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| Magic Knight Rayearth —> Madoka Magica This is by far the most obvious case I’ve encountered. While the settings are very different superficially, the basic idea of tricking girls into becoming mahou shoujo is the same, and multiple specific story developments are literally copied from the former and pasted into the latter. This makes all of the claims that Madoka is “super original” and a “deconstruction” particularly grating since on top of not being true in general, it is quite blatantly the opposite— highly derivative— once you’re aware of Rayearth. Edit: @Fario-P and @GlennMagusHarvey might find this to be of note. |
TripleSRankMay 26, 2020 5:50 PM
Ehhhh...having seen both shows and long time magical girl fan...I'm not seeing the comparisons all that much, actually. The girls weren't really "tricked" into saving Cephiro; they just didn't know that was part of the request. QB and Mokona do look alike but that's about it. While both shows have a dark and tragic twist, Madoka's is a lot more grim with wanting the destruction of ALL of its characters instead of just one. I feel like Madoka was trying to capture the audience who liked Nanoha and make it more tragic. And they definitely lifted Madoka's dress from Sakura....just look at that puffy frilly pink thing. But yes, "dark magical girl shows" have been around FAR longer than Madoka...so it also grates on me when people praise it so much. What's even more obvious to me is Madoka Magica----> Magical Girl Raising Project. |
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Chiibi said: Ehhhh...having seen both shows and long time magical girl fan...I'm not seeing the comparisons all that much, actually. The girls weren't really "tricked" into saving Cephiro; they just didn't know that was part of the request. QB and Mokona do look alike but that's about it. While both shows have a dark and tragic twist, Madoka's is a lot more grim with wanting the destruction of ALL of its characters instead of just one. I feel like Madoka was trying to capture the audience who liked Nanoha and make it more tragic. And they definitely lifted Madoka's dress from Sakura....just look at that puffy frilly pink thing. But yes, "dark magical girl shows" have been around FAR longer than Madoka...so it also grates on me when people praise it so much. What's even more obvious to me is Madoka Magica----> Magical Girl Raising Project. Have you seen Magic Knight Rayearth 2? Because if you haven’t, that might be why you aren’t seeing the heavy similarities. I mean, they both have the whole perma-killing an important character early on thing early on, but the more important over-arching issue with both worlds is essentially identical, right down to the way both main characters abuse the wishing powers in their respective world to fix said world because their world is doomed to die. I don’t believe Madoka Magica would be exist as it currently does without Rayearth. The core story beats are far too identical. Edit: @GlennMagusHarvey |
TripleSRankMay 26, 2020 7:12 PM
| @TripleSRank Oh! Actually I haven't. xD I guess I should....someday haha. I also think it wouldn't exist without Card Captor Sakura too. BOW TO CLAMP THEN, MADOKAAAAAAAAAA >:D |
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Chiibi said: @TripleSRank Oh! Actually I haven't. xD I guess I should....someday haha. I also think it wouldn't exist without Card Captor Sakura too. BOW TO CLAMP THEN, MADOKAAAAAAAAAA >:D Hahaha, good on you for not quoting my post then. I wouldn’t want to spoil anything, but I’m really not exaggerating. You should! It’s still a bit campy, but season 2 was very good overall. Maybe for the cutesy character designs, but I think people overestimate how much CCS is like “other mahou shoujo” too. There are no sentai elements; the stakes are relatively low; and the show outright makes fun of a couple mahou shoujo tropes (like how Tomoyo makes Sakura dress up in fantastical outfits whenever she goes to capture a Clow Card). It’s a super comfy SOL with some ridiculously cute romance elements. I’m preaching to the choir though lol. |
TripleSRankMay 26, 2020 6:48 PM
| [ Naruto --> Japanese Kami (like tsukuyomi, amaterasu) [/quote] Naruto is inspired by Indin mythology (chakra, reincarnation, tree of life, indra, Ashura, 5 elements etc) |
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| I felt like Arifureta was a clone of Rising of the Shield hero with Shinobu from Monogatari thrown in. Disregarding the shinobu part since tons of anime have vampire lolis, Shield Hero and Arifureta had some parallels. If I am correct, both main characters had a desire to head back to their home world, both had a starting useless power/ability, both treated like shit, both gain tons of power to mop the floor against other previous teammates, girls started to flock towards Macs, and both had fairly bad CGI. Though, Shield Hero CG was better than Arifureta. |
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mono_mer said: [ Naruto --> Japanese Kami (like tsukuyomi, amaterasu) Naruto is inspired by Indin mythology (chakra, reincarnation, tree of life, indra, Ashura, 5 elements etc) So, Naruto is inspired by Japanese folklore and Buddhism mythology with a bit of |
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TripleSRank said: Chiibi said: @TripleSRank Oh! Actually I haven't. xD I guess I should....someday haha. I also think it wouldn't exist without Card Captor Sakura too. BOW TO CLAMP THEN, MADOKAAAAAAAAAA >:D Hahaha, good on you for not quoting my post then. I wouldn’t want to spoil anything, but I’m really not exaggerating. You should! It’s still a bit campy, but season 2 was very good overall. Maybe for the cutesy character designs, but I think people overestimate how much CCS is like “other mahou shoujo” too. There are no sentai elements; the stakes are relatively low; and the show outright makes fun of a couple mahou shoujo tropes (like how Tomoyo makes Sakura dress up in fantastical outfits whenever she goes to capture a Clow Card). It’s a super comfy SOL with some ridiculously cute romance elements. I’m preaching to the choir though lol. Yes...but also Sakura got SO popular...especially with uh....older guys and someone said 'Let's make a cutesy show like that only aim it at men, so they made the Nanoha franchise and then Gen Urobuchi probably saw the success of that and he said "I'm gonna do this too only f*ck everyone in the cast over because I like angst, violence and doom." xD ....at least that's how I imagine it might have went... |
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| Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood is a huge ass rip off of Fullmetal Alchemist (2003), it even stole the characters and gave them the same names. How did they get away with this?! |
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OnionKnightRises said: Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood is a huge ass rip off of Fullmetal Alchemist (2003), it even stole the characters and gave them the same names. How did they get away with this?! This pulled some chuckles from me and put smile on my face. Well played |
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| @Deeboy Don't forget Naturo copied HxH author's previous work as well, Yu Yu Hakusho. Togashi the MFKING G.O.A.T. in this bitch. |
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Chiibi said: TripleSRank said: Hahaha, good on you for not quoting my post then. I wouldn’t want to spoil anything, but I’m really not exaggerating. You should! It’s still a bit campy, but season 2 was very good overall. Maybe for the cutesy character designs, but I think people overestimate how much CCS is like “other mahou shoujo” too. There are no sentai elements; the stakes are relatively low; and the show outright makes fun of a couple mahou shoujo tropes (like how Tomoyo makes Sakura dress up in fantastical outfits whenever she goes to capture a Clow Card). It’s a super comfy SOL with some ridiculously cute romance elements. I’m preaching to the choir though lol. Yes...but also Sakura got SO popular...especially with uh....older guys and someone said 'Let's make a cutesy show like that only aim it at men, so they made the Nanoha franchise and then Gen Urobuchi probably saw the success of that and he said "I'm gonna do this too only f*ck everyone in the cast over because I like angst, violence and doom." xD ....at least that's how I imagine it might have went... Does Nanoha really have that much in common with CSS? It’s one of the only popular mahou shoujo franchises I haven’t checked out yet. I always assumed it was something in between Sailor Moon and Precure, plus a bit of fanservice. CCS invokes my paternal instincts. I find it difficult to correlate that with a franchise that’s rumored to be actiony and a bit fanservice-y since CCS is neither. The correlation between Rayearth and Madoka is pretty direct, but I suppose in terms of determining a target audience your progression of thought does seems plausible. |
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Kinda? The designs for one...especially how everything has wings. The flying wand she rides on. And she has to collect jewel seeds the way Sakura has to collect cards. Also there's the age of the girls...she is 9 in the first show, Sakura is 10...there is a boy wizard too...honestly there is a lot of stuff that's VERY similar. I remember when Nanoha was first coming out, people on the animesuki forums were fighting over who was better; Nanoha or Sakura. xD lol I think if you watched the shows back to back, you might think '....shouldn't Clamp be mad about this?" Lol |
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horridhendy said: You already mentioned the one that first came to mind. Bunny Girl Senpai feels like a diet version of Monogatari mashed in with Kokoro Connect. I actually really enjoyed Bunny Girl Senpai but it's nowhere near as good as Monogatari. Man, I haven’t thought about Kokoro Connect in soooooooo long. I wonder if my opinion of the series would be different if I watched it now. :thinking: I know you meant it do be disparaging, but this actually makes me nominally more interested in Bunny Girl Senpai. |
Chiibi said: Kinda? The designs for one...especially how everything has wings. The flying wand she rides on. And she has to collect jewel seeds the way Sakura has to collect cards. Also there's the age of the girls...she is 9 in the first show, Sakura is 10...there is a boy wizard too...honestly there is a lot of stuff that's VERY similar. I remember when Nanoha was first coming out, people on the animesuki forums were fighting over who was better; Nanoha or Sakura. xD lol I think if you watched the shows back to back, you might think '....shouldn't Clamp be mad about this?" Lol Huh. Interesting. I didn’t know that. Wait... did they seriously put fanservice in a show about little girls? That’s kinda messed up if so. Makes me a little less inclined to watch the series even though I was told by a female friend that it was good. .___.; Like, if you’re gonna go that route with mahou shoujo you could at least use older characters. Afaik, the main character in Cutey Honey (for example) ranges from a late teenager to young adult. That’s another franchise I’m not very familiar with though. |
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TripleSRank said: Wait... did they seriously put fanservice in a show about little girls? That’s kinda messed up if so. YES, IT IS QUITE CREEPY. xD Totally agree...though they are brief scenes....but who wants to see a nine-year-old totally nekkid....srsly The girls do get older in the seasons that follow...but...but...no, pretty tasteless to do that to a nine-year-old in the first season...because she's nine. |
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Chiibi said: TripleSRank said: Wait... did they seriously put fanservice in a show about little girls? That’s kinda messed up if so. YES, IT IS QUITE CREEPY. xD Totally agree...though they are brief scenes....but who wants to see a nine-year-old totally nekkid....srsly The girls do get older in the seasons that follow...but...but...no, pretty tasteless to do that to a nine-year-old in the first season...because she's nine. Geez. Anime’s degeneracy knows no bounds I guess. Thanks for the warning. At least I’ll know beforehand whenever I get around to the franchise. |
I have to say, and I wrote this in my review, and saw another person make the same connection, that although Kokoro Connect and Sakurada Reset have a weird time thing going on, Bunny Girl Senpai is a much closer match to Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi.
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TripleSRank said: Magic Knight Rayearth —> Madoka Magica This is by far the most obvious case I’ve encountered. While the settings are very different superficially, the basic idea of tricking girls into becoming mahou shoujo is the same, and multiple specific story developments are literally copied from the former and pasted into the latter. This makes all of the claims that Madoka is “super original” and a “deconstruction” particularly grating since on top of not being true in general, it is quite blatantly the opposite— highly derivative— once you’re aware of Rayearth. Edit: @Fario-P and @GlennMagusHarvey might find this to be of note. I've only really read the original Magic Knight Rayearth—I haven't seen/read 2 yet. I hope what you said here wasn't a spoiler for it... |
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Fario-P said: TripleSRank said: Magic Knight Rayearth —> Madoka Magica This is by far the most obvious case I’ve encountered. While the settings are very different superficially, the basic idea of tricking girls into becoming mahou shoujo is the same, and multiple specific story developments are literally copied from the former and pasted into the latter. This makes all of the claims that Madoka is “super original” and a “deconstruction” particularly grating since on top of not being true in general, it is quite blatantly the opposite— highly derivative— once you’re aware of Rayearth. Edit: @Fario-P and @GlennMagusHarvey might find this to be of note. I've only really read the original Magic Knight Rayearth—I haven't seen/read 2 yet. I hope what you said here wasn't a spoiler for it... You don’t know which parts are derivative, so I would say no. Do not highlight the whited-out portions of my replies to Chiibi, though. |
| https://i.imgur.com/SC5zklu.jpg I'll leave this here because of all the madoka talk. I enjoyed both shows, (saw ryuki first) and it didn't hit me until I found this. |
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| I respect Macross and Kawamori a lot but the plot is clearly inspired by Ideon, and the alien battle robots have the same weird chicken design. |
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Hokuto_no_Lied said: My Hero Academia: Two Heroes is a blatant copy of Hunter x Hunter: The Last Mission. Why? Well I could be wrong, but that’s how I felt when I watched Two Heroes. There is actually a giant reddit post about the similarity between these two, I read it a couple of months ago and I'm surprised how there is no more people going mad because of this. |
TripleSRank said: I have not seen the second season (or second half, depending on numbering) of Magic Knight Rayearth.Have you seen Magic Knight Rayearth 2? Because if you haven’t, that might be why you aren’t seeing the heavy similarities. I mean, they both have the whole perma-killing an important character early on thing early on, but the more important over-arching issue with both worlds is essentially identical, right down to the way both main characters abuse the wishing powers in their respective world to fix said world because their world is doomed to die. I don’t believe Madoka Magica would be exist as it currently does without Rayearth. The core story beats are far too identical. So, fair point, perhaps. That said, the third spoiler you mention seems like something I'd associate more with YuYuYu than with Madoka Magica. Also, I still think Madoka Magica takes after Cardcaptor Sakura and Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha to greater extents. |
GlennMagusHarveyMay 26, 2020 11:32 PM
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| Saint seiya → Shurato its similar to be honest |
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| A lot of Isekai shows are very similar to each other. - There are many that include "defeating the demon lord" or highest level boss to save the world or escape to your own reality/leave the game. - Quite a few of the main protagonists arrive or reincarnated as very powerful beings - There's always a magic system. - Most protagonists choose to stay in the world after they accomplish their goals as what they have is better than their previous lives as shut-in NEETs. I think what I just listed include more shows than you can count on your fingers and toes. |
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MistaAsh said: Black Clover is just a blatant copy of Naruto Their are some similarities between Naruto and Black Clover but the philosophy which the protagonist support and the mythologies they are based on different. Naruto: is forgiving person who don't like the idea of revenge and a stubborn one Asta: is a opposite of Naruto and it is seen in the Devil arc Yuno is a rival similar to SASUKE but SASUKE is after revenge and don't consider others feeling Yuno is different he considers feeling of others and is calm The setting of Black Clover might be copied but the philosophy and character construction of all the characters are different from Naruto |
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Daniel_Naumov said: nyugvo6 said: https://i.imgur.com/SC5zklu.jpg I'll leave this here because of all the madoka talk. I enjoyed both shows, (saw ryuki first) and it didn't hit me until I found this. I mean, yeah, when looked upon from this perspective using a simple list it does look suspicious. But please refer to this Daniel_Naumov said: I will not be contesting it as is, but I would like to add that it does not necessarily have to be the direct influence or copying. As the reality is shared and people base themselves upon the existing and evident (regardless of the beholder) world, some people might come to the same or quite the same answers. There certainly is copying narratives or parts of it, but I believe there is also the "unintentional copying" when an author, unaware of the original, comes up with concepts strangely close to it. Of course, knowing the difference without consulting the author and asking him "how" and "why" is impossible. But in theory, this differentiation exists. I would still rather believe it is a fortunate coincidence (and as far as I am concerned Madoka Magica is a more profound story than the Kamen Rider... ever wanted to be) than admit there is a shameless copy-pasting of the narratives and story-tools. Let us keep an open mind shall we. urobuchi watched ryuki, a battle royale show. thought it was cool and made a magical girl show akin to it. years later he directed his own kamen rider show called gaim, and turned it into the exact same battle royale. clearly just a coincidence. |
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TripleSRank said: it is quite blatantly the opposite— highly derivative This goes without saying about deconstruction - it takes popular stuff and picks it apart to show how it works. Magic Knight Rayearth just has a dark twist added to the typical mahou shoujo formula. Madoka picks apart several mahou shoujo tropes and plays with the magic system. The difference is like seeing a girl (actually several girls - Clamp) playing with her dolls and a nerd playing with his action figures (which happen to be magical girls). |
TripleSRank said: horridhendy said: You already mentioned the one that first came to mind. Bunny Girl Senpai feels like a diet version of Monogatari mashed in with Kokoro Connect. I actually really enjoyed Bunny Girl Senpai but it's nowhere near as good as Monogatari. Man, I haven’t thought about Kokoro Connect in soooooooo long. I wonder if my opinion of the series would be different if I watched it now. :thinking: I know you meant it do be disparaging, but this actually makes me nominally more interested in Bunny Girl Senpai. Kokoro Connect was great. It was one of the first few anime shows I watched actually. I didn't really necessarily mean to be disparaging, as I said, I really liked Bunny Girl Senpai. I gave the show an 8. I think the thing they got right was the Sakuta x Mai relationship. I just meant that it does feel like a bit of a copy of Kokoro Connect and Monogatari but I loved those shows too so as long as it's a good copy then I don't mind. That said, I really LOVE monogatari. It's one of my absolute favourites so Bunny Girl Senpai just doesn't compare. I'd say that Bunny Girl Senpai and Kokoro Connect are roughly on par imo, with Kokoro being slightly better. I've heard that the Bunny Girl Senpai movie is really good though but I haven't seen it yet. |
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shanimebib said: Gintama copied from One Piece, Naruto, Dragon Ball, Bleach, Hokuto, Fist of the North Star, Gundam, Bersark, Kuroko, Code Geass, Haikyuu, Kenshin, Death Note, Trigun, Ashita no Joe, Prince of Tennis, Slam Dunk, Major, Ichigo 100%, To Love Ru, Nisekoi, Bakuman, Ansatsu Kyoushitsu, GTO, JoJo, Lupan, Kuroshitsuji, Bakemonogatari, Madoka, Captain Tsubasa, Eyeshield 21, Ookiku, Golgo 13, Akagi, Kaiji, Doraemon, TTGL, FMA, NGE, HxH, SNK, SAO, InuYasha, K-On!, Toriko, Laputa, Totoro, Nausicaa, LOGH, Yamato, Ouran Koukou, Sailor Moon, Pretty Cure, Versailles, Sengoku Basara, Tokyo Ghoul to name a few. It's funny how that's probably only 1/10 of all series that Gintama made parody on. |
NamikazeHime said: shanimebib said: Gintama copied from One Piece, Naruto, Dragon Ball, Bleach, Hokuto, Fist of the North Star, Gundam, Bersark, Kuroko, Code Geass, Haikyuu, Kenshin, Death Note, Trigun, Ashita no Joe, Prince of Tennis, Slam Dunk, Major, Ichigo 100%, To Love Ru, Nisekoi, Bakuman, Ansatsu Kyoushitsu, GTO, JoJo, Lupan, Kuroshitsuji, Bakemonogatari, Madoka, Captain Tsubasa, Eyeshield 21, Ookiku, Golgo 13, Akagi, Kaiji, Doraemon, TTGL, FMA, NGE, HxH, SNK, SAO, InuYasha, K-On!, Toriko, Laputa, Totoro, Nausicaa, LOGH, Yamato, Ouran Koukou, Sailor Moon, Pretty Cure, Versailles, Sengoku Basara, Tokyo Ghoul to name a few. It's funny how that's probably only 1/10 of all series that Gintama made parody on. Well, these are some of the references I personally got instantly and more or less from the top of my head. And I already missed the hilarious ones like Detective Conan and Saint Seiya. There could be many more like you said. Most recurring ones are One Piece, Dragon Ball, Bleach, Gundam and Kenshin, I think. This of course doesn't include non anime franchises like star wars, mario, final fantasy (absolutely legendary), jason, micky mouse, jack sparrow, rambo, kfc, nike, playstation and so many more. |
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