really not sure what she can replace it with.
Aug 4, 2017 3:34 AM

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I can see Zeus rebellion in the next chapter lol

poor King Baum, I hope Zeus save him.

look what we've got, Pudding completely fall in love with Sanji.
Aug 4, 2017 3:50 AM

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It bothers me that Zeus, who shares a soul with Big Mom, is swayed that easily but I guess plot devices are necessary for them to escape unscathed. I just wish this whole arc wasn't plot devices one after the other. And as we all expected Pudding has done a complete 180 because Sanji called her eye pretty.

So what BS is gonna happen to Katakuri then? Is he gonna slip on the sweet rain, fall into syrup sea and then get attacked by the ants who want to eat his Mochi Mochi Fruit?
Aug 4, 2017 3:54 AM

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What a chapter!!! Nami is awesome, I've never hated her and this is why. Pure awesomeness and she gets Zeus on her side. That's a big power up for her.

I don't even want to predict if Pudding is speaking the truth anymore, but I'll say she's speaking the truth. I guess Sanjis words did touch her.

Let's hope we get a chapter next week, a few people say we won't get one but I haven't seen any special announcement
Aug 4, 2017 3:57 AM

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It bothers me that Zeus, who shares a soul with Big Mom, is swayed that easily but I guess plot devices are necessary for them to escape unscathed. I just wish this whole arc wasn't plot devices one after the other. And as we all expected Pudding has done a complete 180 because Sanji called her eye pretty.

So what BS is gonna happen to Katakuri then? Is he gonna slip on the sweet rain, fall into syrup sea and then get attacked by the ants who want to eat his Mochi Mochi Fruit?


Pudding could still be only pretending to be sad, we know it's in her character to do so.
Aug 4, 2017 3:59 AM

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we have 20th anniversary and always chapters on break nothing good ....
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our crew is on pinch but pudding?
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Aug 4, 2017 4:20 AM

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ayyy no chapter next week
my feels rn
pretty intresting developments tho, kategurui or whatever tf his name is, the mochi guy is waiting for them at the ship, guess even with the ending, we cant leave without a 1 vs 1 shounen style battle eh
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G_Spark233 said:
SaitamaSensei123 said:
Well the Situation seems like there is really no outcoming without fighting and the strawhats would lose a fight.. so the only option here in my opinion is pudding.
Don't you think she might use something like Madara did, tsukuyomi maybe :D I think she will cover all of the BMP in a illusion or something like that and will cut off their memories so they forgot about the invasion of the strawhats at the wedding so the straw hats can escape...
That options seems very plausible since there is no other escape..

It's going to be difficult to hide the physical evidence such as the destroyed chateau. I'm really not sure what she can replace it with.


Replace it with the fact that she has anger issues, and she destroyed everything due to her rage. That could work perhaps. I wonder what the capabilities of Pudding's ability are. She might as well just cut off all of her memories, and she becomes like an animal, or completely empty inside her mind.


Also, it would be somewhat weird if the strawhats got away, and Big Mom was on the island, knowing, that sooooo many things were screwed up for her by the Straw Hats. I can't really imagine how pissed she would be after that. Oda is really good at writing, so we can guess, but probably we'll get surprised.

I find it weird how Katakuri is just chilling there, and noone does anything with the ship. They could move it to some other place, where it would be safer for them. I'm not sure they know about the submarine, so it'd be still a good idea from them. I hope we see something from Karakuri. He's able to see into the future a little, but so far he couldn't do anything at all. I want him to put up a good fight, or actually make it really difficult for the Straw Hats to escape.

By the way, Big Mom looks like she's full of weakpoints. Her rage is a possible weakpoint, also her hommies are not entirely under her control, and even vivre cards are effective against them. They might as well just put a cake into the middle of the ocean while she's in berserk mode, and she drowns because of her devil fruit.
It's going to be quite a new thing if Nami manages to take Zeus with her!
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noo I was hoping they would shield King Baum D;

But LOL Luffy poking Zeus XD
And omg Pudding THANK YOU ahh my heart
Aug 4, 2017 4:27 AM
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Well this was a fine chapter, we see some character development, Luffy really showing some fear though out this chapter, never see the day, Luffy has always too brave or too stupid to be scared, we got that, Nami trying to get Zeus on her side, well played Nami.

And Pudding shows some development, she on our side, at least with us getting away. Still sees has some ways to go, while it is nice she wants to help Sanji, she said she don't care what happens to Mama and the country, it is all well and good with Big Mom, but the country, you do know that includes innocent civilians, some of which were those Pudding watched over, turning her back on her own citizens, still not pure heart, but I guess it is a step in the right direction? Maybe. Than again caring to innocent civilians is not a thing anymore if you go by Goku's behavior in the latest arc of Dragon Ball Super.

Anyway we are not going to defeat Big Mom, it is a question of escape.
Aug 4, 2017 4:31 AM

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So Pudding turning good now. LOL! Nami.
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Aug 4, 2017 5:33 AM

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4/5

"Her eyes tell the truth!" Yeah Yeah I don't believe her anymore..


Katakuri is scary :O
Aug 4, 2017 5:55 AM

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I don't even think Oda knows whether Pudding is good or bad anymore lol. Katakuri has them checked so even if they somehow manage to escape Big Mom, he's still there. Ouch.
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MoonStar9 said:
It bothers me that Zeus, who shares a soul with Big Mom, is swayed that easily but I guess plot devices are necessary for them to escape unscathed. I just wish this whole arc wasn't plot devices one after the other. And as we all expected Pudding has done a complete 180 because Sanji called her eye pretty.

So what BS is gonna happen to Katakuri then? Is he gonna slip on the sweet rain, fall into syrup sea and then get attacked by the ants who want to eat his Mochi Mochi Fruit?


Zeus being swayed sort of actually fits. What drives Big Mom more than anything? Delicious food. Makes sense that Zeus is swayed by the most delicious things he's ever eaten.
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MoonStar9 said:
It bothers me that Zeus, who shares a soul with Big Mom, is swayed that easily but I guess plot devices are necessary for them to escape unscathed. I just wish this whole arc wasn't plot devices one after the other. And as we all expected Pudding has done a complete 180 because Sanji called her eye pretty.

So what BS is gonna happen to Katakuri then? Is he gonna slip on the sweet rain, fall into syrup sea and then get attacked by the ants who want to eat his Mochi Mochi Fruit?


I was expecting a power-up for Nami but controlling Zeus like this, the actual soul of BM was quite disappointing.
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Hmmm, i don´t trust Charlotte Pudding.
Nothing in this world lasts forever, and it´s time you accept that.
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MoonStar9 said:
It bothers me that Zeus, who shares a soul with Big Mom, is swayed that easily but I guess plot devices are necessary for them to escape unscathed. I just wish this whole arc wasn't plot devices one after the other. And as we all expected Pudding has done a complete 180 because Sanji called her eye pretty.

So what BS is gonna happen to Katakuri then? Is he gonna slip on the sweet rain, fall into syrup sea and then get attacked by the ants who want to eat his Mochi Mochi Fruit?


Zeus being swayed sort of actually fits. What drives Big Mom more than anything? Delicious food. Makes sense that Zeus is swayed by the most delicious things he's ever eaten.


Swayed from his own soul? Does that make sense? This whole arc has made Big Mom disappointing in all but physical feats.
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Good chapter. Everything was really entertaining. Convenience was all over the place but once you´ve accepted it it´s fine and this particular instances weren´t overbearing.

The development of Pudding is terrible, still 4/5.

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Pudding could still be only pretending to be sad, we know it's in her character to do so.


Keep tying to convince yourself that Oda never writes horseshit while reality keeps punching you in the face.
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Keep tying to convince yourself that Oda never writes horseshit when reality keeps punching you in the face.


When did I say that Oda never makes mistakes? I just made a thread about a big error Oda may have made with Katakuri just recently.

It's a fact shown in the story that Pudding can pretend to be sad when she isn't, it's 50/50 on whether she's sincere or not.
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MoonStar9 said:
It bothers me that Zeus, who shares a soul with Big Mom, is swayed that easily but I guess plot devices are necessary for them to escape unscathed. I just wish this whole arc wasn't plot devices one after the other. And as we all expected Pudding has done a complete 180 because Sanji called her eye pretty.

So what BS is gonna happen to Katakuri then? Is he gonna slip on the sweet rain, fall into syrup sea and then get attacked by the ants who want to eat his Mochi Mochi Fruit?



Souls have their own will ,they follow others because they are scare of them.
I think since big mom like to eat much.zeus,a part of her soul ,also may like to eat too.But I think every homies have their personality of their own .They might follow mama but they are not fully devoted to her.
Oda never said anything about homies will be always loyal to big mom ,so the homies can betray them if they have the will to do so.

Plot devise ? Dude there is no anime/manga without plot devise lol
Aug 4, 2017 7:52 AM

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so is pudding good or bad... zzzz...
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I support this ship :v

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It's a fact shown in the story that Pudding can pretend to be sad when she isn't, it's 50/50 on whether she's sincere or not.


Who would write that? Again who to trick but the audience?
Chiffon?

Pudding was implied to have had a good relationship with Lola. Hence the reason most people assumed that she was genuine when she talked about marrying Sanji. Then Oda pulls a stupid as shit nonsensical 180 on her.
Turns out she was evil all along!
Then he uses a gag. A fucking joke to turn her 180° around again and people still keep insisting: "That no! This SNL routine may be "Goda" tricking us again."

Now he confirms, that he´s just bullshitting yet again. Taking the easy way out of a predicament, he wrote his characters into and you still sit here trying to convince people, how "everything goes according to keikaku".

So your response is to, again overthink the situation. Give Oda yet again the benefit of the doubt. Although he´s been terribly predictable, throghout all the new world arcs. Except Zou or when he outright cheats and unfolds the plot without foreshadowing anything. Basicly denying the audience the chance to predict the twist. But you say no to this evidence. You think he´s going to pull through. Pull yet another 180 and reveal Pudding´s true colors, which were the initial plottwist to begin with.

Stop right there. As bad as the convenient"Dragon Ball characterization" is. Because that´s not something Shounen inherently do, that´s something Dragon Ball popularized for the medium, that Oda copies. It´s far superior to the idea of having a character change his motivations in the span of 20 chapters 3 times into the opposite of what it was last. That being from the audience´s POV.
It´s outright terrible writing. You don´t do that as an author except you´re Hiro Mashima, and while Pudding still not being convinced by Sanji makes sense from a realistic POV, this is simply not the way Oda has written any character before. If anything is clear about this Manga it´s that Oda is afraid of innovation.
That´s why he recycles arcs. That´s why his story is formulaic. That´s why it´s filled with rituals his characters repeadiately go through, like the bankets.

There is no 50/50 chance. A 50% chance means that the variables are equal in quality and quantity and they´re just not. There is a 2% chance of Pudding still being evil which is a garbage plottwist to begin with. Her being good now is bad enough development as it is. She doesn´t deserve Lanji.
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It's so cool Nami got the first good hit on a yonko
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Oh my!! Is that really happening? Not acting skills again? That Pudding, jeez `L_`

Woah, Nami so cool in this chapter! Nice body assist!
Aug 4, 2017 9:59 AM
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Eat shit and die Pudding.

Greatest thing about this chapter was that 2-page spread. Marcoooooo!
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I think Pudding is insane, she might have a split personality or something.
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Damn it traitor Zeus, mama should have scrapped him immediately when he let her fall.
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I think Pudding is on the Straw Hats side now. We get a frame of her looking out in the rain, and a peak of her past, and what not. Not to mention she got shocked for the entirety of the wedding so it's doin something.
Is this where you live?

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I think Pudding is insane, she might have a split personality or something.

It´s not a splitt personality. It´s just lazy writing.
It´s not uncommon for Oda to write like that.

She was an enemy genuinely wanted to kill Sanji, but because he´s the first one to acknowledge her as beautyful and not call her a Monster she loves him now.It´s Shounen Bullshit 101. She convinced herself that she´s a monster, but now that she found that single person in her universe who told her the opposite her wolrdview was shook.

Jesus people, it´s not like it´s new territory for Oda or for post Dragon Ball Shounen in general.
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