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| An epic show worthy of the praise and hype it receives. 10/10 |
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ruusakraj said: Parts of the show made me think Reinhard digested some type of slow poison. There was closeups of the tea he drinks and also another part where the narrator made a comment about him drinking only two spoonfuls of the soup instead of more. ruusakraj said: If it was slow poison, I sort of think the person who poisoned him is Emil. He was introduced in the same episode (episode 49) that Reinhard first got a fever in. I think in that episode it was a regular fever and Emil poisoned him later on. Slow poison seems to have the same type of symptoms and people probably wouldn't guess it was poison after the first time Reinhard got sick. It just seemed similar to a mystery show I watched. Emil has the best chance to put poison in his food/drinks. He might not be what everyone thinks he is. He did give a weird look to Yang in one of the episodes which made me think what that look was all about. He just seemed the most suspicious in this scenario. Searched Google for 'Reinhard poisoned' and found only the above posts in this thread. I seriously thought Yang was going to die when he met Reinhard for the first/only time. Not by Reinhard's own hand but by his attendant. He gave Yang this sinister look/smirk, and Yang refused to drink the tea as if he noticed something was amiss. The scene itself came to nothing but I assumed it would be used as foreshadowing for Reinhard's demise: the attendant being a Terraist with the goal of extending the war (by making it look as if Reinhard had Yang killed when meeting him for talks) and, later, killing Reinhard to create chaos. It just made a whole lot more sense than a contrived post-Yang SUDDENLY DEATH illness that allowed for Julian to prevail. It would've made for a brilliant scheme: using Reinhard's loneliness and need to fill the void Siegfried's death left to place someone close everyone would overlook, who could poison as a servant with ease. Not sure if the novels were different but I don't see the point of Emil's character, otherwise... ---- Anyway, 7/10 is my rating. +2 for Yang (I kept mixing up Y&W: MIRACLE WANG!) existing as a sole variable in a plot that relied on 1D incompetence for Reinhard to be 'brilliant' via basic flanking tactics. Perhaps ironically, only Yang was able to shine because the author forced him to fight against the idiots on his own side, his lack of ambition, his desire to protect democracy AND the actual enemy forces always outnumbering him. Only he can come away with any credit from the non-animation grid battles. He used historical knowledge and his reluctance to kill needlessly against all the odds, and never lost; never betraying his principles. It was as if he existed solely to push the series off its predetermined path. A lot annoyed me about the show. For starters, it seemed to go in war > civil war > war circles after ep26. At ep10, Iserlohn. At ep 30, at Iserlohn. At ep80... even the subplots were irksome, such as Julian being sent to Phezzan pointlessly (he escaped and captured ship, GENIUS), investigating the Earth cult pointlessly and generally being one of many characters there only as plot devices. AND FUCK HIS ONE-NOTE IDIOT GANG, INCLUDING POPLAN! I-DO-NOT-CARE-ABOUT-HOW-MANY-GIRLS-YOU-FUCKED! Or, repeated 30yo virgin jokes. Then there was the absurd plot shield axe vs. LASER GUNS daftness, where all Rosen Ritter (w/e) people had plot armour x10. ARRGGGHHH. The show seriously came across like a middle ages setting with added spaceships; not at all convincing in a futuristic sense with its ancient nobility culture and what have you. With Reinhard's plot line and rule stagnating (rather ironically) after ep26, I just kept watching for Yang. And even his love affair with that damned Death Star wore me down by the time he died in random, anti-climatic fashion (at least if he'd died in the ep50's Reinhard would've won ONE worthwhile battle / not been an invincible loser...) ...At least the Reuental / Norio Wakamoto arc towards end was something different. I LOVED HOW HE SAID "MEIN KAISER!" OMIGAWD! I felt manly tears welling up over the end of the admiral duo's romance. Mitty-whatever taking Reuental's kid home was an especially nice touch. I needed the bromance end arc to finish the series, after having spent eps50-80 expecting Yang to die in the next episode; having already been semi-spoiled. The ending itself, with no answers given politically beyond maybe turning into a democracy (WHAT POINT OF WAR) over time, didn't impress. Oberstein remaining the hated loner til his death was kinda sad. PS: Brockemsockem's review articulates everything I want to say about the series, minus my Yang affection. http://myanimelist.net/profile/Brockemsockem/reviews |
AironicallyHumanSep 19, 2014 5:27 PM
| I feel like the series went to the worse since Julian became a commander. Reuental's rebellion also seemed quite forced. The way they got into Reinhard's ship was a lazy conclusion from the author. The series could've taken a much better route after Yang's death. 8/10, was generous with the score |
| *cracks knuckles* well that was an interesting ride I feel like I just watched Star Wars. Except without jedis, aliens or any good or evil. I also feel a little bit like when I watched Death Note in the way that up to a certain point the story was incredible, then after a certain character's death (in this case Yang) it took a bit of a nose dive. Not to say that the fourth and final season was bad by any means but it wasn't quite as good as what came before it. Also the beginning of the series was a bit slow. The middle part of it was brilliant however. Overall I'd give it: Season 1 - 8/10 Season 2 - 10/10 Season 3 - 10/10 Season 4 - 8/10 Final Score - 9/10 I won't call it the "best animu evurrr" exactly but I respect it a lot for what it is and it stands out in a way I'm not sure any other anime really does. However unlike all other more western-like anime I've seen before, this one actually delivered as well as I had dared to hope. Really looking forward to the upcoming remake, with modern art and CG technology I think this series could become absolutely fantastic ^^ |
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| Just finished, at about 5 in the morning here...perfect show for my 300th. I cannot wait for the new adaptation! |
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| wow, there are so many 9s and 10s score here. for me it's just another 7s anime, so from me 7/10. I think my elitist level not enough to reach LotGH master race XDD |
IZUMI64 said: wow, there are so many 9s and 10s score here. for me it's just another 7s anime, so from me 7/10. I think my elitist level not enough to reach LotGH master race XDD Then how about ABSTAINING from a vote if you realize that you are not capable of grasping Logh's Unparralled Greatness as the True Elite Anime? There is nothing wrong with choosing to not vote, and we True Logh Fans fully support that choice if the newcomers don't have the mental wherewithal to acknowledge it's deserved 10 mark. Flaunting your corrupt low score is not going to win you any support here, especially since LOGH already has the highest percentage of troll "1" votes preventing it from reclaiming it's rightful spot at the Top Anime List. |
IZUMI64 said: wow, there are so many 9s and 10s score here. for me it's just another 7s anime, so from me 7/10. I think my elitist level not enough to reach LotGH master race XDD Not to question your decision (I give zero shits about what anyone scores anything) but do you really believe that series like Girls und Panzer, Yuru Yuri and K-On! are not only better than LotGH but 10/10 series? I just can't wrap my head around that. |
| I'm perfectly fine with someone giving LoGH a 7/10 (even though it deserves at least a 9) rather than calling it shit and giving it a 1/10 without even watching it/dropping it after 2 episodes. |
TrequartistaNov 19, 2014 7:44 PM
Kagami_Hiiragi said: Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money. |
SimmianPrime said: IZUMI64 said: wow, there are so many 9s and 10s score here. for me it's just another 7s anime, so from me 7/10. I think my elitist level not enough to reach LotGH master race XDD Not to question your decision (I give zero shits about what anyone scores anything) but do you really believe that series like Girls und Panzer, Yuru Yuri and K-On! are not only better than LotGH but 10/10 series? I just can't wrap my head around that. mostly my score are not based by the plot or the complexity of the story, but based on my enjoyment level. don't get me wrong, lotgh story really good but for me it just lack of "wow effect". there are so many parts when i really bored. in my opinion they should squeeze this from whooping 110 eps to more reasonable fewer eps by focusing on important moments or events. |
| Trimming down LoGH would be a terrible idea, if anything I think it's more reasonable to argue the last season may have needed more episodes. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
IZUMI64 said: mostly my score are not based by the plot or the complexity of the story, don't get me wrong, lotgh story really good but for me it just lack of "wow effect". This epitomizes the sentiment of (some) Low Level anime viewers, who can only be titillated and aroused from their mental stupor by flashy and nonsensical trash like Girls Und Panzer, K-On, and TTGL among others. I'll commend Izumi for atleast being honest and putting himself in the spotlight to represent the dregs of anime fandom. His posts have presented the strongest argument against us True Logh Fans exposing the ignorant masses to the Greatness of Logh. Many are even more impatient, have less of an anime repertoire under the belt (a prerequisite to fully understand how far above Logh is from the heaps of trash out there, as well as getting exposed to the Legendary Seiyuu cast who help Carry Logh to Unprecedented Heights), and are even more dim-witted, all of which culminate in them being a stain and a detriment to the Logh community and a blight to its Rating and Prestige. I will take personal responsibility for helping to push Izumi to watch Logh months ago. It's best to only bestow Logh upon those you are certain have the patience and the capability to appreciate long Masterpieces like Monster or HunterXHunter etc that build up and flesh out the characters and their universe for an immersive experience. They also should show appreciation for Anime Staples from the 80's and 90's like NGE, Mobile Suit Gundam, Dragon Ball, Berserk etc even if they aren't the most flashy or impressive animation wise (after all one of the most ignorant criticisms of Logh is its animation). Predominately Dub viewers are also a no go, since acknowledging and being familiar with the strength of the dozens of Legendary Seiyuu and their mastery of the characters is a great boon to ones enjoyment, while a disdain for anime in its proper language can be a deal breaker. There are many more considerations to who should or shouldn't be granted the privilege to experience Logh, but they are beyond the scope of this post and I'd rather not clog up the forums of the final episode of the True Elite dealing with the unworthy. That being said it's incumbent upon us True Logh Fans to atleast encourage those who have unjustly rated Logh, while simultaneously acknowledging their inability to fathom its depths and insurmountable strength, to ABSTAIN from giving it a rating. Lest they fret and blather in protest, follow up with the advice to give Logh another try years from now in the future when/IF they have matured and expanded their repertoire of anime staples and are ready to properly (re)watch Logh. If at that stage they still want to rate it less than a 10 (or perhaps a 9..) then so be it. This will effectively neuter the damaging votes from most of the unenlightened "viewers" since they are unlikely to revisit Logh and they atleast won't desecrate it with their rating. The few viewers that had potential to grasp Logh's greatness but weren't able to their 1st go around may be able to at a later date, since they would have already shown a surprising level of Persistence, Patience, and Maturity by giving it another try in the future when they are more mentally capable and stable. As such they are much more likely to see the initial folly of their ways and the inherent pitfalls of their youth (whether in terms of age or anime experience) and as such a more proper rating in accordance with Logh's Greatness will be forthcoming. I know some may consider my observations harsh and Elitist, but I am not addressing them. I won't bash any rogue Logh fan who disagrees with my input, nor will i try to convince them. They have already done their job by atleast properly rating Logh a 10 and putting it on their Favorite Anime Lists and even added Logh Characters to their Favorites. I am speaking to my Fellow True Logh Fans who realize it's Greatness and Value Defending its Integrity and Honor. It is imperative and incumbent on you to realize that many are a lost cause with no salvation, and as such should be skipped over and discouraged from venturing into Mazes that are Unnavigable to them. It may not be politically correct to share the Truth, but when it comes to Logh I will do my Job and not be a Trunihit. |
SlickDNov 19, 2014 11:42 PM
| The above is an example of the kind of crap that gives our fanbase a bad name. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| What the hell did I just read? |
Kagami_Hiiragi said: Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money. |
Zophrosyne said: What the hell did I just read? |
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SlickDragon said: IZUMI64 said: mostly my score are not based by the plot or the complexity of the story, don't get me wrong, lotgh story really good but for me it just lack of "wow effect". This epitomizes the sentiment of (some) Low Level anime viewers, who can only be titillated and aroused from their mental stupor by flashy and nonsensical trash like Girls Und Panzer, K-On, and TTGL among others. I'll commend Izumi for atleast being honest and putting himself in the spotlight to represent the dregs of anime fandom. His posts have presented the strongest argument against us True Logh Fans exposing the ignorant masses to the Greatness of Logh. Many are even more impatient, have less of an anime repertoire under the belt (a prerequisite to fully understand how far above Logh is from the heaps of trash out there, as well as getting exposed to the Legendary Seiyuu cast who help Carry Logh to Unprecedented Heights), and are even more dim-witted, all of which culminate in them being a stain and a detriment to the Logh community and a blight to its Rating and Prestige. I will take personal responsibility for helping to push Izumi to watch Logh months ago. It's best to only bestow Logh upon those you are certain have the patience and the capability to appreciate long Masterpieces like Monster or HunterXHunter etc that build up and flesh out the characters and their universe for an immersive experience. They also should show appreciation for Anime Staples from the 80's and 90's like NGE, Mobile Suit Gundam, Dragon Ball, Berserk etc even if they aren't the most flashy or impressive animation wise (after all one of the most ignorant criticisms of Logh is its animation). Predominately Dub viewers are also a no go, since acknowledging and being familiar with the strength of the dozens of Legendary Seiyuu and their mastery of the characters is a great boon to ones enjoyment, while a disdain for anime in its proper language can be a deal breaker. There are many more considerations to who should or shouldn't be granted the privilege to experience Logh, but they are beyond the scope of this post and I'd rather not clog up the forums of the final episode of the True Elite dealing with the unworthy. That being said it's incumbent upon us True Logh Fans to atleast encourage those who have unjustly rated Logh, while simultaneously acknowledging their inability to fathom its depths and insurmountable strength, to ABSTAIN from giving it a rating. Lest they fret and blather in protest, follow up with the advice to give Logh another try years from now in the future when/IF they have matured and expanded their repertoire of anime staples and are ready to properly (re)watch Logh. If at that stage they still want to rate it less than a 10 (or perhaps a 9..) then so be it. This will effectively neuter the damaging votes from most of the unenlightened "viewers" since they are unlikely to revisit Logh and they atleast won't desecrate it with their rating. The few viewers that had potential to grasp Logh's greatness but weren't able to their 1st go around may be able to at a later date, since they would have already shown a surprising level of Persistence, Patience, and Maturity by giving it another try in the future when they are more mentally capable and stable. As such they are much more likely to see the initial folly of their ways and the inherent pitfalls of their youth (whether in terms of age or anime experience) and as such a more proper rating in accordance with Logh's Greatness will be forthcoming. I know some may consider my observations harsh and Elitist, but I am not addressing them. I won't bash any rogue Logh fan who disagrees with my input, nor will i try to convince them. They have already done their job by atleast properly rating Logh a 10 and putting it on their Favorite Anime Lists and even added Logh Characters to their Favorites. I am speaking to my Fellow True Logh Fans who realize it's Greatness and Value Defending its Integrity and Honor. It is imperative and incumbent on you to realize that many are a lost cause with no salvation, and as such should be skipped over and discouraged from venturing into Mazes that are Unnavigable to them. It may not be politically correct to share the Truth, but when it comes to Logh I will do my Job and not be a Trunihit. You're not True Elite nor funny if you keep acting like an idiot. Please stop. I remember following your journey to LoGH elitism by reading some of your episode discussion posts. You used to be one of those generic DBZ fans, now you've turned into a generic LoGH fan. -__- |
cupcNov 20, 2014 8:12 AM
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| [quote=SlickDragon] IZUMI64 said: .... dude stop, seriously. Learn something from Confucius, he was at least amusing and fun to talk with. |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
insan3priest said: The above is an example of the kind of crap that gives our fanbase a bad name. Surely he's just trolling?.........right? |
insan3priest said: The above is an example of the kind of crap that gives our fanbase a bad name. It wasn't a copypasta. Kindof depressing. |
insan3priest said: The above is an example of the kind of crap that gives our fanbase a bad name. you sure hes not joking? sometimes i do this shit once in a while just to troll |
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| I thought he was joking at first, but every single one of his posts is written with silly, almost troll-level elitism. I don't know what to believe anymore. |
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M_A said: He is right, though. lol. Maybe, but I still think Confucius was a better trollitist. |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
SlickDragon said: This epitomizes the sentiment of (some) Low Level anime viewers, who can only be titillated and aroused from their mental stupor by flashy and nonsensical trash like Girls Und Panzer, K-On, and TTGL among others. Stopped reading here. |
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| Man, now that I think about perhaps Reinhard took Bucocks last words about friendship and democracy really sink in. With Bucocks first name being Alexander and Reinhards last words being about friendship it kind of seems like the case. |
| I wish Oberstein was given more personality or a backstory. He has his dog, but I think the dog only appeared once, and Oberstein is never shown interacting with it. I wanted so much to like this character, and it frustrates me that in the end there is not much too him as a person. I also wish that there was some sort of epilogue. This final episode ended in sort of an abrupt way, and I think this show deserved more than that. I could go on and on detailing the various gripes I have with this show, but in the end these complaints are overshadowed by how much I like LoGH as a whole. It just feels unique in its content and presentation (for anime), and despite the slowness I wasn't ever exactly bored because the plot was always moving forward. And Reinhard's hair is nice. |
| Reinhard death has got to be the most depressing death I've seen in anime so far. Really hard to see such a charismatic character die at such a young age from an incurable illness :( Overall it was a very enjoyable series, almost perfect if it weren't for a few things that bugged me here and there. Very sad not hearing the little music play at the end of the episode indicating the start of next episode's preview ;_; |
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quukii said: I wish Oberstein was given more personality or a backstory. He has his dog, but I think the dog only appeared once, and Oberstein is never shown interacting with it. I wanted so much to like this character, and it frustrates me that in the end there is not much too him as a person. I also wish that there was some sort of epilogue. This final episode ended in sort of an abrupt way, and I think this show deserved more than that. . I disagree on both counts. THe whole point of Oberstein's character was to show him as this cold and calculated, almost inhuman, Machiavellian personality. And then, right at the end, viola! he has a dog and he has asked someone to take care of it. That's what I call character exposition. Also, the whole of last season, particularly post Ruenthal eps, were one huge epilogue. That's how I saw it. |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| As good as I expected this to be. Don't think I've seen anything like this in quite a while. 9/10 for this series. |
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| For an anime noob myself, this is certainly my favourite anime I have seen. Everytime I see Reinhard, I am always making a correlation to Alexander the Great, his ideals, how he conquers, his politics, and, in the end, his death, resembling that of Alexander(somewhat). On the second page of this thread, a member mentioned that he was being poisoned slowly, but I wonder, wouldn't he become immune to poison? Oberstein's death, also showing a kind side of him, even tho being pretty cold on the business side of things, was great. I would've liked for him to stay alive, as he would've made the Lohengramm Dynasty a much better place. However, it isn't to say the show was without flaws, there were things I hated, for example, Yang being a "Psychic" on the battlefield and the strategies going always as he predicts. Great conclusion to a great story. I wonder if the remake will live to the greatness this anime has, or will it flop; I hope they catch the greatness this anime has. Transmission off. Off to complete watching some other animes I need to finish. :) |
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| Masterpiece. 10/10. |
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| I have an incredibly newfound respect for Oberstein. Though I had shaken my initial impression that he was plotting something, I did not realize how deeply devoted he was to his work, and to simply sacrifice himself for the continuation of the Lohengramm Dynasty and the protection of the Kaiser was extremely powerful to me, as soon as I saw him laying there with half his body blown off, it instantly hit me what he had done, and I had to pause and cry a little bit as I thought about what an incredible deed he had done. I'm very happy with the end of this series. I was especially glad when Reinhard suggested to the Kaiserin that constitutionalism may be put into place and that his son should not necessarily rule if he is not capable. Saying that may impact history tremendously, and I think it's the best result the republicans could have hoped for. I think the government will only continue to improve, and if it's ever necessary, I'm extremely glad that democracy will also live on. This series is a 10/10 for me. It's certainly not without its flaws (there are many) but it was an incredibly fascinating and entertaining ride, and I have a feeling I'm going to end up watching it again and again. |
| It goes without question that this anime is a masterpiece. |
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| Nice that De Villier got the worst of it. And of course, the saddest death of the series: Oberstein! Nice ending overall. What a great journey. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
| 10/10 without doubt, though the ending doesn't give me much impressions. Everything's back as it was. Will added as favourite depend on whether I dream about this anime again or not tonight. |
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| While I enjoyed the show much if I had to point out the one aspect that I didn't like was that the story doesn't give enough respect to it's great characters. By that I mean their deaths are often way too random. I don't know it was to show equality of everyone before death and to fight the rule "important character should have good death" but here it goes overboard. I will do the counting Kircheis - random death because the led an assassin into the "throne room" and just on that day he had to put his guy away. Following that I don't remember anyone from the main cast dying (and at least the old fleet admiral from Alliance Bucock got a good death) Still after many episodes without any bad death comes Yang Wenli - if anything this one death is something that I will never forgive this studio for. Sure, Yang was very bad in melee but why did they let those "imposter imperials" enter the ship in the first place. NWM, I don't want to write about this one. Then following him Reuenthal - in general all episodes that involved "his rebellion" was completely unreasonable to me. Like everyone knew that he didn't do it and yet, "!!!TO WAR!!!". Still I at least hoped for this to have somewhat "good ending" as in essence Reuenthal was loyal enough to is Kaiser to even become his enemy. Still rather than getting blow up in the ship they prolonged his death and yet again made it bad by "He died because he didn't let his doctors treat him". Well then, following his deaths soon came the epilogue of the story and with it one unreasonable death after another. (With the exception of yet again old Admiral as Merkatz good very honourable death that he deserved. It seems that only old generals were spared form this ridiculousness ) Schenkoop - this one wasn't that bad as those last moments very well executed him dying beastly on while sitting on the top of the stairs after killing hundreds of enemies. Still here comes the problem as what lead to that death. Some "surprise complete unreasonable" attack by some random guy. Sure one can get caught off guard but I can't really believe that Schenkoop who especially in those last scenes started doing one crazy thing after another, could get caught off guard by that plebeian. (Not to mention I want an explanation on how the "Rozzen Ritter" squad was killed off because I don't believe yet again that they could get killed by those low-level guards. Sure if they could get surrounded than maybe but they were in a narrow hallway. For all I guess those guys could stay there and fight like three hundred Spartans with Schenkoop being as good as Leonidas. The fact that they got killed somehow off screen is something that falls yet again in the category of "unreasonable, unfair treatment to characters while they die" Naturally it's not over though. There probably were few that I missed but I have three left. Rubinsky - I feel like this guy should have been killed earlier and him being alive after Phezzan fallen somewhat didn't have any purpose in it. Oberstein - speaking of random death. This one was probably the most random of all. I mean, boom! Oh, Oberstein died... !!!!WHAT!!!! While I did have big reaction like that in all those deaths here it was really too random. Especially when it was the last episode. Why did they do that? Was it to please people who didn't like him as a character? I personally liked this character very much and anytime someone was complaining about him I always though. What's your problem, this guys is A) Loyal B) DOES HIS JOB better than anyone Kaiser included, what else do you want from man in his position? Really the fact that he died in random explosion is, why couldn't they leave him alone! And naturally lastly there is Reinheart's death. Ahhhh... A world in which humans could travel the space for 801 years (if "space calendar" began going to space) and yet the most influential person who had the whole universe at hand dies from some random illness that no one never had before him. Well I could say that there were few deaths mentioned that were bigger "BULLSHIT" than this but yet again, !!!why like that!!! Oh well this one death I predicted the moment those fevers started because if not for random Reinheart's death, what other purpose could they have. What's the strangest and most unreasonable fact about this illness was however, was that the moment the doctors found out what the disease , the disease decided to kill Reinheart right away. Like earlier it was a fever from time to time but then as if waiting to be found out, the moment it happened boom, Reinheart dead. Oh, well after Yang died I was prepared for everything but really why did they gave those characters those deaths. At least in last case I very liked the analogy where Reinheart used all his lifespan in the short time of his conquest. Well that is as much as I can complain about this anime as everything else was !greatness! Sure I liked the "first part" better as it was a military struggle between two powers. The first part was simply filled with more of Reinheart greatness and Yang Wenli greatness. Then I would say that the middle part was filled with Yang Wenli greatness only as somehow ever since arriving at the top of Empire Reinheart didn't have many occasions to shine. Then there is last part that no longer had Yang Wenli greatness but it's still holds it level by other characters. In the last part I actually especially enjoy Kessler - rescuing Hilda and Annerose from that burning build. And in general Kessler is one of my favourite, going around with that "Shank's voice" +100 to likeness! But anyway, I still have all those prequels to watch so !YEY! Not to mention that the remake of LGH is coming as well. Still is there even a need for remake? I mean, can someone make this story even better than it is. From visual aspects, I don't think that there is anything to complain about in LGH. Even if someone points out that it's a production of 1988-1997 I still consider it to be good up to current standards and what's more those visuals absolutely fits this story. (The only thing that they can improve on is ship battles, but this show is more about tactics not actual fighting scenes. Also is Thor hammer animation bad? From audio standpoint. I hope that they won't take away the classic music as it was really important part for me. Then there will also be a need for new voice casters as some of original ones are already dead. It will be hard to get used to new ones. But anyway the more LGH the better. But anyway, in the end LGH is well deserved 10/10 because I can't really tell if this anime isn't actually the greatest anime ever. It's always hard to compare especially when they differ that much. In the first place, did I wouldn't even call this anime as it was so much different compared to every anime I watched before. Rather than calling it anime, I will call it the work of art. |
eso18Jan 28, 2015 2:41 PM
| Don't even know how to put it into words now that I'm complete this, all I have to say is Reuenthal was the man and I'm glad his son is hinted to be the type tor reach for the stars, and with a family much superior than Reuenthal had as a child, I imagine it could only go great for him. |
| Jaywalker. |
| So uhmm somebody was cutting onions next to me. My heart almost gave out when Reinhard closed his eyes and the doctor said "he just fell asleep". fuuuuuuuuu Good night sweet prince, may your hair flow freely forever in our hearts. Really amazing series, i'm kicking myself a bit that it took me so damn long to actually finish it. I'm pleased with this finale though Julian and Karin continue to severely underwhelm me. Julians rage induced moements were memorable- my god, tthe way he killed the De Villie! Then a few minutes later i'm back to "meh Julian..." It's probably just me working under the impression that he will never be able to fill Yang's shoes. I can never let that go. Hold on though... Poplan gives a little goodbye speech but we don't get to see Swagenborough one last time? Not even standing in the background? Nvm then. Fuck this shit. 1/10. Dropped and deleted from my list. |
eso18 said: snip I think the whole point of the deaths being 'random' in LoGH is, that that's how everyone dies in reality. Even the greatest men do not die like in a shounen series, in the midst of nakama crying and wishing him/her a goodbye. Yang died because he was unfortunately shot in the artery which is very often lethal. Kircheis died because of an unfortunate assassination. Reuenthal is a bit more of a question mark, but when taking into account his great pride and ambitions rivaling those of Reinhard, it makes more sense that he begun his rebellion. Remember what was said about him and Reinhard in one scene: Both of them are bright stars of the galaxy, but unfortunately for Reuenthal, Reinhard shines even brighter. Only one star can rule the galaxy, and so Reuenthal began his rebellion. Reuenthal's pride, whole reason for existing was to become a leader. His ideals conflicted with Reinhard's own, similar ideals. The rebellion was unavoidable, more like it was destined to happen. About Reinhard's death: It felt indeed quite forced, but again, remember what was said in a scene. "One who unifies a galaxy can not lead it." (I think that's about how it went.) This goes more to the side of destiny, but when looked at great conquerors throughout history, very often they seem to die when their campaign is over or well under the way. Alexander the Great and Genghis Khan come to mind first. To me it felt like Reinhard has taken some inspiration from such characters. He fulfilled his dream to conquer to galaxy - he wasn't needed anymore, so he died. The illness itself was just a tool to create such an ending, even if I agree that it could have been executed better. |
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| That was a pretty good ending. I liked how Oberstein went out. I also liked how Julian and his friends were fighting together too. It was all really cool. Reinhart's death was very sad. I like how the show ended with optimism for the future. |
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koreye said: M_A said: He is right, though. lol. Maybe, but I still think Confucius was a better trollitist. Wait what...? |
Confucius said: koreye said: lol. Maybe, but I still think Confucius was a better trollitist. Wait what...? *elitist sorry, typo. My bad. |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| Wow... I'm speechless. I was so ready to be disappointed with this ending and it exceeded my expectations. Magnificent. |
| So Reinhard wasn't poisoned after all. Huh. So he died of an incurable unknown illness. Classy. Or should I say The Young and the Restless-y? Julian says he'll "fight" against Empire's autocracy, Reinhard lets Hilda make the decision whether to bring parliamentary system or not. And what was the stuff about De Villier was talking about? That there were others that objected against Reinhard? How is this even an ending? Everything is incomplete. I was right to think that they'll pull Death Note 25 after Yang's death. It may not seem exactly like that but what happened is exactly this. Even tough writer didn't have the courage to blame Reinhard, he killed him because he found him guilty. But why? We don't know. There is no reason. None. Was Reinhard a bad person? No. Did Reinhard deserve to die? No. The only reason he died, I mean was killed by writer was that he was too great to exist. Writer couldn't simply allow such a great man to exist. I find this complex disturbing. Why must everyone die to shove your beliefs down people's throats? Why can't a man, a simple man stand against life's roughness? Why must you make everyone feel like such a man can't exist just because you, yourself don't have the courage to be that man? Even tough I prefer happy endings I don't hate other endings as long as they have a redeeming quality. With LotGH there was very few. It was a bad ending for the sake of a bad ending and nothing else. This is why this series will never inspire people, unlike other select series. |
| Open to chat about any storytelling related subject as long as it's clever and respectful. Myanimelist |
| I absolutely love watching space operas so I kinda knew already I would love this and I did even though after Yang's death the final season wasn't as good as the rest (and Yang was my favorite character) but still this will be one of my favorite anime I've ever had the pleasure to watch. |
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| Definitely do not think this series is as good as people make it out to be or as I was led to believe. Still pretty good, though. |
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