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Fadeout4 said: He could have. Just because it wasn't shown to us doesn't mean it didn't happen. We haven't seen EVERYTHING that's happened over the past 30 days of the journey. I know, I just can't picture JoJo doing that. Unless of course, he does it in a way that makes him looks really badass. |
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sjack said: I'm glad my decision to stop visiting MAL, judging from the replies in this thread, was justified. Users like sullynathan and Mikasa have convinced me that this site has got to be filled with some of the shittiest taste I've had the displeasure of seeing. Did you get angry because I disliked the first 3 episodes of this jojo season? Who cares about tastes? You fanboys amuse me. _sadist_ said: sullynathan said: Stardust Crusaders 2nd season has been a complete dissapointment. Iggy is an annoying shit. This episode is quite literally the worst jojo episode I've watched and the most boring episode of any show I've watched this year. Disappointment? 3 episodes and you've already lost your patience, c'mon man! A sense of humor Do you have it? Obviously i have a sense of humor if i watched this series and enjoyed most of it for 50 episodes so far. Jazzy_Maz said: Relax it's been 3 episodes 3 episodes of crap isn't really good |
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| Surprised that the majority liked this episode. I thought it was pretty bland, and predictable, like I was watching an American cartooon made for kids. Really pointless to the story, so yeah they are filler like villains. |
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tsudecimo said: Surprised that the majority liked this episode. I thought it was pretty bland, and predictable, like I was watching an American cartooon made for kids. Really pointless to the story, so yeah they are filler like villains. They actually aren't pointless to the story. I would explain this a bit more, but then I'd be spoiling a later episode. |
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tsudecimo said: Surprised that the majority liked this episode. I thought it was pretty bland, and predictable, like I was watching an American cartooon made for kids. Really pointless to the story, so yeah they are filler like villains. This episode was about "filler" as most others. Very few of the villains have a direct impact on arc 3's thin plot. As for your other comment, I think something's to be said for the catch all phrase "good execution". Yeah it's definitely reminiscent of silly Loony Toons fare, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. A refreshing change of pace with good music to compliment the humor. There's also stuff like bizarre facial expressions, Polnareff's unintentional ribbing, and the ridiculous comic book art that got me. Also dug the alternate outtro, it's like DP new how much fans were waiting for this and threw everything they had at it. Kinda makes me hopeful for other fan favorite moments |
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| This was downright bizarre and hilarious. |
| But... But NONE of the villains have been filler... They're all in the manga... Some of you guys really need to look up what "filler" means... |
sjack said: I mean, nearly every single villain so far has been "filler" so far. Maybe, but some of them possessed real threat, and weren't entirely comical. Fadeout4 said: But... But NONE of the villains have been filler... They're all in the manga... Some of you guys really need to look up what "filler" means... They mean they are not important, used to prolong and pad the story. They don't mean the non canon definition of filler. |
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tsudecimo said: Fadeout4 said: But... But NONE of the villains have been filler... They're all in the manga... Some of you guys really need to look up what "filler" means... They mean they are not important, used to prolong and pad the story. They don't mean the non canon definition of filler. It's really an unfortunate misconception that filler only means something is non-canonical. It seems to me though that Part 3 is the only Part that suffers from this issue. I won't sugarcoat it, because while I do love Jojo, Part 3 is my least favorite part given that there are times where it feels like there isn't any direction. In the grander scheme of things, though, a lot of these small arcs that seem pointless bring subtle pieces of character development. It seems like Araki was really dedicated to using all of the Tarot and Egyptian God Stands which in turn made Stardust Crusaders have arcs that seem like filler, because it seemed forced. I didn't find that Parts 4-6 suffered from this filler issue as much. Part 4 had a couple of arcs that seemed oddly placed, but the dynamic cast counteracted that well. |
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Jazzy_Maz said: I didn't find that Parts 4-6 suffered from this filler issue as much. Part 4 had a couple of arcs that seemed oddly placed, but the dynamic cast counteracted that well. Agreed. And even in part 4, some of these small filler arc, showed some interesting dynamics between the cast like |
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tsudecimo said: Jazzy_Maz said: I didn't find that Parts 4-6 suffered from this filler issue as much. Part 4 had a couple of arcs that seemed oddly placed, but the dynamic cast counteracted that well. Agreed. And even in part 4, some of these small filler arc, showed some interesting dynamics between the cast like Yeah. Those Parts had far more interesting casts. Not to take a way from what Stardust Crusaders has, but the subsequent Parts did pretty much everything better. |
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Jazzy_Maz said: It seems to me though that Part 3 is the only Part that suffers from this issue. Part 1 - They fight random enemies until Dio Part 2 - They fight random enemies until Kars Part 3 - They fight random enemies until DIO All with mini-arcs along the way, but 90% of all villains are motw in every part. If people don't like part 3 that's all good, but pretending that it's the only one that "suffers" from an "issue" is very silly. All of them have the same structure. Some are more entertaining than others for different reasons, but the reason has nothing to do with "filler villains" or whatever, because every part is the same formula. |
Kellhus said: Jazzy_Maz said: It seems to me though that Part 3 is the only Part that suffers from this issue. Part 1 - They fight random enemies until Dio Part 2 - They fight random enemies until Kars Part 3 - They fight random enemies until DIO All with mini-arcs along the way, but 90% of all villains are motw in every part. If people don't like part 3 that's all good, but pretending that it's the only one that "suffers" from an "issue" is very silly. All of them have the same structure. Some are more entertaining than others for different reasons, but the reason has nothing to do with "filler villains" or whatever, because every part is the same formula. I think you're understanding my point wrong. I recognize that this is how Jojo is set up from Part 1, and I love the way it is set up. I wouldn't be so invested in it if I didn't like it. I'm more of saying that Part 3's sub-villains at times, more noticeably than others, seem unrelated, and the story seems to lose its direction. I don't dislike or hate Part 3 in the least bit, I love do love it, it just happens to be the Part I have the most issues with (which I would say lightly, considering I gave Part 3 a 9/10). |
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Jazzy_Maz said: I'm more of saying that Part 3's sub-villains at times, more noticeably than others, seem unrelated, and the story seems to lose its direction. That's what I thought you were saying, and I don't think it's an accurate assessment at all. This whole topic is a pet peeve of mine, so I apologize if I seem to be going overboard. But tl;dr Jojo is not about the story and is just about cool characters fighting each other, it's senseless to pin dissatisfaction with a part on "the fights not being relevant". |
Kellhus said: tl;dr Jojo is not about the story and is just about cool characters fighting each other, it's senseless to pin dissatisfaction with a part on "the fights not being relevant". Well I'd just like to say, I'm not dissatisfied with Part 3 at all. If I pulled it out of context from the rest of Jojo, I'd still consider it a great piece of fiction and a sure favorite. In the context of other Jojo as a whole, Part 3 just seems the weakest. It doesn't resonate with me as much as the others. But I can still consider it great - it does everything the other Parts do, it's fun, unique, interesting, and well written. I like that there's a lot of focus put on the characters, and how they interact with different situations, on top of really interesting overarching plots and villains. I'm a very strong believer of purpose in writing, that a good writer does everything with some purpose in mind. And with Jojo, that's the case, I generally do see some sort of subtle piece of character development in all of these tiny arcs that add something, based on the way a character interacts with the situation. With Part 3, I just find it more difficult to find that compared to later installments. |
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| I don't mean to question your judgement on whether or not part 3 is good/bad. You could call it shit and I would be okay with that. Discussion regarding the comparison of strength/weakness of each part is fun, and naturally people will have favorites/least favorites. But what irks me is when people say it's bad specifically because it's "too motw" or something along those lines. It just makes no sense. If someone doesn't like the setting, characters, stands, Dio, etc, those are legitimate complaints. I can see reason behind what you say with character development based on situation being lacking in part 3 (although I disagree), but this has nothing to do with "unimportant filler villains" or whatnot. It's not like other parts have intricate plots and SC is hugely deficient anyway, 1-6 are all super basic (which I think is ultimately a good thing, as it allows the series to never get up its own ass and deliver extremely satisfying action left and right). |
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Kellhus said: I don't mean to question your judgement on whether or not part 3 is good/bad. You could call it shit and I would be okay with that. Discussion regarding the comparison of strength/weakness of each part is fun, and naturally people will have favorites/least favorites. But what irks me is when people say it's bad specifically because it's "too motw" or something along those lines. It just makes no sense. If someone doesn't like the setting, characters, stands, Dio, etc, those are legitimate complaints. I can see reason behind what you say with character development based on situation being lacking in part 3 (although I disagree), but this has nothing to do with "unimportant filler villains" or whatnot. It's not like other parts have intricate plots and SC is hugely deficient anyway, 1-6 are all super basic (which I think is ultimately a good thing, as it allows the series to never get up its own ass and deliver extremely satisfying action left and right). Oh I totally agree that it's annoying when people complain the series is "too motw." I really hate to say unimportant or filler, as I think those two words carry negative connotations. I think a lot of where I'm getting this feeling is the set up of the anime for this episode specifically, it seems a bit out of place between Geb and Anubis. In the manga, it seemed to flow a lot better. The anime has (for me) managed to isolate some of the arcs/fights and make them seem unimportant, something I've yet to get from the manga. But I really do hate to say unimportant, because while I get this feel occasionally, I don't think Araki ever does something without a purpose in mind. |
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Jazzy_Maz said: Oh I totally agree that it's annoying when people complain the series is "too motw." I really hate to say unimportant or filler, as I think those two words carry negative connotations. I think a lot of where I'm getting this feeling is the set up of the anime for this episode specifically, it seems a bit out of place between Geb and Anubis. In the manga, it seemed to flow a lot better. The anime has (for me) managed to isolate some of the arcs/fights and make them seem unimportant, something I've yet to get from the manga. But I really do hate to say unimportant, because while I get this feel occasionally, I don't think Araki ever does something without a purpose in mind. I like Stardust Crusaders, but it is a bit MotW though. I mean, of the Stand fights that have happened so far, the ones that have contributed to the overall narrative are: * Star Platinum vs. Magician's Red (Introduction of Stands) * SP vs. Hierophant Green (Introduction of Kakyoin) * HG vs. Tower of Grey (Explains why they can't just take a vehicle to Egypt.) * MR vs. Silver Chariot (Introduction of Polnareff) * SC vs. Hanged Man (Polnareff sub-plot) * SP vs. Justice (Polnareff sub-plot) * HG/SC vs. Lovers (Only for Enya's death) * MR vs. Judgment (Avdol's Return) * SP vs. Geb (Iggy Introduction) |
| Pretty damn entertaining episode hahaha, the ending song is still stuck in my head. "OINGO BOINGO BROTHAAA!" |
 (っ◔◡◔)っ 𝓘 𝔀𝓲𝓼𝓱 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓪𝓵𝓵 𝓱𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪 𝔀𝓸𝓷𝓭𝓮𝓻𝓯𝓾𝓵 𝓭𝓪𝔂 ♥ |
Hobgoblin2099 said: I like Stardust Crusaders, but it is a bit MotW though. No one is denying that Jojo is set up like that, but it's being pointed out that it's rather bothersome when people use that as a point of complaint for the series. |
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| That ending caught me by surprise but I loved it. Did not care for Oingo and Boingo back when i read the manga but seeing them animated + the ED changed my opinion a bit. |
Dracozombie92 said: That ending caught me by surprise but I loved it. Did not care for Oingo and Boingo back when i read the manga but seeing them animated + the ED changed my opinion a bit. |
| Holy fucking shit, that was freaking hilarious, based Polnareff. That dude is a walking comedy. That thumb scene, I was laughing my ass off, so much that I even felt bad for the faker xD I hope we see them again :P |
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| That episode was hilarious. I am still laughing! 11/10 |
| This reminded me of the hijinks found in the old Road Runner cartoons. Too funny and they were so oblivious to it ass lol |
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| Damn! Polnareff and Joseph are STUPID! Sent with Mal Updater |
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| so funny that the cough I've had for the past week got worse while I was half wheezing half laughing through this episode |
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| Lol this was a pretty funny episode actually and lol that ED :p |
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| The ending they did for this episode was amazing. Damn they're really bad Stand users at least with Hol Horse they realized they were getting attacked. |
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| Probably the funniest episode in the whole Jojo series! ahahahahaha. They didn't even know they were attacked. I'm glad the two brothers didn't die though they're just too funny. |
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| That was a pretty good episode. Watching the Oingo Boingo Brothers' predictions backfire was funny. |
tsudecimo said: Surprised that the majority liked this episode. I thought it was pretty bland, and predictable, like I was watching an American cartooon made for kids. Really pointless to the story, so yeah they are filler like villains. I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt this episode was too "cartoonish." The brother not dying from the explosion also felt silly. Also, found it pretty annoying how they made Joseph and Polnareff seem like complete idiots for the sake of comedy. Was hoping they knew he was a fake all along and they were just screwing with him but unfortunately that wasn't the case. |
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| Looking like season 2 is going to be a lot better than season 1. Loved these past 3 episodes. |
| Brace yourself. Soon as LotGH 2017 comes out. The anime community is going to become so cancerous you will need to take cover and hide. |
| lol this is the funniest jojo ep. |
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| Oingo Boingo Brothaaaz! |
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| That was funny af, lol at cigarette part XD. That little brother has a weird laugh XD 5/5 |
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| That was funny as hell. |
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| Poor guys, this episode was funny as hell, I was surprised to see that they didn't notice that Jotaro wasn't Jotaro. |
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| I wondered if the cola the guy at the other table had was warm because it had been replaced with tea, since they drank actual tea, it's unknown. Making hair indistinguishable from hat, the best Jotaro disguise. |
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| That was a surprisingly comedic episode~ Boingo's laugh was w-weird. JoJo got a hat extension! xD It's a miracle that the team was dense enough to not notice that. And without the right attire, Oingo's Stand is practically useless in most situations. Jotaro actually did the cigarette thing with 5 sticks, seeing that they never found out about the brothers in the first place :o I guess that the explosion was just dangerous enough to undo the transformation forcibly. The brothers got beaten up. They tried to kill JoJo and friends, so no cookies for the two. Very catchy ED though, even with the creepy visuals <3 |
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| I couldn't stop laughing loudly! It's like I'm watching Gintama! |
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| Loved this episode, and it is without a doubt the funniest jojo episode so far! I like that we finally took a break from serious fighting and had a good time to chill out. |
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