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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Akari is cute. The most interesting part I thought about the episode is that story about the elephant and how it relates to family. The picnic looked like fun. This episode felt kinda natural, not really feeling much for the characters still but it's cute. Glad to see friends helping Akira~  |
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| Another problem solved by Haruta. Meh episode overall as nothing felt as if it had any tension. I guess Akari doesn't hate her grandfather anymore. 2/5 |
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| Aww, a girl that seems like have feeling towards Haruta. I just realized it, but unlike the other episode Maren is perfectly blend in the gang. So Akari was "hit the bullseye" when she mention about the "Double Date". |
MasceraFeb 3, 2016 11:02 AM
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| Trombone girl was quite the cutie. Wasn't expecting a Vietnam story of all things from that...sad. :( |
| Didn't expect Orange Agent to be mentioned in anime, i have seen pictures of people affected by it they survived but the results weren't nice. The Vietnam war was very brutal but what also effected soldiers a great deal was the reaction they got on return, many Americans where against the war and many people who protested against it had a feeling the government wasn't listening to them. At some point they started protests against the soldiers most of whom where conscripts that where send against there will. So many soldiers that returned had a very bad welcome at the airport which caused many psychological problems and to make things worse veterans of the Vietnam war received bad treatment for years. The episode was pretty symbolic. |
| And again almighty Haruta knows everything. And the most frustrating are scenes where he acts like everything what he knows is normal and Chika is just too stupid to understand /know something (name of painter, novelist, whatever). I hate him more and more. Even his VA is doing everything to raise hate towards him :D like that homo vampire from Owari no Seraph (Mika?). |
rsc-plFeb 3, 2016 11:17 AM
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| tbh, it actually a good and interesting episode imo. that elephant story was good too :) another character in the next episode :D Edit: LOL. everybody dislike haruta XD. well, same for me too though...he always the one who solved the mystery.... |
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| Adorable episode, i think i'm the only person that like Haruta?, he isn't that bad. And a New Character!, cute so far. |
| The story was good but Sensei and Haruta knew too much it was annoying. |
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| "War is ruthless, cruel and stupid." |
| This was interesting I guess. Not Haruta figuring it out as always, but the old guy's story was fucked up. |
| Ah, the Vietnam War. Brings back memories of history classes.... That was a pretty painful and sad story, and I think that elephant story blend in pretty decently with Orange Agent. Not bad. Poor grandfather ): Akari was pretty adorable though. |
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| Saw Vietnam coming as soon as paintings with elephant has been shown. Well, it's the best episode storywise, but animation is becoming worse and worse. Still enjoyed it, I guess. |
| I didn't expect that twist where it turns out he went to the war, other than that this episode was okay overall. |
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| Narushima look very nice in that hairstyle |
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| Chika makes a good lesbian by the way she approaches,like,almost every girl so far. I think her crush on the sensei is just an ass-pull so Haruta can have a rival or whatever. Meh. The show is still boring with or without their love interests. rsc-pl said: I hate him more and more. Even his VA is doing everything to raise hate towards him :D like that homo vampire from Owari no Seraph (Mika?). They do sound alike,even if it's not the same VA. What does he even do to raise hate anyway? That's just his normal voice |
| Well, this episode got a point from me because I learned something (which I immediately did some quick research to confirm and get details) - I hadn't known that Non-citizens were subject to the draft. |
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| Decent episode, not as interesting as the last episode but still enjoyable. One thing that really puzzles me is why people don't like Haruta. I mean, I guess it is pretty weird that he could always solve the mysterious almost immediately, but there are a lot of other genius characters similar to him and I don't see them getting nearly as much hate. |
  "As promised, all that you seek, all that we desire, is prepared up there. On top of the Tower." |
| Okay episode; didn't really do much interest with the characters. The Vietnam War being brought up was pretty conflicting. |
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| Maren x Nageshima Haruta x Chika. I ship them. The new gurl nailed it. Its nice to know Chika knows how to cook. That 1966 vietnam war is deep. |
MagitoFeb 3, 2016 9:15 PM
| man starting to hate Haru even more ,guy doesn't know when to let off was only because of the grandmother he didn't say anything still i only caught on to the meaning of all this only because of young black jack had this still fresh in my mind last season |
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| I felt like the jungle and PTSD was a dead give away that it was Nam. I thought the bit with Agent Orange and the likes was clever though. |
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| Knew the reveal would be anticlimactic. Like wtf why the teacher getting so serious and making it seem like some dire crime was committed therefore his precious students shouldn't look into it? Pls. Keeping it a secret from the granddaughter too was stupid. Like she should go on believing such a lie and thinking her granddad is scum who betrayed his family? |
| I loved the references to Chicago. Such a great...and at times awful city. Like the story, its nice and sweet I don't really feel any connection to the characters 3.5/5 |
| “Don't think about what you need to do. Just follow your desires.” - Aoi Ryuuhei (Baby Steps) |
| This series deals with a lot of deep personal issues and I must say that they handle them very well Vietnam was a fucked up war in just about every way so I can understand why the grandfather is in the state he is >.< It was pretty interesting to see how chill everyone was about being looked at as romantic couples....Nageshima looked cute af in this episode too |
TokoyaFeb 3, 2016 8:04 PM
| Really great episode.... the low score for this really baffles me. |
SakurasouBusters said: Really great episode.... the low score for this really baffles me. Don't mind it. The score system in MAL is crap. |
| Throughly enjoyed this particular episode. The way they illustrated the plot was great and the idea with the agent colors and war was unexpected but clever. Everyone hates Haruta but I find him pretty cute. |
| There is only one passion; the passion for happiness. - Denis Diderot |
| Cheap... the series tries to be deep, but I don't think the PTSD symptoms were very accurate (either the animator's or writer's lack of knowledge), and it was really random. The global-esque extent of the plot surprises me. Most Japanese avoid discussion of politics, wars, etc. so Haruta and sensei's knowledge is surprising without research. Saying that, the breadth of knowledge is ridiculous. Haruta's on-the-spot recall of information is unreal. How many people know pointillism and Seurat off the top of their head (plus many other subjects)? I don't even know how they drew the conclusion of the Vietnamese War, wtf? At this point I might prefer a more daily-like/human drama approach rather than these mysteries, because I enjoy the tidbits of character interaction more. |
| Uh, okay episode I guess. I would rather see more of them playing instruments and having picnics than solving mysteries... I don't have any dislike for Haruta even though he's always solving things out of nowhere. I like all of the main cast. However I don't like the new girl because she hit her elderly, dying grandfather. It may be just a pillow but it's just not right. Didn't get any feels for this episode and it was lame that Kusakabe stopped them so seriously. They are high school students, come on... Rather, isn't it good for them to learn about such things? I actually didn't know much about the Vietnam War so it was kind of interesting. I looked up stuff about it after. |
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Mirorin said: The global-esque extent of the plot surprises me. Most Japanese avoid discussion of politics, wars, etc. so Haruta and sensei's knowledge is surprising without research. Saying that, the breadth of knowledge is ridiculous. Haruta's on-the-spot recall of information is unreal. How many people know pointillism and Seurat off the top of their head (plus many other subjects)? I don't even know how they drew the conclusion of the Vietnamese War, wtf? I agree with Haruta's vast knowledge, but he did mention research, so I'm 100% sure that him concluding the grandfather went to Vietnam War was just due to quick internet search. The hints were these: -1966-1976 -San Francisco, Chicago -Student riots (suggested by Maren, although he meant the Civil Rights Movement) -elephant sleeping in the wild (the wild part mentioned by Chika) -colors of the sky It does still seem sort of a stretch to connect these dots, but I don't think it's far-fetched that Haruta was able to arrive at the correct conclusion. The most important hint was that the elephant in the paintings was not in a zoo. There are no wild elephants in the US, therefore the grandfather must've been somewhere else. Another quick search about riots in the US in that time frame would suggest Civil Rights Movement or opposition against Vietnam War (note SF). Grandfather came back in 1976, a year after the end of the Vietnam War. This must've came up in Haruta's research but he didn't think about it until Chika mentioned the background in the paintings looking like the jungle. The colors of the sky probably just solidified the conclusion that indeed the grandfather was drafted into the war. I'm more surprised that no one is complaining how Kusakabe was able to arrive at the conclusion so quickly without research and other hints, like the riots. Haruta said he researched into the puzzle, so I have no doubts he didn't actually know much about the exact dates or things involved in the Vietnam War, but again, he had a hint from Maren and Chika, and also realized that somehow just by looking at the paintings, Kusakabe was able to understand what happened to the grandfather. Yes Haruta still has an almost unbelievable amount of knowledge, but none of that really helped him in this case (the painting knowledge), he only used the hints and his research to answer the puzzle. komasan said: Uh, okay episode I guess. I would rather see more of them playing instruments and having picnics than solving mysteries... I don't have any dislike for Haruta even though he's always solving things out of nowhere. I like all of the main cast. However I don't like the new girl because she hit her elderly, dying grandfather. It may be just a pillow but it's just not right. Yeah same, I'd like to see more band stuff, or at least half-half instead of most of the focus on the mysteries. I still like the overall slice of life tone the anime has though, and the mysteries don't feel so dramatic. And I completely agree with the pillow hitting part. I was pretty shocked to see that, he's not in the best shape to get hit, if she didn't notice... |
| ^ Yeah, but I meant the problem is that they don't show him doing the research or forming his conclusion, it's just given to the viewer at the end with "hints" thrown across the episode. The viewer doesn't share the characters' discovery or knowledge. The Vietnamese War could be concludable I suppose, but Orange Agent vs. colors of sky have so little connection it's almost like guesswork. Also, lol. |
MirorinFeb 4, 2016 11:27 AM
| I was kinda shocked it went the dark path this ep and touched Vietnam war, PTSD, and the racial riots of LA and SF. It was kind of nice. HOWEVER, the pacing was way off. It covered too much and seemed to run out of time in the end and just left it like that. We didn't get to see what happens next after investing so much time into the story. It was a bad way to introduce a future member of the group. They need to address it in another ep or it would be a waste. Also, her mention of the four being couples makes me think something going to happen. I mean, she did say in EP 1 that she got him back. Me tinks he may turn from the cannoli to the pie..If you know what I mean. |
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Mirorin said: ^ Yeah, but I meant the problem is that they don't show him doing the research or forming his conclusion, it's just given to the viewer at the end with "hints" thrown across the episode. The viewer doesn't share the characters' discovery or knowledge. The Vietnamese War could be concludable I suppose, but Orange Agent vs. colors of sky seems like guesswork, almost. Also, lol. Omg that picture, why you ruin the painting for me!?!? Ah I see, sorry I misunderstood. Well I think showing Haruta doing research on the computer would be boring but I understand your complaint about the viewer not sharing the character's knowledge. I typically don't like that either in anything that is tagged with "mystery," but at least there are some hints thrown around that I can still see how those hints helped Haruta (and not the viewer). |
| I wonder if Akari's Grandpa saw The Beatles at Candlestick Park? |
FluxasionFeb 4, 2016 5:21 AM
| Everything was nice and cute but this anime needs more music... |
| Noir… It is the name of an ancient fate. Two sisters who watch anime. The peace of the newly born, their black hands protect. |
| This episode was pretty intriguing. It was interesting to learn how Akari's grandfather got caught up with the uprising in 1966 and then later went to Vietnam in the war until 1976. I do lack a lot of knowledge about the Vietnam war as a whole, so I should look it up in detail later. Akari's thoughts about Haruta and co being on a double date at the zoo was funny though. =D Although the mystery and the drama is interesting, the lack of music is worrying me. It feels like this show wants to focus on the music, but also wants to be very similar to Sakurako's Investigation, and I do prefer Sakurako over Haruta by a long shot. Still, at least I'm liking the art style more and more. Charlotte looked and was animated better, but this show's still very good in that section. =D |
| I do like that they're bringing up political issues and taboo subjects... I don't think I've ever seen an anime where they talked about things such as Chinese Americans, Vietnam war, PTSD etc However I still wish it could have been just a little, little bit less boring |
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| Weakest episode so far, but I wouldn't say it was bad. |
| Akari really hit the bulls' eye with the double date ships. >.< I didn't expect they would end it kind of abruptly without showing us the scene where Akari takes off the chains from her Grandpa... but they did solve the mystery. Looks like we will see her and other first years next episodes. |
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| I think it will keep going like this and nothing big will happen in this anime... I liked Akari, looking forward to see her adventures as a member. |
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| Since the first episode the next four have been so good and very interesting! I'm enjoying very much this anime! ^.^ |
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| akari's grandfather perving on chika's legs was annoying ugh. other than that I didn't really think that the explanation would go this way. |
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