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May 29, 2016 6:11 PM

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poor koichi, 99 problems......and a bitch is every single one of them.

is nobody watching JoJo? i would think the jojo subforum would be populated. guess the series is that niche? i thought jojo was pretty up there in popularity
MaloghurstMay 29, 2016 6:16 PM
May 30, 2016 11:28 AM
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After seing people's reactions to Yukako, I think the Cinderella arc is going to be a controversial one.
May 30, 2016 12:07 PM

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Tarkus_ said:
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So, what about if Echoes write "Death" somewhere and someone touch it ?


He can only use onomatopoeias like Zap, Boom or Sizzle. Death is not an onomatopoeia.

But "I hate you" and "Believe in me" are?



May 30, 2016 12:26 PM
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Nickienator said:
Tarkus_ said:


He can only use onomatopoeias like Zap, Boom or Sizzle. Death is not an onomatopoeia.

But "I hate you" and "Believe in me" are?



Echoes ACT1 can write an onomatopoeia or a phrase on anything, from human flesh to the ground, and have that sound repeat itself over and over with increasing volume.
Echoes ACT2 has a different power involving sounds. When the onomatopoeia is written on an object now, touching it activates the effect of the sound. ACT2 can only use onomatopoeias.
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May 30, 2016 1:26 PM

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Ugh, first time I hated an episode of JoJo.

Watching Koichi just whine and take that abuse for episode and a half was so cringe worthy. Why did it take him so long to try to fight back?

Also, that bitch got off way too easy at the end for the shit she pulled. She practically tortured him and humiliated him. I felt like what she did to him by making him piss in his pants makes him look way worse than how he made her look at the end.

Hobgoblin2099 said:

My favorite thing about the Yukako chapters is that Yukako ultimately more or less gets what she wants, aside from Koichi falling in love with her. She wants Koichi to improve because she sees his potential and he ends up with a new Stand power. She sees that Koichi isn't testing well and ends up helping him.


That's exactly what pissed me off so much, I felt like she's a Karma Houdini and Koichi is still terrified of her.

Just curious, why do some many people love Yukaku, in terms of behavior she was even crazier than many of the previous villains. I guess it's because she's a girl, plain and simple. That's what annoys me the most - a woman can do anything to a man and act in any way she likes and guys will still love her. Come on, she is not even that hot, just batshit insane.

Anyway, I'm probably overreacting but I would expect shit like that from silly harem shows, not from JoJo, one of the few truly manly shows left around, that's why I am so disappointed.

Peace to everyone :)
May 30, 2016 1:45 PM

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Maloghurst said:
poor koichi, 99 problems......and a bitch is every single one of them.

is nobody watching JoJo? i would think the jojo subforum would be populated. guess the series is that niche? i thought jojo was pretty up there in popularity
Jojo never had a very active anime subforum, plus we're already at Part 4, so less people watching
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
May 30, 2016 2:49 PM

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Nidhoeggr said:
Echoes Act II, the end of the Yukako arc, get a feeling so complicated; everything was paced as expected. I also love how Koichi's hair changes along with his Stand - whose transformation reminds me a bit of Cell. David Pro is doing a good job with this particular aspect.

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May 30, 2016 4:49 PM

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Maloghurst said:
poor koichi, 99 problems......and a bitch is every single one of them.

is nobody watching JoJo? i would think the jojo subforum would be populated. guess the series is that niche? i thought jojo was pretty up there in popularity


No, Jojo's is really popular.

JJBA is being discussed plenty in other parts of the Internet.

May 31, 2016 1:54 PM
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The episodes including the first part, reminds me of the tsundere archetype. Instead of "tsundere" it should be renamed to the "Yukako" archetype.
May 31, 2016 9:39 PM

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I don't believe that exam score. He didn't learn more than a few random things.
Good episode though
Jun 1, 2016 3:36 AM

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Celestialshard said:
The episodes including the first part, reminds me of the tsundere archetype. Instead of "tsundere" it should be renamed to the "Yukako" archetype.
uuuh, it's yandere, not tsundere.
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Jun 1, 2016 11:25 PM

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Darklord_bg said:
Ugh, first time I hated an episode of JoJo.

Watching Koichi just whine and take that abuse for episode and a half was so cringe worthy. Why did it take him so long to try to fight back?

Also, that bitch got off way too easy at the end for the shit she pulled. She practically tortured him and humiliated him. I felt like what she did to him by making him piss in his pants makes him look way worse than how he made her look at the end.

Hobgoblin2099 said:

My favorite thing about the Yukako chapters is that Yukako ultimately more or less gets what she wants, aside from Koichi falling in love with her. She wants Koichi to improve because she sees his potential and he ends up with a new Stand power. She sees that Koichi isn't testing well and ends up helping him.


That's exactly what pissed me off so much, I felt like she's a Karma Houdini and Koichi is still terrified of her.

Just curious, why do some many people love Yukaku, in terms of behavior she was even crazier than many of the previous villains. I guess it's because she's a girl, plain and simple. That's what annoys me the most - a woman can do anything to a man and act in any way she likes and guys will still love her. Come on, she is not even that hot, just batshit insane.

Anyway, I'm probably overreacting but I would expect shit like that from silly harem shows, not from JoJo, one of the few truly manly shows left around, that's why I am so disappointed.

Peace to everyone :)


When Koichi did fight back, his best option of defense was sticking an "I hate you" sound effect to Yukako which she immediately undid. His Stand was too weak at the time, and he had no idea where he was. Trying to fight against Yukako when she can control his body at will and he is unsure of his surroundings would have gotten him captured or killed, which is why he tried reasoning with her first.

Yukako might have been more obsessive than some of the previous villains, yes, but are her actions worse? Prior to "Aaahhh, I'll kill you for not loving me", the worst thing she does is set a girl's hair on fire.

Angelo raped and killed people, Tamami was going to possibly force Koichi's mother to commit suicide and his sister to sleep with him, Hazamada cut out someone's eye for not liking the same anime as him, Keicho killed random people with the Bow and Arrow, etc.

Yukako's definitely not a saint, but it's not like precedent hasn't been set.
Jun 2, 2016 12:13 AM

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Hobgoblin2099 said:

Yukako might have been more obsessive than some of the previous villains, yes, but are her actions worse? Prior to "Aaahhh, I'll kill you for not loving me", the worst thing she does is set a girl's hair on fire.


LOL, setting a girl's head on fire was pretty bad, she would have died if not for Okuyasu's interference.

Also, locking Koichi in a house somewhere God knows where and basically torturing him, having him eat weird stuff and pissing in his pants etc. before as you mentioned trying to kill him was definitely on the level of the stuff previous villains did...
Jun 2, 2016 7:57 AM

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Episode was pretty entertaining, but I just can't stand Kouichi's character. He's just completely bland to me.
Jun 2, 2016 11:46 AM

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Darklord_bg said:
Hobgoblin2099 said:

Yukako might have been more obsessive than some of the previous villains, yes, but are her actions worse? Prior to "Aaahhh, I'll kill you for not loving me", the worst thing she does is set a girl's hair on fire.


LOL, setting a girl's head on fire was pretty bad, she would have died if not for Okuyasu's interference.

Also, locking Koichi in a house somewhere God knows where and basically torturing him, having him eat weird stuff and pissing in his pants etc. before as you mentioned trying to kill him was definitely on the level of the stuff previous villains did...


That was my point, though? All of the villains up to this point have tried to murder people or done awful things. Even Okuyasu was going to let Koichi die in his introduction.

I was pointing out how Yukako didn't exactly do anything that marks her as worse than any of the previous Stand Users.
Jun 2, 2016 7:58 PM

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RediceRyan said:
I don't believe that exam score. He didn't learn more than a few random things.
Good episode though


He became more confident and the whole situation served as a motivation for him to study more.

Jun 5, 2016 4:10 PM

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Lol full marks because of his kidnapping !!
Jun 6, 2016 1:12 AM

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Hobgoblin2099 said:
Darklord_bg said:


LOL, setting a girl's head on fire was pretty bad, she would have died if not for Okuyasu's interference.

Also, locking Koichi in a house somewhere God knows where and basically torturing him, having him eat weird stuff and pissing in his pants etc. before as you mentioned trying to kill him was definitely on the level of the stuff previous villains did...


That was my point, though? All of the villains up to this point have tried to murder people or done awful things. Even Okuyasu was going to let Koichi die in his introduction.

I was pointing out how Yukako didn't exactly do anything that marks her as worse than any of the previous Stand Users.


Yes, and my point was even if she wasn't worse than previous villains, the wasn't better either.

And my problem is for doing the same thing as other villains she gets much less retribution both by the show itself and especially by the fans, who even love her more for being crazy.
Jun 8, 2016 5:52 PM

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I'm really liking koichi as a character. it feels like the idea they had when writing him is make you think he is that archetype of the weaker character that is always needing the other stronger characters save him. just to instead make him quite capable of holding his own.

And now Koichi has become a miniature Guile while his stand is a miniature Cell.
Jun 9, 2016 3:26 PM

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Koichi mans up finally and imperfect cell evolves into perfect cell :)

Koichi acing the test XD
"I get a feeling so complicated".
Jun 12, 2016 9:21 AM

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Koichi did a good job standing up for himself and fighting. The trick with the phone buttons was neat too.
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Jun 15, 2016 9:06 AM

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Cell moulted ! It was pretty expected since its hatch but it's funny and I loved it (though the form itself isn't really pretty). How many forms are there left?

And the biggest question: how many haircuts will Koichi get?

5/5
Jun 20, 2016 9:10 AM

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Koichi can't be the son of Polnareff, can he?
Sep 30, 2016 10:14 AM

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Nidhoeggr said:
I also love how Koichi's hair changes along with his Stand - whose transformation reminds me a bit of Cell.

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Love how badass Koichi became with Echoes Act 2 (the transformation totally reminded me of Cell)


Koichi and his stand are pretty obviously a nod to Dragon Ball. It was even more obvious in the manga.
That's why Echoes evolves and Koichi's hair change.
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Nickienator said:
But "I hate you" and "Believe in me" are?


That was Act 1, who produces sounds. Echoes Act 2 morphs onomatopoeias into actual effects, hence, it can only use sound effects. It's a completely different power.
Sep 30, 2016 10:40 AM

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I like how you deleted that part of the post and then repeat it for some reason.


Nov 5, 2016 1:36 AM

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What an intense fight with some smart uses of stand abilities and an unexpectedly interesting conclusion! Koichi was badass in this ep with his continuous growth and Echoes evolving to Act 2. Yukako is a crazy bitch, but she’s right about Koichi’s huge potential.

I’m actually amazed that Koichi solved the problem all by himself considering that his stand is not such a powerful one. That’s why we love JOJO. I don’t even remember how many times I hoped that someone would show up and help when our MCs were in shit situations during Part 3. The same happened here. But no, everyone is pretty much on his own with his wit.

Lol they just keep creating the landmarks for the town. 6/5
Nov 13, 2016 9:16 PM

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Mini-Polnareff arrives.

Kek, awesome episode.
Nov 15, 2016 2:25 PM

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love even grow stronger , we need more Jotaru

Dec 2, 2016 5:55 PM

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Yukako thinks she and Kochi are unique with something in common. Little does she know that she and Josuke have something in common that pales in comparison to having a stand; feeling strongly about their own hair.

His stand evolved?

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Dec 16, 2016 12:31 AM
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Lol @ the people whole told me Koichi isn't like Polnareff and then he cuts his hair like his this episode.

Note: I'm not talking about personality either. I'm talking about him always ending up in disastrous situations, having just as much or even more screen time than the main character, etc.


LOL yeah you called it
Dec 24, 2016 8:32 AM

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What an insane episode! Really crazy b*tch to be honest :'D but damn impressive as well. Some lovely character development if you ask me!
Jan 30, 2017 8:34 PM

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Yandere people are scary

Hairstyle lol
Everyone in this show just became Polnareff somehow
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Feb 1, 2017 5:38 AM

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Echoes Act 2 is an awesome upgrade!
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Feb 7, 2017 2:34 AM

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I got genuinely scared at Yukako at one point. She's just too crazy. But anyways, good job Koichi.
Apr 28, 2017 5:19 AM

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Dam, the mangaka must really like the look of flat tops.
May 13, 2017 10:15 AM
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The Koichi loves story end, and end well!!! Lucky Koichi? xD
The best of thie episode was the Koichi Stand Evolution, great!!!!
Jun 10, 2017 11:37 AM

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Yukako's super freaky especially when she snapped and tried to kill Koichi. She's nuts and that battle was so darn tense.

I'm impressed on his use of Echo and its evolution. Seeing it be used left me in awe. And the flat-top too of course~

Her hair turned white but at least she's stabilized after that surprise save from Koichi. I expected a more brutal fate but I'm glad that wasn't the case. He got full marks xD The kidnapping wasn't all bad after all lol








Aug 22, 2017 11:53 PM

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Amazing episode! This is probably Mamiko's most insane voice ever! I love her laugh when Yukako was strangling Koichi.

If there's one thing David Productions did right is making the new cast for the NPCs. Just wish they keep the same voices from All Star Battle and now Eyes of Heaven.

Jolyne needs to be Miyuki Sawashiro no matter what.
Aug 27, 2017 6:30 AM

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Koichi's hair sucks now :(
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Sep 22, 2017 7:14 AM

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I'll be honest, Koichi's Echoes is starting to make me think of Cell now. Great episode, i especially enjoyed how Kocihi defeated Stalker-chan on his own, and gained a stronger Stand because of it.
Dec 26, 2017 1:29 AM

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Geez, she's so annoying. Glad it's over.

"Please stop talking about math when I'm eating."
Oct 20, 2018 10:28 PM

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Damn, once Koichi started fighting back that was some of my favorite parts so far in the show. It was just so intense and awesome!

But that haircut lol. Mini Polnareff!
Nov 14, 2018 9:02 AM

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Echoes act 2 looks awesome. Koichi looks like Polnareff with this haircut LOL. Damn Mamiko Noto did an amazing job voicing Yukako
Dec 18, 2018 7:41 AM

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well still want the couple to be together..see he got 100 marks
Apr 4, 2019 6:51 PM

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god i really dislike Koichi as a character, i can't quite expain it but i just can't stand seeing him. his new haircut is so ugly too
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Apr 27, 2019 5:57 PM

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That Yukako has indeed mental problems. xD

New Reverb looks cute! It was funny to see how he made all those effects, especially with that "Boingy-Boing" stone.

If I were Koichi, I would have no problems in getting access to the toilet, by the way. At least Yukako's drill gave effects and Koichi got such brilliant score from his test.
May 10, 2019 8:05 PM
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Hahaha she's the supreme Yandere, truly the biggest one. Well, Koichi sure has gotten powerful, nice powerup! It's hilarious how Koichi went all out Polnareff-hairstyle this episode though. Good episode.
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lol at the question for the lock.
Koichi didnt make it. lol
Chair... but electric.
lol Koichi got no coins.
I hate you.
What happened to Echoes?
Echoes evolved.
Act 2.
Polnakoichi.
White hair.
Koichi saved her.
She likes Koichi even more now.
A new landmark.
Koichi passed his test.
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Jul 28, 2019 4:03 AM

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Funny how she actually helped Koichi grow. His stand has powered up and he scored 100 on an English exam.

Seems like all you need to bring out the best of you is a psychotic Yandere waifu.
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