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Sep 6, 2019 3:31 PM

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Hatsuyuki said:
Rider9530 said:

Just so you know the author didn't want to do it when he started the manga but the fairy tail author said to him that it will help his manga a lot, so i guess you can blame the fairy tail author for the random fan service.


Or I can just blame him for listening to dumb advice. Why would you ever let someone dictate your own work ?


Sure you're free to blame him, or whoever you want for that matter.
You're also free to blame the anime fanbase. It's not up to the creators what sells well, it's up to the consumers
All the creator's try to (or are presuaded to or forced to try to) make works that sell.

Sex sells. Fanservice sells. Awkward, disrupting, misplaced fanservice.. ? No idea.

Anyway it's not all on the author. Blame anime fandom.
Sep 6, 2019 3:32 PM

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I was so immersed in the fight that I actually forgot about her lucky lecher thing. That really got a good laugh out of me... He even took off her skirt lol.

And now she's half naked... damn.

Girl, just get out of there xD.

Nice shots.

Eat stars, motherfucker!

Nice, now she's with the 8th. She's so cute!... God dammit, Shinra, you had to screw it up.

Oh boy, it's started.

Holy crap! Arthur just got isekaid.

Pretty cool episode.
Sep 6, 2019 4:13 PM

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Arthur pulled a Zoro yikes

Sep 6, 2019 4:23 PM

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okay comon that fanservice was just trash. i dont even mind that happening, but right then totally ruined the mood
Sep 6, 2019 4:29 PM

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Hatsuyuki said:
Rider9530 said:

Just so you know the author didn't want to do it when he started the manga but the fairy tail author said to him that it will help his manga a lot, so i guess you can blame the fairy tail author for the random fan service.


Or I can just blame him for listening to dumb advice. Why would you ever let someone dictate your own work ?


Because sometimes it can be good advice. The best example is Dragon Ball Z, Toriyama wanted to end Android Saga on Android 19 and 20 but his Editor told him that it's not enough, so he added Android 17 and 18, but still for his editor it wasn't enough so Toriyama created Cell and in my opinion Cell saga is the best part of DBZ.

and from mangaka perspective Mashima's advice was good because his manga is still thriving even after story become worse and worst with every next arc. the best example of his advice is comparison between Fairy Tail and Bleach.
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Sep 6, 2019 4:48 PM

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This episode just.....ugh, idk anymore.
Chunky animation scattered throughout. Randomass fanservice in what was supposed to be a more seriously toned moment. Anticlimactic defeat of the disposable.
At least the fight was rather amusing.

Sep 6, 2019 4:50 PM

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I don't know how but they managed to screw up what they had with last episode's ending. Of course the fight was not gonna end there, but the 'emotional' thing with Tamaki was totally ruined by the pointless fanservice. Really, slapstick fanservice during a fight? Who was the mastermind behind this?

The fight itself was nice, I liked the appearance of the guys from the 1st and the hitman squad, but that was it. Just one half competent fight episode tossed in the middle of this mess of a story.

And at the end, that thing with Arthur where he's supposedly missing in action and they barely mention it, as if it's no big deal. What's up with that? The slapstick is more important than the plot, apparently. I was expecting it to be some sort of joke, but it seems not.

I'm not even gonna go into plot holes this time cause I just don't care anymore. Seeing how the author doesn't treat his own story seriously, why should I? I had already decided to drop this show. Last episode redeemed it a little, but this one was the nail in the coffin. Can't say I'll miss it. My final score is 7. Enjoyable for the fights, if you can just turn your brain off.
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Sep 6, 2019 4:51 PM

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This episode was fine, action was great and for once It didn't feel like the story progressed too fast, that was my main problem with last ep. A mistery barely gets introduced and is immediatly solved.

Also there was absolutly no emotionnal attachment to Tamaki prior to her rescuing, usually it's the kind of scene that make me cheer, but when I tried to remember what we know about her so far, all that came to mind was her god awful fanservice moment, and it was even worse this ep. This is a great example of "How to kill the mood of your scene".

It just goes too fast, you need to give your character a bit of relatable relationship before putting them in crysis.

I'm really sensitive to hype moment with great animation, MHA is not among my favorite for no reason, but it needs proper built-up, and a real emotionnal stake.
Sep 6, 2019 5:21 PM

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what an idiotic episode

putting the fight between rekka and shinra aside, tamaki was so useless this episode that it literally pained me. she sits there doing nothing just watching the fight and crying, and then is used as fanservice for NO REASON whatsoever. i want to see the fight. i dont need this cringey fanservice shit in the middle of a serious fight. is tamaki being reduced to the damsel in distress/"useless weak female" character? so idiotic i lost brain cells watching this episode

i know obviously the fight was the main focus but honestly tamaki's uselessness was what stood out to me, more than the fight itself
 



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Sep 6, 2019 5:25 PM

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So basically the Templars or their equivalent are connected to the bad side. And Arthur is now on Tatooine to become a Jedi (I might be crazy but his 10 seconds scene really made me think about a Jedi like Obi-Wan Kenobi).

Anyway, the episode was not bad, the fight betwee, Rekka & Shinra was explosive and I was positively surprised to discover the 2 assassins who put him down.
Sep 6, 2019 5:44 PM

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Is Tamaki just clumsy or simply have bad luck? >_>; Either way, I am glad Rekka is eliminated, but seeing him constantly being beated by Shinra was very satisfying.

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Sep 6, 2019 5:45 PM

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shit fanservice is ruining the best fight scenes
Sep 6, 2019 5:52 PM

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is that shit legit with Hiro , listen to you're buddy that's written one of the trashy'er shounens it'd make it better and be taken more seriously...

it just made me feel stupid after last week with how serious this was and the out of place fanservice taking me out ended up doing ,look there's a time and a place for it in the middle of a fight was not it fam


shame because as of now tamaki is the Lucy of fire force where her only purpose so far has been the source of "accidental" gropings and boob falls aka ecchi levels of fanservice
was pumped when i saw her character but shes just been the "weak female support eye candy".

i really wanna like fire force and it's strongest suit is the animation/action and has a interesting premise and it's finally starting to get its feet off the ground but every week i have to convince myself into thinking i'm watching something good while the back of my head it's actually this shit is kinda wack but damn does it look nice.

praying it gets better while all that is said episode wasn't bad just couldn't been way stronger due to these silly events and why is Arthur a jedi
katsu044Sep 6, 2019 5:56 PM
Sep 6, 2019 6:21 PM

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Having to send a search party to find Arthur after he got lost is one off the funniest throwaway gags I've ever seen in anime.

The fanservice isn't going to go away guys. If you can't stand it you should probably just jump ship now and save yourself the time.
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Sep 6, 2019 6:23 PM

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Great episode, loved it.

The fight sequences are just fantastic, I absolutely love seeing all the flame animation. Can't stress that enough.
I don't know if the power scaling feels off or if I just misunderstood how strong Shinra actually. I for sure thought he'd need help with Rekka right of the bat but he was able to hold his own.

Rekka truly was a crazy guy till the very end.

The fan service definitely felt out of place in the middle of such a serious scene but I can't really complain. Those Tamaki shots, my god. Shinra you lucky man! XD

We got a little reveal of the Evangelist and the mysterious white clothed soldiers who I would assume are his underlings. The sniper girl's powers seem cool.

Tamaki in the 8th, yes! Give me more fan service of our lovable neko-girl. <3

Rekka might've been crazy but Arthur is the true insane one, just randomly getting lost. His smirk at the end when walking on some random wasteland cracked me up. xD
Sep 6, 2019 6:50 PM
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you dont have to keep reminding me that she has huge tits I can see them thank u
Sep 6, 2019 7:09 PM

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I love the fan service in this, gotta respect the few anime that still do it.

Sep 6, 2019 7:27 PM

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Way to go Shinra, great fighting there.

So part of the true enemy showed itself and what methods they will go to, silencing even their own allies.

The way Authur was dressed at the end their and because his sword lights up he really does look like a jedi.
Sep 6, 2019 7:44 PM
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meow ^.^

the harem is really starting
Sep 6, 2019 8:07 PM
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tamaki is now on team 8th (temporarily)...

and the revelation about the "evangelist" thing has been said in this episode... now lets see what will happen in the next episode...

and did Arthur really lost?
Sep 6, 2019 9:22 PM
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I knew Rekka would not be so easy to defeat, the damn bastard is one of Leonard Burns' three lieutenants and Shinra is hardly a rookie, but even so Shinra knew how to face the lunatic star eyes.

Tamaki is too cute, it hurts that Shinra always ended up in perverted moments with her, my favorite is when Shinra lands his face on Tamaki's breasts after receiving that hard punch from Rekka.

Rekka's loose mouth released a lot of information when he thought that he would kill Shinra and Tamaki, first he revealed who are the ones behind the infernal insects, the cult of the Evangelist and second the moron revealed that they are behind Shinra because he owns the Adola Burst.

Removing the little fanservice that was in this episode, the fight was epic, especially when Shinra began using the entire building to attack Rekka from different angles and give him a good beating and the best thing was that Karim arrived in time to stop Rekka .
Too bad they killed Rekka, I say it because the bastard could have given much more information, but we already know when you know too much your destiny is death, so RIP Rekka you deserved it anyway and your death was incredible and is a pity for what happened to Li, since without knowing almost anything, he ended up losing an arm saving his friend Karim, but at least they already know that the servants of the evangelist's cult are on the prowl and are powerful opponents.

Shinra achieved a new ally with Karim, I hope this collaboration give good results.
Blushing Tamaki is so cute, Shinra added another lady, first a lunatic princess and now a Neko fire girl, I guess the next one will be Iris.

After having read the manga, I can't complain or whine about Tamaki's fanservice, it's something that will stay until the anime ends, so we can just enjoy what we should enjoy, the fanservice is at a minimum in this anime, in my opinion.
Sep 6, 2019 9:31 PM

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Damn Rekka was a persistent villain until the end, too bad the evangelists killed him. I wanted Shinra to be the one that defeated him well. Those Evangelists do not play around, the 8th division will have some tough time defeating them.

I see Tamaki has joined the 8th, which was obvious since everyone Shinra saves ends up trying to get closer to him!
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Sep 6, 2019 10:25 PM

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Man, I don't know what to think of Arthur anymore. I really want to believe his "chuuni" attitude is just a facade but a major part of me says he's just a dumb boy who got Excalibur in a gacha or something.

And by the way, uh... I know I said I didn't really care about Tamaki being used solely for fanservice purpose but man... in the middle of a battle? while talking about kids being set on fire for religious reasons? seriously?
But well, leaving that aside, what bothered me the most was the fact that despite seeing how much damage Shinra, another fire user of her same rank, was dealing to a supposedly way stronger rival than him, she remained still in her role of "damsel in distress" from the previous episode. I mean, I can understand why Iris didn't interfere in the fight against Hibana, she has no powers after all, but here... I mean, during her introduction a few episodes ago, she looked quite capable but now, she was simply reduced to an useless character whose only contribution to the show is to pleasure the viewer. Truly pathetic, honestly.

Anyways, in the end it was another lame episode. Not even the animation, which was quite average this time, could make up for its terrible lack of seriousness in the writing aspect.
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Sep 6, 2019 10:35 PM
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I really don’t know why some people were annoyed by the fan service during the fight, I get it was awkward, but I think that awkwardness made it hilarious imo
Sep 6, 2019 10:40 PM

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So much whining every week...

Sep 6, 2019 11:14 PM
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wtf Arthur doing in middle of nowhere
Sep 6, 2019 11:33 PM

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When did Arthur become Anakin Skywalker? lmao
Sep 6, 2019 11:40 PM

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ok i think that pure flames Rekka was talking about is like how the stars flames are that they are not burning because of oxygen but rather hydrogen if i remember my science classes right

interesting that they want to make planet earth a star lol but a star that have fire mutants in them?

and nice they got this concept of overheating and we learn that the fire users are using their own oxygen to create fire huh

Sep 6, 2019 11:41 PM

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The fight was badass. I loved almost every moment of it except for everything involving cat girl. I'm disappointed that shes joined the 8th.

Wtf is Arthur doing? LOL
Sep 7, 2019 12:22 AM

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A fan service moment in the middle of a fight that's supposed to be dramatic? I legit wouldn't be surprised if they made fan service inside another fan service next.
The animation quality has also been on a decline for the last couple of episodes with people typically having no faces as long as it's not a close-up.
The story so far just seems to be Shinra building his harem
Sep 7, 2019 1:08 AM

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My God, the level of humiliation and pathos that Tamaki reached can only be compared to that of machiko-sensei, the worst thing is that they previously character Tamaki a strong character only so that later he has problems so that the protagonist rescues, well no It is a strange thing considering that this is Japan, but they would have better used the useless nun who only serves to be the useless character that everyone should rescue
Sep 7, 2019 1:09 AM

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Atleast this episode I know what's going on.

I kinda enjoyed the fight.

The fanservice kinda ruined the fight, but the fanservice to me, was also funny.

The after ending scene was really funny.

Tamaki is best girl.
Sep 7, 2019 1:54 AM

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Ok wow
This fight was so epic!
Shinra is soo strong holy hell

The enemies and the whole Evangelist thing raises a lot of questions and suspicions
Arthur gone missing too, I could imagine this being some kinda joke too tho since it's Arthur but... I feel like there's more to it. Because this anime doesn't disappoint on these parts really

How the Tamaki thing would turn out was pretty obvious. Not that I dislike it tho

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Sep 7, 2019 2:31 AM
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The fanservice was horribly placed but they did a pretty good job blending it back into the fight. Tamaki pushing behind Shinra, encouraging him to keep fighting at first from embarrassment then to sad desperation gave me the feels a little bit. Rekka just stood there for a total of like 30 seconds just watching all of that happen instead of attacking though lol
Sep 7, 2019 2:34 AM
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Found it funny that Arthur is on Mars or some shit. Overall though, good episode. Fire Force is improving a bit which is nice to see.
Sep 7, 2019 3:14 AM

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This might have been decently paced if it weren't for the fanservice...
Sep 7, 2019 3:20 AM

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Arthur, what are you playing at, lmao... you're in a desert, I'm sure there's no deserts in japan, unless the geography is different in this world of theirs. Also, can lucky lachey girl and Shinra get together 'cause him and Sister are such a boring match.
Sep 7, 2019 3:49 AM

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Tamaki is voiced by Yuuki Aoi, that's all I need.
Don't believe the hype.
Sep 7, 2019 4:13 AM
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-Stray said:
Finally a damn badass episode through and through! That fight was amazing! The fight animation in this series is really its main selling point. Shinra's strong af.
Feels like we almost got cloee to a bigger reveal, glad it didnt got revealed that fast.
That being said if I had something to complain about its the weird ass fanservice in the middle of that high tension fight, Im fine with fanservice, rather I love it but couldnt it have wait till after the fight lol.

That post credit scene! missed the fck out of Maki and Iris! WTF was Arthur doing? Looked like he was in his own chuuni imagination world again.

Overall solid ep at long last!


For me it's the opposite they ruined the fight.
They made it in way that it felt that shinra overpowered rekka with very little effort
in the manga it wasn't like that, those 2 were pretty much in the same ground and rekka dealt a good damage to shinra and he was still up in the anime they made rekka to look like he was a shinra's bitch without shinra even trying.

Also i am afraid they are planning turn shinra into a hero annoying liner because during this arc he doesn't mention any line involved around the word hero and i am afraid they are gonna overuse this line in the anime . They are gonna turn him into an annoying character that says in every episode a hero related word line

Disappointing episode and i am a manga reader as well and i was expecting to see this fight they had with rekka.

I am seriously thinking to drop the anime now i am at least 99% certain that the adaptation of the story is gonna be shit fuck you david productions
Sep 7, 2019 4:35 AM
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katsu044 said:
is that shit legit with Hiro , listen to you're buddy that's written one of the trashy'er shounens it'd make it better and be taken more seriously...

it just made me feel stupid after last week with how serious this was and the out of place fanservice taking me out ended up doing ,look there's a time and a place for it in the middle of a fight was not it fam


shame because as of now tamaki is the Lucy of fire force where her only purpose so far has been the source of "accidental" gropings and boob falls aka ecchi levels of fanservice
was pumped when i saw her character but shes just been the "weak female support eye candy".

i really wanna like fire force and it's strongest suit is the animation/action and has a interesting premise and it's finally starting to get its feet off the ground but every week i have to convince myself into thinking i'm watching something good while the back of my head it's actually this shit is kinda wack but damn does it look nice.

praying it gets better while all that is said episode wasn't bad just couldn't been way stronger due to these silly events and why is Arthur a jedi


Hiro mashima and ohkubo atsushi are working in the same magazine (kodasha)
I am not sure if they are friends but they probably know each other both were in one interview

If people want to blame someone stop blaming the author and go blame the storyboard directors those are responsible for what they will put and what they will not put in the anime version of the story.

For me this episode was not as good as the manga version they made rekka look like he was shinra's bitch in the manga this fight was way better and had more tension rekka was beating shinra and what saved shinra was karim coming and stopping rekka but in the anime they though it was a good idea to turn rekka into a low tier enemy what the fuck?

Also i think they are planning to turn shinra into an annoying idiot who always will have one line related to the word heroes this is not what was done in the manga.
from this arc shinra stopped saying lines that involve the word of (hero this and hero that)

Sep 7, 2019 4:42 AM

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i just gonna quote my post from neighbor discussion
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many cheesy and shallow writing.
the detail is bad and direcing / storyboard are a little bit messy.


also the arthur thing in the epilogue is a 'zoro meme' or serious thing? i cant even tell

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Sep 7, 2019 5:56 AM

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Just why, why they should insert this unnecessary fanservice. Other than that the fight scene was still awesome, Shinra's moves was really great and fun to watch. Well Rekka's reason for creating infernals was unexpected or should I say Evangelist's objective, never thought that they will create a second Sun using the Earth. Karim at the same time still has this amazing ice power and also powerful. I assume that the sniper who shot Rekka is Evangelist's subordonates, they want to silenced Rekka. Pretty much ther objective now is to find The Evangelist.

Sep 7, 2019 6:39 AM

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I thought Shinra's moves are best outdoors, never thought of using it that way
Sep 7, 2019 6:45 AM
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katsu044 said:
is that shit legit with Hiro , listen to you're buddy that's written one of the trashy'er shounens it'd make it better and be taken more seriously...

it just made me feel stupid after last week with how serious this was and the out of place fanservice taking me out ended up doing ,look there's a time and a place for it in the middle of a fight was not it fam


shame because as of now tamaki is the Lucy of fire force where her only purpose so far has been the source of "accidental" gropings and boob falls aka ecchi levels of fanservice
was pumped when i saw her character but shes just been the "weak female support eye candy".

i really wanna like fire force and it's strongest suit is the animation/action and has a interesting premise and it's finally starting to get its feet off the ground but every week i have to convince myself into thinking i'm watching something good while the back of my head it's actually this shit is kinda wack but damn does it look nice.

praying it gets better while all that is said episode wasn't bad just couldn't been way stronger due to these silly events and why is Arthur a jedi



You do know the dude that does this did soul eater too and that has fanservice. The Stuido just toned it down
Sep 7, 2019 6:52 AM
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Rider9530 said:
Hatsuyuki said:


Well at this point I've made peace with the idea that fan service is going to happen whenever she appears on the screen. Either way I am fine with fan service as long as it's not oddly placed within the episode, which is almost always the case for Fire Force.

Just so you know the author didn't want to do it when he started the manga but the fairy tail author said to him that it will help his manga a lot, so i guess you can blame the fairy tail author for the random fan service.


Prove it . The author that does the manga for this also did soul eater and that has fanservice .
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Mattinator95 said:
Rider9530 said:

Just so you know the author didn't want to do it when he started the manga but the fairy tail author said to him that it will help his manga a lot, so i guess you can blame the fairy tail author for the random fan service.


Prove it . The author that does the manga for this also did soul eater and that has fanservice .

I know he wrote soul eater and i also thought that it doesn't make sense but i read it on an article a long time ago and i didn't save the article so im not going to look for it.
I don't really care if the article was true or just a lie, i just said that this is what i read on it.
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anikevin said:
When did Arthur become Anakin Skywalker? lmao



he dislikes sand ????
Sep 7, 2019 7:35 AM
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sockerdricka said:
Hatsuyuki said:


Or I can just blame him for listening to dumb advice. Why would you ever let someone dictate your own work ?


Sure you're free to blame him, or whoever you want for that matter.
You're also free to blame the anime fanbase. It's not up to the creators what sells well, it's up to the consumers
All the creator's try to (or are presuaded to or forced to try to) make works that sell.

Sex sells. Fanservice sells. Awkward, disrupting, misplaced fanservice.. ? No idea.

Anyway it's not all on the author. Blame anime fandom.



blame the stuido and the staff as well they could easily have removed the fan service or toned it down by removing the fan-service mid battle , soul eater has fan service but the anime is toned down
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Shinra's fight in this episode was amazing and I love Tamaki :))))
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Sep 7, 2019 8:22 AM

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Tamaki > MAki >>>>>>>>>>>> Iris

I'm surprised that Iris has more favorites than other two girls. She looks less attractive than other girls, and her personality is so boring.
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