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Do You Love Your Mom and Her Two-Hit Multi-Target Attacks? (light novel)
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Aug 2, 2019 8:24 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Wise's mom has problems...

It seems this episode took on a more serious tone with Masato defending Wise. So glad Masato's mom isn't anything like her. Definitely felt like this was the most serious episode in the show so far.
Aug 2, 2019 9:18 AM
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That was the first volume and the only one i read since the others where not translated yet.
Anyway Weiss made up with her mother somehow which was funny to watch.
Now i wonder that will happen next.
Aug 2, 2019 9:23 AM
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That was the first volume and the only one i read since the others where not translated yet.
Anyway Weiss made up with her mother somehow which was funny to watch.
Now i wonder that will happen next.


Literally fighting with your mother isn't what I call making up, but at least you know where Weiss' tsundere traits came from.


Aug 2, 2019 9:59 AM
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Ok, I gave it a shot but now I have to drop it...straight into the dumpster
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Aug 2, 2019 10:26 AM
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Pretty nice episode. No fanservice this time.
I like how it's all self aware.

"We just don't know how handle this shit so we call them quest and let you deal with it."
Top kek
Aug 2, 2019 10:57 AM
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Shiraaaaase's eye beams killed me lmao.

I thought the series couldn't get more over the top and then she just randomly does that lolol (and her Admin spell is a Ban Hammer lol)

Some of the humor here reminds me of Konosuba
Aug 2, 2019 12:38 PM
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Wise's mother is crazy lol. Good thing they were able to solve that problem.

Aug 2, 2019 12:47 PM
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Damn, that was bad, I had to skip a little quite often, so I can finish this episode

3/5 because I'm really generous, but I honestly didn't like it at all


I'll drop this anime after the next episode for sure, unless it will somehow be an actually good episode, which I doubt

All isekai anime had the worst episodes this week, they were all really disappointing
Aug 2, 2019 12:59 PM
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This show is fun but I'm at the point where my enjoyment from it is pretty much nothing so I'm probably going to stop watching now lol
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Aug 2, 2019 1:08 PM
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Oh God, i'm not really into this parental moral story tbh. Even weirder when i got it from a slightly Ecchi anime.

I'm only stay watching this because of Kayano Ai's voice
Aug 2, 2019 1:12 PM

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Shirase is definitely my favorite character in this series. At least she makes up in the comedy side where the others don't (BANHAMMER lol)

Also damn mother's are OP in this world xd
Aug 2, 2019 1:53 PM
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Well, that ends Wise's mom issue, so, I guess the reason she stayed was that she has a crush on the guy.
Aug 2, 2019 3:09 PM

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This was really fun again.

Wise and her mom have such a wholesome relationship. I still couldn't handle the guy throne xD

One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron


Aug 2, 2019 3:22 PM

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-Aincrad- said:

All isekai anime had the worst episodes this week, they were all really disappointing


I agree. Besides this isekai anime, I also watch:

-Arifureta Shokugyou de Sekai Saikyou (latest eps.-> appalling CGI)
-Isekai Cheat Magician (latest eps.-> dumb plot elements and way too strong villains)
-Maou-sama, Retry!
...and I have to say that all of them had their (by far) worst episodes this week. Well, granted, maybe not "Maou-sama, Retry!". That episode was decent.
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Aug 2, 2019 3:26 PM

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lol they act like it was a fight between middle school BFFs; it was between parent and child -depending on context; that shit could count as emotional abuse -especially in regards to custody and visitation.

It seems the accidental incest episode is about the best this series can do, I'll probably drop.
Aug 2, 2019 4:04 PM

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This episode was really good.

I'm so glad this anime exists. There's so little anime that focus on family bonds and relationships so having this which entirely focuses on mothers is great.

More Mamako is always welcome to my week watches.
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Aug 2, 2019 4:07 PM
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aww wise stayed in the game with em even she pretty much cleared the game lol
Aug 2, 2019 5:02 PM

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Banhammer... XD

Shirase best character of the anime!!11
Aug 2, 2019 5:25 PM

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*dense MC skill activated* it's super effective!

I wonder if Wise will make any progress lmao.
Aug 2, 2019 5:34 PM

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A story are its plot and the relationship between its characters (who made the plot).
The comedy is great, but the main part of the story... normal SOL have way more thoughts put into it.

So watching such high production value on this supposed mother-children relationship...
They don't even bother explaining Kazuno's pov of the story (as much of a bitch she is)...
JC butchering stuff again for the sake of "animating"
Aug 2, 2019 5:36 PM

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so like hightwning mom and kids problems... damn that was a little heavy or was it just me...and what happened to the debt
Aug 2, 2019 6:37 PM

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Wise's mom is much hotter with orange hair
I think shaming Wise's mom for having a healthy sex imagination is not a good look.

Shiraaaaase
Shirase might be best girl
I think the last anime that had a mother and son as uncomfortably close as this was in literally 1989 (when it was a major 1980s meme), so we've come full circle in the 80s revival lol

Wise is chilling (presumably in the house of the parent who has actual custody, iiirc)
Wise's mom: surprise, you're getting isekai'd
Wise has to apologize for being upset at this turn of events

Welcome to Asia, I guess

I guess this episode is hinting there's some secret mastermind in the background of the game manipulating things for lulz and chaos
Aug 2, 2019 6:50 PM
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This was a wholesome episode with no fan service. Wise's mom was acting like a spoiled brat and she still didn't change her ways after she was defeated. I'm glad Wise decided to stay Mamako's party after confronting her mom. It would be best Wise if she stayed with her Dad when the game is over since Wise and her mom can't stand each other.
Aug 2, 2019 9:48 PM
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i really hate this series attempt to redeem Wise's mom. she is a terrible mother and terrible woman being period

I kinda understand if she become corrupt after tasting the great power she acquired in the game. but she already terrible before enter the game. what kinda mother will name her daughter with her favorite manwhore?

And what's whit this "children will only take away your freedom bullshit"? Wise doesnt want to have anything to do with her and and she even choose her father after their divorce. She didn't take away anything from you. You can do anything you want Bitch!

Any why Wise has to be the one to apologize as if her mother didn't do anything wrong?
Aug 2, 2019 10:01 PM

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See, if this series didn't show too much fanservice like this episode, this will be better. I don't understand why they put massive FS in episode 2 and 3, don't make the same mistake that made me hate the manga adaptation.

This episode also close the vol 1 of the novel. A battle between Genya and her mother Kazuno. Mamako give some word to Kazuno, and this is the part that make me love this series, when Mamako talk about her parenting life.

Wise still in the party after her mother logout from the game. Uuu Mamako notice that feeling, huh ?

And I noticed that Shirase got more airtime this week. She is the joker here, looks like Arai Satomi-san got her Hata Ranko's vibe again here.
Aug 2, 2019 10:18 PM

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probably the worst episode so far ...
i did not like to much the flow of things and how the "problem"
was solved...
2>3>1>4
Aug 2, 2019 10:34 PM

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Now this is a serious episode. And good thing that Shirase isn't dead, but comic relief. BANHAMMER!

Salvage episode perhaps? And come on, if this episode really tries to imitate IRL mother-child relationship...I guess it does its job? And a half-assed one at that.

So Wise stayed on with the team. That's not a surprise given how much her mom's (after supposedly awakening) manipulate self shows.

XanderFenikkusu said:
-Aincrad- said:

All isekai anime had the worst episodes this week, they were all really disappointing


I agree. Besides this isekai anime, I also watch:

-Arifureta Shokugyou de Sekai Saikyou (latest eps.-> appalling CGI)
-Isekai Cheat Magician (latest eps.-> dumb plot elements and way too strong villains)
-Maou-sama, Retry!
...and I have to say that all of them had their (by far) worst episodes this week. Well, granted, maybe not "Maou-sama, Retry!". That episode was decent.


To be frank, "Maou-sama, Retry!" in context had the best episode out of said isekai this week, and nuff said. And honestly, this should stop.
Aug 2, 2019 11:09 PM
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Looking forward to mamako in school uniform next week!
Aug 2, 2019 11:48 PM

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I made a gif of the best part.

Aug 3, 2019 12:04 AM

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Honestly, I don't know whether to consider this episode to be cheesy as hell or just terribly executed. I mean, the way they tried to redeem Kazuno's relationship with Wise was just... no. There are women who shouldn't be mothers and Kazuno is clearly one of them. She literally said she would have preferred to not give birth to Wise, said she would like to be free and then, if it wasn't enough clear, she proceeded to physically attack her daughter. She only thinks of herself and is clearly at fault yet Wise is the one who had to apologize for stating the facts... I don't know what to think, seriously.

By the way, the idea of receiving a heartfelt speech about how to be a mother from an anime with so many incestuous vibes is kinda... weird to say the least.

Anyways, this was probably the worst episode so far. Not that the previous ones were actually something remarkable but at least, with fanservice and all, they were more entertaining than this one.

P.S.: On agreement with some people here. Shirase's character is indeed a blessing for this kind of series.
Aug 3, 2019 1:15 AM
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Hmm seems that Wise's relationship with her mother was quite bad from the onset. If anything Wise's mother really has become quite OP in the game and even more so after gaining skills that weren't part of the game in the first place. The fact that she's cheating as well only made it worst. Still the discussion with Wise's mother sure was interesting as it showed just how much she detested having a daughter. Conversely it also showed just how unprepared she was for having one when compared to Mamako both physically and mentally. Funny that while the battle ended successfully that the hearwarming reunion that was supposed to come instead turned into a brawl between daughter and mother lol. Overall a solid ep that managed to wrap up Wise's arc quite well while also showing a notable change in the relationship between Masato and Mamako. Im quite curious as to whether we get to see Porters mother next.
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Aug 3, 2019 2:04 AM
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This is utterly a trash....I cannot comprehend the logic of the show....Well...I'd like to say more but i will keep it short.......it gotta be the trashiest show of this season
Aug 3, 2019 5:28 AM

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Best revival scene of all times. It was a short new life. :D

Masato: "I'm the leader."
Mom: "Yes, of course. Now, everyone follow me!" :D
Aug 3, 2019 6:06 AM

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I really liked the episode. This anime can be surprinsingly wholesome at times.
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Aug 3, 2019 8:30 AM

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KANLen09 said:
Now this is a serious episode. And good thing that Shirase isn't dead, but comic relief. BANHAMMER!

Salvage episode perhaps? And come on, if this episode really tries to imitate IRL mother-child relationship...I guess it does its job? And a half-assed one at that.

So Wise stayed on with the team. That's not a surprise given how much her mom's (after supposedly awakening) manipulate self shows.

XanderFenikkusu said:


I agree. Besides this isekai anime, I also watch:

-Arifureta Shokugyou de Sekai Saikyou (latest eps.-> appalling CGI)
-Isekai Cheat Magician (latest eps.-> dumb plot elements and way too strong villains)
-Maou-sama, Retry!
...and I have to say that all of them had their (by far) worst episodes this week. Well, granted, maybe not "Maou-sama, Retry!". That episode was decent.


To be frank, "Maou-sama, Retry!" in context had the best episode out of said isekai this week, and nuff said. And honestly, this should stop.


That's why I said I'd exclude "Maou-sama, Retry!".
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Aug 3, 2019 8:36 AM
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At this pace Anime will end adapting 3rd vol. of Light Novel(You can Read it in ENglish published by Yen Press all 3 volumes and be ahead of a story.....next episode SCHOOL Arc!!)
Aug 3, 2019 8:51 AM

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Hope that's the last we'll see of Wise's mom. Their relationship is just toxic: she never apologized or even showed a shred of remorse for saying she wished Wise would have never been born.

Banhammer was epic though lol
Aug 3, 2019 9:51 AM

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So far Shirase has been the best character in this anime.
Aug 3, 2019 9:55 AM
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That sucked ass, the show was at least enjoyable when we got some ara ara fanservice. That plot with the mom was so shit, who would make up with such a bitch? And how the fuck did they complete the clear conditions? Dropped
Aug 3, 2019 9:56 AM
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FMmatron said:
This was really fun again.

Wise and her mom have such a wholesome relationship. I still couldn't handle the guy throne xD

Wholesome? I think you mean toxic
Aug 3, 2019 10:24 AM

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FMmatron said:
This was really fun again.

Wise and her mom have such a wholesome relationship. I still couldn't handle the guy throne xD

Wholesome? I think you mean toxic


What do you mean? The quarreling at the end was the embodiment of a perfect mother-daughter relationship :P

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FMmatron said:
NordicHorde said:

Wholesome? I think you mean toxic


What do you mean? The quarreling at the end was the embodiment of a perfect mother-daughter relationship :P


Just, no. The woman literally named her daughter after her favourite manwhore, her addiction to sex literally tore her family apart, with Wise basically being raised by her father, then she comes back years later and forces Wise into some crazy game out of her own selfish desire (probably to ease her guilt), then proceeds to indulge in the type of behavior that ruined their family in the first place, after which she physically attacks Wise, then says horrible shit about children being nothing but a burden and waste of time. And to top it all off, she shows zero remorse aside from a couple tears and wise ends up being the one to apologize. Total trash.
Aug 3, 2019 11:34 AM
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I needed more battle of the MILF's action to be honest :-)
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Aug 3, 2019 12:37 PM

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NordicHorde said:
FMmatron said:


What do you mean? The quarreling at the end was the embodiment of a perfect mother-daughter relationship :P


Just, no. The woman literally named her daughter after her favourite manwhore, her addiction to sex literally tore her family apart, with Wise basically being raised by her father, then she comes back years later and forces Wise into some crazy game out of her own selfish desire (probably to ease her guilt), then proceeds to indulge in the type of behavior that ruined their family in the first place, after which she physically attacks Wise, then says horrible shit about children being nothing but a burden and waste of time. And to top it all off, she shows zero remorse aside from a couple tears and wise ends up being the one to apologize. Total trash.


Imagine not being able to take the hint, but please go on and take this comedy so seriously.

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FMmatron said:
NordicHorde said:


Just, no. The woman literally named her daughter after her favourite manwhore, her addiction to sex literally tore her family apart, with Wise basically being raised by her father, then she comes back years later and forces Wise into some crazy game out of her own selfish desire (probably to ease her guilt), then proceeds to indulge in the type of behavior that ruined their family in the first place, after which she physically attacks Wise, then says horrible shit about children being nothing but a burden and waste of time. And to top it all off, she shows zero remorse aside from a couple tears and wise ends up being the one to apologize. Total trash.


Imagine not being able to take the hint, but please go on and take this comedy so seriously.


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Aug 3, 2019 1:03 PM

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let me guess Wise strayed in cu'z she has a crush on Masato?????
Aug 3, 2019 1:54 PM

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Ok... It was Ok episode and honestly I was expecting that this series would be on similar level (no incest and ecchi elements).
I could eveng give higher score if not Wise and Wise's mom reconciled in the end, because it would be fine if Wise's mom was acting like garbage only in game but she was acting like that thru Wise entire life which can't be fixed so simply (and that f*cking moment when that garbage person tried to move blame on her daughter - most stereotypical reaction of toxic parent).
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Jesus ChristJesus Christ, i need to stop checking the thread for this anime, it's like people here are just dead inside and unable to enjoy simple things, people here just want to hate this anime for the sake of it without presenting any actual reason, treating like it's something bizarre or even offensive when it's actually not only super funny, not taking itself much seriously but it also have some really good and heartwarming moments like in this episode with Mamako, sad to see what this place is becoming lately, the "MySaltList".

And doesn't even bother to quote me because i will not come back to the thread, bye.
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Jesus ChristJesus Christ, i need to stop checking the thread for this anime, it's like people here are just dead inside and unable to enjoy simple things, people here just want to hate this anime for the sake of it without presenting any actual reason, treating like it's something bizarre or even offensive when it's actually not only super funny, not taking itself much seriously but it also have some really good and heartwarming moments like in this episode with Mamako, sad to see what this place is becoming lately, the "MySaltList".

And doesn't even bother to quote me because i will not come back to the thread, bye.


If you don’t see this that’s fine I just wanna say that I’m stuck in the same boat and I wish people would enjoy this series and appreciate what this story actually is instead of Milf this and Milf that
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No Mamako fanservice, no Wise fanservice. I enjoy this show for its comedy and fanservice but I liked this episode, it was a nice change of tone. And for the comedy, we can always trust Shiraaaaaase, she's hilarious.

I'm not a fan of Wise's mother but despite everything she said, at least she seems interested in improving the relationship with her daughter. They still have a long way to go, but I guess for those in charge, that was enough to justify getting rid of a troublesome player.

Of course Wise stayed for Masato and he doesn't realize it, but Mom does. It would be great if she could help them but the skill she learned in episode 2 will certainly interfere with that.

Porta wanting to join the high five was very cute and it's nice to see the relationship between Mamako and her son getting better.

Busty blue-haired girl for the next episode. Wise is my best girl, let's see if the new girl is at her level... who I'm kidding, I'm sure I'm going to love her xD
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