86--EIGHTY-SIX (light novel)
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| So the entire episode was basically a YouTuber apology video. They didn't even go into detail about how Kaie died other than showing a split-second clash with the enemy lowe. I would have liked to see more but it seems A-1's treatment of the 86 is no better than San Magnolia's. It's hard for me to feel anything for these guys. |
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| This is fantastic, this show has slowly become my favorite of the season. Great episode again. Characters like Lena are the ones I tend to love the most. Characters who stick to their ideals even if they are admonished for them, even though they know that they can't change the world by themselves, they can't afford to give up on those ideals cause if they did, it would be a disservice to everything they stood for. They learn from the mistakes they made and make an effort to improve themselves, the little changes and the little personal battles you fight are the ones that mean the most. Character like Lena are the best way to show uncompromising human integrity in the face of overwhelming social pressure, the entire sequence of her asking Shin for the names of everyone in the unit was touching and beautiful. Easily, my favorite part of the episode. The cut into the ED was amazing. Soundtrack before it was great too. So Lena knows Shin's brother, interesting. I'm kinda wishing we got to know the name of the commander the squad was talking about, maybe Lena knows that person too. |
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| The direction in this episode has been especially great, first episode where i truly felt that this show is gonna go places. |
| I don't know what LN readers are complaining about.. i personally am freaking loving this direction.. and the way everyone is reacting in this episode.. no cliche.. i think 86 peeps know that Lena may be an Alba but she isn't a bad person.. also.. was Lena writing in English LMAO.. they are not going low on stereotyping the Britians as Alba xD also.. loved the way they handled the ED in today's episode.. Lena looked so freaking badass! |
| Given what just happened Theo's rage is certainly understandable. On top of that the manner in which their previous controllers and society treating them like crap only added fuel to the fire. Poor Kaie though. More than anything seeing the staggering contrasts between the inner world and the outer world only serves to show just how warped the republic actually is. Lena's persistence in forging bonds with the squadron though really paid off. By knowing their names her heart will become ever stronger. Inscribing the names of the deceased to carry with you was a nice idea given that they couldn't carve them on to the memorials. But man the amount of comrades that Shin has lost since the war began was staggering. The apology and the honest talk that Lena had with the squadron though was heartening. While they won't see her as an equal at least the relationship between them is now a better one. Overall a pretty emotionally charged ep that contrasted well with not only the distorted world view that Alba view the world with but also one that exposed the fragile heart that Lena had. |
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| Undertaker's burden's a heavy one, I feel for the guy. Mirizé was great in this episode, she didn't run away and faced em properly. |
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| episode focused more on the interelationships rather then the action and i really like that, it was nice to see them get closer and I like how the processors are being straight with Lena and talking to her like they are equals. Undertaker had a really creepy smile at the end there, wonder what the deal with his brother is. |
| clannad is the greatest piece of fiction to ever exist. |
| The anime-original stuff this episode actually has been beneficial, and adding a lot of characterization overall to the whole cast and fleshing out more about the politics and mentality of the Republic itself. The visuals may not be a 10/10 with every frame, but I just love the directing work and the slow pacing, with adding background noise that actually serves as a beneficiary for the show as a whole. Excellent episode. |
| I would have liked to have seen more of Kaie's death but in the perspective of the 86 It was quite interesting the little flashback she had, I wonder if there is more story in her past I'm glad, finally all sorted out and a formal introduction from everyone Shin's brother? How would Lena know him? 0.0 |
| Their feelings are completely understandable, glad she doesn't go cry about that. |
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| This whole episode really highlighted how hard Kaie's death is affecting Lena. I especially enjoyed that scene where Lena was standing on the sidewalk remembering Theo's words from the beginning of the episode, while simultaneously hearing the lady on the broadcast talking about how there was minimal damage on the battlefield with no human fatalities. I liked the added affect of having the voices become more and more distorted, it really made that scene more powerful. Lena continues to try and establish an actual bond with the processors, getting all of their real names. The ending was interesting too, as it seems like we might learn more about Undertaker's brother soon. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. Take me back to the days before MAL became infested with Twitter's favorite buzzwords. |
| The music tho topnotch as always.. |
ThousandCuts said: So the entire episode was basically a YouTuber apology video. They didn't even go into detail about how Kaie died other than showing a split-second clash with the enemy lowe. I would have liked to see more but it seems A-1's treatment of the 86 is no better than San Magnolia's. It's hard for me to feel anything for these guys. LMAO, though I don't agree, great analogy anyways lmao. |
| I gave up on character of the week since it takes too much thinking. I'll just change my forum pfp to whoever I want every week lol. |
| The small actions can turn out to have a great impact. Just by asking the names of the 86 directly one can tell Lena is trying her best to communicate and better understand them. |
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| Another death of the 86 with Kaie's death, and even with Laughing Fox Theo's rant, every death is insignificant in the eyes of the White Pigs, even if Lena tries to lend her sympathy because she's simply part of the Republic, and acting almighty isn't cutting her true intentions. It's easy to see from Annette's view that all she sees is a lab and some pudding, but that's not what Lena is aiming for, given her backstory with her deceased father in the same district that houses the Undertaker Shin and others: 86. War may be stupid, but humanity is even more stupid if no action is taken, and the depth of Lena's uncle's words (not to mention Theo's rant) is staggering, not to mention powerful dialogue. The first step of reconciliation between Lena and the 86 (starting from Undertaker Shin): knowing each and every Spearhead member's names, living and dead, and carving all of their names together on Shin's mind to their final destination. Spending time to bond with the 86 and getting over their one-sided mindsets, adding HiroyukiSawano's specialized ED takes the cream this episode. A bunch or morons, Republic or 86, this is only the start of something new. The establishment of Shin's brother, the next plotline. This show can be a slow burn for all I care, because it's treading the pacing very nicely for it's split-cour run. And I'm enjoying every high and low moment this show ensues. |
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| Another great episode and, once again, the original added content is working wonders to flesh out these characters. It is particularly great how we are getting more of the 86 side thanks to this dual perspective view, seeing as vol.1 was mostly Lena centric. They didn't add Kaye's last moments, but after the solid directing so far, I trust that A1 will make up for this once the "reveal" comes later, since they will probably shoehorn some scenes. Honestly hope they keep this pacing, since I wouldn't mind at all if they only adapted 1 volume, even with some more original content. |
KaitonMay 1, 2021 11:30 AM
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| How this episode for me: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Was a snoozer. Im feeling that i was bamboozle by the LN readers word, of how good this was. I may begin to consider this an anime to watch while playing games on my phone. |
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| The anime taking their time adapting the scenes and moments nicely. The episode starts on Spearhead POV, they showed the battle aftermath, and Theo's rant. The second is about Lena reach out to knowing their names which is a nice scene. And flashback about Lena and how she sees the true situation of 86ers. The episode ends on Shin remembering his older brother with his ominous smile. The art, animation and background are good this episode. The OST between scenes is good too. We got a new ED with nice transition. Overall pretty good episode |
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| This episode focused on Lena's beliefs and her conflicts after Kaie's death. I personally really enjoyed seeing her deal with her difficulties. Lena is definitely a really steadfast and strong character. Seeing her move on and come to terms with the squadron members was really interesting. The soundtracks in this episode were once again fricking amazing. |
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| Disappointing to say the least that they didn't even adapt the death. |
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| So did Shinei kill his brother or something? His smile implicated that imo. |
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Pre_Yum said: That was a great episode imo. I must praise Lena for having the guts to ask them their names after all that happened. But, it wasn't her fault, to begin with. It's the world they live in. But, I'm glad that everything got resolved in the end and they were happy that they were asked their names by their handler. Looks like we're going to look into Undertaker's story now and his brother's relation with all that. unreal :monkagiga |
no remorse holds no recourse now i'm leaving slowly oh won't you hold me? |
bringerofanan said: Pre_Yum said: That was a great episode imo. I must praise Lena for having the guts to ask them their names after all that happened. But, it wasn't her fault, to begin with. It's the world they live in. But, I'm glad that everything got resolved in the end and they were happy that they were asked their names by their handler. Looks like we're going to look into Undertaker's story now and his brother's relation with all that. unreal :monkagiga Hello... PepeLaugh |
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| Great episode, probably my favorite one so far. Loving the Lena PoV on this episode, usually I prefer the Spearheads PoV. Pity they didn't show much of Kaie's last scenes, though they already missed the moment anyways since it will not be as impactful to put Kaie's death scene here instead of last episode, I feel. |
| I'm loving it more and more by each episode. SawanoHiroyuki's sound tracks always hits differently. |
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| Solid episode, amazing OST. They're doing a really good job at developing the characters. |
   “You yourself have to change first, or nothing will change for you!” ' |
| Apparently this episode was half filler, but it flows in rather seamlessly which is actually kinda impressive. (I know MHA usually does this, but their writing quality is too unfortunately lackluster to really matter much.) What Lena is doing right now isn't necessarily gonna solve everything, that's a given, it's still a disconnect, it's different from meeting people in person and asking for their names and such, but it's still better than not doing anything about it. The Republic seems to be no longer wanting to abide by its now "unobtainable ideals", and is basically grasping for their survival by throwing other races under the bus like the members of 86. It's a fucked deal, but I can't but think of how this eerily mirrors the racial / social issues in our real life modern day society right now, especially with social media being MORE prominent than ever. The nuances in the directing in this episode was also really good, too. For example, playing the news report with Theo's tirade ringing in Lena's head, resulting in a head splitting cacophony that prompted Lena to run off in confusion and frustration. Again, I understand people will still not buy anything and think this show is bad because apparently they don't like complex slowbuilding stuff, but I digress, because it's just simply not for them. |
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| Great episode, I really like how this anime is taking its time in establishing the characters' emotions and sense of ideals. The way this episode was directed, how it perfectly captures Lena's conflicting thoughts and feelings, is simply fantastic. Lena won't ever be seen as their equals as long as she doesn't take part in the battlefield, but her realizing how naïve her previous beliefs were and her willingness to acknowledge it is already a good step forward. Looks like we may be getting more of Shin's backstory next episode, looking forward to it. I recently bought the first volume of the LN and just got my hands on it yesterday. Very excited to read it. It's been a long time since an anime has been interesting enough to make me buy a physical copy of the original source. |
  "As promised, all that you seek, all that we desire, is prepared up there. On top of the Tower." |
| If there's one thing for sure the directing for this ep was top notch, especially with how they replayed whatever that guy's name monologue over and over. Events flowed pretty well as well But so far 4 eps in and the characters are still pretty bleh. Lena right now just seems like the average idealistic/naive shounen hero of justice with tits, and the rest of the squadron are kinda just......there. I still have hope for Shin because that smirk at the end while remembering his scribbled out brother makes me hope he's got an interesting story to him Though yea........idk so far story is feeling a bit too idealistic imo, though it's still early stages so hopefully more to come z00nex said: So did Shinei kill his brother or something? His smile implicated that imo. shin turns out to be a yandere love interest that's why he smiled when his bro died /subscribe |
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
Hmmm can't agree with this part, expecting to develop all of their squad characters in only 4 episodes... interesting. Theo is a part of that squad and literally bullying the main heroin, he is not "just there" imo |
| it's like watching 4 episodes of Aot and saying: "man, reiner is just there" |
| Another good episode. I'm really fine with the pacing, it just feels appropriate. I'm a huge fan of the double perspective, so I really like how the story takes us back and forth between Lena's point of view and world, as well as the point of view of the squadron. The glimpse of Shin's backstory was really painful. The fact that 86' fallen soldiers don't even get graves shows how much dehumanized they are, and what I think of as burdening Shin even more. It's like even if he wanted to die, he can't because he needs to carry them all to their final destination. I doubt that'll be the only dark part of his backstory considering how he reacted to Lena's mentioning his brother and the smile that was drawn on his face at the end. I really liked the scene where Theo's words kept playing in Lena's head and how she ran away as though she's going to escape them. I wonder if Theo's commander is by chance Lena's father or someone related to Lena. Always looking forward to more. |
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ItsNoux said: Hmmm can't agree with this part, expecting to develop all of their squad characters in only 4 episodes... interesting. Theo is a part of that squad and literally bullying the main heroin, he is not "just there" imo well firstly from literally the exact same post: though it's still early stages so hopefully more to come I know it's only 4 eps in, I'm not expecting each character to be 6D or something. I'm simply evaluating my opinion on them based on these first 4 eps (which have been very character focused) And I should also clarify, by "just there" I don't mean in terms of backstory/role in the present, I mean more of their personality/character. So far none of the cast really stand out, most just seem to be there to fulfil an archetype Like literally you have: ara ara onee-san cuckold bratty kid big bro clumsy love interest monotonus badass and the rest which haven't been properly introduced yet. It's the same thing with MHA. Even with some 90+ eps of that series there still are some characters in the class that are just "there" (like the invisible girl for instance). Again, I know it's only 4 eps, but no one really seems all that interesting apart from maybe Shin with that smile at the end imo |
'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
| God the ost is so good!! and the scene with pig drawings had me on the floor too.. I wonder how she knew undertaker's brother tho |
Short_Circut said: Damn what a twist.z00nex said: So did Shinei kill his brother or something? His smile implicated that imo. shin turns out to be a yandere love interest that's why he smiled when his bro died /subscribe |
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| Damn, they are going to add every dead 86 to the end of the opening. It's going to start becoming a heavy reminder once more and more start piling up. |
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| 00:00 Now we see Theo's emotional takedown of Lena from his side. 00:56 Great cinematography showing the look of coldness in the Spearhead Squadron's eyes. 02:48 A-1 don't hold back. They have given us an evolving opening animation. 03:56 Notice that the scene briefly focuses on Anju's back... 08:45 A brief flashback to Václav and Lena's flight is inserted after her conversation with Annette. Hopefully, more will be shown in episode 5. 12:18 Brilliant contrast between Lena hearing the repetitive propaganda-filled news report and remembering Theo's words to her following Kaie's death. 13:21 When Lena asks Shin for the Spearhead Squadron's names, learning why he's the Undertaker, she is at the cemetery where the names of Alba soldiers are recorded (including Václav Milizé). A special ED this episode; SawanoHiroyuki[nZk]:Laco『Hands Up to the Sky』 22:55 "Shin’s eyes widened, ever so slightly." Look at where the neck of Shin's shadow is cast... Music video for 3 minutes 29 seconds was also released today: |
Fortress_MaximusMay 1, 2021 6:16 PM
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| another amazing episode, i really love undertaker and my heart literally cried for theo for how he felt, i still don't really like lena even though she's really trying her best but she's also very privileged Also why the score so low it's literally a goddamn great show |
madelajn3May 1, 2021 2:55 PM
| Daiya looked like he wanted to swap places with Theo so bad when the girls jumped him. Speaking of him they edited his face where Kaie was in the opening so I guess that means he's next on the chopping block. A good episode. Once again the best scenes happen after the end credits. Pleased to see Lena's not the only Alba to not be hostile/indifferent to the 86, makes the setting far more believable. Kudos to Shin for genuinely doing his best to connect her with the team, though I guess he was doing it as much for Theo's sake as for others. The last scene was very nice, as it feels like just the tip of the iceberg for a connection truly being created between all of them. Vaclav straight up took his kid to a battlefleld, lmao, ok dude. I appreciate that the anime doesn't shy away from his failings along with his qualities. Annette is probably how the average person would act in the present situation. No major ire or hostility towards the oppressed but not a shred of empathy either. Just choosing to go by life while pretending it has nothing to do with you, since it's out of your control anyway. Easiest way to stay sane. Though not the most pretty. Hope we get more from Shin's PoV in the future. |
| Okay I was literally Bawling when Shin started Telling Lena all his comrades names. 10/10 |
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