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| Boy, it's been so long since I've read the manga. I'm amazed I somehow forgot about this very cruel part. Just a reminder that Askeladd and his men certainly aren't good people. They're your typical Vikings. Brutal, but great episode. |
| This was their way of life. Raid and pillage. Kill, rape, enslave. Die and enter Valhalla. |
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| Damn, what a massacre, they would've died either way, they were not going to survive the winter, but still, geez, the civilians were massacred. |
| “What do you do when there is an evil you cannot defeat by just means? Do you stain your hands with evil to destroy evil? Or do you remain steadfastly just and righteous even if it means surrendering to evil?” ― Lelouch Vi Britannia |
| I think this episode was probably my favorite to date. It was beautifully, heart-wrenchingly executed. The author did a great job showing this massacre with the goal of survival from the POV of the innocent civilians. It made it more introspective and depressing, because that's how you are able to empathize with them and contemplate on the morality, necessity and cruelty of this act. Depriving innocents of their lives was brutal, depressing and extremely unfair, but given the circumstances, it was also a way of ensuring the civilians won't inform others of their presence, and survive through the winter. This village just happened to be on the way. I also liked Anne's monologue in the end. The way I understood it, witnessing this tragic incident made her aware that there are people out there who do way more evil things than stealing a ring, without fearing god's punishment. I am interested in seeing whether she survived, and whether she'll foil their plans. I also want to see Canute's reaction to this. |
| One of my favorite episodes so far, good adaptation as far as i remember. Good reminder that Askeladd is still a bad mf. |
JolteonRL said: Elucid said: Nope, part of the manga But still, this episode isnt that relevant to the story Um, yeah it does. Have you watched the episode after this one? You're talking to a manga reader here. This is why this anime is better experienced when binged. |
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| err, you guys know that things exactly like this are still happening around the world, just while you are watching the episode, right? And keeping the proportions, not so far from your homes as you think, since some families are slaughtered in some robbery even in developed countries. |
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| Very sad, but realistic episode. I must express huge commendation to this show for showing vikings as they really were like, both their pros (fighting spirit) and cons (butchering and pillaging). By that maybe some people will finally learn that vikings were not as chivalry and "cool" as recent popcultural trend successfully tried to show them. Same goes with pirates, by the way. |
Jim_White said: JolteonRL said: I feel like this is just a filler episode that has almost nothing to do with the main characters Then you will not like this series, best leave now, cuz themes like this is at the heart of this series. Plenty of senseless shonen out there for you to go back to. Of course, there's plenty of action and war as well but there's also plenty of stuff like this. Harlequina said: Wow, I came here to say the same pretty much. Episode 14 of Vinland Saga: A reminder for anyone that happened to forget that Askeladd and his bunch are pure shit. Some people might have genuinely forgotten that part. I DESPISE them. Askeladd is certainly what you would consider "evil" and while I certainly wouldn't say I like his character, he is certainly a good character for the story. He's not being an evil asshole just for the sake of being an evil asshole either, unlike so many other cartoonist characters, he's well aware that what he's doing is "evil" but he has a goal that he will gladly die for and everything he does has a purpose in reaching that goal. Thors is not a Christian. We don't really know what his beliefs are, or if he even really had any, but there's nothing to suggest that he's a Christian. If anything, his beliefs will be like all the other Norse, it's what he was raised into and he probably don't even know much about Christianity. He would also be against religious tribalism, which is pretty common in Christianity during those times. His philosophy does not come from Christianity, it comes from his experiences in war, much like how his son's will. He was a christian, it's obvious. Read the manga and come back. |
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| HAhaha..where is your god now?? |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| Well that's just how these Nords live. Even those Brits they're the victim now but a couple of hundred years later they are the ones who will be killing and conquering all around the world. Times were tough back then. |
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| That was not easy to watch. |
| I didn't like how the show forced us to realize or remind us that Askeladd is a villain. It's like, "you like the character and sympathize with him? you got used to him without hating him? You see him as a person instead of a monster? well here's a reason why you should not feel sad when our MC eventually kills his ass." I mean, we already knew that Askeladd and his gang were brutal child-killers and rapists, but all of that was basically happening "behind the scenes". The episode was basically a reminder that we should not sympathize with these vikings and/or care when they get butchered rightfully for their sins. |
Sigmar-UnberogenNov 8, 2019 2:27 AM
| Damn the whole village got massacred. |
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TopgunUK said: operationvalkyri said: The scene in the blizzard was gruesome and beautiful at the same time. Yes I noticed she says doki doki. What would the correct translation be? What mood is she in there? She says her heart's pounding like it was when she took the ring. Amazon decided she was really happy about her whole family being slaughtered for some reason. Obviously up for interpretation, but I took it as "I feel alive". I feel my heart pounding like it did when I took the ring. In some morbid way she's relieved that her family may have reached that heaven that they talk about all the time. Maybe feeling relieved/elated she didn't go directly to hell? There are those living who are corrupted by sin, so she's no longer alone I guess; or in the very least, in comparison she can keep the ring I guess. |
| I keep forgetting how messed up and savage Askeladd really is. |
| Ok, this episode was pretty disturbing despite that the gore was moderate. Felt like I was brought back to reality for a second. 5/5 |
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| nice ost but the axe scene felt off, and what was with all the shots of her lips? |
AnimeFreak-San said: is this a male gender issure...human issue...mental illness perhaps? |
| Vinland Saga is relentlessly depressing and dark at times. It's hard to watch more than a couple of episodes, it's good but not an easy watch. People forget Vikings were absolutely brutal and not just some DNes with beards and horns on their helmets like modern day likes to see them. I'd imagine at the time they were the worst of the worst. |
CrashmattJan 7, 2020 12:19 PM
| The harsh realities of war.. |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| Okaay now that was deadly shot. Any posibble sympathy i could feel for Thorfinn and Askeladd gang all gone now. Thorfinn says he wants revenge for his father. Okay i feel the same, then go kill Askelad in his sleep. Just don't talk about honor or something, especially when you don't have any piece of it. They are all unbearable, really. I understand that all these bloodshed is necessary if you want to tell a story about Vikings. I understand and appreciate the quality of manga and wit's work. It's just i hate every character. This anime is really challenging for me. |
| I'll smile the day thorfinn kills most of these guys, the amount of innocent civilians they're killing all the time and still act like they have pride as a warrior. |
| I have a third testicle that gives me psychic powers |
| Highly sentimental episode this time around. I guess it served as another reminder that Askeladd and company aren't good people. |
| This episode itself could be a good ova :D My fav so far. |
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| Yea,times were like that.But still,I found it kind of boring,cus of that girl and her voice.I mean,it was a different approach,showing the spiritual side of those times.Christianity was different back then. |
Come on man,where is that Noragami season 3 masterpiece.We want it, Bones! |
| Just once I'd like to see a Christian not get slaughtered- must be my personal bias. Interesting the potential connection between Thors and the priest though. |
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| After this episode I was thinking, thousands and thousands of people have been massacred like this over the years without any consequences to those who did it. In a time of war like that, the common folk would suffer horribly and most of the time it wouldn't even be noticed, or no one would know who exactly did it, etc. Someone would come to the village after the winter and realise everyone had been slain, and that would be the end of it. I love the dark ages and medieval setting, it's so fascinating. But I'm damn glad I wasn't alive back then. |
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| This episode fucked me up ngl. I haven't really cared to much about what could happen to any of the characters so far (except Thors), but this one was different. Pretty night scenery at the end, when the girl was alone on front of the moon. |
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| Warrior's pride my ass. Bunch of idiots. |
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| This was a chilling reminder that Askeladd and his men aren't the good guys here despite being the main characters in the spotlight. There have been numerous instances where they've brutally pillaged villages throughout the series but what makes this massacre different is how it showed these events in the villager's perspective for the most part. They were just another stepping stone for them to use but it really made me think about how hellish it must've been to live way back then. Innocent people have always been the victims of the worst tragedies for little to no reason at all and it's a horrible reality in our world. I wonder what will happen next. |
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| What a fantastic Episode. So dark, so realistic. WIT Studio was definitely the best choice for this outstanding series. |
| Quite the emotional episode, also shows us how Askeladd knows no mercy and wants to achieve his goal with everything he got |
| Exceptionally good episode, showing yet again why Vinland Saga is outstanding. The quiet discussion about good and evil at the dinner table as well as earlier the scene with the priest were wonderful. How someone as innocent as Ann could be anguished because she had stolen that ring, while the warriors thought about plundering and murdering a whole village. Great story, well executed. This episode gets a solid 10/10 from me. |
| Was kinda obvious that he wanted one of his sons esp this girly dude to die out. But yeah not all plans go according to plan. |
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| The birth of a new Thorfinn?..... JK lol |
 張大です for 張大勇督察 |
| Looks like the priest realized Eren’s plan XDXD Also I heard some bad things about the second OP, but I can say now it’s not as bad as people say. |
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| It's sad and funny to think that people believe that crap. |
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| Love it when the show reminds you that you are not watching good people |
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